Xander [Quest], Thread Fifteen: "Stranger Than You Know," 2.0
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Elder King: F. You have a way of listening to your juniors that encourages them to trust and listen to you. For all of six seconds, before something shinier catches their attention.
Endurance: D. You can keep going in spite of fatigue, pain, and injury. You gain moderate resistance to weariness and general physical harm. It's still not quite as good as an extra Heart Container, but on the upside, you're able to keep up with that ball of energy you call a little sister.
Endurance: D. You can keep going in spite of fatigue, pain, and injury. You gain moderate resistance to weariness and general physical harm. It's still not quite as good as an extra Heart Container, but on the upside, you're able to keep up with that ball of energy you call a little sister.
You know, we do have the ability to see beyond illusions into what is actually there.Cytokinesis said:
And I don't think the Boar would appreciate us having our mind deceived... neither would Din, come to think of it - that's eerily close t owards having our free will removed, which she does not appreciate in her chosen at all.
Just saying, Glory shouldn't have nearly as easy a time of it as she did in canon.
Well, no.GamingGeek said:
Gods can't use the Triforce.
(Plus, frankly, Glory doesn't deserve to be our end boss.
There's plenty of other enemies, like Wolf, Ram and Hart who should get that place instead)
Yeah, you know, somehow I doubt that the lady who got forcefully kicked out, locked down and humiliated is meant to resemble Din at all.GamingGeek said:
Especially since Din seems to be multi-dimensional already, having been part of a creation act that covers multiple worlds.
Every time I read the Endurance description I get a little sad we went for the Heart of Flame. It's good, no doubt, but given everything else we can do it feels like a shiny compared to what an extra Heart Container would really do. Hopefully we'll be able to test that theory sometime though, because I'd like to see Alex with at least one row of hearts.
As to the vote, I say waiting till after dinner is a good bet. I'm wondering what we'd say though. Mentioning that she invited other people from the tournament too is a possibility, making it seem less like a specific thing towards us and more an actual party. We should probably mention that Lu-Sensei was invited as a chaperone. I'm not sure if or when we should talk about her probably not having permission for it yet, though that might make her seem more like a typical child. Thoughts people?
As to the vote, I say waiting till after dinner is a good bet. I'm wondering what we'd say though. Mentioning that she invited other people from the tournament too is a possibility, making it seem less like a specific thing towards us and more an actual party. We should probably mention that Lu-Sensei was invited as a chaperone. I'm not sure if or when we should talk about her probably not having permission for it yet, though that might make her seem more like a typical child. Thoughts people?
Um what. It's zelda canon that a God can't use it. Cause if they could Hylia would have wished Demise dead. Also Lyrula's triforce stands for different things then power, wisdom, and courage.GamingGeek said:
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Subtley done there.aja318 said:
As for convincing our parents....Well, there's always the old trick of the pre-commitment fallacy: get someone to agree to something in advance, and then explain all the details later. It wouldn't be that hard to get our parents to agree to letting us attend *a* birthday party. The real trick to doing it is doing so without making them feel that we've tricked them, and also making the issue of Kahlua's species/parentage seem sufficiently mild that they don't feel emotionally obliged to go back on their word. Thoughts?
noahgab1133
Fluffy?
yeah glory is high end boss material but not final boss like desco 
also alex is chosen of din and while he might respect and try to make amends to the other two i fully support boosting din favor as high as we can.
[X] Make it a topic of conversation over dinner.
[X] You have an idea... (Write-in)
-[X] Broach the subject by what they would consider a good gift for an 8 year old girl.
maybe add something like if they would like to meet kahlua and her family?
also alex is chosen of din and while he might respect and try to make amends to the other two i fully support boosting din favor as high as we can.
[X] Make it a topic of conversation over dinner.
[X] You have an idea... (Write-in)
-[X] Broach the subject by what they would consider a good gift for an 8 year old girl.
maybe add something like if they would like to meet kahlua and her family?
The horror.walkir said:
So has anyone see the latest HSDK chapter? Cause it is a shocker.
Just because she's trying to ape at something greater than her (and because she's honestly too stupid to think things through) doesn't mean that she's any sort of reflection of Din.GamingGeek said:
She might be about power, but that doesn't mean she's in any way, shape or form related to Din.
Because of this.So yeah, she's not getting the Triforce (unless you think she can overpower what the Golden Goddesses have set up when she can't even get back home), calm down a little.
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Can someone explain the ball of energy thing to me please?
There is a popular theory that Zelda is in fact the key. The mechanics of this can be explained in a couple different ways* but the combination of Alex just so happening to have a little sister who shares his Gerudo traits is suspicious.Demonic Spoon said:
On top of that there are a ton of little hints that could be interpreted as supporting that view. For instance the "Little ball of energy you call a sister." sounds like something your generic older sibling would call their younger sibling however when you remember that the key was originally a little ball of energy it sounds a lot like another hint.
*Anything from Zelda's transformation into human form been retroactively applied to this quest simply showing the adjusted version of Alex's memory to include Zelda to avoid the OOC whiplash of Alex suddenly having a little sister he loves and wants to protect appear out of nowhere.
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what person in their right mind would not like a friend that can turn into a sword?dracklor said:And now I want to see Alex summon Desco, she and Zelda can be best friends...
Alright, so thinking about the actual vote, what do people think of something like this? The major point here is to start out highlighting that it's not just us being invited, but rather a few more of our friends from the tournament so that our parents don't think we're being singled out or something when we get to talking about Kahlua.
Keep in mind, this is very rough so I'd appreciate critique. I was thinking about adding something about it being in Japan but that they would be dealing with any travel arrangements, but I can't seem to make it sound right. I'm also thinking about how we would handle saying she hadn't asked her parents yet, but I'm not sure if mentioning that is a good idea in the first place. On the other hand, it makes her look more like a kid to be doing that, so it might be worth mentioning.
