Minnie visibly brightened, and Lena internally winced. She'd unconsciously slipped into rather revealing phrasing there.

"If that is her wish, I will not further jeopardize relations by contesting her decision. However, am I allowed to take that as confirmation of 'Plan A?'" Minnie asked, clearly suppressing excitement. "Additionally, the surname 'Luthor' would not be shared with Addy, correct?"

WTF wasn't she so outraged the last time someone denied her tittle that she almost started a war?

"Why doesn't this work?" Minnie screeched, stomping around the blast shield to petulantly shove the smoldering remains of her third prototype in five hours. "Life exists here, Earth's sky is blue, dimensional travel is known, I can speak, there's a clock based on radioactive decay right there, I even checked and at least some recorded portals look approximately like they should!"
Yikes It look like most of her exotic tech is gonna be hard to use
 
WTF wasn't she so outraged the last time someone denied her tittle that she almost started a war?
The only thing that comes to mind is that before, "Queen Administrator" was known to be her name/title, and the gods decided to deliberately snub her. This time, 'Queen' isn't acting as part of her actual name or title, but is instead part of a mere unimportant alias. As it's only an alias and thus not really her name, refusing to have that alias contain 'Queen' isn't as critical or insulting or what-have-you. The reasoning is also implied to be different - instead of "deliberate insult lulz", this is "don't be seen as related". If Minnie had been told of all of Addy's reasoning, that might have gotten a different reaction, but Lena's only revealing the "don't be related" part and not the "didn't earn it" part - which could easily have gotten a different response.
Yikes It look like most of her exotic tech is gonna be hard to use
inb4 somehow using geese for Friends solves the problem in ways Minnie doesn't understand.
 
I like how you completely took the wind out of everyone freaking out about the name. Checks out as well, she gains more benefits from the possibility of having Luther as a last name. And the Queen name is not even her title.

In INW, it was her title under attack. Here it is a name she just received.
 
Arguably more importantly, Lena couldn't stand the idea of Cadmus getting their hands on Minnie. They would inevitably use even an innocent little girl to help them create devastating weapons of assassination and slaughter, and were good enough at hiding that Lena wouldn't be able to locate Minnie for years. The excitedly bouncing little girl could, would, have been converted into a xenophobic zealot by then. All of Minnie's gifts turned to the trade of death instead of on helping people.
Sorry Lena, but...
What do you mean converted.
This is the person that assigns personhood on a trial basis only through personal recommendations.
Minnie is not xenophobic, she neither hates or fears those different from her.
This does not make her any less dangerous for anyone who fails to earn personhood.
Yeah. As these two above point out, that's kind of a lost cause. In fact, Cadmus managing to achieve that is actually reducing Minnie's target population.

There is a big difference after all, between a xenocidal being and an omnicidal one.
 
Lena is so excited about Minnie's future inventions which begs the question...
Am I wrong to assume that Minnie's Friends are TinkerTech, i.e. not reproducible and need constant maintenance? Isn't all of that just some sort of shard-fuckery (especially with those hats)?
 
Sorry Lena, but...


Yeah. As these two above point out, that's kind of a lost cause. In fact, Cadmus managing to achieve that is actually reducing Minnie's target population.

There is a big difference after all, between a xenocidal being and an omnicidal one.
And the attempt would most likely just make Cadmus the number one target of Minnie.

Best case scenario would be Minnie helping Cadmus fight aliens, while also making sure they can't win by arming the said aliens.
 
Lena is so excited about Minnie's future inventions which raises a question...
Am I wrong to assume that Minnie's Friends are TinkerTech, i.e. not reproducible and need constant maintenance? Isn't all of that just some sort of shard-fuckery (especially with those hats)?
The hats would be total shard-fuckery. For Tinkertech, however, Minnie is the Shard in question; she can decide to go for obfuscation, necessary maintenance, etc—and the maintenance is a product of obfuscation—or to refrain from those.

That being said, her first instinct is generally to ensure that Friends do not require excessive maintenance, but are still exceptionally difficult to replicate to the degree of requiring ludicrous precision.
 
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The hats would be total shard-fuckery. For Tinkertech, however, Minnie is the Shard in question; she can decide to go for obfuscation, necessary maintenance, etc—and the maintenance is a product of obfuscation—or to refrain from those.
Hmmm, but wouldn't you still need to be connected to a Shard to actually build/maintain it?
Even Contessa can only operate tinkertech to a limited extent, so what chance do normal 'mortal' scientists have?

Here's WOG (Wildbow's answer to Foxtail's theories about tinkertech):
One point to Foxtail on relevant quotes. Closest answer, really. Tinkering may be real science, but it's real science conducted by digging deep into shard senses and networks. Contessa can do this to an extent, but not to the point that she could just go full Tinker-9001.
 
Hmmm, but wouldn't you still need to be connected to a Shard to actually build/maintain it?
Even Contessa can only operate tinkertech to a limited extent, so what chance do normal 'mortal' scientists have?

