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You Are: A sector admiral of a strained imperium.
- Thread starter Packrat
- Start date
- Original Sci-Fi
[X] Accept Her Proposal. Agree with her proposal, you are being healthily bribed and a single share from somebody as influential and rich as her could be construed as her being genuinely grateful for your assistance and skill in battle, a noble gesture from a mentee to a mentor and attempt to influence you rather than outright patronage from her house.
[X] Infrastructure & Surrender. You will limit bombardment of Chuang Mu to infrastructure and take the monitor's surrender. You will seek to provoke the war another way.
I don't like the write-in by Snowfire for this at this point and I'm afraid that military utility doesn't leave us with many good options for what to do next even if the Viscountess wasn't here putting a spanner in the works.
After further thought, I don't like the options to be greedy either. All of them really just make it harder to achieve our actual aims, I think. So instead I am voting to accept her proposal if the Viscountess does what we will likely need to do anyway.
Hopefully, she will find it an acceptable compromise.
fasquardon
[X] Infrastructure & Surrender. You will limit bombardment of Chuang Mu to infrastructure and take the monitor's surrender. You will seek to provoke the war another way.
I don't like the write-in by Snowfire for this at this point and I'm afraid that military utility doesn't leave us with many good options for what to do next even if the Viscountess wasn't here putting a spanner in the works.
After further thought, I don't like the options to be greedy either. All of them really just make it harder to achieve our actual aims, I think. So instead I am voting to accept her proposal if the Viscountess does what we will likely need to do anyway.
Hopefully, she will find it an acceptable compromise.
fasquardon
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- Location
- il bel paese dove il sì sona
- Pronouns
- He
[X] Accept Her Proposal. Agree with her proposal, you are being healthily bribed and a single share from somebody as influential and rich as her could be construed as her being genuinely grateful for your assistance and skill in battle, a noble gesture from a mentee to a mentor and attempt to influence you rather than outright patronage from her house.
[X] Infrastructure & Surrender. You will limit bombardment of Chuang Mu to infrastructure and take the monitor's surrender. You will seek to provoke the war another way.
[X] Infrastructure & Surrender. You will limit bombardment of Chuang Mu to infrastructure and take the monitor's surrender. You will seek to provoke the war another way.
CrackedCosmonaut
I am not angry.
- Location
- East
Missing something here.
She is using encryption because she knows someone more powerful than her or her family will disapprove.
You know who that person is.
And chances are, the viscountess is recording this conversation on her end.
Which means it's a setup for treason if things don't go well for her.
The best course of action is to do the right thing.
Absolutely refuse.
And, you cannot simply play Undercover co-conspirator.
No, what you have to do is tell her no, and Report her to the Imperial intelligence, who most likely works for the empress.
They can set up a sting operation and take her down on their time.
Your job as a fleet Admiral is to corral this Rogue Commander, even going as far as a formal reprimand.
That, and reporting her to Imperial intelligence is your duty.
There will always be a bigger fish. You can't bend over for them all.
This monster will be happy to kill billions. And provoking a war could mean trillions.
Take the hit. Take it on the chin.
Your royal enemies will be content to backstab, and it is guaranteed that another backstabber will be perfectly content to take her down after she shamed herself.
You might get some Flack coming your way.
But, unless the empress is stupid, she knows that a royal like the viscountess is very likely to try the crap you've reprimanded her for in the first place.
The empress would not take kindly on a random Royal starting a war. That's her job.
And if she wanted to start a war, she would have told you.
So what you do know, is that the Empress, the biggest fish, does not want a war.
And you know the viscountess is using crypto because she is afraid of someone more powerful than her.
So here is my vote.
[ X ] Break the game. Fight on your Battlefield not hers.
First thing to do is disrupt this nonsense.
Using this type of crypto is not in your interest. You tried to convince her. But ultimately, she controls this conversation, because she controls who witnesses it.
Act like an admiral and do not let this debutante run your life and ruin everybody's life.
Make her do what she is supposed to.
Make her communicate through regular military channels.
This forces her to act like a captain is supposed to, because she knows you can record it.
You will have it on open record, a recording of her disobeying if she does not comply.
She will have no choice but to shut up and maneuver where you want her to.
You can complete the entire operation this way.
When the battleships show up. You can always see if you can get her killed through clever maneuvering. A certain type of backstabbing, which you are much more capable of than Court politics.
