mean, sure, she does enjoy it, and I suspect that she is much less traumatised than Addy is

Its totally the other way around. Addy does not view shards as family/friends and has no human-like connection to them, and in Administrative Mishap, she never *dwells* on the apocalypses she caused. That's not even a side plot in the story. Minnie's group did have emotions and culture, and Minnie clearly shows guilt for her actions as a Shard. She has a more child like mentality as well, and this is explored in other fics from this author with similar displaced QAs that never got to grow in terms of maturity.
 
Its totally the other way around. Addy does not view shards as family/friends and has no human-like connection to them, and in Administrative Mishap, she never *dwells* on the apocalypses she caused. That's not even a side plot in the story. Minnie's group did have emotions and culture, and Minnie clearly shows guilt for her actions as a Shard. She has a more child like mentality as well, and this is explored in other fics from this author with similar displaced QAs that never got to grow in terms of maturity.

As a reminder for anyone unaware, the reason Minnie was going to say non-host which Lena mistook for non-powered was because she had to create a tier of personhood to deal with the trauma of having to help kill off everyone at the end of every cycle

People: Shards
Temporary People: Hosts, who cease to be people upon death or the end of the Cycle
Non-People: Non-hosts aka everyone else on the planets
 
Lena isn't thinking at sufficient scale.

Make the lasers into satellites. Increase the aperture and intentionally include obfuscation materials that make the design "hard-coded" to a maximum energy throughput that is below the level of doing damage when at that diameter.

Then sell terrestrial receiver stations that can be deployed wherever you want. Just plug in wiring. Instant power grid for third world countries. Even better: since it's in space, all you need is an omnidirectional forcefield and point defense lasers on the satellite to ensure it can't be physically taken over and weaponized. And since THOSE can't be used on terrestrial targets, they will be seen as purely non-offensive in nature.

The ability to just drop a receiver antenna somewhere and have power available isn't to be undersold in terms of how it could benefit the poorer communities of the world. Especially since the setup is EXTREMELY non-militarizable and deeply eco-friendly. (Not just sending power production off-world, but eliminating the need for extensive power corridors in undeveloped land between communities.
 
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Lena isn't thinking at sufficient scale.

Make the lasers into satellites. Increase the aperture and intentionally include obfuscation materials that make the design "hard-coded" to a maximum energy throughput that is below the level of doing damage when at that diameter.

Then sell terrestrial receiver stations that can be deployed wherever you want. Just plug in wiring. Instant power grid for third world countries. Even better: since it's in space, all you need is an omnidirectional forcefield and point defense lasers on the satellite to ensure it can't be physically taken over and weaponized. And since THOSE can't be used on terrestrial targets, they will be seen as purely non-offensive in nature.

The ability to just drop a receiver antenna somewhere and have power available isn't to be undersold in terms of how it could benefit the poorer communities of the world. Especially since the setup is EXTREMELY non-militarizable and deeply eco-friendly. (Not just sending power production off-world, but eliminating the need for extensive power corridors in undeveloped land between communities.
Any other family name you would be right.

On a Luthor people would only see a death ray, no matter how fixed the throughput is.

Lex has poisoned the waters to the point that the assumption is that if you can't see the super weapon, he just pulled a fast one on you, and many people will be applying that to her.
 
Any other family name you would be right.

On a Luthor people would only see a death ray, no matter how fixed the throughput is.

Lex has poisoned the waters to the point that the assumption is that if you can't see the super weapon, he just pulled a fast one on you, and many people will be applying that to her.
Then just lean into it. "Lex left this energy-efficient design for a death ray behind. With little Minnie's help I made it into a power transmission device to help provide lighting and network service to impoverished communities."

"But it's a Death Ray!"

"One that provides vital services to the poor. As opposed to the Death Rays everyone else has. That are secret and not at all benevolent."

Bonus points for getting to smug at the villain who manages to actually take over the station only to realize that it was Minnie-fied against any kind of weaponization and now the whole world will know it.
 
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Then just lean into it. "Lex left this energy-efficient design for a death ray behind. With little Minnie's help I made it into a power transmission device to help provide lighting and network service to impoverished communities."

"But it's a Death Ray!"

"One that provides vital services to the poor. As opposed to the Death Rays everyone else has. That are secret and not at all benevolent."
Honestly, that may actually work. Maybe she will pull something similar in future chapters.

Now, attributing it to Lex would backfire hard because everyone would be scared of him coopting it via comic book bs hacking, but framing it as "everyone capable of taking this thing over could also just build their own, and if I wanted to have an orbital doom laser I wouldn't be this blatant about it" could work.
 
Make the lasers into satellites. Increase the aperture and intentionally include obfuscation materials that make the design "hard-coded" to a maximum energy throughput that is below the level of doing damage when at that diameter.
That's impossible when you try to move big amount of energy, unless Minnie start using shard magic.
 
That's impossible when you try to move big amount of energy, unless Minnie start using shard magic.
I mean Supergirl can fly because her cells eat sunlight (without looking like a black void too, she has to be refracting a wasteful amount of that too), and Lex turned the sun red IIRC. Who knows what can be done under physics like that?
 
I mean Supergirl can fly because her cells eat sunlight (without looking like a black void too, she has to be refracting a wasteful amount of that too), and Lex turned the sun red IIRC. Who knows what can be done under physics like that?
I thought we were giving consideration to physics, considering QA can't just make laser who phase through anything by the recover or something.
 
I thought we were giving consideration to physics, considering QA can't just make laser who phase through anything by the recover or something.

But addie is learning how to create things within the DC universe so she has to abide by those "laws" of physics...

