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He's an amythest, likey we will be forced to separate his soul from his body eventually... but we should not rush it again because he's specialized against us we should try to defuse, but honestly its unlikely to work so we should also try to buy time.

Either way I can't dismiss him as the sort of dude you just send skeletons with crossbows against.
Having more living fighters would be good, what would be even better is if we could persuade the dwarves to help given how much anti magic stuff they have.
 
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Basically, I would be pro @Chimeraguard 's plan if they were to swap Dhar defenses for meeting with the dwarf thane again.
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Doable.

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-[ ] Talk to Dante across the river, 1 die
-[ ] Attempt to talk to Thane Josef Okrisson, 1 die
-[ ] Court Independent villages, 1 die
-[ ] Train Necromancers, 1 die
-[ ] Scout surroundings, 1 die
-[ ] Outfit a Crossbow Skeleton Legion, 1 die
-[ ] Outfit Black Knights, 1 die

Though I'm not sure on our Necromancers <-> Undead Armies ratio right now. If we're good on Necromancers even after raising more Legions, then maybe we could go for the throat against our Amethyst Wizard neighbor? Though I'd also like to have our Heroes outfitted with more Panoply first.
 
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If he sees a terrorgeist and they miss he can likely send it plummeting to earth by breaking it's magical bindings, only way you get a more specialized undead force than an Amythest Wizard and a Morrite Priest present would be if they brought the Knights Of Morr with them, which if we kill them maybe that will be who we meet next.

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Yeah the only type of wizard that can match an amethyst wizard in the realm of undead killing is a light wizard.

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Maybe we'd be better off later having other border princes come after them. The issue is that being a small republic of using the undead, and the justified stigma against vampires and necromancers could present the Archmage with an ample target for our enemies to collectively decide to smash.
 
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If he sees a terrorgeist and they miss he can likely send it plummeting to earth by breaking it's magical bindings, only way you get a more specialized undead force than an Amythest Wizard and a Morrite Priest present would be if they brought the Knights Of Morr with them, which if we kill them maybe that will be who we meet next.

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There is one of him and an army of us. Dorwn him in skeletons and rip him apart with vampire lords.
 
There may as well be two of him with the Morrite preist and thats assuming we've seen this whole force.

Again I must reiterate, these dudes are specialized for Anti-Undead work, chances are he's already lived through someone trying the exact same tactic you are suggesting.
 
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There may as well be two of him with the Morrite preist and thats assuming we've seen this whole force.

Again I must reiterate, these dudes are specialized for Anti-Undead work, chances are he's already lived through someone trying the exact same tactic you are suggesting.
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Yes and we specialize in anti-living work, every enemy we killed so far has been alive.

In fact here is a story about what happens when anti-undead experts meet the wrong vampire. The vampire is canonically still there... in Nuln not on the outskits of civilization like us.
 
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Well to be fair about facing only the living so far we haven't yet (knowingly)attracted the attention of the the Lahmians yet, who will likely be our enemies through jealousy and spitefulness.

I'm not saying we can't take him I'm saying we can't be reckless if we succeed at the cost of getting most of us hacked to bits that could leave the land vulnerable to worse attacks for a few years while our followers put us back together.

Honestly if when we unalive this man we had best not send his body back unless we really do want a response, we aren't a lone killer hiding in nuln we are what vampire hunters would probably see as an open and festering wound. Aren't there like ten or elven canon vampire hunting organizations and way more that dabble in it and would assist them? Do we want their attention to come to us sooner? I would hope not.
 
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Well to be fair about facing only the living so far we haven't yet (knowingly)attracted the attention of the the Lahmians yet, who will likely be our enemies through jealousy and spitefulness.

I'm not saying we can't take him I'm saying we can't be reckless if we succeed at the cost of getting most of us hacked to bits that could leave the land vulnerable to worse attacks for a few years while our followers put us back together.

