Oh yeah, if you guys wanted some inspiration. Tenten's Ults in the various fighting games are actually pretty great:


Anyway, I'm closing the Interlude vote. Kakashi won pretty handily. However, the vote for Character Build is still somewhat close. So I'll keep that open until I finish writing the Interlude.
 
But thrown weapons have a base range of about 30, while bows have 200. I don't think Kelenas necessarily wants to invest in the Archery skill or Charmtree, just carry a bow around in case we need the extra range.
Exceptional bonus: All 3 points into range puts you at ~50 yards for a thrown knife.
150 yards if you aim.

The clan with X-ray eyes and long-range vision, the Hyuuga, eschew the use of bows.
They are traditional, but not stupid; if neither they nor the Uchiha ever used them, there's pretty clear indication that IC bows don't hold up.
Swords at least retain a regular niche, but we only see one person use a bow in canon, and that was as a mutation/natural ability.

Exalted bullshit allows us a way around some of that, but it involves investing effort in something that just isn't a focus of ninja combat.
And tbh, the Glorious Solar Railgun is not conducive to fun gameplay in the Narutoverse.
 
- Get some armor
Chain shirt, breastplate, lamellar, reinforced buff jacket, stuff like that. Our Dodge DV isn't great to start with, so might just as well not bother and get some additional durability instead. Though the Mobility penalty is a bit problematic, so we might go with something light like chain shirt or breastplate, particularly if we can get something above average in quality.
There is always the armor of the Clan Wars Era like what Hashirama, Tobimura, and Madara wore.
 
They are traditional, but not stupid; if neither they nor the Uchiha ever used them, there's pretty clear indication that IC bows don't hold up.
Swords at least retain a regular niche, but we only see one person use a bow in canon, and that was as a mutation/natural ability.

Exalted bullshit allows us a way around some of that, but it involves investing effort in something that just isn't a focus of ninja combat.
And tbh, the Glorious Solar Railgun is not conducive to fun gameplay in the Narutoverse.
I think they don't use bows because (Enemy) Stealth (or ambushes) + Taking up both hands = Getting ganked easily

Which is, coincidentally, something we won't have to worry about at all.
 
Using the Archery equivalent costs the same thing.
But thrown weapons have a base range of about 30, while bows have 200. I don't think Kelenas necessarily wants to invest in the Archery skill or Charmtree, just carry a bow around in case we need the extra range.
What @lendary said, pretty much. It might be worth to invest into the Archery Ability and Charmtree, but that would be in the FAR, FAR future. There's tons of other stuff in a number of different Abilities that'd take priority; Athletics, War, Awareness, Investigation, Survival, Resistance... lots of stuff.
But carrying a bow and arrows in a storage seal doesn't really cost us anything, and would give us a bunch of options. Given our Dexterity our dicepool would be nothing to sneeze at, so we could use it to harass some lower tier enemies from a distance, or use the arrows to carry stuff like exploding tags.

I quite like the idea of sealing some of our clones into one-use storage seals and delivering them via our arrows, too.

Exceptional bonus: All 3 points into range puts you at ~50 yards for a thrown knife.
150 yards if you aim.
Exceptional Equipment
Exceptional weapons gain three +1s to divide among any
of the characteristics that fi ne weapons can improve. They can
also raise Rate, but the same characteristic cannot be raised more
than once.
Exceptional armor gains two +1 bonuses to divide
among: soak (adds 1L/1B), mobility (reduces mobility penalty
by one) or fatigue (reduces fatigue value by one). Exceptional
tools and gear add one die to dice pools when used. Items of
exceptional equipment cost their normal value plus one more
dot of Resources.
At best, you'd get a knife with a range of 25, a javelin with a range of 40, or a sling with a range of 110.
Also, bows can be Exceptional as well, and their range increases by 50 if a point is invested there.
 
Que Team Gai having collective flashbacks to the Bandit Camp Incident.
Well, he did say we could use them in a life and death situation. Which means we should have some (read: a lot, because explosions) on hand whenever we can.

My headcanon is now that Tenten is the lost (very, very, very lost) daughter of Mr. Torque.
EXPLOSIONS?!?!?!?!?!?!
I am now reminded of a crack fanfic where Naruto and Tenten bond together over explosions. Just explosions. And solve everything with them.
 
I think they don't use bows because (Enemy) Stealth (or ambushes) + Taking up both hands = Getting ganked easily
See: Hyuga clan.
Telescopic vision from beyond enemy range + almost 360 visual coverage.
And they still don't use it, preferring to specialize in hand to hand.

