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Unsanctioned Mishap (AdMis [Supergirl/Worm] / Sanctioned [Worm])

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Thats impressive Lena, its been like 2 days and you actually might be doing better than hestia. Granted you had some help from addy in convincing her she is safe, but its still really impressive.

Looking forward to the eventual Mega crossover when QA pulls a solo endgame portal scene.
 
Czlyydwr Llrngwl said:
Wow, Addie is just going to love Minnie's new plan, isn't she? /sarcasm
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she might actually tbh, Addy fears that Minnie has the same mindset as normal shards, ie, genocidal.... but this plan would imply shes being rebellious and doesnt want to follow in the other shards footsteps. that said Addy would not agree to giving a sample of herself, i doubt she fully trusts Minnie is actually QA and the fact Minnie needs a sample to turn into QA would reinforce that belief, afterall QA would have a sample of themselves already no? lol.



also @Alivaril i think you mean sapient not sentient? sentient just mean smart and can make a decision on the fly, programs capable of looking at a problem and determining an action counts....

i ask because Lena worrying this much over two chapters about "sentients" being killed is weird unless shes a Vegan because most animals are also sentient, pigs for example.... a non-vegan would therefore not care if sentients are killed in and of itself, sapience tends to be where people care as sapience is the marker of personhood and consciousness


Alivaril said:
Minnie and Addy could make a new, better colony based on the best ideas from both their multiverse clusters.
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awwww, QA has a crush on QA and wants to make a highly efficient family
 
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Well, I would love to see the magic Minnie could do with a bit of Kryptonian DNA. After all her specialty on the other fics always was biological, so she could probably easily take kryptonian DNA and make friends stronger and without the weakness. Maybe, if it does not have some kind of magic inbuilt.
 
Alivaril said:
Bloopers​

Lena looked down at Minnie's peacefully slumbering form and sighed.

I really, truly hope that your teenage rebellious phase doesn't involve an actual armed rebellion.
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Consider for a moment; qa letting Kephri happen was just a highly successful case of teenage rebellion gone wrong.

She even ran off, leaving all responsibility to others afterward.(from a certain point of view)
 
Really enjoying this but could someone explain Minnie's connection to her Taylor.
Addy as I understand it had her Taylor die but there's a faded copy of her stored?
No idea about Minnie apart from getting confused about what Addy thought about her a couple chapters back
 
XiaoYueMao said:
also @Alivaril i think you mean sapient not sentient? sentient just mean smart and can make a decision on the fly, programs capable of looking at a problem and determining an action counts....
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That's not what sentience means, either. Sapience is the concern when you know that something can already feel, such as for e.g. pigs, and would be what Lena was worried about if biological Friends were the subject of discussion. Sci-fi and comic AI can already be said to "think" in many cases even if their creators try to avoid self-awareness (and fail), and what you want to avoid is the capacity to feel (or if you want to split hairs, the capacity to experience), aka sentience.

But mostly, Minnie was the one to bring up sentience first and Lena is just following. Making something expendable be both (or even one of) sentient and sapient would be pretty unethical.

EDIT: Also, AdMis Lena is mostly vegetarian. :p
 
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Lector said:
Really enjoying this but could someone explain Minnie's connection to her Taylor.
Addy as I understand it had her Taylor die but there's a faded copy of her stored?
No idea about Minnie apart from getting confused about what Addy thought about her a couple chapters back
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Minnie and her Taylor essentially switched places when Taylor triggered, Taylor taking over Minnie's shard body and Minnie taking over Taylor's human one.

Minnie originally just tried to fill the place of Taylor while Taylor recovered enough to take her body back but since came to enjoy some of the aspects of interacting with people in the role of host. Taylor meanwhile was very confused, then started trying to plot to kill Scion once her new position let her learn of the cycle, and now she is doing that while also more or less intentionally making herself into more of a Shard because she prefers living as "Dreamer" to living as Taylor
 
Lector said:
Really enjoying this but could someone explain Minnie's connection to her Taylor.
Addy as I understand it had her Taylor die but there's a faded copy of her stored?
No idea about Minnie apart from getting confused about what Addy thought about her a couple chapters back
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Sanctioned/Minnie.
Instead of Taylor getting super powers, something goes wrong and QA tries to fix things because no way is she waiting for the next host.
So QA ends up in Taylors head, and Taylor is in QA.

Administrative Mishap/Addy
Addy comes from canon worm instead of humorous fanfiction, where Khepri happened, but instead of Taylor ending in earth Aleph, TAylor ends up dead and QA ends in DC inside Taylor's brain.
 
XiaoYueMao said:
that said Addy would not agree to giving a sample of herself
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Which is sad, in a way, because it would probably lead to more adorable outraged confusion. Keep in mind that while Addy and Minnie are both QA and are both shards, they're also from very divergent universe clusters, and there's a pretty good chance that they operate on subtly different physical laws and have different makeups. Such a sample would show Minnie how different they were: cue freakout.
 
