World of Chaos - Fantasy Crossover NRP
- Thread starter willyvereb
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- OOC
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- Germany
Wow.explains Khazaria, the wends... So, over twelve centuries of butterflies.
Nice.
Spartakrod
Judeo-Spartacist Bolshevik-Kabbalist
- Location
- Sanctum Arcanorum
- Pronouns
- Fae/Faer/Faers/Faerself
Anyone who can actually avoid terminal boredom while playing through the whole 700 or so year long campaign for CK2 and then the 400 year long campaign for EUIV on top of it has the patience of a saint or a game that was very meticulous in the prevention of blobbing.
Or mods.
Or mods.
Nerevarine
Sparkle-Cannon Mk. V
- Location
- Osaka
Whenever I got bored I'd just invade some Hindu state in India for shits and giggles, or try and send out missionaries and see what would happen. I got 7 Mobads jailed, but eventually Hungary saw the light of Mazda
Xantalos
Turtle-Speed Writing
Oh I'm afraid you've got me wrong - I'm just a probably annoying spectator to this. Unfortunately I don't think I can do any co-GMing or anything like that either, it'd be irresponsible to the other projects I've got going on.
Sorry, just watching how things go.
Spartakrod
Judeo-Spartacist Bolshevik-Kabbalist
- Location
- Sanctum Arcanorum
- Pronouns
- Fae/Faer/Faers/Faerself
There is a pretty good working EUIV->Vicky 2 converter, and there's a decent Vicky 2->Hearts of Iron Darkest Hour (or Hearts of Iron 3 if that's more your thing) converter if you really want to see where it all ends.
I believe that generally speaking, scenarios converted from Vicky 2 to Hearts of Iron make some form of massive industrial conflict in Hearts of Iron's timeframe essentially inevitable (which is a good thing because hearts of Iron is meant to simulate industrial warfare; it's not the best peacetime politics or proxy war simulator) which would likely provide for some good story telling.
Our incarnation of world war 2 was about twice as deadly as OTL's.
Many capitalists who fled from America and the Latin American states who turned red ended up settling in the states that formed the Axis; with the most notable example being Henry Ford settling in Nazi Germany and becoming the mastermind of Hitler's war industry (and also helping out other axis partners) which made the Axis more fearsome opponents. Similarly, the fear of communism that overtook western europe and its empires meant that they turned an increasingly blind eye to the Axis' shenanigans in the thirties, adopting a pro-axis neutral stance when war broke out in April of 1940.
This got to the point where France (whose pro-war center-leftist government recently lost an election to pro-axis conservatives) and Britain (who managed to utilize electoral confusion to ensure that the pro-neutrality tories won the general elections; defeating both Atlee's Labour party and Churchill's conservative league for action), decided to sit back and let Germany, Hungary, Romania, and Italy declare war on Poland. They also stood by and let the Spanish civil war be meddled with by the nascent axis; though American efforts at least preserved parts of eastern spain under CNT-FAI.
Brazil formed another portion of the Axis after falling to integralist fascism in the 30s in response to the red tide sweeping over south america; forming a bloc with the two guays, bolivia, and Venezuela and entered into a pact with Germany and later Japan, which meant that when Brazil entered the war; we got another bloody front. And in Europe; the Axis fought much more intelligently, with Hitler and Mussolini and friends pushing their countries into total war the moment that operation teutonic seemed to stall a few hundred kilometers short of moscow in winter of 1940.
Brazil joined in in late 1940 to try and sweep communism out of south america while the UASR was distracted opening up another front (and the most serious threat to the panama canal), and Japan decided enough was enough and decided to attack Pearl harbour in 1941/1942 to preempt America's involvement in the pacific in retaliation for America's support of the Chinese war effort. While the Pearl harbor attack wasn't the lossless success of OTL, it still set the Pacific fleet on a very bad footing (damaging multiple american fleet carriers who moved in to respond to the attack and sinking one I believe). And to make things worse, western europe was supporting the axis through every means short of war until 1942 when Hitler got word of a fascist coup forming in France to contest a French election of a pro-war government.