Probably the closest thing we'll ever get to an in-setting statement about utility.
Even the samurai don't use them any longer, and they still use full armor.
But carrying a bow and arrows in a storage seal doesn't really cost us anything, and would give us a bunch of options. Given our Dexterity our dicepool would be nothing to sneeze at, so we could use it to harass some lower tier enemies from a distance, or use the arrows to carry stuff like exploding tags.
This is the Narutoverse, not Creation.
Low tier enemies don't generally come in numbers.
Even genin reflexes are pretty damn good; see Naruto et al picking up on Orochimaru's use of a Wind technique in the Forest.
You're not going to be plucking them off with arrows barring the use of Perfect charms.

My basic thinking is that we are a noob Solar in a land of Dragonbloods of different experience levels. I assume they are competent, and that we are not introducing sudden innovations noone has heard of before.
*snip quote*At best, you'd get a knife with a range of 25, a javelin with a range of 40, or a sling with a range of 110.Also, bows can be Exceptional as well, and their range increases by 50 if a point is invested there.
The portion you bolded? That's referring to Rate actually.
You can raise any other characteristic multiple times; that was the entire strategy behind the full-defense Glorious Solar Saber, where people would stack all the exceptional/perfect points into Defense and get a +10 Defense sword for parrying attacks.

And like I mentioned earlier, Exalted bow range already is longer than most Naruto combat ranges. We'd have no reason to put points into extending it's range.
 
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See: Hyuga clan.
Telescopic vision + almost 360 vision.
And they still don't use it, preferring to specialize in hand to hand.

Probably the closest thing we'll ever get to an in-setting statement.
I think it's the twang + travel time that offsets it for most (and there's probably Charms for those/seals for the former). Remember the spider dude from the Sasuke Retrieval arc that fought Neji.

He pulls the argument a bit back into my favor, he was dangerous with that thing, but presumably only pulled it out with more than 2 arms.
 
I think it's the twang + travel time that offsets it for most (and there's probably Charms for those/seals for the former). Remember the spider dude from the Sasuke Retrieval arc that fought Neji.
Neji was relying on chakra sensing, not sound, to alert him.
And the spider dude still had to actively guide his arrows via a long wire for them to even have any chance of effectiveness.

He pulls the argument a bit back into my favor, he was dangerous with that thing, but presumably only pulled it out with more than 2 arms.
Kidomaru needed:
Custom Orochimaru modifications.
An unsupported victim.
Spider summons to prevent Neji from moving out of that fixed clearing.

All of that for a member of Orochimaru's bodyguard to fight a genin.
And on top of that, he still lost.
 
If we are speaking Summoning Contracts?

I am sorry, but Monkeys. Like, seriously. I think tool-using animals will work with Tenten exceptionally well.
 
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This is the Narutoverse, not Creation.
Low tier enemies don't generally come in numbers.
Even genin reflexes are pretty damn good; you're not going to be plucking them off with arrows barring the use of Perfect charms.

My basic thinking is that we are a noob Solar in a land of Dragonbloods of different experience levels.
Land of heroic mortals is probably more accurate. However, the point remains; we can use a bow to either deploy effects or harass opponents from a range far beyond what most techniques or thrown weapon would allow, thus forcing enemies to act at minimal risk or cost to ourselves.
You can NEVER have too many options.
The portion you bolded? That's referring to Rate actually.
No, it isn't. The language pretty clearly refers to any of the weapons' statistics, rather than just rate.
Other aspects of the writing support this, such as "three +1s" (or "two +1s" for armor) to "divide between" statistics. Rather than something like "three points to assign".
You can raise any other characteristic multiple times; that was the entire strategy behind the full-defense Glorious Solar Saber, where people would stack all the exceptional/perfect points into Defense and get a +10 Defense sword for parrying attacks.
Glorious Solar Saber, along with similar Charms/Spells such as Wood Dragon Claw, are a completely different thing from Fine/Exceptional equipment.
 
Land of heroic mortals is probably more accurate. However, the point remains; we can use a bow to either deploy effects or harass opponents from a range far beyond what most techniques or thrown weapon would allow, thus forcing enemies to act at minimal risk or cost to ourselves.
You can NEVER have too many options.
My point remains:
Despite the existence of outright magic weapons, clans with magic eyeballs, and more?
We see bows all of twice: once with Kidomaru, and the other with Sasuke's Susanoo.
That's suggestive, in a world where we see four characters(Temari, Madara, Obito and Tenten) use fans in combat.

