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Krain said:
Can we at least please wait and see what we're being offered by them and then the Sidereals?
We don't even know what this Getimian would like in the first place
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I wouldn't turn down their help, but the Getimians have problems with most of Heaven, not just Sidereals, so a permanent deal isn't likely to be healthy.

Not that we have much choice when dealing with the Hunt, given how outgunned we are.
 
Krain said:
Can we at least please wait and see what we're being offered by them and then the Sidereals?
We don't even know what this Getimian would like in the first place
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Getimian might be nice, yes. But Gold faction Sids and the God of Luck (blanking on the name) are both just as viable and much more preferable.
 
So, I went for:
  • Military: Hammer of the North, Law of the Wyld-Eastvale Pass
  • Diplomacy: Sizing up your neighbors
  • Learning: Book of Boundless Shards
  • Piety: Public Education, Mendicants
  • Intrigue: Booby Trapping isn't just for the bad guys, Watching them closely
  • Personal Actions: Chosen of the Sun, Intense Training
  • Altren Intervention: Hammer of the North, Booby Trapping isn't just for the bad guys
  • Neiya Intervention: Booby Trapping isn't just for the bad guys
I think that I am with the consensus on Military, Diplomacy, Piety, Intrigue, and Neiya Intervention. So, here are my reasoning for Learning, Personal Actions, and Altren Intervention.

The other option for Learning is Law of the Wyld-Character Witnesses. While reducing wyld hunt suspicion is important, so is improving our military. We have already taken Law of the Wyld-Eastvale Pass, and our suspicion is quite low at the moment, so I don't think Character Witnesses is very useful. Also, I don't want to arm our enemies. :p

In personal actions category, I think almost everyone takes Chosen of the Sun. I favor Intense Training as I really want to get a new trait as soon as possible. I am hesitant about Go Adventuring as I don't want to make up deals with the enemies of Creation unless I have to.

In Altren Intervention case, I am going with Hammer of the North, as we want to get our Military better as soon as possible. Booby Trapping isn't just for the bad guys because it is our only action which has a chance to hurt the hunt.
 
I don't suppose I could convince more people to go with meeting
Because, well, if this IS a celestial exalt that'd be interested in helping us, that's some more PIs, which we really need.

veekie said:
I wouldn't turn down their help, but the Getimians have problems with most of Heaven, not just Sidereals, so a permanent deal isn't likely to be healthy.[/quote
We don't even know what this Getimian's deal is.
And, hell, it's not like Lunars are super-good for the current state for Creation, either (Neiya certainly doesn't seem too impressed), but there's still a desire to interact with the Silver Pact.

Hell for all people know this Getimian could represent a reformation faction.

Not that we have much choice when dealing with the Hunt, given how outgunned we are.
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Yep, that's another thing.

NotAlwaysFanfic said:
Getimian might be nice, yes. But Gold faction Sids and the God of Luck (blanking on the name) are both just as viable and much more preferable.
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Assuming we survive up to post-chapter 4.
That's a thing that plenty of people seem to forget.

We're NOT getting Sidereal aid against the Realm's upcoming attacks, or the Wyld Hunt presence (if anything we're gonna get attacked by Sidereals).
We're NOT getting divine aid either.
We're NOT getting the Silver Pact helping us out.
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I think we should aim to ally ourselves with the suspected Lunar exalted here. Also, I think Uvanavu, and Luranume will be quite willing to help us in indirect ways.

Let's avoid making deals with Getimians, we are not that bereft of options.

I think we can get help from Silver Pact if we play our cards right in chapter 4.
 
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BSRK Aditya said:
I think we should aim to ally ourselves with the suspected Lunar exalted here. Also, I think Uvanavu, and Luranume will be quite willing to help us in indirect ways.

Let's avoid making deals with Getimians, we are not that bereft of options.
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They won't.
We need to survive Chapter 4 without their help before they'd be willing to do anything.

So yes.
We ARE that bereft of options, because everyone will assume we'll be stomped like an insect so they won't bother wasting resources on us.

(And for goodness sake, do people know that this is ONE Getimian, and we're not making a deal with all of them?!)
 
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Question, have we ever gone gallivanting off to explore the nation? I think we've spent all our time doing things to help the nation.
 
Krain said:
They won't.
We need to survive Chapter 4 without their help before they'd be willing to do anything.

So yes.
We ARE that bereft of options, because everyone will assume we'll be stomped like an insect so they won't bother wasting resources on us.

(And for goodness sake, do people know that this is ONE Getimian, and we're not making a deal with all of them?!)
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If, for example, the Wyld Hunt catches the scent of our suspected lunar, and we team up to defeat the Wyld Hunt now, that could be the beginning of an organic alliance between us and the silver pact. I am not expecting them to drop everything and come to save us, we may simply attract some newly exalted lunars to team up with us, rather than risk getting defeated in detail.
 
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BSRK Aditya said:
If, for example, the Wyld Hunt catches the scent of our suspected lunar, and we team up to defeat the Wyld Hunt now, that could be the beginning of an organic alliance between us and the silver pact. I am not expecting them to drop everything and come to save us, we may simply attract some newly exalted lunars to team up with us, rather than risk getting defeated in detail.
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From their point of view, why would they spend resources on a Solar that will die in at most a few years?

Hell we don't even know if there really is a Lunar there.
And if there is I doubt they'd be all that happy with us to the point where they'd like to stay here and possibly die with us.
 
