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The Root of All Evil: A Warhammer Fantasy

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The problem is something I can't talk about but it takes up most my day ATM sorting it out to people's satisfaction. I'm in calls and meetings most days now with barely the time to plug out some of the writing. But it clears up come Friday
 
Tyrell said:
Yeah but people's plans haven't been done yet so it's the next turn but I'm overdue on plans
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Tyrell said:
The problem is something I can't talk about but it takes up most my day ATM sorting it out to people's satisfaction. I'm in calls and meetings most days now with barely the time to plug out some of the writing. But it clears up come Friday
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Shrug. I'm not in any huge rush, I can put a plan out pretty quickly and plan to do my next one in 20 min while buzzed so as to better roleplay the beastmen.

Thank you for clearing up the confusion.
 
Sinsystems said:
We shall see, while I'm not certain that i'd win I am confident in my survival at the very least.
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That seems unfounded.

Vlad: strength 6, 4+ ward, 4+ chance to heal a wound for every unsaved wound he deals and a chance to come back from being killed on a 2+, Mortarch of Shadow special rule which gives everything a -1 To Hit (both shooting and in melee) against him and a -1 to the Leadership of all models nearby him, Cause Terror, as a Vampire, he can restore Wounds lost if he deals an Unsaved Wound against an enemy.....

Compared to an Elector Count, which has basically entirely a leadership boost to the troops you won't have with you....
 
Theravis said:
That seems unfounded.

Vlad: strength 6, 4+ ward, 4+ chance to heal a wound for every unsaved wound he deals and a chance to come back from being killed on a 2+, Mortarch of Shadow special rule which gives everything a -1 To Hit (both shooting and in melee) against him and a -1 to the Leadership of all models nearby him, Cause Terror, as a Vampire, he can restore Wounds lost if he deals an Unsaved Wound against an enemy.....

Compared to an Elector Count, which has basically entirely a leadership boost to the troops you won't have with you....
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Remember this is an honor duel without magic or any magical items, to use them would be cheating.
 
Theravis said:
Overconfidently challenge an elder vampire to single combat, then get your face eaten off? I think you've got it down. :p
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You face him down- he's slow, dumb, and blind. If not for the Runefang this prey would not even have the most miniscule chance. And then he barks an order, and a fucking Steamtank pops out from a cospe of trees. In your last moment, you yell out ANDERSSEENNN!

The Elector-Count of Stirland and architect of the defeat of Vlad von Carstien suddenly has a desperate need for Halfling pipe leaf.
 
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Sinsystems said:
No magical items, period. This is a battle of skill not one of who has the fanciest jewelry, so everything needs to go. The only tools both combatants will be allowed will be the identical weapons supplied to them.
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That removes his resurrection on a +2, and lowers his strength by one.....
 
Sinsystems said:
Remember this is an honor duel without magic or any magical items, to use them would be cheating.
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Yeah, the thing is, that hurts you more than him, because at the end of the day, an Elector Count's claim to fame in combat is that they wield a Runefang, one of the magical swords forged by the dwarfish master Runesmith Alaric the Mad, which cleave through armour, flesh and bone as if they were smoke.

Meanwhile, a Vampire Lord's claim to fame is... they're a Vampire Lord! They can wrestle with trolls and throw punches like ballista bolts, fight with centuries of experience, move faster than a striking snake, and their very flesh is roughly as tough as hardwood timbers. Vlad in particular is a walking horror made flesh, his simple presence fit to make the hearts of brave men quail in fear and open themselves to his beguiling gaze.
 
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Sinsystems said:
Exactly. Also on a side note can you remind me how various types of attack work?

Mostly just the basics of what you use to calculate melee and ranged attacks.
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I'd need the army books to know for sure. Does somebody have the full statblocks for Vlad Von Carstein and a General of the Empire?
 
Imrix said:
Yeah, the thing is, that hurts you more than him, because at the end of the day, an Elector Count's claim to fame in combat is that they wield a Runefang, one of the magical swords forged by the dwarfish master Runesmith Alaric the Mad, which can wound anything and cleave through any armour like smoke.

