The Shyish Student (An Amethyst Apprentice in Hogwarts) [Warhammer Fantasy/Harry Potter]

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Salztpyre's prudent and investigative actions are a far cry from the "burn them all at let Sigmar sort them out" stereotype of a Witch Hunter.
Wait a moment, I thought that was more a meme, or an urban legend, that the witch hunters spread knowingly so that their fearsome reputation made chaos cultists more wary to face them in combat, and that witch hunters, or at least the ones who are officially sanctioned by the empire, are rather level-headed and reasonable, as long as the situation isn't too dire, like half the town being actually corrupted, then they will surely go batshit crazy and raze everything to the ground.

And although there are witch hunters that are indeed off their rocker, and who will do some eccentric and potentially dangerous things, like suspecting the village leper from being a cultist of Nurgle hoping to poison the well; or that a corrupt mayor might be an undead thrall, searching for a new victim for their vampire master, or that they have gotten so traumatized after spending so many years witnessing horrifying things, that their minds simply snap, they are actually the minority here. This would be easily fixed if they were given a pension for retirement, psychological assistance, and maybe days off to cool down. You know, to explore their hobbies beyond a life of chasing monsters. I'm sure Sigmar would have wanted his witch hunters to have something to live for more than his name, he disliked adulation, after all.

Unlike the Order of the Silver Hammer, which is comprised by what could be considered true witch hunters, as they are the only ones whose operations are condoned by the state, making them a sort of secret police, or intelligence agency in tasked with the duty of maintaining the safety of the empire, and who have received proper training, the witch hunters that indulge in such destructive behavior, are charlatans and ne'er-do-wells to pretend to be Witch Hunters, accuse affluent citizens of heresy, and make off with their wealth before real law enforcement realises that they executed relatively innocent taxpayers, often rousing the local populace into a torch-wielding mob with a fiery speech to mask their less-than honest intentions. Or even be willing to accept bribes, as the correct amount of gold has saved more than one Magister from the pyre, which has made deem these Witch Hunters as less than incorruptible, and as such aren't nearly as trustworthy as their more zealous counterparts.

And even the witch hunters that aren't hateful peasants or wandering impersonators, but who have had actual training as a Witch Hunter, but now act outside of the law for personal reasons, because they believe the Church is too lenient, or just plain paranoia brought upon by seeing Chaos everywhere, are even more dangerous than your typical scammer, because due to surviving tragedies like beastmen raids, or depredations of chaos cultists , they embark upon a quest of revenge, against the Forces of Disorder without the support of the nobility or the Church, which means that they have no legal status within the Empire, and although they can be overlooked so long as they don't do too much harm, the instance they make an assassination attempt on a supposed Vampire noble they would l be clapped in irons and hauled off to the execution block (unless they are proven right), and given that impersonating a Witch Hunter is a serious offence they might just be executed on the spot even then.


Victor did what he was supposed to do as a Witch Hunter and figure out if she was a servant of the Dark Gods or not. Once he was certain she was not he treated her with the weariness that all people in the Empire treat sanctioned Wizards with. Victor could probably give a clear and reasoned defense of his actions with the secular laws of Reikland and the strictures of the Cult of Sigmar. Plus the Hammer Man has shown that he approves of how Salztpyre has acted by protecting him with his power and after everything he has seen the Witch Hunters faith has only grown stronger.
Yeah, but Victor is member of the Templar Witch Hunters, or more accurately The Holy Order Of The Templars Of Sigmar, one of a few that truly enjoy the sponsorship of the Church of Sigmar, , which means thar beholden to none save the Grand Theogonist and the Emperor.

Considering that this Order serves as both a militant arm of the Church of Sigmar and a law enforcement branch of the Empire, balancing those roles so that neither the Church or the Empire can misuse the Order for their own purpose, this means that they are forced to abide to certain laws, like being morally obligated to conduct a proper investigation to determine whether an individual or a community shows signs of corruption or dabble in the dark arts, as well as handing every person with potential to do magic, but that hasn't shown evidence of falling to chaos, to the colleges of magic so that they receive proper training.

Of course, when it comes to applying that particular rule, most witch hunters are rather lax in that regard, as they seem to believe that it's better to be safe than sorry. Nevertheless, any witch hunter with a minimum of professionalism, and who is truly committed to the safety of the empire as well as observance of Magnus the Pious ' laws (and better they do so, as Magnus was one of the very few that was directly blessed by Sigmar, so his words must be absolutely harkened), then they will ensure that someone who is suspected from witchcraft will receive a just an fair trial, and that a proper investigation will follow, to collect reliable evidence, or that a person who has displayed magic, but hasn't used it to harm fellow human beings, then will be safely put under the colleges custody.