Honestly if when we unalive this man we had best not send his body back unless we really do want a response, we aren't a lone killer hiding in nuln we are what vampire hunters would probably see as an open and festering wound. Aren't there like ten or elven canon vampire hunting organizations and way more that dabble in it and would assist them? Do we want their attention to come to us sooner? I would hope not.
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I mean this is still the border princes. If a commander of the Black Knights getting raised as a zombie and sent back with a list of insults nailed to his head did not cause multiple undead hunting organizations to converge on the city I am betting a statelet in the middle of nowhere killing one Amethyst wizard and his priest friend will also not do that.
 
I am betting it will, just not anytime soon, we are immortals sort of, we need to worry about what can develop over a century.
Either way, I see us gaining nothing by being spiteful, hell if we return the body properly it might even work to our favor once we are done with this.
 
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I am betting it will, just not anytime soon, we are immortals sort of, we need to worry about what can develop over a century.
Either way, I see us gaining nothing by being spiteful, hell if we return the body properly it might even work to our favor once we are done with this.
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Ah just to be clear I am not arguing for nailing letters of complaint to their corpses, I am arguing for killing them soon and that we can do it soon instead of waiting for he 'archwizard' to get stronger. Death mage killed by necromancer in the borderlands he was supossed to kill isn't a 'drop everything and call in the cavalry' emergency for anyone
 
No I don't think it is that bad either, I think it's for most of these factions a ''put a pin on it and deal with it in a decade if it's still there'' type of problem for them. Given who we are we might live long enough to see that response though. Especially if the empire keeps getting lucky like they seem to be.

Therefore even if it looks resolved we should not become complacent, we will likely have to remove this fellow from the mortal realms, but afterwards, we should do what we can to investigate which people exactly sent him and make a note of them minimum.

If we get very lucky these could be two fanatics acting alone entirely, but I do doubt that.
Sorry for misunderstanding the whole ''nailing'' thing though, I didn't mean to cause any upset.

EDIT: @Aranfan Was it guarenteed that this wizard would hate our guts or was it a hidden roll to see how independantly minded he would be?

EDIT 2: If we do kill him I'm for moving quickly too, I guess I'm just really really hoping we don't have to because like it sucks to be killing preists and magisters and I don't want other governments to have excuses to see us as enemies when we have pretty much no real beef with (most of) them.
 
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Fair enough, sorry for being bothersome. I guess I won't ask more questions on what has been rolled or not going forward.
 
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EDIT: @Aranfan Was it guarenteed that this wizard would hate our guts or was it a hidden roll to see how independantly minded he would be?

EDIT 2: If we do kill him I'm for moving quickly too, I guess I'm just really really hoping we don't have to because like it sucks to be killing preists and magisters and I don't want other governments to have excuses to see us as enemies when we have pretty much no real beef with (most of) them.
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The thing is they do not need excuses, compared to the 24/7 blasphemy fest that is our economy and military, you know with raising the dead for both, killing one wizard and priest would hardly register IMO.
 
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@Aranfan so for human necromancers are they generally okay using Dhar with heavy supervision and regular detox periods? And using it doesn't leave behind some horrific combo of magical radiation and lead poisoning that actively drives people towards selfish megalomania? Yeah that makes it much more viable as a prosocial force.

Also if using the warpstone to revive Modi didn't leave behind Nasty Stuff (tm) it seems like vampires are actually one of the best ways to get rid of warpstone+dhar for people who don't want it around.
 
Have you considered luring the wizard into some kind of trap?

For a basic outline, how's this: Supply false intelligence that you're about to do some stereotypical evil necromancer stuff at location X, which will grant you great power if it succeeds and which the wizard is perfectly suited to counter, and then it turns out that what's actually waiting a location X is some evil ritual theater props (tm) hiding a very conventional ambush.
 
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No, they don't need much in the way of excuses to burninate and mutilate us, but we can work to give them excuses not to do that.
 
I think we should formally ally with Dante. He seems to be reasonable, has a lot of military knowhow, and we need allies, since it seems like all our other neighbors are either indifferent in the case of the dwarves or want to kill us in the case of everyone else.
 
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