Warcraft: The Rise of the Mag'har

[X] I am unifier, the brother who seeks forgiveness and to heal the pains caused by my kind. (Water)
 
You do realize that everything you just said contradicts you saying you aren't ignoring the purified part of the earth option? Your so focused on how others aren't apparently pure any more that you are completely ignoring what 'the purified' means. Kaz and the other green skinned orcs and the broken Draenai don't have any fel energy in them anymore.

@torroar Can you elaborate what the words 'the purified' are refering to in the earth option?

"To have willingly stepped away from the taint, now and forever. It may have forever marked us, but it will not be who we truly are."
 
The Earth option give me the feeling that it would encourage helping the corrupted victims of fel less, and I want to do such thing as try to heal and purify the not yet aged up children the fel Orcs might have when we crush them.
This is incorrect on so many levels. That's not what the earth option is about at all. It's about taking pride in those who reject the ways of the horde whether or not they never followed it or followed it once.
I'm sorry if I'm not understanding or saying things correctly.

Also pretty sure green skinned Orcs and Broken still have very trace amounts of Fel magic in them that is a remnant of their altered appearance because of it though I may be wrong.
Your wrong. Let's put it this way. Take a glass. It's clear and has been used to hold clear pure water. It's then emptied out and used to hold water that has dye in it. When you empty it out and clean it you see that the dye has permanently lightly stained the glass the color of the dye. That is what happened with the broken and the greenskinned orcs. They are clean however fel energy has left a permanent mark on them.

[X] I am the free, that of the Mag'har. Pure, and purified, of the taint of fel things. (Earth)
 
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When you empty it out and clean it you see that the dye has permanently lightly stained the glass the color of the dye.
That sounds like even a little Fel magic being left behind but doesn't matter since GM explained things better.
[X] I am the free, that of the Mag'har. Pure, and purified, of the taint of fel things. (Earth)
If you don't mind me asking any reason for the change in vote?
 
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Except that Mag'har has nothing to do with your past, and all about what you choose to do to redeem yourselves?

Part of the problem with the "Modern" Horde is that they don't try to redeem themselves so much as they try to ignore that it ever happened.
[X] I am unifier, the brother who seeks forgiveness and to heal the pains caused by my kind. (Water)


I feel that everyone who is against the earth option because of the whole pure part of it has completely and utterly forgotten about the purified part of it. You know like Kaz and all the other former green orcs that know longer use fel energies and follow the way of the horde?
A nice sentiment, but the elements don't see things that way. Either you're pure, or your not, and Kaz is definitely in the not category by their reckoning, purified or otherwise.
 
That sounds like even a little Fel magic being left behind but doesn't matter since GM explained things better.
This topic has come up before and torroar used that analogy while stating that there is no fel energy left in them. None whatsoever.
I you don't mind me asking any reason for the change in vote?
Because I am annoyed by all the people failing to see the obvious about the earth vote and claiming that it means we are going to discriminate against people who have been affected by fel energy permanently when it's extremely obvious that's not what it means at all and would be majorly out of character for Dranosh.
 
A nice sentiment, but the elements don't see things that way. Either you're pure, or your not, and Kaz is definitely in the not category by their reckoning, purified or otherwise.
So you are saying the GM is lying to us then? Cause that's what I'm getting since the GM flat out stated the opposite. Plus Kaz doesn't even know the non fel based styles. We can teach her them when we are done this.
 
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A nice sentiment, but the elements don't see things that way. Either you're pure, or your not, and Kaz is definitely in the not category by their reckoning, purified or otherwise.
GM already explained that it is more than that.
This topic has come up before and torroar used that analogy while stating that there is no fel energy left in them. None whatsoever.
Alright then I'm sorry didn't mean to upset you I just understood it a different way but I have the right answer now thanks to you and the GM so thank you.
Because I am annoyed by all the people failing to see the obvious about the earth vote and claiming that it means we are going to discriminate against people who have been affected by fel energy permanently when it's extremely obvious that's not what it means at all and would be majorly out of character for Dranosh.
Don't mean to be rude but that sounds like a petty reason to change a vote.

Could I convince you to change your vote back to Water in any way?

It feels like it represents Dranosh most and we plan to keep doing things it represents as we move forward anyway.
 
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To be fair, this are primal elemental forces given form and intelligence.

Interpreting what they are asking and what the answers would mean to him isn't precisely cut and dry.

And no, I'm not going to just tell you. That defeats the point :p
 
To be fair, this are primal elemental forces given form and intelligence.

Interpreting what they are asking and what the answers would mean to him isn't precisely cut and dry.
That makes sense due to their completely different mindset that Jorin literally had to slap reason into them earlier.
And no, I'm not going to just tell you. That defeats the point :p
Also fair since this a spiritual decision of great importance.
 
[X] I am unifier, the brother who seeks forgiveness and to heal the pains caused by my kind. (Water)

Building, healing, uniting. That's what we've done so far and what we're going to continue to do. I think water is a good fit.
 
Building, healing, uniting. That's what we've done so far and what we're going to continue to do. I think water is a good fit.
Don't forget the path in the update is described as containing fish so it's safe to say this path is also best when it comes to caring for life in general.

That is what I got out of it at least.
 
Don't mean to be rude but that sounds like a petty reason to change a vote.

Could I convince you to change your vote back to Water in any way?

It feels like it represents Dranosh most and we plan to keep doing things it represents as we move forward anyway.
Nope. It may be petty but its one of the few ways i can take a stand against those that are still managing miss the trees for the forest.

I really don't want water to win because people are misrepresenting part of the earth vote. I can't being my to support a vote that has people voting for it due to a few inaccurately representing what another means.
 
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