Luminous
God Save The Queen
- Location
- Victoria, BC, Canada
Are you voting for two plans at once, or an option and a plan?
Terminus Quest: A CKII Mass Effect Quest
ExNihilo
SPACE!
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Approval voting-that counts as a vote for both, so both are closer to winning.
Kinruush
Who?
- Location
- USA
Those are both plan names. This quest uses approval-style voting, which means you can vote for every plan you like to prevent vote splitting.
Edit: Ninja'd
- Location
- Yes
Noted.
That complicates some of my background planning for Turn 21, but not hugely.
I think. Let me check my notes....
True.
But that was more of an extremis situation as far as I can tell, after the dummkopf managed to, against military advice, get half the fleet slaughtered in what was, IIRC, either a stunt to enhance his standing before impending elections or a tantrum.
It didn't strike me as a fundamental part of her current characterization.
*le shrug*
That's usually the rationale for obeying laws in the first place.
At least for precedent-setting public personalities.
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- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
*blink* You have notes?
I'm flattered.
Mira is a very cold-blooded woman when she needs to be. To date, you all have been very good at finding that proverbial, "other way."
If convinced that the first way is needful, Mira does not, however, hesitate.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Sure, but a lot of public personalities are, on some level, old fogies who value precedent at least a bit, and who are set enough in their way
Mira is still young- she's about 150, which is something like her late twenties or early thirties in 'human years.' Still in the maiden stage and likely to be relatively open to disrupting the systems around her if she thinks the long-term consequences will pay off.
Not that huge, tbh, just a text document with a budget template and a couple timesaving notes and reminders I update occasionally.
Quest isn't complicated enough to require spreadsheets and design documents.
Thankfully
Mercenary for hire in the Terminus. Successful mercenary for hire, with all that entails about a person's psych.
I thought that looking for somewhere to settle down meant she'd worked that much out of her system, at a minimum.
Apparently not.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
*shudders* Peace, no. That's what I want to avoid!Not that huge, tbh, just a text document with a budget template and a couple timesaving notes and reminders I update occasionally.
Quest isn't complicated enough to require spreadsheets and design documents.
Thankfully
Oh, she did. Or so she thought. In reality, the settling down in a peaceful, prosperous place just meant she no longer needed to make those kinds of decisions.
Then the Rachni happened. She went into politics, by way of the military. She started needing it again.
So our POV character is, and stall remain, a black cardboard cut-out.
Disappointing. Convenient from a votes and actions but nonetheless disappointing.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Sneer if you want, but Mira has a pretty vivid and distinctive personality in my eyes. I strongly suspect that if we had a protagonist with a different personality, we'd get different options- things Mira can't do, or wouldn't think of doing.
I also strongly suspect that if we consistently voted for a protagonist to do certain things over and over, Poptart eventually would show it impacting their personality... because character evolution and development are things they do.
But as explicitly pointed out, Poptart's had very bad experiences with quest voters having meta-arguments of the form "if we __________, it'll start changing our protagonist's mindset! You fools! We must/can't _______!" And that kind of debate can be deeply toxic.
So it'd be unreasonable to expect Poptart to not react against that at least a little, by affirming that the protagonist's personality has an independent existence, is not just putty in our hands, and isn't going to be randomly turned inside out by any single decision we make.
CrimsonKnight
Lurking in a thread near you
[X] Plan Guns and Butter
[X] Plan Send the Marines AND the Ships
[X] Plan Send the Marines AND the Ships
Okay, here's an alternative I don't think I'm seeing, partially to see what it would do to the budget:
(Priorities: make Release Assets workable, try to get past that hit as soon as possible, and keep as much of our savings as we can. Also, apparently, get a worthy successor to Durrahe, because he deserves one.)
[x] Plan Fix the D*** Economy
-[x] Slash Naval Production: Cost: halve naval production. Chance of Success: 100% (+11, total 111% - autosucceed, chance for crits?)