Throwing in Germany's support into the French civil war, Germany puts their preferred faction (which had the loyalty of quite a lot of the armed forces) into power in a swift assault before driving even farther to try and crush the Spanish republican rump state once and for all. And at the same time, a fascist coup in Turkey brings them into the war with the Axis opening a new front in eastern europe and also giving the Axis a gateway to the middle east which experiences awful bloodshed.
The capitalist allies move into Europe through portugal when Spain proves to be a less then reliable ally and also fight the western axis in the middle east and North africa; with the former front being joined by comintern forces (Communist Iran plays a large role here). They launch an air war against the integralist axis from the guyanas while the latin communists (with Mexico playing the largest role here due to America having other commitments, though America still makes a show) fight the Integralists on land. And then of course, is the pacific war against Japan and Siam.
Eventually material realities mean the Axis' defeat is inevitable. Turkey is (presumably) overrun and the middle east divided between the capitalist and communist occupation zones; North Africa also eventually results in Axis defeat and the vichy regime in France proves short lived as Allied forces roll through spain and through the pyranees; with occupied france going over to the forces of western europe (headed by the recently formed Franco-British union) almost as quickly as they can surrender. Italy decides the jig is up and surrenders once allied forces actually land in it. From the east, the American-Soviet steamroller eventually drives back the Nazi war machine from its apogee of being at the gates of Moscow and the caucasus back to its den. Hitler is captured and put on trial.
Japan as mentioned, falls to operation damocles as its short lived pacific empire retreats across all fronts, and the integralist bloc and siam decide to surrender and the integralist governments are replaced in post-war elections.
All in all the whole grim charade cost 100 million or more lives and dragged on from 1940 to 1946.
willyvereb
Migratory Thinker
The perks of using a good RPG setting as a baseline for your game is that it often has maps already sitting at your laps.
Translation and other touches still took quite a while, though:
Translation and other touches still took quite a while, though:
Nerevarine
Sparkle-Cannon Mk. V
- Location
- Osaka
Surrounded by nomads, its Just like the good old days in the 9th century
SillyGoy
Goius Sillius
- Location
- Philippine Islands
Hot damn, son. Troll-Hatten is only 111 kilometers away from the Japanese gate. I don't expect conflict to flare up immediately, and Japan won't make any offensive moves for the first few years, but when the time comes, the 27th Infantry can easily cover that area of responsibility even without support from their home dimension.
The UASR, Noble States, and the Immortals are also really close. I wonder what their interactions would be. I do hope that they'd start fighting among themselves. It'll give the Empire time to secure its footing - and hopefully its dominion.
@willyvereb
Edit: Requesting to be moved all the way to the coast.
The UASR, Noble States, and the Immortals are also really close. I wonder what their interactions would be. I do hope that they'd start fighting among themselves. It'll give the Empire time to secure its footing - and hopefully its dominion.
@willyvereb
Edit: Requesting to be moved all the way to the coast.
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Lord_Asmodeus
Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour:
- Location
- I AM A TIME MACHINE
The perks of using a good RPG setting as a baseline for your game is that it often has maps already sitting at your laps.
Translation and other touches still took quite a while, though:
Judging by the page number I assume that comes straight from a book right? I tried finding a picture of Maldiberan but I only found tiny pictures.
Also I'm glad I decided against putting down in Zhilian, don't have to compete with all those modern powers right away.
willyvereb
Migratory Thinker
Well, this is the map before the latest mass-emerge of various random factions from across the multiverse.
In all likelyhood some of those nomads are now Horse Riflemen bearing Kalashnikovs.
Yup, you are in Dwarfland and "close" to a mountain infamous for its LoTR-esque troll population. (If you consider 300-400km as "close")
And this was before the mess caused a few years ago.
:lol
As for the 3 nations interacting, well if you followed the OOC they're going to work together. Don't worry as I said it means they're facing tougher challenges.
Also your distance is massive so chances are high you won't interact with them for very long unless something big happens.
Gold Elves are much closer to you albeit still circa 4000km away, IIRC.
willyvereb
Migratory Thinker
Kaosz RPG, that's the name.