Here's WOG (Wildbow's answer to Foxtail's theories about tinkertech):
Eh, yes and no? There's tinker tech and then there's Tinker Tech. Stuff like containment foam is tinker tech, but factory reproducible. Stuff like time bombs on the other hand…
 
Hmmm, but wouldn't you still need to be connected to a Shard to actually build/maintain it?
Minnie is still connected to the greater QA shard while humaning. The ROB that yanked her into this universe is sustaining the connection between Minnie and her shard - otherwise she'd be too far away to be connected. Taylor/Dreamer/etc can't communicate without ruinous expense, and even that is only because she can partially hijack Minnie's connection.
 
Eh, yes and no? There's tinker tech and then there's Tinker Tech. Stuff like containment foam is tinker tech, but factory reproducible. Stuff like time bombs on the other hand…
I don't remember whether containment foam is considered tinker-tech or not, honestly. But it's not actually produced by tinkers, so... probably not?
And most of Minnie's friends should be Big T - Tinker Tech, I think. Probably. Dunno.
 
Oh, I'm so glad. The previous chapter made me concerned with how incredibly negatively Addy reacted to Minnie. I'm pleased that despite that, Minnie still got a relatively thorough explanation for Addy's refusal to speak to her thanks to the wonderful info efficiency of shard speak. Minnie's sheer optimism and positivity here is a wonderful balm after Addy's stress and mourning in the previous chapter.
 
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I don't remember whether containment foam is considered tinker-tech or not, honestly. But it's not actually produced by tinkers, so... probably not?
And most of Minnie's friends should be Big T - Tinker Tech, I think. Probably. Dunno.
Iirc it's tinker tech, but I'm pretty sure they also produce it in factories.
Though, beyond that we also had a wog that contessa could make very low tier tinker tech(iirc would give her a rating around 4).

But yeah, Minnie's friends are not precisely low level tinker tech. Still, the things she'll probably end up making as body guards will probably be at least semi reproducible.
 
I don't remember whether containment foam is considered tinker-tech or not, honestly. But it's not actually produced by tinkers, so... probably not?
Dragon is technically a Thinker IIRC, but it's still considered Tinkertech.
And most of Minnie's friends should be Big T - Tinker Tech, I think. Probably. Dunno.
Putting aside whether you are correct or not (this honestly isn't the place to have an argument about canon Tinker reproducibility et al.), I will note that Queen Shaper is canonically a bud and should therefore only be Shaper. Plus, y'know, the personalities of Shards, Shard culture, and so on. Some liberties were taken. :p

thanks to the wonderful info efficency of shard speak.
*eyes file size*

Well, QA would at least agree with you. :V
 
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and I have Warp's data to refer to! Warp was never one of the ones to give me falsified information just because someone thought it would be funny!"
Hmmm, I wonder who's other data she has on hand?
Different physical laws or not, commonplace control over space implied a vastly different society than the one Lena lived in. She made a mental note to pack extra methods of entertaining Minnie should they ever go on a long trip; Minnie might have lived in a world where the other side of the planet was just a few minutes away. Kara hadn't said anything about Minnie reacting badly to the half-hour trip over, but a longer one might strain Minnie's patience if she wasn't kept occupied.
Lena is taking Minnie's abilities as a baseline isn't she? 😅
 
inb4 somehow using geese for Friends solves the problem in ways Minnie doesn't understand.
I can't help but imagine Addie and Minnie having an argument about what is the best feature of geese. With Minnie somehow getting her answers closer to the range of what the rest of their friend circle think on the issue. Like how a lot of people are wary of Angry Goose. In other words, probably concerning, just in a different way than Addie's opinions of "Hug the goose!"

Honestly, I had a backlog so this chapter was done before the last chapter was even posted. Any effects on readers were coincidental. :p
You mean you didn't send choice quotes backwards in time so that you could work in some changes into what you wrote? :p
 
Wait until Addie finds out that Minnie's version of Shards have a lot more personality and independent thought than hers. And Minnie is just a bundle of coping mechanisms from eons dealing with so many problems ranging from getting attached to hosts only to watch them die over and over to getting shit on by other shards because of her role in the network.
 
I can't help but imagine Addie and Minnie having an argument about what is the best feature of geese. With Minnie somehow getting her answers closer to the range of what the rest of their friend circle think on the issue. Like how a lot of people are wary of Angry Goose. In other words, probably concerning, just in a different way than Addie's opinions of "Hug the goose!"
Addy likes geese precisely because they're rude, unthinkingly violent, territorial, and can fly. The only place where they're likely to differ in opinion is that Minnie probably thinks they don't have enough venom.

Addy hugs them because she's invincible so they can't stop her.
 
I do like how Minnie is generally more outwardly expressing of emotion, but that being in both of their head's that they do have similar uhh not trains of thought but like not even the end points it's like they could easily agree on things from a different frame of reference. And then argue the second either brings up why. Granted we also see Addie be emotional, but be more self aware and also more irritated that they affect her in any way.
 
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"Why doesn't this work?" Minnie screeched, stomping around the blast shield to petulantly shove the smoldering remains of her third prototype in five hours. "Life exists here, Earth's sky is blue, dimensional travel is known, I can speak, there's a clock based on radioactive decay right there, I even checked and at least some recorded portals look approximately like they should!"

Oh Minnie.

Half a dimensional jump away there's this one dude who can run really, really fast.

Physics isn't real. There is only Run.
 
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