-[x] Army Reform: Cost: -35,000 yearly income. Chance of Success: 60% (+11 +24, total 95%)
-[x] Regularize Special Addresses: Cost: -20,000 yearly income. Chance of Success: 70% (+10, total 80%)
-[x] Cut Them Off At the Knees: Cost: 25,000 credits. Chance of Success: 55% (+10 +16, total 81%)
-[x] Unemployment Benefits: Cost: -15,000 yearly income for duration of crisis. Chance of Success: 75%. (+12, total 87%)
-[x] Release Assets: Chance of Success: Rolled every year until the cumulative result reaches [???], with natural 1's inflicting negative progress. Cost: Multiply yearly income by a factor of 0.1 immediately. Income will slowly recover over time. (+12 +18, total [roll] + 30)
-[x] Intrigue: Spies, Analyze Thyself: Cost: -25,000 yearly income. Chance of Success: 80%. (+12, total 92%)
-[x] Line of Succession: Cost:5,000 10,000 credits. Chance of Success: 80%. (+44, total 124% - autosucceed, high crit chance)
--[x] DD
-[x] Personal Attention (Army Reform)
-[x] Personal Attention (Cut Them Off At the Knees)
-[x] Personal Attention (Release Assets)
Income hits: 246,000 -95,000, x0.1 = 15,100 yearly income
Credit Reserves: 265,000 credits - 35,000.
Next year's starting budget: 245,100 credits
Analysis: It will suck on turn 22, or if we get attacked next turn, but it leaves a good chance of getting our economy up and running, and we'll get the income from Fun Coupons back after that.
Hmm. On another topic, heavily fortifying relays seems to be a decent complement to raiding doctrine - making sure that our fleets have somewhere safe to return to. Once we have this crisis more or less under control, we might want to look at improved design/increased production of our defense platforms.
Also, providing a list of plans posted since the vote-open threadmark, for comparison:
(Priorities: make Release Assets workable, try to get past that hit as soon as possible, and keep as much of our savings as we can. Also, apparently, get a worthy successor to Durrahe, because he deserves one.)
[x] Plan Fix the D*** Economy
-[x] Slash Naval Production: Cost: halve naval production. Chance of Success: 100% (+11, total 111% - autosucceed, chance for crits?)
-[x] Army Reform: Cost: -35,000 yearly income. Chance of Success: 60% (+11 +24, total 95%)
-[x] Regularize Special Addresses: Cost: -20,000 yearly income. Chance of Success: 70% (+10, total 80%)
-[x] Cut Them Off At the Knees: Cost: 25,000 credits. Chance of Success: 55% (+10 +16, total 81%)
-[x] Unemployment Benefits: Cost: -15,000 yearly income for duration of crisis. Chance of Success: 75%. (+12, total 87%)
-[x] Release Assets: Chance of Success: Rolled every year until the cumulative result reaches [???], with natural 1's inflicting negative progress. Cost: Multiply yearly income by a factor of 0.1 immediately. Income will slowly recover over time. (+12 +18, total [roll] + 30)
-[x] Intrigue: Spies, Analyze Thyself: Cost: -25,000 yearly income. Chance of Success: 80%. (+12, total 92%)
-[x] Line of Succession: Cost:
--[x] DD
-[x] Personal Attention (Army Reform)
-[x] Personal Attention (Cut Them Off At the Knees)
-[x] Personal Attention (Release Assets)
Income hits: 246,000 -95,000, x0.1 = 15,100 yearly income
Credit Reserves: 265,000 credits - 35,000.
Next year's starting budget: 245,100 credits
Analysis: It will suck on turn 22, or if we get attacked next turn, but it leaves a good chance of getting our economy up and running, and we'll get the income from Fun Coupons back after that.
Hmm. On another topic, heavily fortifying relays seems to be a decent complement to raiding doctrine - making sure that our fleets have somewhere safe to return to. Once we have this crisis more or less under control, we might want to look at improved design/increased production of our defense platforms.
Also, providing a list of plans posted since the vote-open threadmark, for comparison:
- Location
- Canada
Inserted tally
- Location
- Tarn-Vedra
[X]Plan Guns And Butter
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Then people should not have tried to brat me into a decision. I do not try to incentivize that approach.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
[X] Plan Send In The Marines
- Location
- USA
[X]Plan Guns And Butter
... rather slow day for discussions.
... rather slow day for discussions.
- Location
- the Moon
- Pronouns
- He/Him
By and large most arguments have already been played out. Personally, I don't think Guns and Butter does enough to assist the Civilian Sector, but then again putting the army to work like that is pretty substantial too.
I'd just rather Release Assets now while we have the most time to work with, considering that it's far more assistance than Public Works, and then get the army trained up so we can secure attican beta so our raiding fleet can actually raid in the near future, but I seem to be a minority.
I'd just rather Release Assets now while we have the most time to work with, considering that it's far more assistance than Public Works, and then get the army trained up so we can secure attican beta so our raiding fleet can actually raid in the near future, but I seem to be a minority.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
By the way, would you mind providing examples of what first-order consequences (which players are normally okay with?) versus second-order would be.