And, she will have to obey your orders or you have on record her acting with cowardice.
She is using encryption because she knows someone more powerful than her or her family will disapprove.
You know who that person is.
And chances are, the viscountess is recording this conversation on her end.
Which means it's a setup for treason if things don't go well for her.
The best course of action is to do the right thing.
Absolutely refuse.
And, you cannot simply play Undercover co-conspirator.
No, what you have to do is tell her no, and Report her to the Imperial intelligence, who most likely works for the empress.
They can set up a sting operation and take her down on their time.
Your job as a fleet Admiral is to corral this Rogue Commander, even going as far as a formal reprimand.
That, and reporting her to Imperial intelligence is your duty.
There will always be a bigger fish. You can't bend over for them all.
This monster will be happy to kill billions. And provoking a war could mean trillions.
Take the hit. Take it on the chin.
Your royal enemies will be content to backstab, and it is guaranteed that another backstabber will be perfectly content to take her down after she shamed herself.
You might get some Flack coming your way.
But, unless the empress is stupid, she knows that a royal like the viscountess is very likely to try the crap you've reprimanded her for in the first place.
The empress would not take kindly on a random Royal starting a war. That's her job.
And if she wanted to start a war, she would have told you.
So what you do know, is that the Empress, the biggest fish, does not want a war.
And you know the viscountess is using crypto because she is afraid of someone more powerful than her.
So here is my vote.
[ X ] Break the game. Fight on your Battlefield not hers.
First thing to do is disrupt this nonsense.
Using this type of crypto is not in your interest. You tried to convince her. But ultimately, she controls this conversation, because she controls who witnesses it.
Act like an admiral and do not let this debutante run your life and ruin everybody's life.
Make her do what she is supposed to.
Make her communicate through regular military channels.
This forces her to act like a captain is supposed to, because she knows you can record it.
You will have it on open record, a recording of her disobeying if she does not comply.
She will have no choice but to shut up and maneuver where you want her to.
You can complete the entire operation this way.
When the battleships show up. You can always see if you can get her killed through clever maneuvering. A certain type of backstabbing, which you are much more capable of than Court politics.
And, she will have to obey your orders or you have on record her acting with cowardice.
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Closing votes.
It looks like the majority is for trying to arrest the Viscountess. The Imperial Loyalist approach.
Which might well work out pretty decently given you have been mostly going along with the Governor General and have his nephew on board your ship with Loyalty 15. I will try to get an update out tomorrow.
It looks like the majority is for trying to arrest the Viscountess. The Imperial Loyalist approach.
Which might well work out pretty decently given you have been mostly going along with the Governor General and have his nephew on board your ship with Loyalty 15. I will try to get an update out tomorrow.
- Location
- The United States
- Location
- NZ
I didn't realize that wow nice catch.
I reckon taking him on-board was one of our best decisions because our ridiculous stats make him a useful commander fairly quickly. He's already pretty decent considering. Just need his tactics and strategy to go up a point or two and he's good for cruisers without embarrassing himself.
- Location
- Canada
ah dang it, missed the closing post
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- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
11 strategy is legit; with one more point of Tactics he'd be a typical Captain.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
So it applies instantly? Kinda weird but I guess I won't complain too much.
Update 31 - Challenged
[X] Arrest Her. She is attempting conspiracy to treason, broadcast to all ships that she is a traitor then board the Fafnir and take her captive.
Even combined, this option had more votes than the various accept offers put together.
Your expression turns grim, you hesitate for a moment, then speak, your tone grim, volume pitched so that you are clearly audible across the bridge. "Captain Dame Juley Wisanch. Record for the log that Captain Viscountess Athryn Mithy Arslan has attempted to recruit me into a treasonous conspiracy against the throne. As the ranking Imperial Navy officer on scene I thus revoke her command authority and place her under arrest. Also accept the surrender of the Yuzhao."
With this said you open a channel to the Fafnir, directed to all officers. "Commander Amueth Enkis. I am ordering you to relieve Captain Arslan and place her in the brig under accusation of high treason, you are to assume command of the Fafnir." Then, directed to every captain. "The monitor Yuzhao has surrendered to the Sword of Democracy and all Imperial ships are to cease fire against orbital assets, continue suppression of Yuang Mu's ground based weaponry as per the original attack p-"
You are cut off by a very, very angry sounding Captain Viscountess Athryn Mithy Arslan. "You have NO authority over me or my ships, peasant, or any grounds to accuse me of anything!"