And frankly, grossly outranging your opposition is BAD for gameplay.
No, it isn't. The language pretty clearly refers to any of the weapons' statistics, rather than just rate.Other aspects of the writing support this, such as "three +1s" (or "two +1s" for armor) to "divide between" statistics. Rather than something like "three points to assign".
No it doesn't.
Specifically consider what it says for Perfect in the core book
Perfect Equipment
Perfect weapons provide two +1 bonuses and one +2 bonus to spend on the characteristics available for exceptional weapons but cannot improve Rate by +2. Perfect armor has a mobility penalty and fatigue value each -1 normal, as well as receiving two +1 bonuses to split among the characteristics available for exceptional armor. Perfect gear and tools add two dice when used. Items of perfect equipment cost their normal value plus two extra dots of Resources.
Glorious Solar Saber, along with similar Charms/Spells such as Wood Dragon Claw, are a completely different thing from Fine/Exceptional equipment.
Don't agree.
That is why GSS was errata'd to simply sport artifact stats.
 
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My point remains:
Despite the existence of outright magic weapons, clans with magic eyeballs, and more?
We see bows all of twice: once with Kidomaru, and the other with Sasuke's Susanoo.
That's suggestive, in a world where we see four characters(Temari, Madara, Obito and Tenten) use fans in combat.

And frankly, grossly outranging your opposition is BAD for gameplay.
If anything Kidomaru proves that bows are perfectly viable as a weapon. The fact that we don't see many of them is irrelevant. We don't see many people using staves, sickles, kusarigamas, or the like, either, yet all of them would be perfectly viable weapons as well.

No it doesn't.
Specifically consider what it says for Perfect in the core book
It says absolutely nothing that contradicts my assertion. In fact, if anything it supports it, by specifically discussing three separate bonuses - +1, +1, +2 - that need to be assigned separately, as opposed to a pool of points that can be distributed at will.
You can't assign all of the bonuses from superior equipment to the same characteristic; simple as that.

And even if you could, it wouldn't matter, because by the same logic you could just assign all of the bonuses to a bow's range and STILL end up vastly out ranging any Thrown weapon, so we'd be right back to where we started. Bows have a better range than thrown weapons; news at 11.
*shrug* Your problem, then. Doesn't make you any less wrong, though.
 
And even if you could, it wouldn't matter, because by the same logic you could just assign all of the bonuses to a bow's range and STILL end up vastly out ranging any Thrown weapon, so we'd be right back to where we started. Bows have a better range than thrown weapons; news at 11.
To quote myself:
And like I mentioned earlier, Exalted bow range already is longer than most Naruto combat ranges. We'd have no reason to put points into extending it's range.
Calling Neji a mere genin is underselling him a bit.
Also, spiderman was not at 100% in that battle, as he had to fight some jounin earlier.
Neither was Neji, who'd spent time getting chakra-drained by Spiderman's teammate.
I mean, Neji is a prodigy, but Kidomaru was one of Oro's Elite.
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that someone capaple of fighting off both ANBU and Konoha jounin should have curbstomped Neji.
Especially after calling a summon.
 
To quote myself:


Neither was Neji, who'd spent time getting chakra-drained by Spiderman's teammate.
I mean, Neji is a prodigy, but Kidomaru was one of Oro's Elite.
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that someone capaple of fighting off both ANBU and Konoha jounin should have curbstomped Neji.
Especially after calling a summon.

Sometimes people push past the limit, find the right trick, and win against impossible odds. Welcome to Shounen, is this your first visit sir? Complimentary boxing glove if it is. :V

Kidomaru was well into the Special Jonin (that is to say, between regular Jonin and Chunin) level.[1] Neji was basically a mid-Chunin prodigy, and managed to punch above his weight.

[1] Note how they had to use curse seals to beat the Jonin...as a team.
 
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[x] Plan Fast but less Pretty Tenten

Hopefully melee cover's our defensive needs for the time being, and there's literally no occasion Tenten won't have a knife on her person.
 
Interlude 1 - Kakashi
Kakashi was bored. Not an all-together unheard of occurrence, though considering right now he was cut off from his normal recourse for boredom it made it all the tougher. A shame really, he'd just picked up a new one a few days ago, and he was in the middle of a good part right now. But he had promised Sasuke he would give him information on the winners of the preliminaries, and more importantly Gai had entrusted him to spectate the last of his students while he rushed Rock Lee to the hospital. He'd of accepted regardless, but he couldn't remember a time he'd seen Gai this distraught over something. Not that he could really blame him, with the condition the Sand Jinchūriki left his student in. He'd hoped to at least give him some good news regarding the last member of his team.

A shame she proved not to be up to the task. One of Asuma's genin said the fight was over before it began, and he couldn't bring himself to disagree. She was by all indications a skilled weapons user...but against a good wind user she'd need to be a lot more than just a skilled weapons user. And as Gai's student slammed down on the Sand genin's fan, her back bending visibly on impact he winced slightly. Not at the injury of course, but at the thought he may have to tell Gai another one of his students ended up crippled. Then she was spent sprawling through the field of discarded weaponry and he mentally added "severe lacerations" to that assessment.