This means that what Victor does, is something that every competent witch hunter is expected to do.
The reason I press on this particular topic, is because it would be interesting to highlight the differences between the witch hunters from warhammer fantasy,and by that I mean the ones that aren't mercenaries impersonating as witch hunters hired by nobles and local gentry to act as their representative on their estates, enacting justice in the name of their patron, for which they are given special charters that give them the right to search, detain, imprison and execute any witches and troublemakers rounded up and sentenced appropriately within their patron's jurisdiction, which fortunately it does mean that their powers are limited by the willingness of the local gentry to extend their mandate into their territory ; and the ones from earth, which are even worse, and comparable to the scammers that besmirch the good name of honest witch hunters.

I am convinced that any witch hunter that has had any sort of experience in the field, will never, ever resort to cheap tactics like burning an entire village, or hanging a woman accused of witchcraft without previous evidence to back up such accusations, simply because, after witnessing so many horrors and injustices, and being aware of what true evil really looks like, if they really have the empire's best interests in mind, then they will have as subtle and competent as possible, because they won't want to spread any more misery than the absolute necessary, and only to those who seek to wreak mayhem in the empire.

And that's precisely why I think the witch hunters from warhammer fantasy would be incensed at what passed for witch trials on earth, like the whole mess in Salem, considering they have had to face true worshippers of the dark gods, and the fact that all the victims of that kangaroo court were defenseless, whereas the witch hunters in warhammer fantasy have been under constant risk of having their faces eaten by the kind of foes they encounter on a daily basis.

Besides, unlike on earth, with hunters in warhammer fantasy actually know what they are doing, armed with the knowledge that they possess of their quarry, and the right tools for the job. For instance, it is common knowledge that a stake through the heart will see off most Vampires, but a Witch Hunter will know that stakes made of Ash, Hawthorn or Rosewood are particularly deadly. They can rely on the accumulated learning of generations of Templars, including such esoteric tomes as Peace For The Damned, the Liber Chaotica, the Liber Malefic, and Adelman and Swydiger's Brazier and Furnace Maintenance, although even learned Witch Hunters are not above paying attention to peasant superstitions, as some times, golden nuggets of truth may be dig out that will help them to carry out their mission.

Basically, Ichabod Crane's mother was a woman who displayed signs of magic, and used it to amuse her son. The kind of magic she showed was of the mildest kind, nothing more than a parlor trick or a child's play for a full-trained magister.

View: https://youtu.be/RefmKdwvvYI
Unfortunately, her husband, who was a puritan of the worst kind (I know he was a puritan because the church lacked effigies of Christ and the saints, which is a very protestant thing to do, apart from the fact he was British) and who wouldn't be able to tell dark magic from white magic apart even if his life was at the stake, didn't take it well.

In fact, it went so wrong that what happened was truly horrific

View: https://youtu.be/a-rvLs5q18Y
WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Now, I'm almost completely sure that, even in a setting as foreboding as warhammer fantasy, what Ichabod's father did would be considered barbaric and immoral, and even Luthor Huss, who isn't precisely fond of magic, would have been disgusted, if only simply because the father didn't have any condemning evidence that his wife was practicing dark magic , only innocent, wholesome magic, apart from the fact that, even for imperials, the iron lady is a little too far.

I 'm rather sure that, even the most unhinged and mouth frothing witch hunter would have been hard-pressed to sincerely assure that this woman deserved her fate.
Also, to those with more experience in warhammer fantasy than me, I would like to ask what a templar witch hunter from the other of the silver hammer would have done, should he be put in Ichabod's father place, if only for my peace of mind.
I mean, I know that Victor Salztpyre would have concluded that the woman isn't a witch, as she didn't show any signs of Dhar taint, and that the symbols in the hearth aren't chaotic, then he would have proceeded to shoot Ichabod's father in the head, and then he would have taken Ichabod's mother to the colleges. Yes, it would suck that Ichabod wouldn't have been able to see his mother in a long time, maybe ever, but that's better than the alternative.

Great, now I want another omake in which Victor Salztpyre saves the day and bring justice upon the wicked that pose as self-righteous. Unfortunately, I don't know him well enough to portray him accurately. Any tips from those who have played vermintide?

Actually, can people from the colleges visit their relatives? Or are they forbidden to do so? If I recall correctly, in the quest it was said that the amethyst wizards cut all ties with their former life.
 
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I have now gone back and bone'd all of the story posts.
Really? All the posts in this thread?

Damn, talk about commitment. 👍


When did imagine dragons make their debut, by the way?
I mean, I think it's going to be a while before they even exist at all, I think.
Like, by the time they make themselves known, how old would zagreus be? Twenty six or something?
Anyway, I think Zagreus, being a priest, is more into things like Gregorian chants and psalms in Latin.
Like "Dies Irae" from Mozart, you know?

View: https://youtu.be/RKJur8wpfYM
Isn't reikspiel actually a weird mix of German and Latin, by the way?
On the other hand, to be honest, it would be nice if Zagreus took a liking to some modern songs.
Like, which genre would zagreus be into?
 
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On the other hand, to be honest, it would be nice if Zagreus took a liking to some modern songs.
Like, which genre would zagreus be into?


Joke: dark academia.