Alectai said:
If someone can do up the Threadmark Target except for my username password, that'd be appreciated. Because uuugh, effort.
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[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/posts/2381621/]Character Sheet/State of the Realm/Important Figures[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-7#post-2382016]Turn One[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-9#post-2385714]Turn One Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-10#post-2387398]Turn One: Clash at Eastvale Pass[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-11#post-2387930]Turn Two[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-17#post-2393669]Turn Two Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-19#post-2395328]Turn Three[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-22#post-2399973]Turn Three Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-22#post-2400013]Turn Three: Heavenly Politics[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-24#post-2402258]Turn Four[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-28#post-2407318]Turn Four Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-30#post-2408952]Turn Five[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-33#post-2414608]Turn Five Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-34#post-2415613]Turn Six[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-38#post-2419287]Turn Six Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-39#post-2419420]Battle at Karan Redoubt: Part One[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-40#post-2419960]Battle at Karan Redoubt: Part Two[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-42#post-2420408]Battle at Karan Redoubt: Part Three[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-45#post-2421192]Battle at Karan Redoubt: Part Four[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-45#post-2421363]Battle at Karan Redoubt: Part Five[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-47#post-2421664]Battle at Karan Redoubt: Conclusion[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-49#post-2422030]Intermission One[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-58#post-2426537]Intermission One Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-67#post-2435486]Turn Seven[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-73#post-2440526]Turn Seven Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-79#post-2447152]Turn Eight[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-82#post-2451389]Turn Eight Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-89#post-2455044]Turn Nine[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-90#post-2459088]Turn Nine Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-93#post-2465191]Turn Ten[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-96#post-2474157]Turn Ten Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-96#post-2474190]Turn Ten Rumors[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-100#post-2478832]Turn Eleven[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-104#post-2487047]Turn Eleven Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-106#post-2488391]Turn Eleven Rumors[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-106#post-2488678]Turn Twelve[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-109#post-2491155]Turn Twelve Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-115#post-2496587]Turn Thirteen[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-119#post-2503243]Turn Thirteen Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-128#post-2521957]Turn Fourteen[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-134#post-2527519]Turn Fourteen Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-136#post-2534822]Keep on the Borderlands: Part One[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-138#post-2537892]Keep on the Borderlands: Part Two[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-140#post-2539303]Keep on the Borderlands: Part Three[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-144#post-2543736]Keep on the Borderlands: Part Four[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-149#post-2546199]Keep on the Borderlands: Part Five[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-160#post-2550229]Keep on the Borderlands: Part Six[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-162#post-2551359]Keep on the Borderlands: Conclusion[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-162#post-2551670]Intermission Two: Start[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-185#post-2564418]Intermission Two: Continued[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-212#post-2589121]Intermission Two: Part Two[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-229#post-2600062]Intermission Two: End[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-248#post-2750594]Turn Fifteen[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-255#post-2757384]Turn Fifteen Results[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-260#post-2762942]Turn Fifteen: The Hunt Begins[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-263#post-2764541]Turn Fifteen: Audience with the Dragon[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/through-the-ages-exalted-ck2-style-empire-builder.12336/page-274#post-2774971]Turn Sixteen[/url]
[url=http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/posts/2776027/]Turn Sixteen Survey[/url]
Shows up as:
Character Sheet/State of the Realm/Important Figures
Turn One
Turn One Results
Turn One: Clash at Eastvale Pass
Turn Two
Turn Two Results
Turn Three
Turn Three Results
Turn Three: Heavenly Politics
Turn Four
Turn Four Results
Turn Five
Turn Five Results
Turn Six
Turn Six Results
Battle at Karan Redoubt: Part One
Battle at Karan Redoubt: Part Two
Battle at Karan Redoubt: Part Three
Battle at Karan Redoubt: Part Four
Battle at Karan Redoubt: Part Five
Battle at Karan Redoubt: Conclusion
Intermission One
Intermission One Results
Turn Seven
Turn Seven Results
Turn Eight
Turn Eight Results
Turn Nine
Turn Nine Results
Turn Ten
Turn Ten Results
Turn Ten Rumors
Turn Eleven
Turn Eleven Results
Turn Eleven Rumors
Turn Twelve
Turn Twelve Results
Turn Thirteen
Turn Thirteen Results
Turn Fourteen
Turn Fourteen Results
Keep on the Borderlands: Part One
Keep on the Borderlands: Part Two
Keep on the Borderlands: Part Three
Keep on the Borderlands: Part Four
Keep on the Borderlands: Part Five
Keep on the Borderlands: Part Six
Keep on the Borderlands: Conclusion
Intermission Two: Start
Intermission Two: Continued
Intermission Two: Part Two
Intermission Two: End
Turn Fifteen
Turn Fifteen Results
Turn Fifteen: The Hunt Begins
Turn Fifteen: Audience with the Dragon
Turn Sixteen
Turn Sixteen Survey
 
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I don't think we need the whole table of contents, just the character sheet post, the latest vote chapter, and the most recent survey post for easy access.
 
Jorlem said:
I don't think we need the whole table of contents, just the character sheet post, the latest vote chapter, and the most recent survey post for easy access.
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Might as well actually use the bulk threadmarking tool for bulk threadmarking, and it's better to do the whole job once than come back over and over when people complain because only some of the posts are in the Threadmarks.
Added the Turn Sixteen Survey, though.

(Also, it makes it easier for me [and anyone else who finds this quest and is interested] to go and archive binge this later.)
 
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