Kellcat said:
Such a sample would show Minnie how different they were: cue freakout.
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Probably on the first, but I expect the reaction would be much fascinated SCIENCE! rather than freaking out. The whole point is to compare and contrast and create a superior synthesis of the two, after all; more differences means more opportunities for testing, combination, and improvement.
 
Actually as people meet the both of them and compare and contrast things they will probably get a very Grim picture of just why They are so wary of having more of their own species around
 
scheud said:
Lena's trust in the power of American Government is strong. But one would think that if they were so good, they would've stopped Lex from turning the Sun red.
And why, in her opinion, would they even think about making two invulnerable godlike entities even more invulnerable? Supers are already a huge security risk, why turn them into a security nightmare?
I was expecting Lena to be far more cynical about the situation, especially considering her company's borderline hostile relationship with the government.
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They're people like everyone else. The main risk I'd see in this setting is hostile action, magic, or mind-control, which were intentional weaknesses in the canon so they wouldn't be writing people who were essentially perfect. If she has a way to fix that, it's arguably an improvement not a detriment.

Of course, that would upset a ton of people, probably unethical ones who wanted to use those weaknesses, but it's objectively better. In reality, I agree this probably wouldn't work because it's hard to tell if objections are actually from unethical people, mistaken people, or self-interested people, and it's not right to preemptively accuse or attribute motives to people who simply disagree with you. But in a story it might work, since conservation of focus and tropes of modern storytelling mean that any antagonists are also objectively "bad."
 
Norr said:
I wonder how Lena would react if she knew the 'n'-word was non-person.
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I am reasonably confident that it was actually "non-host". That does, of course, translate very closely to apersonhood, and is even more so when used colloquially, but I believe that there are subtle differences which would be too much effort for me, personally, to bother translating, were I in a position to do so.
XiaoYueMao said:
Lena worrying this much over two chapters about "sentients" being killed is weird unless shes a Vegan because most animals are also sentient, pigs for example...
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Humans are very much inconsistent. Pretty much all products of evolution are, really. In this instance, Lena's focus is upon ethical considerations, especially with respect to Minnie, so "Is creating a human-identical mind to install into a bomb to act as guidance an ethical problem?" is currently very topical, whereas "Is it ethical to eat something that has been designed to want to be eaten, and will discuss how best to do so?" might be topical if partaking in Hitch Hiker's Guide, but is likely not topical when looking for food, where "is it healthy" and "will I enjoy the experience" are drastically more immediate. I personally feel that it would be more exceptional if she actually had a consistent ethical stance across all of her activities...
XiaoYueMao said:
sapience is the marker of personhood and consciousness
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I find it extremely difficult to resist stating that I find sapience to be an extremely dubious consideration. I can't help but to feel that it is about as sturdily-founded an ethical theory as blood-letting to balance humours was a medical theory. It seems pretty much entirely arbitrary to use as a standard, and I would equate it to a lyrebird civilisation having a "common sense" standard of "those weird bipedal things that we are pushing to extinction via habitat-destruction are ethically lacking our own sacred status due to their inability to mimic "in the proper way", and thus the clear inability to truly understand things via mimicry. Clearly they are thus just following evolved programming rather than truly "thinking" as actual persons do." without ever actually disproving that they themselves are just following their own programming, nor that following programming is somehow distinct from personhood, nor even if personhood itself as a concept is anything short of the most horrific ethical catastrophe of their time.

A lot of very clever people have thought quite highly of it, but the same can be said of balancing the humours. The scientific method has pretty much murdered such thinking whenever the two have disagreed. Reliable falsehoods have always been more productive and safer than unreliable truths.
Shance said:
her specialty on the other fics always was biological, so she could probably easily take kryptonian DNA and make friends stronger and without the weakness.
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Given that they both seem to be light-associated, and that red sunlight seems to act far more quickly than would make sense if yellow light was just a power-source, I would guess that all of the "expose a kryptonian to a coloured thingie" is all related. This is, of course, all pure speculation.

I would be rather more curious as to whether she can build a kryptonian solar-to-energy generator, design it with an internal yellow-sunlight generator, and in doing so have a compact, high-effectiveness, perpetual energy generator.

My musings on this issue have me considering what seems to be an odd trend in D.C. colour-theory. Green-lantern: stop crime; Green kryptonite: just stop; Yellow sun/yellow lantern: bide your time and grow more powerful; Red kryptonite/lantern: Go all out and don't stop for nuthin'!...

... Why is it the opposite of traffic lights?
 
Meanwhile

Kara is randomly crying while hugging Addy.

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Alivaril said:
She felt as though she was arguing with a peer who had fixated on an overly hasty idea—Serling.
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Yes! She is like beetlejuice, if you say her name enough times even in thought she'll appear.

I'm pretty sure she will LOVE to babysit Minnie in the engineering room, it won't be a problem at all.
 
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If Minnie decides to use Monarch as her surname, she will become a Mini-Monarch.

Which is adorable and will probably annoy Addy half to death.
 
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