kinglugia
Hora hora~
It's a boar, so I'm pretty sure it's an acceptable target?
TreeQuest: Magitech (Riot Quest)
I realize I overreacted, I think it's fine as long as the animal doesn't get any pain.
Say no more fam, I gotchu!
Wild boars going ruining the farmer fields again? Why what a welcome challenge for the recruits!
The Froggy Ninja
The Blade Will Never Die
No, but I would claim to believe such to be true.
Yeah, that, plus the concept of honesty was what I was defining truth as. Basically my definitions were the following:
Truth=Something that the subject believes to be true, through logically valid justification.
Lies=Something the subject believes to be untrue but is trying to convince someone of OR something the subject believes to be true but which some link in the chain of communication of that belief believed to be untrue and successfully convinced someone of.
Reality=The objective state of existence regardless of any individual's perception.
Of course, it's possible that my definition of Reality is how the setting and magic define Truth but there's nothing I can do about that other than ponder the implications of magical elements being influenced by perception in general but not by the perception of the wielder specifically.
- Location
- Dragyxx
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
The thing is that magic here appears to operate at a conceptual level. Truth magic doesn't care one bit what you believe to be true, only what is actually True. If it could be deterred so easily as by mind-magicking yourself into believing something, it wouldn't be any good in a lot of cases anyway. If you teach someone that 2+2=5, and then use Truth magic, it will absolutely tell them that they are wrong, as 2+2=4 is the Truth, and you can't be subjective about math.
And anyplace where things are subjective, Truth just doesn't care and simply tells you straight up 'this person believes X' without having any opinion on X whatsoever, unless X is a real physical or metaphysical thing that can be confirmed or denied.
Honesty is its own thing.
And anyplace where things are subjective, Truth just doesn't care and simply tells you straight up 'this person believes X' without having any opinion on X whatsoever, unless X is a real physical or metaphysical thing that can be confirmed or denied.
Honesty is its own thing.
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Isnt this the barebones explaination of a reality marble spell?
- Location
- Texas
I know what all those words mean, but that sentence is gibberish.
What do marbles have to do with reality?
Sir Plusse
Overly Vicious Quester
- Location
- Kansas
Fate franchise reference (Marble Phantasm vs. Reality Marble). I think some metaphor about "ability to draw a single off-color marble every time" (Marble Phantasm, basically Luck magic taken to extremes) vs. "ability to change all the marbles' colors to match the off-color marble" (Reality Marble, temporarily rewriting reality) is the in-universe explanation.
Robinton
Probably petting Schrödinger's cat
- Location
- Scientifically proving a miracle
Note to everyone: The Talanburg Vote has been slightly updated with a new "if we go for the greater-spynet-takedown, should we dedicate Focus Actions towards it?" vote.
Also, as a minor note, I just wrote up a basic Google Spreadsheet for turn calculations. We'll see if it makes things faster, next turn...
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...Actually, I'll go ahead and add an option for "how many Focus Actions should we automatically dedicate, assuming the motion passes (this vote will have no effect if it does not pass)?"
Well, assuming - as you say - that the enemy base doesn't have em suppression (magic / faraday cage). Which is likely correct.
Some sort of general "make this hard to find" Magic is far more likely than a direct suppressor, and while the general defense might give you issues, you'd have good odds of getting at least a general reading...
Bad news: you'd have to turn the radios up REALLY intense to measure anything via this method. Reasoning: only maybe - let's use metric, I think the math will be easier - maybe 10 meters' worth of photons in a very good case will get teleported, which means you're getting a photon burst for (10 meters / 3.0*10^8 meters/second) = 3.3*10^-7 seconds. And while your sensors are good, for "faint background radiation from far across the planet" you really need a fair fraction of a second, if not multiple seconds. Ancient Sensing Trees could probably bypass this fully.
Better news: the portals work the easy way anyway.
Also, as a minor note, I just wrote up a basic Google Spreadsheet for turn calculations. We'll see if it makes things faster, next turn...
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I'll put up a version of that - more an option of dedicating 1-4 Focus Actions.
That seems a decent guess, yeah. With a fair bit of Research and maybe the odd Survival for e.g. disguising your presence somewhere.
If there's a strong request for "forcibly devote 2 Focus Actions towards this - barring extraordinary circumstances, particularly battles" - yeah, I'm willing to add that as a contingency for the "break their spynet" option.
...Actually, I'll go ahead and add an option for "how many Focus Actions should we automatically dedicate, assuming the motion passes (this vote will have no effect if it does not pass)?"
Huh. I'd have to check the math on that - but the basic idea is sound.
Well, assuming - as you say - that the enemy base doesn't have em suppression (magic / faraday cage). Which is likely correct.
Some sort of general "make this hard to find" Magic is far more likely than a direct suppressor, and while the general defense might give you issues, you'd have good odds of getting at least a general reading...
Given that your senses stretch through the things, you're fairly certain this is roughly correct. Doorways through space, not "swapping matter/space."
Good news: this is an awesome idea. It might well work if the enemies were nearby (which you don't think is the case).
Bad news: you'd have to turn the radios up REALLY intense to measure anything via this method. Reasoning: only maybe - let's use metric, I think the math will be easier - maybe 10 meters' worth of photons in a very good case will get teleported, which means you're getting a photon burst for (10 meters / 3.0*10^8 meters/second) = 3.3*10^-7 seconds. And while your sensors are good, for "faint background radiation from far across the planet" you really need a fair fraction of a second, if not multiple seconds. Ancient Sensing Trees could probably bypass this fully.