More seriously: I could see him enjoying the film music, once he gets over the shock of orchestra pulling out all the stops. Perhaps the more lyrical pop or ballad, in the vein of "Where The Wild Roses Grow" by Cave & Minogue, or classics of musical theatre, like "Les Miserables" or "Phantom of the Opera". Jazz might interest him, too, if the strange (to him) sound doesn't turn him off. Pity that modern technology doesn't work at Hogwarts, or we could get an interlude with Zag catching someone with walkman/discman and getting a taste of Earth musical culture.

Moderately related: what do you think Zag would think about Les Miserables? On one hand, Valjean is basically someone like him, minus magic, on the other hand the revolutionary subplot would be met with bewilderment.
 
I didn't say they should all look broken down but lacking even a single scar is eyebrow raising in terms of being very hard to believe. Korden is good looking sure but he still has a few stress wrinkles, it's NOT an easy job. Supermodels aren't compatible with being witch hunters.

If you have enough faith in Sigmar he can heal even a ravaged body so it's possible for the most effective and Pious Witch Hunters to actually be relatively healthy looking. Still Supermodels most of them will not be I agree.
 
Oh, I certainly agree, and it definitely worked out for the better given the Vermintide that happened shortly afterward. But my point was, Salztpyre's prudent and investigative actions are a far cry from the "burn them all at let Sigmar sort them out" stereotype of a Witch Hunter.
Unlike the Order of the Silver Hammer, which is comprised by what could be considered true witch hunters, as they are the only ones whose operations are condoned by the state
As I have said before in this very thread;
Okay, we need to clear something up here.
All Templars of Sigmar are Witch Hunters, but most Witch Hunters are not Templars.
When most people think "Warhammer Fantasy Witch Hunter" what they are actually thinking of is "Templar of Sigmar".
But the truth of the matter?

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"I will burn every inhabitant of the Empire if I have to!" —Witch Hunter General Bernhardt van Hal[3a] Witch hunters are grim, cold individuals who have dedicated their life to the eradication of corruption wherever it may be. Most witch hunters are the Imperial state-sanctioned Templars of the...
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"These poor, simple folk - too fearful or too dull-witted to see the vulgarity and evil in their own midst. They wail and complain about my... uncompromising methods, but who among you can say that hanging half a village is a high price to pay for the assurance that corruption has been exposed...
 
or classics of musical theatre, like "Les Miserables" or "Phantom of the Opera".
Oh my god, Zagreus would absolutely have loved the phantom of the opera, specially the part of the masquerade ball, since Zagreus would be acquainted with it, as masked parties are a common and popular social events among the upper class and the social elite of the empire. Of course, being a peasant, Zagreus would have never gone to one, but they are well-known enough that, at least, he would have heard of them.

View: https://youtu.be/8Bn4BAlp8NQ
Personally, this one is, along with "The Mirror/Angel of Music", and "The Phantom of the Opera" proper introduction song, my favorite ones of the movie.

You know, the novel which the movie is based on would also be a good reading material for Zagreus, as it would force him to ponder about the circumstances that mutants must bear in the empire due to their deformities, as the phantom is, to all intents and purposes, a mutant.
Despite how the recent movies have depicted the phantom, Eric didn't look like a handsome guy whose face has been partially marred by burn marks, forcing him to wear a half-mast that gives him a mysterious and alluring aura, which enhances his attractiveness due to showing his good-looking features, whereas at the same time, enhancing the mystery surrounding him by leaving a part of his face open to speculation.
No, the true Eric from the books suffered from a birth defect that made him hideous, and that's falling short of the true horror that his visage was. He was such an abomination to behold to, that he was forced to wear a full covering mask that concealed his whole face, lest he risked to make everyone in the vicinity to flee in terror.

A closer approximation to his book description would be the version of him played by Lon Chaney in the 1925 silent version of the phantom of the opera, which was, for all intents and purposes, something like this.

In the Leroux novel, Erik is described as corpse-like with no nose; sunken eyes and cheeks; yellow, parchment-like skin; and only a few wisps of ink-black hair covering his head. He is often described as "a walking skeleton", and Christine graphically describes his cold hands.

However, despite the fact that he is a walking freakshow that was abandoned by his mother, and keep in mind that she loved him enough to not selling him to a circus or killing him at birth, his other most noteworthy trait is that he was a musical genius. His voice was everything the rest of him wasn't. Only Christine was able to match him, and with his guidance, he groomed her to her fullest potential. He was also a master of illusionism and quite knowledgeable in architecture. After all, he was the one who designed the secret passages of the opera house to pass unheard and unseen.

Despite the fact that he became a murderer, he was a very tragic figure, a misunderstood genius who, had the circumstances surrounding his birth been different, he would have been publicly acclaimed as one of the greatest opera singers of his time, and women would have practically thrown themselves at him.

But instead, he became a Boogeyman, a subject of scorn of fear, of whispered rumors and of frightened side glances. Yes, he killed people, and he hold the object of his affections under imprisonment to force her to love him, but considering Erik's face, I would have given him a bit of leeway regarding his criminal activities, as he wasn't exactly in a position to court a lady as a normal person. After all, Erik wasn't exactly normal, in any sense of the word. He was both a paragon and a monster.
 