Political Capital gain:
1 Monitor Captured - 28
1 Corvette Captured - 6
1 Corvette Destroyed - 4
2 Heavy Orbital Platforms Captured – 15
+53 Political Capital, 75 new total. +3 Loyalty for all noble officers, +3 effective Diplomacy
All officers aboard the Sword of Democracy pass Loyalty checks
All officers aboard the Endeavour pass Loyalty checks.
XO of the Huitzilopochtli, Commander Kathra Ared Scolly, fails Loyalty check
XO of the Perun, Lord Commander Andos Lezal Rownett, fails Loyalty check.
Diplomacy Check:
5 + 2 + 1 + Effective Diplomacy 10 = 18, Minor Failure.
You do not receive any acknowledgement from Commander Amueth about your order and the Fafnir swings her nose to face your cruiser, the Falkor flanking her as the Smaug lags behind. The Endeavour positions herself off your starboard whilst the two injured strike cruisers fall behind. The crews of both the smaller ships seem to be distinctly unhappy and there are arguements on the bridges, both executive officers reportedly voicing their very serious concerns about you. The fire from the surface continues, but is largely irrelevant to your squadron in high orbit now that there is nothing to support in space. The surrendered Chuang Mu ships broadcast messages of confusion.
"Viscountess Athryn Mithy Arslan. You are ordered to step down as captain of the Fafnir and rescind command to your executive officer. You have conspired to break the Treaty of Ilam and force the Empire into war, you have attempted to suborn a flag officer of the Imperial Fleet and acted in a manner unbecoming of an officer in refusing the surrender of an honourable foe."
You are somehow not surprised at her response. Her voice is venomous.
"Reinhard Strauss." She omits your rank. "I challenge you to a duel, you honourless curr."
[] Duel Her. Probably not very wise, her record states she is pretty dangerous with a blade. If you win then you can probably take her into custody without any issues and have retroactively justified your accusations, losing however would be very bad even if she does not kill you.
[] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.
[] Arrest Her. She has no right to challenge a senior officer to a duel during active combat, it is arguably illegal. Hard dock the Sword of Democracy with her cruiser and arrest her. You have a faster ship and a vastly larger marine complement, they would be suicidal to resist. This could get messy if her other ships intervene but things are still overwhelmingly in your favour.
I have updated the front page with the current Readiness of all ships, note that both of your strike cruisers are pretty mangled, though the Falkor is not particularly healthy either. Also the strike cruisers might well suffer mutinies if you try to make them fight other Imperial ships.
Even combined, this option had more votes than the various accept offers put together.
Your expression turns grim, you hesitate for a moment, then speak, your tone grim, volume pitched so that you are clearly audible across the bridge. "Captain Dame Juley Wisanch. Record for the log that Captain Viscountess Athryn Mithy Arslan has attempted to recruit me into a treasonous conspiracy against the throne. As the ranking Imperial Navy officer on scene I thus revoke her command authority and place her under arrest. Also accept the surrender of the Yuzhao."
With this said you open a channel to the Fafnir, directed to all officers. "Commander Amueth Enkis. I am ordering you to relieve Captain Arslan and place her in the brig under accusation of high treason, you are to assume command of the Fafnir." Then, directed to every captain. "The monitor Yuzhao has surrendered to the Sword of Democracy and all Imperial ships are to cease fire against orbital assets, continue suppression of Yuang Mu's ground based weaponry as per the original attack p-"
You are cut off by a very, very angry sounding Captain Viscountess Athryn Mithy Arslan. "You have NO authority over me or my ships, peasant, or any grounds to accuse me of anything!"
Political Capital gain:
1 Monitor Captured - 28
1 Corvette Captured - 6
1 Corvette Destroyed - 4
2 Heavy Orbital Platforms Captured – 15
+53 Political Capital, 75 new total. +3 Loyalty for all noble officers, +3 effective Diplomacy
All officers aboard the Sword of Democracy pass Loyalty checks
All officers aboard the Endeavour pass Loyalty checks.
XO of the Huitzilopochtli, Commander Kathra Ared Scolly, fails Loyalty check
XO of the Perun, Lord Commander Andos Lezal Rownett, fails Loyalty check.
Diplomacy Check:
5 + 2 + 1 + Effective Diplomacy 10 = 18, Minor Failure.