I wonder if she could create something that can copy knowledge from someone... Copy lenas mind, strip the copies personality and absorb the knowledge and a shard like minnie would be pretty much all set in theory... As horrifying as such a thing would be you can't deny how effective it would be
 
Make the lasers into satellites. Increase the aperture and intentionally include obfuscation materials that make the design "hard-coded" to a maximum energy throughput that is below the level of doing damage when at that diameter.
Counterargument: Army of Tigers by Jonathan Young. We have one of those already and it's causing cancer. :D

Okay, I couldn't resist, but that is a good demonstration of the issue. There will be biological or environmental side effects before you actually obtain usable levels of power, with the sun as the main example. Solar panels provide what I consider the smallest reasonable amount of energy. You need large stationary arrays to get usable power; anything mobile has merely a trickle charge if it's smaller than a car. There's enough energy to cause noticeable heating to the planet (we call it "day") and it causes skin cancer from UV radiation.

(Corollary: you need to provide sun-equivalent levels of energy to a region before it's worth using your source instead of solar panels. Also, since it's so "diffuse" you still need solar-panel-sized collectors. Or actual solar panels, depending on what you're sending. And either way, the Earth is basically hotter by a day's worth of temperature change.)

Basically, orbital power can't compete with the existing orbital power source (the sun) and if it could, it would cause similar problems to what the sun does.
"One that provides vital services to the poor. As opposed to the Death Rays everyone else has. That are secret and not at all benevolent."
...That might actually work. Just flat out claim you're a (benevolent?) villain, but at least your stuff has useful side effects, compared to that other guy's death rays - his contain gluten!
 
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I wonder if she could create something that can copy knowledge from someone... Copy lenas mind, strip the copies personality and absorb the knowledge and a shard like minnie would be pretty much all set in theory... As horrifying as such a thing would be you can't deny how effective it would be
I would say doing such a thing would be easy even, shards do it all the time, how do you think they know when to use the power when a host asks.
 
Trying to provide power through somekind of wide area energy beam that is passively collected in some locations, and not others, would almost certainly end up causing some major issues with environment warming and affecting weather patterns.
 
Trying to provide power through somekind of wide area energy beam that is passively collected in some locations, and not others, would almost certainly end up causing some major issues with environment warming and affecting weather patterns.

That's a good thing though as you could leave that part out of the presentation/advertisements before coming back at a later time with a solution to this "unpredictable consequence"

Evil, but it happens all the time
 
But it's not blatant super villain BS though, it's standard corporation/politics BS, fixing problems they made in the first place and making everyone pay for it...
Giant doom laser from orbit destroying the local weather is very much blatant super villain BS.
Lena is also trying to move away from evil, so that's another reason why not to exasperate global warming for a quick cash grab.
 
Thinking about it they don't even need orbital facilities, if Minnie and addie could figure out how to grow the kryptonian solar panel Crystal thingies then they could renovate existing power plants with them or build new ones around the world and hook them up to existing power lines.

Given how good they are you probably only need a couple to equal the power output of a modern power plant on a cloudy day. Just triple the amount needed and use the krypton son stone thingy to store the excess power for a dark day/night time...

Kryptonians tech is bullshit and so long as you can figure out how to make it and production can keep up with demand why not make use of it?
 
Fusion and improved solar.
Better battery techynology.
More efficient wind power.

Addy and/or Minnie could revolutionize world power generation and usage quite easily if they put their mind to it.
And so could probably dozen other people if they were not busy trying to take over the world or something.
Or someone could buy a used FTL space ship from some random alien living on earth and reverse engineer it.
 
(Corollary: you need to provide sun-equivalent levels of energy to a region before it's worth using your source instead of solar panels. Also, since it's so "diffuse" you still need solar-panel-sized collectors. Or actual solar panels, depending on what you're sending. And either way, the Earth is basically hotter by a day's worth of temperature change.)

Non-ionizing water-transparent radio frequencies of laser say "hello". You set them up so literally only a rectenna can receive energy from them: the laser will just pass through everything else harmlessly -- and even if it didn't, it would be diffuse enough (thanks to the square cube rule for aperture diameter and energy density) that you'd have to stand still underneath it for hours to get a sunburn. Then you build your building-sized rectenna (receiving antenna) station wherever the power needs to be delivered and allow that location to enjoy 24/7 2x peak solar output equivalent.

Even the absolute best places for solar power can't provide even a quarter of that kind of yield, mind you: day/night cycles, angle of the sun reduces peak yield to only a fraction of the day, inclement weather reduces yields further, and so on and so on. By using water-transparent light frequencies you not only don't warm up the environment, you're harmless to bystander animals ... and you can ignore clouds and storms almost completely in terms of getting power to the receiver. By using a beamsat and reflectors you can target anywhere on the planet at all times as well -- meaning that you never drop power to the receiver.

And since you're not doing broad spectrum of light, you have no UV output to cause cancer or the like.

This is a real-world thing mind you: this is the sort of thing that people in the L5 Society have been advocating for literally decades.

I get the whole "comic book physics" thing, and "comic book villains and heroes setting", but that doesn't obviate real world stuff.

...That might actually work. Just flat out claim you're a (benevolent?) villain, but at least your stuff has useful side effects, compared to that other guy's death rays - his contain gluten!

"It has been my observation that heroes prevent villains from doing harm, but otherwise preserve the status quo. To disrupt society, to impose your will upon the world; these are the acts of a villain. Very well then, I shall be a Villain of Justice. I shall bend my labors and wealth towards building a better future for all thinking beings; one that enshrines as sacred the inherent dignity of all the peoples of the world and uplifts all those who choose to walk this path with me. Thus shall I rule the hearts of the world and lay wrecked beneath my ever so stylish heels the status quo."

Like I said. Lean into it.
 
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