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Meanwhile, I'm thinking of the original story,
In the Leroux novel, Erik is described as corpse-like with no nose; sunken eyes and cheeks; yellow, parchment-like skin; and only a few wisps of ink-black hair covering his head. He is often described as "a walking skeleton", and Christine graphically describes his cold hands.
Don't forget that in the earliest rendition of the story, he turned his makeshift home underneath the opera house into a quasi-ossuary - surrounding himself with the bones of the dead as a pallid, desperate substitute for a human presence.
 
To be fair, no adaptation of the Phantom of the Opera has been faithful to the novel. They all omit the character of the Persian, either not using him, changing him around so as to be a functionally different character, or merging his character with aspects of others.

In the Novel, he's a major character, and is Erik's only remaining friend.

Hell, the entire epilogue of the Novel is told from his perspective.
 
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Don't forget that in the earliest rendition of the story, he turned his makeshift home underneath the opera house into a quasi-ossuary - surrounding himself with the bones of the dead as a pallid, desperate substitute for a human presence.
Yeah, it's been a while since I last read it, but I remember to enjoy it wholeheartedly.
There's also the fact that he had a coffin ready for him, in which he slept.
Yeah, Erik had some issues.
At this point, I am not sure wether Zagreus would pity him, seen some parallels between Erik and how lonely the life of an amethyst wizard can be sometimes, or just be creeped out by him, because, in Zagreus' eyes, Erik went too far.
Or just think Erik had good taste in interior decorating.

Do you think the clothes Erik wore in the books, which were basically the mandatory dressing code of that time period, would suit Zagreus? Maybe along with a skull mask. It would be very mysterious and phantasmagorical.
Certainly, it would be better than the robes that wizards wear.
It's not that I don't like wizarding robes in general, it's just that I find the wizards dress in the harry potter books unappealing.
Much better, in my opinion, it's the way spellcasters get dressed in the new movie of "dungeons and dragons: honor among thieves", very diverse and not exclusive restricted to robes, although they are an option available, of course.

View: https://youtu.be/HGvv-Hhft3U
By the way, have any of you guys already watched it? What do you think Zagreus would think of it? The world of faerun, I mean.

Moderately related: what do you think Zag would think about Les Miserables? On one hand, Valjean is basically someone like him, minus magic, on the other hand the revolutionary subplot would be met with bewilderment.
I'll be honest, I have never had the chance to read "Les Miserables" book , of Victor Hugo (who was also the author of "The hunchback of Notre Dame", go figure), although I watched the movie, and studied the plot as a subject, so I have a good grasp of what the book it's about. However, I don't know the novel well enough to actually give a piece of my mind about how would Zagreus react, although I suspect he would think the students were naive when they expected that a half-baked revolt by a few dozens of people would be capable of succeeding, or at least of being able to encourage the rest of the population to a full-fledged rebellion, as they lacked the popular support needed to overthrow the monarchy (that's what I remember from the movie, though, I'm sure what happened in the book was a little more complicated than that) .

The social injustices that are highlighted in the story are nothing new to Zagreus, after all, he has witnessed them first-hand. However, it's possible that even Zagreus would think that Jean Valjean's punishment of five years of forced labor for stealing bread was pretty much too extreme. And Javert would seem to Zagreus a bit of an idiot. As zealous as a witch hunter, but too obsessed with upholding the letter of the law to realize that wasting time and resources chasing a petty thief when there are worse evildoers out there is a fruitless endeavor. I mean, part of Jean's storyline revolved around the fact that he had had to flee for years because a police officer won't leave him alone because he stole a fucking slice of bread decades ago.

I don't think Zagreus would think they are fine or inevitable , but judging by Zagreus' personality and upbringing, it's obvious that Zagreus is a monarchist at heart, so the revolution wouldn't have appealed to him at all. Keep in mind that, by the time "Les Miserables" take place, it's been 43 years after the French Revolution, and what happened in the books was an uprising known as the June Rebellion, an anti-monarchist uprising which took place in Paris triggered by significant economic problems, harvest failures, food shortages, and increases in the cost of living, creating discontent throughout the classes. But the outbreak of cholera, which ended with a death toll in the poor neighbourhoods of Paris, arousing suspicion of the government poisoning wells. And the death of former Army commander Jean Lamarque, who was a critic of the monarchy and champion of the poor, along with the bitterness that the general disdain of the monarchy toward the people, and the ever-widening wealth gap, generated among the general populace, wss the last straw, which motivated thousands of protestors to gather in the streets of Paris. Of course, this didn't amount to anything, given the fact that the rebellion was put down in just two days, as the 3,000 revolutionaries were unable to rally adequate levels of popular support against the 40,000 French Army soldiers and 20,000 National Guardsmen sent to quell their revolt.
However, the aftermath of the conflict wasn't nearly as bloody as portrayed in the movie, with practically all the dissidents executed. I fact, casualties on both sides amounted to about 150 dead and 500 wounded, half of whom were soldiers.