And well, I doubt it was ever released overseas. The rulebook is over a decade old and availible for download for free in a PDF format nowadays.
But again, not translated.
Besides, there are many elements which I am sure to not import into this game. Let's say what used to be acceptable in 2001 may not be so popular right now.
Besides, the setting is only a crutch, not the rule.
If it aids worldbuilding then I implement parts, if not, I leave them.
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Spartakrod
Judeo-Spartacist Bolshevik-Kabbalist
- Location
- Sanctum Arcanorum
- Pronouns
- Fae/Faer/Faers/Faerself
Post war Reds stuff:
Germany and Austria get divided into their occupation zones. The American and Soviet zones are conglomerated into east Germany and east Austria. The French and British zones are formed into a new monarchist germany and in my personal fanon; west germany and austria are merged into a single state to enhance their viability economically and militarily. West germany is made monarchist as the FBU and western europe as a whole regards all of German republicanism as irrevocably tainted either by Socialism or Nazism; so monarchs for the Germans!
In the former integralist nations; which largely acceded to a white peace as the terrain of south America meant that they were getting nowhere even with more than a half decade of war and Brazil was deemed to be enough of a challenge to invade after Japan was dealt with (given that everyone was already tired of war) to allow to give up on its own terms. The integralists though; decided to surrender to the allies before the comintern and were thus able to preserve capitalism in part of south America. Like Germany, Brazilian republicanism was deemed rotten to the core and the Pedros were invited to retake the throne of Brazil. The house of Yamato lives in exile in Brazil (a historical nod to Brazil having the largest community of Japanese people outside of Japan) after deciding to abdicate and leave Japan.
In the east; the Capitalist powers decide to compromise with the Communist powers. In exchange for not asking for occupation zones in Japan, Korea, and Taiwan; the Comintern will allow them to retain their pacific colonies in their pre-war states to allow them to pursue socialism at their own pace. Given the mood of detente and attempted post-war cooperation at this point, the Communists accept. This turns the North pacific into a largely communist lake but gives the burgeoning alliance of free states free reign over the southern pacific.
The Indian native elite decides to seek a compromise with their colonial masters; who are much less exhausted by the world wars than in OTL (America shouldered significantly more of the burden in the first world war and the French and British managed to win a forgiveness for their WW1 debts [and Britain nabbed the whole of the phillipines] during the American revolution in exchange for political recognition, preventing MacArthur's group from fermenting in American overseas possessions, neutrality in the revolution and so on), out of a worry of communist take over.
The FBU gets its nukes mere months after the Americans and Soviets and the dream of an easy transition to Socialism finally dies when new elections sweep conservative parties into power in western Europe and the Soviets have a split with America that lasts for the next four to five decades.
Germany and Austria get divided into their occupation zones. The American and Soviet zones are conglomerated into east Germany and east Austria. The French and British zones are formed into a new monarchist germany and in my personal fanon; west germany and austria are merged into a single state to enhance their viability economically and militarily. West germany is made monarchist as the FBU and western europe as a whole regards all of German republicanism as irrevocably tainted either by Socialism or Nazism; so monarchs for the Germans!
In the former integralist nations; which largely acceded to a white peace as the terrain of south America meant that they were getting nowhere even with more than a half decade of war and Brazil was deemed to be enough of a challenge to invade after Japan was dealt with (given that everyone was already tired of war) to allow to give up on its own terms. The integralists though; decided to surrender to the allies before the comintern and were thus able to preserve capitalism in part of south America. Like Germany, Brazilian republicanism was deemed rotten to the core and the Pedros were invited to retake the throne of Brazil. The house of Yamato lives in exile in Brazil (a historical nod to Brazil having the largest community of Japanese people outside of Japan) after deciding to abdicate and leave Japan.
In the east; the Capitalist powers decide to compromise with the Communist powers. In exchange for not asking for occupation zones in Japan, Korea, and Taiwan; the Comintern will allow them to retain their pacific colonies in their pre-war states to allow them to pursue socialism at their own pace. Given the mood of detente and attempted post-war cooperation at this point, the Communists accept. This turns the North pacific into a largely communist lake but gives the burgeoning alliance of free states free reign over the southern pacific.