Better news: the portals work the easy way anyway.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Just gonna repost my vote, then.
[X][Action] Investigate Andrewsburg
[X][Focus] Investigate Andrewsburg
[X][Focus] Investigate Andrewsburg x2
[X[Focus] Write-in: Investigate the Talanburg cell's contacts
[X[Focus] Write-in: Investigate the Talanburg cell's contacts x2
[X][AutoFocus] Clan Infiltration
-[X]1 Focus to investigate and (quietly!) subvert Woo spy network cells where found.
-[X]Other focus to continue as in "Preparing for & keeping busy in Winter"
[X][Squirrel] Write-in: Investigate the Talanburg cell's contacts
[X][Corvids] Investigate Andrewsburg
[X][Talanburg] Write-in: Focus our efforts on tracking and subverting our known out-of-town contacts. Any actions against the Talanburg cell's interference should be strictly deniable or beneath notice. Walk away if we have to.
[X][Talanburg] Write-in - Run interference with/take over the spynet to prevent it from impacting the negotiations, while gathering as much evidence as possible, for as long as we can make it appear to the spynets handlers that any failures are not noticed or are otherwise attributed to 'bad luck', but make no actual use of it in the treaty negotiations - make a point of dealing with the people of Talanburg fairly, with the intention of presenting all gathered information to relevant Talanburg folk when we believe that our control/interference of the network is at risk of being noticed.
[X][Talanburg] Walk Away
EDIT:
[X][Talanburg] Write-in: Walk away for now, to fully Focus on subverting the spy-network. Return when the network is subverted.
[X][Spynet Focus] 3
[X][Spynet Focus] 4
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IamtooSleepy
I came here to be an ant
[X][Talanburg] Write-in: Focus our efforts on tracking and subverting our known out-of-town contacts. Any actions against the Talanburg cell's interference should be strictly deniable or beneath notice. Walk away if we have to.
[X][Talanburg] Walk away
[X][Spynet Focus] 1
[X][Action] Investigate Andrewsburg
I wanted to do Incorporated Growth, but now I want to poke the Woo clan spy network more.
[X][Focus] Void Forest (Magic) (Void) (Magic Research)
[X][Focus] Grow Relay Trees
[X][Focus] Incorporate Plant <Blackberries and Raspberries>
[X][Squirrel] Assist with Incorporated Growth
[X][Deer] Focus on growing the Relay Trees
[X][Corvids] Contribute to Hevel
[X][Lesser Wraith] Assist with Void Forest
[X][Dire Bat] Search for native Dire Bat populations
[X][Talanburg] Walk away
[X][Spynet Focus] 1
[X][Action] Investigate Andrewsburg
I wanted to do Incorporated Growth, but now I want to poke the Woo clan spy network more.
[X][Focus] Void Forest (Magic) (Void) (Magic Research)
[X][Focus] Grow Relay Trees
[X][Focus] Incorporate Plant <Blackberries and Raspberries>
[X][Squirrel] Assist with Incorporated Growth
[X][Deer] Focus on growing the Relay Trees
[X][Corvids] Contribute to Hevel
[X][Lesser Wraith] Assist with Void Forest
[X][Dire Bat] Search for native Dire Bat populations
- Location
- Queensland, Australia
Oh. Damn. This just gave me a really weird, extremely cool and all too possible idea for a Quad-Negacion.
Truth/Lies/Illusion/Void.
Void is the Truth of Absence, Illusion is the Lie of Presence. Truth is the Illusion of Certainty, Lies are the Void of Doubt. When they are meet, the Reality of Existence is woven.
So are we doing a full disclosure or are we doing finding perfect proof, and can we use our individual dice to help whichever we choose? Because I am willing to stall my research if only to help either option.
EDIT: or are we further infiltrating the network to collapse the system in greater effect?
EDIT: or are we further infiltrating the network to collapse the system in greater effect?
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Um... I would like an answer for this so I know if I should do my best helping things with my lone dice?
That depends on the results of the [Talanburg] vote.
[X][Talanburg] Write-in: Focus our efforts on tracking and subverting our known out-of-town contacts. Any actions against the Talanburg cell's interference should be strictly deniable or beneath notice. Walk away if we have to.
[X][Action] Write in: Assist in either Talanburg Full disclosure or subverting the contacts, whichever wins
[X][Action] Write in: Assist in either Talanburg Full disclosure or subverting the contacts, whichever wins
I think I'm going to change my vote to :
[]Write-in: Focus our efforts on tracking and subverting our known out-of-town contacts. Any actions against the Talanburg cell's interference should be strictly deniable or beneath notice. Walk away if we have to.
It seems the most logical I guess.
(PS. I'm doing the change in my actual vote, just as a note.)
[]Write-in: Focus our efforts on tracking and subverting our known out-of-town contacts. Any actions against the Talanburg cell's interference should be strictly deniable or beneath notice. Walk away if we have to.
It seems the most logical I guess.
(PS. I'm doing the change in my actual vote, just as a note.)
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@Robinton is the "[] Write-in: Focus our efforts on tracking and subverting our known out-of-town contacts. Any actions against the Talanburg cell's interference should be strictly deniable or beneath notice. Walk away if we have to." obsolete with the changes to the Talanburg options? Would the Spynet Focus still be activated if it win?