Also, not everyone was killed on the spot. There were trials, and only seven of the 82 trials led to other death sentences, all commuted to terms of imprisonment, which is rather mild for the aftermath of a revolt, if you ask me.

And speaking of democracies, keep in mind that the idea of a Republic isn't completely foreign in warhammer fantasy. If Zagreus has done his homework he will know that in Tiles, where Morr's cult is prominent, along with his wife's Verena and Daughters' Myrmidia and Shallya, then he will know that the city-state of Remas is an example of a Republic, although not exactly one as understood in modern times
In the Republic of Remas all citizens are equal - anyone who's too tall has his head chopped off, and anyone who's too short gets stretched.

Each of Remas' most powerful merchant families is represented on the Council of Fifty, an assembly which debates issues and drafts legislation. Three members of the council are randomly selected each year to preside over it as a triumvirate. The Republic of Remas is one of the least corrupt and longest lived republics.

Three members of the council are chosen randomly each year to preside over it as a triumvirate. The policy of the republic for that year becomes whatever the special interests of the triumvirs, or their families, may be. So if one of the triumvirs happens to be most concerned with merchant ventures, the republic will probably finance a trading venture in that year. If one of the triumvirs is a patron of the arts, the republic can expect to gain a new public edifice decorated by the finest artists in Tilea. If one or more of the triumvirs happens to be a noteworthy mercenary general then the neighbouring states will become rather alarmed and start renovating their defences.

In theory, any citizen could sit on that council, though in practice only the richest of the merchant princes ever do. But even so, they have to be very careful about just how much power they exhibit. Insurrection is probably the biggest thing the inhabitants of this city fear.
 
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By the way, have any of you guys already watched it? What do think Zagreus would think of it? The world of faerun, I mean.
Probably be amazed/confused with the idea of multiple races living side-by-side without (much) issue. The differences in magic would probably intrigue him, especially the different ways to gain magic.

Also I think he'd be horrified with the concept of Tielfings.
 
Also I think he'd be horrified with the concept of Tielfings.
He would be horrified at the concept of Devils.
Demons at least would be vaguely familiar, but Devils would be an OCP.
And then the truth that Demons are independent beings that don't answer to a higher authority unless forced to, have individual personalities, and can even not be pure Evil would sneak up on him and give him a culture-shock suckerpunch.
 
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Demons at least would be vaguely familiar, but Devils would be an OCP.
I'm not so sure about that. Plenty of WHF Daemons, especially those of Slaanesh and Tzeentch, are all about tempting and tricking mortals into bad deals in exchange for wealth, power and whatnot to get the first hooks of corruption in. That's how a lot of the more subtle cults get started. If anything, DnD Devils actually seem closer to WHF Daemons than DnD Demons. I think he'd initially be more concerned that the scholars of Faerun have delved deep enough to those affairs to even know about the distinction than by the existence of either.
 
He would be horrified at the concept of Devils.
Demons at least would be vaguely familiar, but Devils would be an OCP.
And then the truth that Demons are independent beings that don't answer to a higher authority unless forced to, have individual personalities, and can even not be pure Evil would sneak up on him and give him a culture-shock suckerpunch.

From what you just described they are more like spirits and unaligned warp entities which are treated with caution in the Empire. Because as the best example of them in Athel Loren have shown they care little for the lives of Humans most of the time. Zagreus would consider them untrustworthy at best I think.
 
Plenty of WHF Daemons, especially those of Slaanesh and Tzeentch, are all about tempting and tricking mortals into bad deals in exchange for wealth, power and whatnot to get the first hooks of corruption in.
They don't have rules that they will not break though, they have suggestions at best instead of laws.
And yes, Devils will weasel their way into twisting their laws as far as they can, but they won't knowingly ignore them the way that a Daemon would.
 
Probably be amazed/confused with the idea of multiple races living side-by-side without (much) issue.
Nah, Zagreus is already used to something like that, after all, in the empire many races live alongside each other in relative peace. No, what would make Zagreus' head spin would be the fact that, in many cases, those races can interbreed with each other with almost no complications.
Like, an elf and a human can have a child together, which, as far as I know, isn't possible in warhammer fantasy.
*Zagreus after looking at a norscan barbarian and a halfling married to each other* : "You know, had I not met Hagrid, and found out about his half giant heritage, this would have freaked me out more"
But what really would have pushed Zagreus over the edge is that many of those races are what back home, would be called beastmen. Only, they aren't mindless and bloodthirsty monsters hellbent on the fall of civilization and the utter erradication of mankind. In fact, many of them are quite sophisticated in their own way, like the aarakocra, who are very peaceful . Why, they even wear clothes!!!