This could really use some touching up. Or maybe we should just vote for winging it, because that is what this basically amounts to right now unless someone has a plan.
[] Wait until dinner is over.
[] You have an idea...
- [] Start out by mentioning that you and several of your new friends were invited to a birthday party.
Keep in mind, this is very rough so I'd appreciate critique. I was thinking about adding something about it being in Japan but that they would be dealing with any travel arrangements, but I can't seem to make it sound right. I'm also thinking about how we would handle saying she hadn't asked her parents yet, but I'm not sure if mentioning that is a good idea in the first place. On the other hand, it makes her look more like a kid to be doing that, so it might be worth mentioning.
This could really use some touching up. Or maybe we should just vote for winging it, because that is what this basically amounts to right now unless someone has a plan.
[] Wait until dinner is over.
[] You have an idea...
- [] Start out by mentioning that you and several of your new friends were invited to a birthday party.
noahgab1133
Fluffy?
are we sure kahlua invited other people? I don't think she mentioned it in her letters.
First I think it would be better to wait until evening unless we want to say that Zelda was invited too, our parents are going to be busy with bathing and putting a toddler to bed shortly. Interruptions aren't going to help here and we don't want them distracted.Cytokinesis said:
I also thing we want to start with it being a political sort of invite. It's still personal in that it's from Kahlua herself but she's jumped the gun on asking us before asking her parents permission.
We should also mention that her parents are wary of Sunnydale because of the really bad rep it has Moonlite World wide from the local Nightlife. It's a big stigma in the Moonlit World so there's an even chance they'll block the invite considering we're planning on writing back to say she needs to ask them first. We also need to add that while it might be moot if they do ratify the invite that it's a big deal to turn down due to they're social and political position.
I know you don't like actual word votes but if we want to get our intent across we're may need at least a few 'quotes'
Perhaps this might help some thoughts
Pros to going:-
- Could make useful contacts, connections and even potentially allies.
- Shed or mitigate some of the stigma of where we live.
- Likely to learn a lot more about the Moonlit world and the opinions and biases of those within it.
- Don't anger Kahlua
- and if the invite is 'ratified' don't through their consideration in their face. (This could be better phrased)
- Last chance in a while to see some of our friends.
- Danger.
- Worrying Lu-Sensei.
- Could destroy our reputation with a bad showing.
A very good point, consider me changed to 'later this evening'.Madfish said:
I'm curious why you think this. In my opinion that is the wrong tact to take because it isn't as humanizing as simply describing it as a birthday party.
If need be we can mention the political part of it, but starting out with it doesn't sound great to me.
Again, here, I don't see why talking about the politics would be helpful in convincing our parents that they should let us go. They wouldn't care about this stuff. Reputation is a big deal, to us, and we may know how much it will matter in the end, but they don't. To their point of view it's not a big deal if we don't get involved with the movers and shakers of the supernatural world. Hell, that's probably their preference given the danger involved in that kind of escapade.
Us as questers have a very different perspective than Alex's parents do, and the political considerations that matter a lot to us are just going to make it sound more and more of a bad idea to our parents because it's going to be repeatedly pointing out that their eight year old son is getting involved in heavy matters well before he has any right to be dealing with such things.
I'm not so opposed to throwing a few quotes up to try to get an idea across, but I just don't like it when they're much longer than a sentence or so, because it gives no time for reaction and it gets way more restricting the more words you put into it.
I don't think we really need to mention most of these, and should really portray the ones we should mention non-politically if possible. Though noting that this is the last chance to see some of our friends in a while is a big one, so that should definitely get mentioned.
lancelot
Completely worth it
Does Kahlua's family prescribe to the old world mentality of Guest and Host most often seen used in the Dresden Files book series?Judge Mental said:
Another words if they invite us into their home their honor bound to be responsible for our life and safety, and a guest getting hurt would be the same as saying their too weak to protect a single person.
Not much discussion going on now. Is everyone out doing stuff, or are people just stumped?
Anyway, how does this as a start sound? I'm a little iffy on it, but I'd hope for some more conversation.
[] You have an idea...
- [] Start out by mentioning that you and several of your new friends were invited to a birthday party. The hosts are rich enough to be handling the travel plans, so it's a really good opportunity to see them.
Anyway, how does this as a start sound? I'm a little iffy on it, but I'd hope for some more conversation.
[] You have an idea...
- [] Start out by mentioning that you and several of your new friends were invited to a birthday party. The hosts are rich enough to be handling the travel plans, so it's a really good opportunity to see them.
Maybe say that a friend sent a message asking if we could, and that we're going to write back advising her to tell her parents, but that we'd like to know what they think first?
That way, they get into mind "eager friend who jumped ahead", which should help put them further at ease since that's a very kid-like thing to do, give them another way to humanize these people.
That way, they get into mind "eager friend who jumped ahead", which should help put them further at ease since that's a very kid-like thing to do, give them another way to humanize these people.
Oh, yeah, our parents didn't like Cordy's parents.Alratan said:
Krain said:
They don't like Cordy's parents cause they aren't pleasant people to be around people not cause they are rich. They like Cordy just fine.Alratan said:
Yeah, it's seeming like not-so-good an idea right now after a bit of reflection.
I do think mentioning that several other of our friends were invited sometime during the conversation is good too though, I'm just not sure when or how to start.
Now this does seem like a good idea, though I'm not quite sure how to word it appropriately. It's up the alley of how I think we should present it though.Krain said:
I do think mentioning that several other of our friends were invited sometime during the conversation is good too though, I'm just not sure when or how to start.