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Well shit, exactly what i expected would happen with the arrest option. Why would anyone out of her fleet even consider going against her? She, after all pays them out of her own pocket.

But enough disappointment, uhm, further attempts at regularly arresting her WILL go wrong. Her ships combined against ours may very well end in a massive bloodbath (and i get the feeling that those other cruisers WILL help her) which we win hands down but still...very, very, bad.

The safest option and least costly one in terms of our own men and our political power and our own live is obvious:

Unleash the Kra-

[X] Send Ranca
 
[X] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.
 
[X] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.
 
@Snowfire here's my thinking about just arresting her. If she had gone through with accepting it, we would be in trouble straight afterwards because we really don't have the evidence.

Now she's said she'd fight a duel over it, people are going to think maybe there's some truth to this. Especially once we present our 'evidence' which really just comes down to our word over hers. The fact she would try to fight over it when we have little to go on is going to stack in our favour
 
[X] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.
 
kaeim said:
@Snowfire here's my thinking about just arresting her. If she had gone through with accepting it, we would be in trouble straight afterwards because we really don't have the evidence.

Now she's said she'd fight a duel over it, people are going to think maybe there's some truth to this. Especially once we present our 'evidence' which really just comes down to our word over hers. The fact she would try to fight over it when we have little to go on is going to stack in our favour
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Your logic isn't wrong, it lines up generally with mine. But bringing her in after losing a duel on the matter will make things go a lot smoother. I'm prioritising that.
Adhoc vote count started by Snowfire on Sep 13, 2018 at 5:21 PM, finished with 3388 posts and 35 votes.
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The surrendered Chuang Mu ships broadcast messages of confusion.
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Monitor Captain: What the hell is going on out there!?
Monitor XO: I think the Imperials are having a very heavily armed argument on whether to kill us. That or someone decided a planetary assault was the best time for a mutiny.
Monitor Captain: ...Well I suppose we'll just have to hope they all kill each other.
 
[X] Arrest Her. She has no right to challenge a senior officer to a duel during active combat, it is arguably illegal. Hard dock the Sword of Democracy with her cruiser and arrest her. You have a faster ship and a vastly larger marine complement, they would be suicidal to resist. This could get messy if her other ships intervene but things are still overwhelmingly in your favour.
 
[X] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.
 
[X] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.

Since she is coming to us then why not. We really should have a talk with Ranca beforehand tthough. Beg her not to kill the uppity bitch as that would make things too difficult for our future. I say go all in with her as our partner.
 
I'm split between arrest and Ranca.

Both sounds nice, so it's a question of how much risks to take. Argh.

Have fun Ranca.

[X] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.
 
kaeim said:
@Snowfire here's my thinking about just arresting her. If she had gone through with accepting it, we would be in trouble straight afterwards because we really don't have the evidence.

Now she's said she'd fight a duel over it, people are going to think maybe there's some truth to this. Especially once we present our 'evidence' which really just comes down to our word over hers. The fact she would try to fight over it when we have little to go on is going to stack in our favour
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I don't think that's how their culture would view her challenging him to a duel.
 
[X] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.
 
[X] Send Ranca. Ranca already wanted to duel the Viscountess, you can argue that she has precedence there and have her duel in your stead. She will probably win but if she loses? Again, that would make your accusations against the Viscountess be generally viewed in society as false and anything she does in retaliation 'putting you in your place'. In comparison to personally duelling this would mute the advantages of winning as well as being a lot more likely to succeed.
 
There's also the issue of if we try to arrest her and her other cruisers get involved... sure, we will probably win, but the boarding might get gnarly. Especially since we have disloyal XOs on our strike cruisers who might take actions and who's crews might mutiny rather than fight other imps.
 
George said:
I don't think that's how their culture would view her challenging him to a duel.
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And why not? She's a noble challenging a lesser to a duel. He is ultimately a commoner by birth, simply buying a title won't give him the respect he needs, nor would military prowess. Otherwise we wouldn't exist in such a stratified society that is literally descended from a few families.

Sending Ranca to duel is quite a risk, especially if we lose which is a distinct possibility. If she loses, we lose a hell of a lot.

If I was in her shoes, I would have simply accepted delayed and destroyed any potential evidence that might exist while my officers and crew hold off because she knows that if she dies, our PC is going to be in a world of hurt because he spilt the blood of a noble.

However, her challenging us to a duel implies there's more to the story. Yes, it isn't a straight up KO where us winning the duel changes everyone's mind, everyone applauds and we get a medal for saving the day, but it would get some nobles, hopefully those houses aligned with her rivals, to be like 'we should keep a eye on this'
 
@Rat King To comment on that, you have a lot of your marines on the strike cruisers as well, the Endeavour only has Marines 2.

Wison aboard the Perun could probably take either the Smaug or the Falkor in a straight boarding action if her XO was loyal, Lord Commander Rownett is not at all loyal but he is injured and so she might well be safe there.

Maner with the Huitzilopochtli though? The ship is damaged, the crew not great and she is injured, whilst Scolly has 15 Subterfuge. It is a fair bet that Scolly can seize control of the ship if she really wants to.
 
@Packrat what would the general perception be of those people who matter regarding our commoner background and any actions we'd take against her?

Is society as stratified and rigid as I'm imagining it to be or am I barking up the wrong tree in that any harm she takes physical or imagined, is going to get us in deep trouble with the nobility
 
kaeim said:
Sending Ranca to duel is quite a risk, especially if we lose which is a distinct possibility.
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Ehhhhh

Prowess 13 vs Prowess 17 might not be a sure thing for Ranca, but it's a definite advantage. Ranca's Prowess score advantage translates to the average result on a d6, so it's effectively 3d6 vs 2d6 in her favour.

I am ok with those odds.

kaeim said:
Is society as stratified and rigid as I'm imagining it to be or am I barking up the wrong tree in that any harm she takes physical or imagined, is going to get us in deep trouble with the nobility
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Not if it's Ranca who does the beating :p
 
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