*Zagreus' inner speech*
"Okay Zagreus, keep calm. Steady Breaths. In and out. You can do this."
"This is not the first time you face something that completely clashes with the beliefs and the worldview you have practically been raised all your life. If you could find a common ground with hedge wizards that did many things the colleges of magic would have found controversial at best, and without being yourself branded as an heretic, which was a surprise, honestly, then the situation you are currently in shouldn't be a big deal".
"This is not different. Remember what Hermione told you about keeping an open mind and be respectful towards those who are different from you. Of course, when she said that, she wasn't exactly envisioning the monsters that plagued your nightmares as a child, but hey, that's just semantics, isn't it?"
"Oh god, I can't do this, the moment it crosses that door, I'm going to end up disemboweled by their claws..... No!! Don't think like that!! This is not the drakwald, and what is awaiting you in that room isn't the beastmen that would feast on your blood and entrails!!"
"This is a new world, and those are people, just very different, eerily similar to beastmen people, but that's just a technicality.""
"Remember that you are an ambassador appointed by the emperor himself, and that he expects to carry your Duty as expected in a dutiful servant of the empire. So you are going to cross that door, greet the representative of these people, and not make a fuss of it."
*Jarnathan approaches flapping his wings*
"Greetings, Zagreus Nyx, envoy of the Empire of Man in the Old World, it's a pleasure to welcome you to the fair land of Neverwinter. I trust this will be the beginning of an enriching friendship between our respective cultures, which will motivate a fruitful exchange of ideals and philosophies "
Zagreus:"OHMYGODISTOUCHINGME!!PURPLESUNOFXEREUSRIGHTNOW!!"
You know, it would be worthy to witness the reaction a non-human representative of one of the kingdoms of faerun would cause in Altdorf's court, in case both worlds ever met. Specially if that representative isn't only non-human, but also their race leaned on more on the animalistic side, like the tabaxi, rather than the anthropomorphic one, like an elf or dwarf.

The differences in magic would probably intrigue him, especially the different ways to gain magic.
Not to mention that magic in Faerun is, unlike in the empire, an everyday occurrence that practically everyone can learn, and, most of the time, isn't nearly as dangerous as in warhammer fantasy, although there are certain disciplines that entail certain risks, like demon summoning or necromancy, although that's more because of the inherent nature of those specific branches of magic than an asshole god of magic messing with the probabilities that make a spell going wrong more likely. Instead of Murphy's law, it should be called Tzeentch's law.

You know, in hindsight, Faerun is what Zagreus wished his own world was, a world at peace where the immediate threat of the chaos gods has been pushed back.
You dismiss the idea. Underestimating the reach of the ruinous powers is a sure path to damnation. Besides, even if the unthinkable happened - even if Morrsleib vanished, the rifts were sealed, and each of the Four dissolved into nothing
"I want all the dead to rest in peace. I wish to serve Morr's will fully and without reservation. I want the Empire to persevere, led by virtuous leaders. I want an end to famine. I want every person to live in a world free from Dhar and daemonic influence…"
Of course, in Faerun nor the demonic threat nor the dangers of dark magic are completely gone, but they are certainly more manageable that the absolute mess that the chaos gates are and the looming threat of Nagash represents to everything that lives.

However, Zagreus would find that there are other things that would be as difficult to handle as beastmen attacks, namely the strenuous job that establishing amicable relationship with races that resemble the empire's hated enemies involves , and the Sisyphean task that convincing the citizens in the empire of restraining themselves not to go batshit crazy against peaceful citizens that just happen to have animal traits, as if it was a pogrom in the continent of the Witcher. Not to mention the fact that magic in Faerun, being safer and more reliable, would cause a surplus of wizards, with some of them using their magic for less than honest purposes, as the threat of Tzeentch has been erradicated, which would force the grey order and witch hunters to work extra hours.

No clue who the two unfamiliar people could be. But that's Malfoy. The teacher's stand getting set on fire brings me much joy.
Lucius being a potential suspect is neat as well. If Zagreus ends up finding out he was a former Death Eater, I could see him deciding he's the prime suspect, and I could actually see Harry and co agreeing if they knew? I don't think the latter know Snape was a Death Eater as well.
Are we sure that person is actually Lucius?
I mean, last we saw him, he was attending Alecto Carrow's funeral, which was the moment the grey wizard managed to sneak there to gather information about who was the one in charge among the former death eaters, and Amycus basically spilled the beans, marking Lucius as the next target.

For what we know, the grey wizard could have killed Lucius by now and taken his appearance in order to blend in while she looks for Zagreus Nyx
 
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Are we sure that person is actually Lucius?
I mean, last we saw him, he was attending Alecto Carrow's funeral, which was the moment the grey wizard managed to sneak there to gather information about who was the one in charge among the former death eaters, and Amycus basically spouted the beans, marking Lucius as the next target.

For what we know, the grey wizard could have killed Lucius by now and taken his appearance in order to blend in while she looks for Zagreus Nyx
That is a clever deduction! We know that the Grey Wizard was also pointed towards Snape. I don't think that she would do it though. Impersonation is best for short periods. The longer it goes on, the more difficult it is to keep up the deception. She should be able to figure out that Snape and Lucius know each other enough that it would be difficult to maintain the deception.

Though if she is there she might be close enough to figure out which one is cursing Harry vs protecting him.
 
