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The Valkyrior (MCU Thor/Worm)

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Heather Sinclair said:
"There was a guy who invaded my planet. He probably thought he was a god, he had the power to destroy thousands of planets, absorb the energy of what was left, and then move on to his next conquest."

It seemed I had his attention. "Sounds like an interesting fellow. Where is he now?"

"I personally killed him on Tuesday."
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You have pegged Skitter's style of intimidation perfectly. Wildbow himself couldn't do better.
 
The most hilarious (and sad) part about all this is that Khepri didn't even get the kill, nor did she cripple Scion. The most she did was buy time by throwing countless capes into the grinder for Lisa to come up with a plan, and let the other capes implement it. Granted, the time she bought was vital, but people greatly exaggerate what she actually did. It was only after she was unable to control everyone that victory was achieved.

By the way, I thought at the end of canon, Taylor had learned her lesson, that proper communication is far more important than intimidation and violence. Unless she was full of shit, and was trying to pull something , anything, out of her ass to keep Contessa from shooting her. I say this because Taylor reads like she hasn't had her end-of-Worm epiphany.
 
thesevenwielder said:
The most hilarious (and sad) part about all this is that Khepri didn't even get the kill, nor did she cripple Scion. The most she did was buy time by throwing countless capes into the grinder for Lisa to come up with a plan, and let the other capes implement it. Granted, the time she bought was vital, but people greatly exaggerate what she actually did. It was only after she was unable to control everyone that victory was achieved.

By the way, I thought at the end of canon, Taylor had learned her lesson, that proper communication is far more important than intimidation and violence. Unless she was full of shit, and was trying to pull something , anything, out of her ass to keep Contessa from shooting her. I say this because Taylor reads like she hasn't had her end-of-Worm epiphany.
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Or the brain damage make her forget it...
 
I can see why Asgardians don't bother learning runes.

It's like, you go to an electronics store, you check out the latest iphone, do some research on android tablets. You don't really question how they're made. You need transistors, right? You chain them together? And then you program it to do stuff.

The Asgardians import their rune-tech, so they don't really need the expertise to craft their own. They have their own specializations.

[edit] I can also see someone from the 17th century demanding how it all works. He didn't grow up with this stuff. He didn't see it develop. It's essentially magic for him. A small device that contains all the information in the world. I can see him diligently studying processors, learning how to build a computer from raw materials. "It's really useful. It should be common knowledge. Why doesn't anyone bother to learn this stuff?"

Because it's not useful in our daily or professional life. Because we don't need to build our own computers. We can buy them in stores.
 
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TeaSpoon said:
The Asgardians import their rune-tech, so they don't really need the expertise to craft their own. They have their own specializations.
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Which are... what, precisely? Serious question, I honestly don't know the universe that well. But if the dwarves actually make the weapons, and most Asgardians can't empower the weapons, and they don't have much in the way of culture outside the mead-hall... does that mean they really are just a bunch of jocks who've somehow found themselves in charge of the Nine Realms? What does the average Asgardian have going for them except for the bulging muscles?
 
To be totally honest, pretty sure the problem is that Taylor has no idea if she can take any of these Asgard on (pretty sure she can't, unless she uses her pets) and so she's playing up the big-bad-mortal because pretty sure she recognizes that the Asgard respect strength and not much else.

Once she's on Midgard where she has the possibility of the upper hand, I imagine her to be at least a little more communicative.

Guess we'll see. Honestly curious what Brunhilda did that Loki actually apologized and asked Taylor not to tell Brunhilda about any future slights.
 
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thesevenwielder said:
The most hilarious (and sad) part about all this is that Khepri didn't even get the kill, nor did she cripple Scion. The most she did was buy time by throwing countless capes into the grinder for Lisa to come up with a plan, and let the other capes implement it. Granted, the time she bought was vital, but people greatly exaggerate what she actually did. It was only after she was unable to control everyone that victory was achieved.

By the way, I thought at the end of canon, Taylor had learned her lesson, that proper communication is far more important than intimidation and violence. Unless she was full of shit, and was trying to pull something , anything, out of her ass to keep Contessa from shooting her. I say this because Taylor reads like she hasn't had her end-of-Worm epiphany.
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You know, I think I'll just quote myself here.

Uhh.......

Okay, Taylor did her Khepri thing, got everyone working together and beat Scion like a drum for a while to no real effect. While doing this, she got all of the Tinkers together to work on making an interdimensional battering ram to get into Scion's Well, which ultimately didn't work.

After Doormaker ran dry, she worked out that Scion was coming after he finished with the Endbringers and his psychological weakness and then grabbed capes who would help her exploit that weakness, Golem, Genesis, Labyrinth, etc and eventually others caught on.

Scion started to go all explody and GU evacuated everyone except Taylor, who got away anyways via Labyrinth and Scrub. Then she grabbed GU, got Doormaker back, grabbed Oliver, broke Scion, then used Foil and Ballistic to shoot Scion wide open, and then opened a door to the Tinkers who had reconfigured their dimensional battering ram into a gun and shot through the portal Taylor made and into Scion's Well, during which, Taylor was moving the portal and redirecting the beam to make sure that Scion was actually dead and not just grievously wounded.