The Indian native elite decides to seek a compromise with their colonial masters; who are much less exhausted by the world wars than in OTL (America shouldered significantly more of the burden in the first world war and the French and British managed to win a forgiveness for their WW1 debts [and Britain nabbed the whole of the phillipines] during the American revolution in exchange for political recognition, preventing MacArthur's group from fermenting in American overseas possessions, neutrality in the revolution and so on), out of a worry of communist take over.
The FBU gets its nukes mere months after the Americans and Soviets and the dream of an easy transition to Socialism finally dies when new elections sweep conservative parties into power in western Europe and the Soviets have a split with America that lasts for the next four to five decades.
SillyGoy
Goius Sillius
- Location
- Philippine Islands
My math earlier was wrong. Troll-Hatten is 585 km away; and I'm 1,315 km from the Golden Elves.
Also, requesting to be moved all the way to the coast.
Lord_Asmodeus
Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour:
- Location
- I AM A TIME MACHINE
At this point I almost regret not picking one of the Iron Kingdoms, like the Protectorate of Menoth or maybe Cygnar or Rhul. It would be interesting to see how a vaguely WWI Era Steam/Arcanopunk Industrialized civilization would react to and integrate the technologies of more advanced non-magical nations.
Spartakrod
Judeo-Spartacist Bolshevik-Kabbalist
- Location
- Sanctum Arcanorum
- Pronouns
- Fae/Faer/Faers/Faerself
They get Introduced to the Internet, leading to total societal collapse in a year as all national efforts are redirected to shitposting dank memes.
Lord_Asmodeus
Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour:
- Location
- I AM A TIME MACHINE
I think it would have been fun to try and play the Sul-Menites trying to rationalize multiple worlds of humans not made by Menoth.
But I also sort of hate the Protectorate, so I guess it's better I didn't go with them
But I also sort of hate the Protectorate, so I guess it's better I didn't go with them
sigmaunit
That one guy
@willyvereb
Are the dragons and other beast in draconia intelligent? As in smart enough to be reasoned with.
Are the dragons and other beast in draconia intelligent? As in smart enough to be reasoned with.
willyvereb
Migratory Thinker
Aside from the low ranking ones, all of them are.
Dragons were used to be the equivalent of superweapons for both Order and chaos during wartime. Albeit the number of these devoted ancient dragons got thinned down from attrition and besides the dragons here are aligned with Zhenia the chief goddess of balance.
Asie from dragons you can of course meet many other fantastic creatures and well, Drifters (yeah, let's call factions from other dimensions as that).
Only Yhennon's Island has protections ridiculous enough to control his whole territory and keep Drifters away.
The Emerald Castle has defenses and all but ou are thousands of kilometers awa from that.
Anyways, whom you encounter will be decided b @Mental Omega
He's going to be your GM.
I wanted to manage you but I'll have my hands full.
Whelp, so much for my plans of settling in draconia and domesticating local dragons.
Are the local dragons intelligent enough to hold a grudge over my guys using the less intelligent dragons from their dimension as mounts?
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Spartakrod
Judeo-Spartacist Bolshevik-Kabbalist
- Location
- Sanctum Arcanorum
- Pronouns
- Fae/Faer/Faers/Faerself
Unit Dossier: American Infantry (General Infantry)
In the year 2025, the cold war continues unabated between the capitalist and communist powers of the world, the era of detente between the Comintern and the Alliance of free states ended in 2015 with the discovery of 'Verse door technology and with new frontiers comes new avenues of cold war struggle. This means new frontiers for the American G.I, the figure that defeated MacArthur's wrongful putsch when the election didn't go his way, stopped the Axis powers and put paid to overt fascism, and served in innumerable post-war conflicts since then. From giving victor charlie a hand in Indochina to the bloodsoaked stalemate of Somalia and the sands of Yemen the G.I has seen a lot of war.