I think what would really bother him might be how many gods demonstrably vie for souls of the dead in faerun even with people from the same region?
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Death domain deities

Like from what I can tell there have been three main gods of death ruling successively in the feuge plain already and many competitors for the title if I understand correctly.
In Sigmars Holy Empire it's pretty much just morrs garden (and maybe Gazul?) as an option and like the elven gods don't seek human souls AFAIK and the Nehekaran gods are largely both defunct and unknown.

Like actually I feel like i've asked before and forgotten but what is Zags opinion on Gazul, would he consider a human following dwarven burial rituals to be evil or something? There are a number of human groups who have adopted the dwarven gods into their lives afterall.
Is there any general information known on interactions between the cults of Morr and Gazul?
 
I think what would really bother him might be how many gods demonstrably vie for souls of the dead in faerun even with people from the same region?
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Death domain deities

Like from what I can tell there have been three main gods of death ruling successively in the feuge plain already and many competitors for the title if I understand correctly.
In Sigmars Holy Empire it's pretty much just morrs garden (and maybe Gazul?) as an option and like the elven gods don't seek human souls AFAIK and the Nehekaran gods are largely both defunct and unknown.

Like actually I feel like i've asked before and forgotten but what is Zags opinion on Gazul, would he consider a human following dwarven burial rituals to be evil or something? There are a number of human groups who have adopted the dwarven gods into their lives afterall.
Is there any general information known on interactions between the cults of Morr and Gazul?

The two groups don't interact much outside of a few areas but the similarities between their beliefs means their is rarely much friction. They work together against the undead when they can and have to so the ones that go hunting undead have a respect for each other. The Vampires have after all fucked with dwarf shit after all.
 
Also I think he'd be horrified with the concept of Tielfings.
if I am being completely honest here, I wasn't aware of the existence of tieflings in dungeons and dragons, and therefore I didn't know what a tiefling was, so I assumed that Doric, the druid that appeared in the movie, was some kind of satyr, or that her horns were the consequences of being at one with nature or through a connection to a powerful deity or nature spirit , through which they gained their power of the wild shape, an ability that allows druids to shapeshift into any beast , much like amber wizards, and as an unintended side effect, picking some animal traits, in this case horns.

And speaking of shapeshifting magic, one thing that I am completely sure that would blow both the minds of people in warhammer fantasy, as well as the characters in Harry Potter, but harry potter specifically more, would be something that appeared in the movie, and that is something exclusively autochthonian of dungeons and dragons.
A notoriously aggressive and ferocious magical beast that looked like a cross between an owl and a bear. More specifically a snowy owl in this case, the very same species as Hedwig, if Hedwig was on steroids, that is. and was also incredibly aggressive and obstinate

Keep in mind that a a fully grown
specimen stands 8 feet high and weighs between 1,300 and 1,500 pounds , with claws as long as 2 inches, and that are gifted with more cunning than an owl, and are also famous for their ferocity and foul temper, to the point that they would go so far as to attack almost anything that moved on sight and without any provocation.

So imagine how much havoc could wreak a Hedwig that basically turned into the owl version of the incredible hulk, but retaining her personality and mental acuity, if there was a potion or spell from the lore of beasts in warhammer fantasy , that allowed for that effect.

View: https://youtu.be/Lm2HdUk9y4Y
The power the Dark Lord knows not is a hulking killing machine that looks incredibly puffy, but whose fluffy feathers hide more cunning than an owl inside its brain, and with an insatiable appetite, which is greater than that of a giant owl and a bear combined.


The von Carstein lineage's fall from grace left their lands blighted by the Necromantic equivalent of nuclear fallout: many of the wells and springs turned foul, much of the vegetation either died off or became distinctly unwholesome, the soil went sour, and wild game became scarce. As a result, the average Sylvanian farming community has to work much harder to sustain itself than most other Old World peasantry - and do so while also fending off random zombies, skeletons, and other threats spawned from the tainted soil of their homeland.
Although iirc a lot of that was already the case, what with the absurd amount of warpstone about.
Does that mean Vampires would feel at home in places like Chernobyl, though?
And by the way, since the Chernobyl disaster occurred on April 25 and 26, 1986, which is only a few years before the events of the philosopher's stone, then the tragedy of the explosion o the fourth reactor in the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant, which took place in Ukraine, must still be fresh in memory.

I mention this because I wonder if a comparison between uranium and warpstone could be made, since the effects of radiation and Dhar are pretty similar in certain aspects, although the effects of Dhar are certainly more esoteric and surrealistic than malformations caused by mundane radiation, which are themselves pretty nauseating.
And I also wonder what would uranium look like to Zagreus' withchight, and wether the Skaven would try to use uranium as a replacement for warpstone.

On the other hand, it would be pretty catastrophic if a vampire coven decided to make Chernobyl their new lair.
 
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So imagine how much havoc could wreak a Hedwig that basically turned into the owl version of the incredible hulk, but retaining her personality and mental acuity, if there was a potion or spell from the lore of beasts in warhammer fantasy , that allowed for that effect.
That? Would be terrifying.