Considering all of that, I personally think that Taylor is pretty justified in saying "I killed Scion."
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Heather Sinclair said:
The Asgardians empower the weapons. The Dwarves forge them.
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But do they empower them with runes? (In which case there are precisely two important Asgardians and the rest are spear-holders and hobbyists.) Or some other kind of magic that isn't immediately obvious in the films? And does the empowerment take any particular skill, or are Asgardians just natural batteries?
 
apeljohn said:
Which are... what, precisely? Serious question, I honestly don't know the universe that well. But if the dwarves actually make the weapons, and most Asgardians can't empower the weapons, and they don't have much in the way of culture outside the mead-hall... does that mean they really are just a bunch of jocks who've somehow found themselves in charge of the Nine Realms? What does the average Asgardian have going for them except for the bulging muscles?
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They have the biggest army, I guess. They have a warrior culture because they need to keep everyone else in line, keep them from causing trouble or breaking trade agreements or whatever. They rule. Ruling is what they do.

They are naturally blessed with Asgardian strength and endurance. That must go a long way, if they're much stronger than the other races. They have a guy who sees everything. They actually know how to rebuild the bifrost after Asgard was cut off from the other worlds, so I doubt only two people know runes or they have some other, non-rune-based, magic/technology.

I'm sure they have other stuff, like magic apples. And prophetic abilities.

Who knows what would happen if the Dwarfs decided they should rule the nine realms. They might win with their tech alone. Who knows. They don't seem interested in that, though.
 
Heh, i can picture how it went;

Hilda: "What did you do?"
Loki: *arches a eyebrow*
Hilda: "What. Did you do?"
Loki: *grins* "Whatever do you mean fair Hilda?"
Hilda: "The mortal."
Loki: "Ah." *nods* "We had a most interesting conversation."
Hilda: "Well, now shes decided Asguardians are a bunch of arrogant pricks and wants nothing to do with us!"
Loki: *perfect deadpan* "You dont say."
Hilda: *growling* "I wanted her for the Valkyrior!"
Loki: *grins sunnily* "I guess youll have to do without~"
Hilda: *slowly draws a sword* "I think its time we revisited your early lessons in swordsmanship..."

Well, either that or she went crying to Odin that loki ruined her shiny new toy, but i like this version better.
 
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ChaoticSky said:
Heh, i can picture how it went;

Hilda: "What did you do?"
Loki: *arches a eyebrow*
Hilda: "What. Did you do?"
Loki: *grins* "Whatever do you mean fair Hilda?"
Hilda: "The mortal."
Loki: "Ah." *nods* "We had a most interesting conversation."
Hilda: "Well, now shes decided Asguardians are a bunch of arrogant pricks and wants nothing to do with us!"
Loki: *perfect deadpan* "You dont say."
Hilda: *growling* "I wanted her for the Valkyrior"
Loki: *grins sunnily* "I guess youll have to do without."
Hilda: *slowly draws a sword* "I think its time we revisited your early lessons in swordsmanship..."

Well, either that or she went crying to Odin that loki ruined her shiny new toy, but i like this version better.
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Probably more along the lines of this...

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Hilda - Loki.
Loki - Oh it's you.
Hilda - Are you out of your mind?
Loki - Whatever do you mean?
Hilda - Antagonizing a warrior who has Death Spiders for pets is not something I would call the actions of a sane person!
Loki - She has them under complete control. She even fed it this afternoon. Perfectly tame. Most extraordinary.
Hilda - And what happens when you push her too far and she unleashes them? They are fast, faster than you can believe. Just a single scratch and you would be dead before you even realize you were touched!
Loki - Then I shant be touching them. *Smug Grin*
Hilda - Then how many people will die in your stead? A hundred? A thousand?
 
VolantRedX said:
Outright forgot those characters.
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There's also Heimdall, and though Hogun is clean-shaven in the first movie, he's grown a pretty decent beard by the time of Thor 2.




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So...yeah, pretty much the only named, male character residing in Asgard who isn't seen with facial hair during the movies is Loki...which really should have clued everyone in to the fact that he wasn't actually an Asgardian...the beardless freak...
 
Heather Sinclair said:
"This is what has father stalking the halls with Gungnir held tight in his grasp. I had hopes the Svartálfar hadn't been exterminated millennia ago, and were roaming the palace in search of the…." He stopped and threw a knowing smile at me. "Is that what has him bending his own laws?"

"I have no idea what you're talking about." I really didn't.

Even with Allspeak, sometimes a word doesn't get translated properly, likely because it's the proper name of something that the listener is unfamiliar with. Svartálfar was one of those words.

"The Conjunction; the event approaches in a few years. Has the Allfather misplaced the Aether?" Loki snapped his book closed and stood quickly. "That's it; isn't it? My fool of a grandfather hid it on Midgard?"
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does anyone get what this is referencing or what the svartalfar is?
 
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