The modern G.I is a soldier drawn from the many races and creeds of the UASR; a volunteer proud to serve the revolution who has become infamous among America's enemies for his, her, or their tenacity and ingenuity. The modern G.I is typically armed with an AR-5 assault rifle which is integrated to eyepieces attached to their helmet to allow for greater accuracy and armored in the latest and greatest in light weight and comfortable but protective body armour, made from next gen materials like spider silk and carbon fiber. G.Is tend to carry a large number of grenades and have underslung weapons on their assault rifles; usually shotguns or grenade launchers.
While a tightly linked battlefield control and communication network is available to soldiers through the electronics in their gear, they are still trained to be able to operate without them if the need arises; and given the chaos of the battlefield; that's rather more common than you'd expect. Of course, modern soldiers do not travel light; and all manner of tools are carried by G.Is just like you'd expect from any other modern soldier; generally in a backpack that the untrained would balk at the thought of hefting; though MULE drones are increasingly common to help soldiers move without having to carry their loads at all times.
Like any other infantry unit on the current battlefield, G.Is can appear on the battlefield with something other than an assault rifle or a carbine. In missions where light weight and compact weapons are the order of the day, SMG-13 Thompson II submachine guns are carried; but in the case of hard targets, anything from L-tag smart grenade launchers to RPGL-21 rocket propelled grenade launchers, RR-7 recoilless rifles, or sickle anti-tank guided missile launchers can be brought up. Other times, mortars may be used to provide on the spot light artillery bombardment, and just about every squad has at least some specialists carrying SAW-3 light machine guns if not GPMG-60 or HMG teams using the old reliable M2 browning. Sniper rifles like the SRW-3 Springfield 2 semi-automatic or the AMR-3 Kraken 14.5mm anti-materiel rifle are in widespread usage to put holes in the heads and hearts of enemies. For air targets; FIM-121 Fang MANPADS are there to do the job of dealing with low flying targets harassing American troops. For close quarters assaults, ASG-3 automatic shotguns are just what the doctor ordered to make sure enemies don't remain alive for much longer. And of course, everyone carries a sidearm, an E-tool, and a combat knife/bayonet if things get really dicey.
G.Is make up the bulk of the American army's combatants as you'd expect from any modern army, and whether it's the freezing cold, humid jungles, scorching deserts, rolling plains, towering urbanscapes, mountainous outcrops, or any other manner of terrain, the G.I can be found there if the American people are committed to war. And yet, just as much as they are dealers in death or keepers of peace, they're often seen in humanitarian efforts to aid those struck by disaster; whether natural or artificial. The UASR's finely tuned propaganda machine makes sure to play up the image of the G.I as not just a warrior; but a helper to those in need, a comrade who fights for a day when war is a thing of the past, and a friend to all people. America does not fight to conquer; it fights to liberate, and G.Is are expected to help maintain that image.
In the year 2025, the cold war continues unabated between the capitalist and communist powers of the world, the era of detente between the Comintern and the Alliance of free states ended in 2015 with the discovery of 'Verse door technology and with new frontiers comes new avenues of cold war struggle. This means new frontiers for the American G.I, the figure that defeated MacArthur's wrongful putsch when the election didn't go his way, stopped the Axis powers and put paid to overt fascism, and served in innumerable post-war conflicts since then. From giving victor charlie a hand in Indochina to the bloodsoaked stalemate of Somalia and the sands of Yemen the G.I has seen a lot of war.
The modern G.I is a soldier drawn from the many races and creeds of the UASR; a volunteer proud to serve the revolution who has become infamous among America's enemies for his, her, or their tenacity and ingenuity. The modern G.I is typically armed with an AR-5 assault rifle which is integrated to eyepieces attached to their helmet to allow for greater accuracy and armored in the latest and greatest in light weight and comfortable but protective body armour, made from next gen materials like spider silk and carbon fiber. G.Is tend to carry a large number of grenades and have underslung weapons on their assault rifles; usually shotguns or grenade launchers.
