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The Valkyrior (MCU Thor/Worm)
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Amberion
Mighty #9
It's not a particularly interesting footnote though. I look forward to things actually happening. Worldbuilding is fine and all, but stories thrive on conflict.
bobnik
Memetic Warfare Specialist.
I don't mind that sort of thing though. It's a good excuse not to rehash events. Mind control is rendered of reduced effectiveness, so the bad guys try something else.
While Shield has quite nasty Hydra infiltration it seems it mostly low-mid tier agents and some guys in other agencies. Most leaders and high level agents seem to be loyal so if Fury somehow knew that Shield is infiltrated they could fix it. Fury would have a protocol for just that.
Why does everyone keep assuming that the various agents are going to be using the "hail Hydra" phrase often enough to get caught? It is apparently only something used when agents are introduced to one another, not in random conversations.. except for the monumentally stupid agents. Thus it is entirely possible that Taylor won't hear that line in time to matter.
Combine that with the fact that Taylor is (on paper) a gold-mine of information on dealing with, organizing, fighting against, and utilizing people with "gifts" and I'm convinced that "stupid" Hydra agents won't get anywhere near her. The more subtle, skilled, and higher ranking members of Hydra will be trying to slither their way in..
Hotdog Vendor
Author of 'Sisters of Rail'
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Oh dear, must we inflict PRT ratings and the accompanying arguments upon SHIELD?
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It's Taylor's master plan - She'll undermine SHIELD by turning it into SUFFICIENT V...I mean PHO
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ChaosTheVoid
Beyond the Outer Gates
Really? The Level 10 agent who recruited Nick Fury himself, Alexander Pierce is Hydra. They are infested from top to bottom.
Btw, just got back from watching Age of Ultron. Blew me away. It was amazing.
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Know what's awesome about that? The end of Avengers, where Loki tinks it against Stark's 'heart'.
"But it didn't do anything to me!"
"Sorry Mr Stark, you know the rules."
"But I'm fine! I kept fighting him! You can't be serious!"
"Director's orders Mr Stark. Master/Stranger protocols until we work out how long any potential effects might last. Quarantine until you finish dismantling the various suits and gadgets that you used or accessed through the fight from the point of contact."
"But... that's almost everything I've got!"
"It also includes your tower sir."
"WHAT?!"
"Well, it, along with it's security systems, was clearly infiltrated."
"You can't be serious! You can't do this to me!"
"I'm sorry Mr Stark. If it makes you feel better, I'm authorized to inform you that Ms Potts has already began drawing up plans for the next one."
"Oh god!"
"She told me to tell you, and I quote, 'I'll make sure to brand it just the way we agreed.' end quote."
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Hell M/s quarantine after the battle and associated therapy might help him with his PTSD problem. Because he was unconscious on the other side of an alien portal...
That's the second time I've seen someone say that in the last few days.
Is SV getting infiltrated by space whales??
OverReactionGuy
Verified Sanity
I am more worried about the damn space spiders myself.
Rinn
Coffee Addict
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Shit, they're onto us- uhhhh... I mean, NO! OF COURSE IT ISN'T! HAHAHA, WHATEVER MAD YOU THINK THAT!? *sotto*c'mon, guys, help me out here!! */sotto*
Garrett and Sitwell might not be on Hill's level, but they're not exactly "low-mid tier". Not to mention Pierce. There's enough high-level infiltration - and enough capability for it in a group that's been working with SHIELD since almost the beginning, possibly before Fury was even born - that you've got to play it by ear. Canonically, Hill was the only high-level SHIELD agent he trusted with his existence immediately after being "killed".
So... what's happening with the Tesseract? You know, the subject of the high energy research facility that Taylor was originally sent in to investigate? No-one from the Asgard side gonna ask them what project PEGASUS is?
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Amberion
Mighty #9
[DENIAL]
I'm just a little bit disappointed. Don't get me wrong, the story is awesome, but I feel like Taylor wouldn't reveal her powers until she has no other choice. It feels like she just wanted to look dramatic and impressive in front of Fury. I can see her deciding to stop hiding her ability if she's backed into a corner, about to die or something, but there wasn't sufficient reason here.
And... She comes from an all-powerful place (Asgard), is really strong and tough and the way she ends up with SHIELD... it feels like they're forcing her into it, doing her a favour by taking her in, like she's being manipulated and taken in against her will because SHIELD is just that much better, which doesn't make sense. Basically, it feels like she's incompetent by revealing all that info on Asgard instead of at least trying to question Coulson in return. She was giving them all that info and even though she had bugs sweeping the place and it wasn't for nothing, wouldn't SHIELD think something's up, with how easily she answers their questions? Basically, SHIELD are getting tons of stuff out of her way too easily (which annoys me, because she wouldn't give it out that easily without a better reason) and they aren't even suspicious about how willing she is to Spill everything?