The closest spell would probably be Transformation of Kadon, but I'm fairly sure that changes the caster, and can't be done to others.

Actually... Polymorph (from DnD) might work, but Hedwig would have to be level 3:
This spell transforms a creature with at least 1 hit point that you can see within range into a new form. An unwilling creature must make a Wisdom saving throw to avoid the effect. A shapechanger automatically succeeds on this saving throw.

The transformation lasts for the duration, or until the target drops to 0 hit points or dies. The new form can be any beast whose challenge rating is equal to or less than the target's (or the target's level, if it doesn't have a challenge rating). The target's game statistics, including mental ability scores, are replaced by the statistics of the chosen beast. It retains its alignment and personality.

The target assumes the hit points of its new form. When it reverts to its normal form, the creature returns to the number of hit points it had before it transformed. If it reverts as a result of dropping to 0 hit points, any excess damage carries over to its normal form. As long as the excess damage doesn't reduce the creature's normal form to 0 hit points, it isn't knocked unconscious.

The creature is limited in the actions it can perform by the nature of its new form, and it can't speak, cast spells, or take any other action that requires hands or speech.

The target's gear melds into the new form. The creature can't activate, use, wield, or otherwise benefit from any of its equipment.

Does that mean Vampires would feel at home in places like Chernobyl, though?
And by the way, since the Chernobyl disaster occurred on April 25 and 26, 1986, which is only a few years before the events of the philosopher's stone, then the tragedy of the explosion o the fourth reactor in the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant, which took place in Ukraine, must still be fresh in memory.
Not sure nuclear radiation is the same thing as Dhar radiation.

Won't know until we check though!
 
They tried, but anyone who thinks Harry or Ron were stubborn clearly weren't paying attention to miss Killed-or-worse-Expelled.

When Hermione decides on a course of action, right or wrong, she won't budge.
Uhmmm, that is a weakness that chaos can certainly exploit. Prides goes before the fall, after all, and contrary to what the depictions of daemons in art, with pincers and extra horns, may suggest, chaos is actually incredibly subtle and insidious in its corruption.

What Hermione needs is a lesson in humility. Because she has always feared to lose above anything else, and thus she is willing to do anything to avoid that, she needs to be shown that, just because you are wrong in something, it doesn't mean that earth will suddenly explode because of your mistake.

Like, if it was me, and I had had to suffer a whole year of Hermione knitting caps to free house elves, along with the previous year with her S.P.E.W. crusade, you can bet that, the moment I find out that Dobby has had to clean the Gryffindor tower by himself, because the rest of the house elves refuse to do so, as they feel insulted because of Hermione's actions, seeing them as a sign of disrespect to their hard work and their status as caretakers of Hogwarts and its maintenance, I would have organized a reunion at the end of the school term, for anyone who was interested, in order to commend Hermione for her selfless efforts and the tireless passion she put in her goal to free the oppressed house elves. Then, I would have said that I have invited all the house elves that picked the caps Hermione personally knitted on her own, as a symbol of their freedom.

And then I would have made Dobby appear and tell the truth in front of everyone.

Would this be a dick move? Certainly.
Am I a scumbag? Absolutely.

But in hindsight, it would be very therapeutic for Hermione, in order to help her evaluate some of the skewed preconceptions that color her worldview.

You know, for her own good so that chaos doesn't lure her with promises of justice and social revolution that it doesn't plan to fulfill.

You don't believe that Hermione is a self-insert? Because as @SinisterPorpoise posted above, Rowling absolutely intended Hermione as an insert for herself and Ron for her ex that, at the time, she was mad at but still kinda had feelings for, hence why Hermione spends the first several books figuratively bashing Ron over the head before suddenly they're bonded lovers at the end.
God, I hope that isn't true, otherwise , the way their relationship developed through the books would be likely to suggest some unfortunate implications about how their marital life went on, and the kind of communication they had, which, if it was anything like the dynamic between Ron and Hermione, wasn't that great, and that's me being euphemistic.

Also, it's just me? Or Hermione really has squirrel teeth in this drawing? She honestly reminds me a lot of the squirrel that appears in the emperor's new groove.
If you ask me, although I can understand why they are friends, I didn't see them as a couple at all, considering that they were, more often than not, at each other's throats. And taking into account that I am a first-hand witness of how unhealthy relationships with too much friction between both parties can be, I didn't find it appealing at all. And now that I know what motivated Rowling to write Hermione and Ron that way, even less.

God, harry is a saint for putting up with Ron and Hermione shenanigans for such a long time, although, to be fair, he snapped quite a few times himself.
Personally, I would have lost it a long time ago, and done something that I would regret later (for the legal consequences, I mean, not for the moral compunctions I may or may not have)

Harry: "Come on harry, you can do it. Remember that they are your friends. Merlin, give me patience."
Me: "Oh, Khorne, give me the strength and the bloodlust I need to take the skulls of these assholes so that I offer them to you, as a sacrifice in the name or your glory, and also erase from my soul the ability to feel compassion so that I have no remorse when I carry your will."
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!
 
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