While a tightly linked battlefield control and communication network is available to soldiers through the electronics in their gear, they are still trained to be able to operate without them if the need arises; and given the chaos of the battlefield; that's rather more common than you'd expect. Of course, modern soldiers do not travel light; and all manner of tools are carried by G.Is just like you'd expect from any other modern soldier; generally in a backpack that the untrained would balk at the thought of hefting; though MULE drones are increasingly common to help soldiers move without having to carry their loads at all times.
Like any other infantry unit on the current battlefield, G.Is can appear on the battlefield with something other than an assault rifle or a carbine. In missions where light weight and compact weapons are the order of the day, SMG-13 Thompson II submachine guns are carried; but in the case of hard targets, anything from L-tag smart grenade launchers to RPGL-21 rocket propelled grenade launchers, RR-7 recoilless rifles, or sickle anti-tank guided missile launchers can be brought up. Other times, mortars may be used to provide on the spot light artillery bombardment, and just about every squad has at least some specialists carrying SAW-3 light machine guns if not GPMG-60 or HMG teams using the old reliable M2 browning. Sniper rifles like the SRW-3 Springfield 2 semi-automatic or the AMR-3 Kraken 14.5mm anti-materiel rifle are in widespread usage to put holes in the heads and hearts of enemies. For air targets; FIM-121 Fang MANPADS are there to do the job of dealing with low flying targets harassing American troops. For close quarters assaults, ASG-3 automatic shotguns are just what the doctor ordered to make sure enemies don't remain alive for much longer. And of course, everyone carries a sidearm, an E-tool, and a combat knife/bayonet if things get really dicey.
G.Is make up the bulk of the American army's combatants as you'd expect from any modern army, and whether it's the freezing cold, humid jungles, scorching deserts, rolling plains, towering urbanscapes, mountainous outcrops, or any other manner of terrain, the G.I can be found there if the American people are committed to war. And yet, just as much as they are dealers in death or keepers of peace, they're often seen in humanitarian efforts to aid those struck by disaster; whether natural or artificial. The UASR's finely tuned propaganda machine makes sure to play up the image of the G.I as not just a warrior; but a helper to those in need, a comrade who fights for a day when war is a thing of the past, and a friend to all people. America does not fight to conquer; it fights to liberate, and G.Is are expected to help maintain that image.
munchkinomatic
Douchiest of Bags
- Location
- The land of Skepticism
The Let's Stop Dicking Each Other Until This Whole Commie Business Blow Over pact
i like Blue, so I'll go with that.
Can I get a list of where every players are?
Spartakrod
Judeo-Spartacist Bolshevik-Kabbalist
- Location
- Sanctum Arcanorum
- Pronouns
- Fae/Faer/Faers/Faerself
It took like, a literal missive from the Skaven's god for them to ally with the forces of Chaos during the actual end of the world and that was only because A. Otherwise Nagash had a good chance at becoming the sole god in Warhammer and B. They couldn't defeat the Warriors of Chaos on their own so may as well join them. And the pact has only held thus far because the Chaos Gods gave the Great Horned Rat Slaanesh's old position as the fourth major Chaos God and their own realm in the warp.
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munchkinomatic
Douchiest of Bags
- Location
- The land of Skepticism
I'm not asking for any kind of alliance whatsoever, but a practical deal. The UASR hates both of us, so let not shoot each other until we finish shooting it first.
Of course, I'm under no illusion that this is a betrayal free deal, why would I make a deal with Skavens if I'm not actively looking for betrayal?
Spartakrod
Judeo-Spartacist Bolshevik-Kabbalist
- Location
- Sanctum Arcanorum
- Pronouns
- Fae/Faer/Faers/Faerself
Well, everyone hates the Skaven and they hate everyone back. Even their own "allies" regard them as despicable tricksy cowards. To the point that when Archaon was going to be blessed as the incarnate of Chaos in age of sigmar, he outright refused the Horned Rat's gifts even if it meant leaving him substantially weaker than he could have been. Because fuck the rats. Given how the Skaven's birth rates demand constant expansion or constant attrition to prevent themselves from experiencing massive famine, they're likely going to be at war with essentially everyone in their way; even disregarding their ultra-intense xenophobia.