It feels like she isn't cautious enough like in canon, and whenever a character starts questioning her talent she just says shocking stuff about killing gods and whatever in a way that looks almost like bragging (despite her saying in the fic that she doesn't do bragging). Taylor would be more likely to prove herself by showing off her skills when they're needed in a fight or somehow showing her skills as a tactician, instead of just listing out her amazing feats and ensuring they sound really shocking so she looks even better, despite not having any proof to offer.
I love this story, really, I do, but Taylor seems to lack caution here, in her actions as well as her words. And she doesn't seem as shocked or surprised by all that happens to her as I'd expect. I'm not saying she should say anything like 'omg this is so weird' but maybe a paragraph or two more about her thoughts on dying, ending up in a Hall filled with dead people, meeting Odin and other notorious figure, arriving back on Earth... There isn't much insight on her thoughts, or any longing for her family and friends, or anything.
I'm really sorry, this message sounds really mean. I really liked reading this but there were things that just bugged me. I tried explaining as well as I could but I'm not sure if I managed to express my frustrations in a comprehensive way, instead of just a long ramble that does not always make sense.
And... She comes from an all-powerful place (Asgard), is really strong and tough and the way she ends up with SHIELD... it feels like they're forcing her into it, doing her a favour by taking her in, like she's being manipulated and taken in against her will because SHIELD is just that much better, which doesn't make sense. Basically, it feels like she's incompetent by revealing all that info on Asgard instead of at least trying to question Coulson in return. She was giving them all that info and even though she had bugs sweeping the place and it wasn't for nothing, wouldn't SHIELD think something's up, with how easily she answers their questions? Basically, SHIELD are getting tons of stuff out of her way too easily (which annoys me, because she wouldn't give it out that easily without a better reason) and they aren't even suspicious about how willing she is to Spill everything?
It feels like she isn't cautious enough like in canon, and whenever a character starts questioning her talent she just says shocking stuff about killing gods and whatever in a way that looks almost like bragging (despite her saying in the fic that she doesn't do bragging). Taylor would be more likely to prove herself by showing off her skills when they're needed in a fight or somehow showing her skills as a tactician, instead of just listing out her amazing feats and ensuring they sound really shocking so she looks even better, despite not having any proof to offer.
I love this story, really, I do, but Taylor seems to lack caution here, in her actions as well as her words. And she doesn't seem as shocked or surprised by all that happens to her as I'd expect. I'm not saying she should say anything like 'omg this is so weird' but maybe a paragraph or two more about her thoughts on dying, ending up in a Hall filled with dead people, meeting Odin and other notorious figure, arriving back on Earth... There isn't much insight on her thoughts, or any longing for her family and friends, or anything.
I'm really sorry, this message sounds really mean. I really liked reading this but there were things that just bugged me. I tried explaining as well as I could but I'm not sure if I managed to express my frustrations in a comprehensive way, instead of just a long ramble that does not always make sense.
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I think the bragging science feels a bit off. Taylor may say something like that if pushed, but it does not feel like she was pushed enough.
Which Brings us to Hill. She is stupid loyal to Fury. If he told her to work with someone she would, however if Fury told her to push Taylor, kind of a good cop bad cop thing,,, well.
Which Brings us to Hill. She is stupid loyal to Fury. If he told her to work with someone she would, however if Fury told her to push Taylor, kind of a good cop bad cop thing,,, well.
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VolantRedX
Official Conscience of Worm Fanfiction!
No but I do expect her not to alienate people who can help her, or antagonize authority because "I know their type". It's the same attitude that caused her a lot of problem in her old life, and she seems to have no awareness of this fact. Plus she comes off as a bit condescending to everyone around her. She's constantly rolling her eyes in at everyone for not reacting the same way she does to things.
Farmerbob1
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I would like to point out that the tagline for the Worm series is 'Doing the wrong things for the right reasons.'
Taylor doesn't seek out a lot of friends. She creates allies by her sheer competence and by delivering victory after victory. The longer she survives, the more people will fall in behind her because she wins. This is a method of leadership which can be both absurdly effective and frightening.
VolantRedX
Official Conscience of Worm Fanfiction!
You're missing my point. A lot of the major issues in Taylor's life were the direct result of her personal hang ups and biases. A lot of problems could have been solved by meeting people half way. Something she personally realized in the end. Here she has a blank slate, a new start, and fresh ground to do some real good in the world, but she's making the same mistakes again, and worse she is constantly looking down on everyone. She's essentially demanding respect without giving any in return. No one is going to want to help her, or take her advice if she's going to treat them like garbage.
In the Worm epilogue Taylor actually has to live with the consequences of her decisions; she has no powers, a stump for an arm, and no support structure aside from her estranged father. This Taylor has not only avoided all of that, she's arguably been rewarded with all sorts of nifty bonuses. Now, with that in mind is it really so surprising that she's already started backsliding? She's in better shape than she's ever been, she's confident, and like you said, she somewhere where she has a completely blank slate.