You do not receive any acknowledgement from Commander Amueth about your order and the Fafnir swings her nose to face your cruiser, the Falkor flanking her as the Smaug lags behind. The Endeavour positions herself off your starboard whilst the two injured strike cruisers fall behind. The crews of both the smaller ships seem to be distinctly unhappy and there are arguements on the bridges, both executive officers reportedly voicing their very serious concerns about you. The fire from the surface continues, but is largely irrelevant to your squadron in high orbit now that there is nothing to support in space. The surrendered Chuang Mu ships broadcast messages of confusion.
"Viscountess Athryn Mithy Arslan. You are ordered to step down as captain of the Fafnir and rescind command to your executive officer. You have conspired to break the Treaty of Ilam and force the Empire into war, you have attempted to suborn a flag officer of the Imperial Fleet and acted in a manner unbecoming of an officer in refusing the surrender of an honourable foe."
You are somehow not surprised at her response. Her voice is venomous.
"Reinhard Strauss." She omits your rank. "I challenge you to a duel, you honourless curr."
[] Duel Her. Probably not very wise, her record states she is pretty dangerous with a blade. If you win then you can probably take her into custody without any issues and have retroactively justified your accusations, losing however would be very bad even if she does not kill you.
[] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.
[] Arrest Her. She has no right to challenge a senior officer to a duel during active combat, it is arguably illegal. Hard dock the Sword of Democracy with her cruiser and arrest her. You have a faster ship and a vastly larger marine complement, they would be suicidal to resist. This could get messy if her other ships intervene but things are still overwhelmingly in your favour.
I have updated the front page with the current Readiness of all ships, note that both of your strike cruisers are pretty mangled, though the Falkor is not particularly healthy either. Also the strike cruisers might well suffer mutinies if you try to make them fight other Imperial ships.
- Location
- va
[X] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.
- Location
- Anchorage, Alaska
[X] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.
I am done with this childish bitch. Didn't get what she wanted and now she is throwing a damn fit.
I am done with this childish bitch. Didn't get what she wanted and now she is throwing a damn fit.
- Location
- Somewhere in the stacks
- Pronouns
- She/Her
In for a penny, in for a pound...
[X] Arrest Her. She has no right to challenge a senior officer to a duel during active combat, it is arguably illegal. Hard dock the Sword of Democracy with her cruiser and arrest her. You have a faster ship and a vastly larger marine complement, they would be suicidal to resist. This could get messy if her other ships intervene but things are still overwhelmingly in your favour.
[X] Arrest Her. She has no right to challenge a senior officer to a duel during active combat, it is arguably illegal. Hard dock the Sword of Democracy with her cruiser and arrest her. You have a faster ship and a vastly larger marine complement, they would be suicidal to resist. This could get messy if her other ships intervene but things are still overwhelmingly in your favour.
- Location
- U.S.
[X] Arrest Her. She has no right to challenge a senior officer to a duel during active combat, it is arguably illegal. Hard dock the Sword of Democracy with her cruiser and arrest her. You have a faster ship and a vastly larger marine complement, they would be suicidal to resist. This could get messy if her other ships intervene but things are still overwhelmingly in your favour.
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
- Location
- Romania
[X] Arrest Her. She has no right to challenge a senior officer to a duel during active combat, it is arguably illegal. Hard dock the Sword of Democracy with her cruiser and arrest her. You have a faster ship and a vastly larger marine complement, they would be suicidal to resist. This could get messy if her other ships intervene but things are still overwhelmingly in your favour.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
[X] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.
Politics says we have to take the risk.
Politics says we have to take the risk.
- Location
- Germany
[X] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.
Forgothrax
Not Going Gently
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Send Ranca
Scolly, you worthless cunt, you're going dooooowwwwnnn.
Scolly, you worthless cunt, you're going dooooowwwwnnn.
- Location
- Florida
[X] Arrest Her. She has no right to challenge a senior officer to a duel during active combat, it is arguably illegal. Hard dock the Sword of Democracy with her cruiser and arrest her. You have a faster ship and a vastly larger marine complement, they would be suicidal to resist. This could get messy if her other ships intervene but things are still overwhelmingly in your favour.
- Location
- Reno
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[x] Duel Her. Probably not very wise, her record states she is pretty dangerous with a blade. If you win then you can probably take her into custody without any issues and have retroactively justified your accusations, losing however would be very bad even if she does not kill you.