Meanwhile, a Vampire Lord's claim to fame is... they're a Vampire Lord. They can wrestle with trolls and throw punches like ballista bolts, fight with centuries of experience, move faster than a striking snake, and their very flesh is roughly as tough as hardwood timbers. Vlad in particular is a walking horror made flesh, his very appearance fit to make the hearts of brave men quail in fear and open themselves to his beguiling gaze.
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In the immortal words of Paul Charlton, "Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. It's impolite."
 
Even in fluff terms Vlad has have centuries to wander around playing Highlander with the other "survivors" of Nehekhara before he even clawed his way up to the throne of Sylvania. And Vlad von Carstein is not one to repeat his mistakes. Every time his haxx ring brings him back that's one more hole in his defenses he patched up.
Just like, you better hope that Sigmar chooses now to meat-puppet your body and bitchslap the enemies of Man.
 
bookwyrm said:
Even in fluff terms Vlad has have centuries to wander around playing Highlander with the other "survivors" of Nehekhara before he even clawed his way up to the throne of Sylvania. And Vlad von Carstein is not one to repeat his mistakes. Every time his haxx ring brings him back that's one more hole in his defenses he patched up.
Just like, you better hope that Sigmar chooses now to meat-puppet your body and bitchslap the enemies of Man.
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I believe that would be cheating under the "no magic, no magic weapons" rule.
 
Theravis said:
I believe that would be cheating under the "no magic, no magic weapons" rule.
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Are you blaspheming Our Lord Sigmar by suggest that his holy presence is some matter of witchcraft or wizardry?! Whoever is the worthiest for His blessings is ipso facto the victor of any earthly contest, for is not the Man-God perfect virtue and perfect skill manifested into one being?
 
bookwyrm said:
Are you blaspheming Our Lord Sigmar by suggest that his holy presence is some matter of witchcraft or wizardry?! Whoever is the worthiest for His blessings is ipso facto the victor of any earthly contest, for is not the Man-God perfect virtue and perfect skill manifested into one being?
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....So if I win, does that mean I'm blessed of Sigmar?
 
Theravis said:
I'd need the army books to know for sure. Does somebody have the full statblocks for Vlad Von Carstein and a General of the Empire?
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I don't know how much @Tyrell is using the tabletop mechanics, but as a baseline of comparison to work from...

Vlad Von Carstein: Weapon Skill 7, Strength 5, Toughness 5, Wounds 3, Initiative 7, Attacks 5, Leadership 10.
He causes Terror, inflicts -1 Leadership on nearby opponents, and can force them to take a Leadership test at a further -3 or he can re-roll to-wound rolls against them.

General of the Empire: Weapon Skill 5, Strength 4, Toughness 4, Wounds 3, Initiative 5, Attacks 3, Leadership 9.
He has no special rules. That's what magic items are for :V

So, here's how this would shake out on the tabletop:

Vlad and the General charge into each other. The General immediately rolls a Terror test at -1; if he can roll under an effective Leadership of 8 on 2d6, he can steel himself and actually fight. Once combat starts, he rolls a second test; if he fails this, his Weapon Skills is reduced to a measly 1, as he is paralyzed by fear. He is likely to pass both of these, so we shan't account for them.

The General then rolls a third test against his Leadership, this time at at an effective Leadership of 5, to avoid falling prey to Vlad's beguiling gaze. He is likely to fail this test.

Vlad then attacks first, because his Initiative is higher. He rolls 5d6 for his Attacks, hitting on 3+ because his Weapon Skills is higher. Any hits are then rolled again, needing 3+ to cause a Wound. If the General is Beguiled, Vlad can re-roll any failed to-wound rolls. Depending on what armour the general is wearing, his armour may save him, allowing him to roll one die per successful Wound caused by Vlad, but Vlad has such brute strength that, if the General is wearing full plate armour and has a shield, he still needs to roll 5's or 6's for a successful armour save.

Assuming the general survives that, he then rolls 3d6 for his attacks, hitting on 4+, and wounding on 5+.

All in all? Vlad has decent odds to kill his opponent in the first round. If they get lucky, they may get to attack back. If they get even more lucky, they might deal him a single wound. Then Vlad finishes them off.
 
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Theravis said:
So.... why? I was completely content to leave you alone and fight Chaos.
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Because Sylvania keeps spitting out monsters, undead, necromancers and Vampires into my lands. I need to do a very thorough purge of the place which I know you'd prevent so I need to deal with you first, plus without you there the other vampires will be at each other's throats trying to fill the power vacuum.
 
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