And yes, a quick glance confirmed what he had suspected, a broken spine. The way they stayed still despite the girl's attempts to rise was something of a dead giveaway. Still, he felt one of his eyebrows creep up as yet another of his best friend's pupils refused to give up...or pass out...despite grievous injuries. It looked like the girl was intent on fighting despite her injuries, he had to give her points for guts at least. Unfortunately guts don't matter much if it's impossible for you to hit your opponent. And then he glanced at her opponent, and he lifted his back off the wall, because the sand genin was practically radiating confidence. But to his eyes he saw something else entirely, she's too close. She thought she had the fight in the bag, after all her opponent couldn't hit her even with her trump card, and now she couldn't even stand. And to be fair to her, she was almost certainly right, the fight was over...unless.

Then he saw it, the girl's arms tensed, coiling underneath her for a split second before she flipped up. The two kunai she was keeping hidden underneath her body flashing out towards her opponent. Even from here he could see her opponent lean back in surprise. The sand genin was good, but she was too close, not enough time to block with a Jutsu. The second kunai missed, but the first carved a line across her cheek. Then her retaliatory wind-blast slammed Gai's student into the far wall, her injuries making it impossible for her to even attempt to dodge. And with that he leaned back against the wall.

He sighed, Well, at least I can tell Gai his student managed to land a hit on her opponent. And that she never gave up. but after a hit like that...it may not matter if she wants to give up or not. After a certain point, your body decides that for you. He could hear the genin around him begin excitedly chatting as the dust cloud from the girl's impact, but he just kept his sight trained where the girl should be, waiting for the dust to clear.

NO.

His stiffened as he felt the hairs on the back of his neck stand-up, and he saw some of the genin stiffen as well. They felt it too, he realized. He didn't know what it was, but something just shifted. He felt his left eye narrow as the dust began to shift and whirl, reverberating with the sounds of shifting masonry. Light tore at the edges of the dust, pushing it out of the way as she emerged. Resplendent as hundreds of golden blades and scrolls shifted around her, burning in their intensity like a second star, Gai's student strode out of the dust cloud. With a cruel smirk on her face and a kunai idly playing through her fingers. He felt something twist inside him as, an urge to shrink back in the face of her radia-ah, he blinked, so that's it then? a fear genjutsu. Interesting.

Down in the arena her opponent looked frozen there, an ashen expression on her face as she tried to steady her shock and gather her courage. Idly, Kakashi pushed up his headband, revealing his sharingan to the air, and if anything his eyes widened further. Chakra was pouring from her body, suffusing the air around her in that display. He could see how it formed the structures floating around, but he couldn't copy it. Hm, a new bloodline limit? But he dismissed that as well, it was something else, it all felt off. Not just the strucutre of the Jutsu, whatever it was, but the chakra itself. It felt too...refined, too perfect. He could see more chakra, still flowing through her that felt normal, but the contrast was disconcerting.

"K-Kakashi-Sensei?" He was interrupted by Sakura glancing back at him, "W-what's she doing?"

He gave an slight shrug, "It's chakra, a lot of it. That aura. It's a fear genjutsu, makes it hard to look at her."

"Oh." He turned back from his student. And as for Naruto...

"Hell yeah, Bun-girl! Kick her ass! You can do it!"

He was being himself.

Kakashi turned back to the fight just as Gai's student sent two kunai flying at her opponent, both moving so fast they left an after image. Wisps of that strange chakra still clung to them as they sliced through the air, carving a faint trail in their wake. One of them was swatted away by a gust of wind, her opponent finally beginning to overcome the genjutsu, but she was too slow and the other hit her square in the shoulder. But he wasn't focusing on that, his attention were on the hand signs the girls hands were currently flying through. Drawing the normal chakra still inside out, where it mixed with the flowing gold that surrounded and she moved.

A weapon clattered to the ground as it bore the hit meant for her, as she appeared in a puff of smoke behind her opponent, body wreathed in golden light as she flung two more knives at the sand genin, before substituting herself again, and again and again.

But despite her newfound prowess, she still couldn't reliably hit her opponent, and it really was a testament to her opponents skill that she was still keeping up.

Still, Kakashi certainly wasn't bored now.

Then Gai's student stopped, skidding to a halt by a large fuma shuriken lying on the ground. With a single movement it was in her hand, and with another it was flying towards her opponent. Too high and to the right his brain helpfully supplied, just as his breath hitched in his throat. He saw the thrower take one step as their hands blurred, their opponent leaning slightly to dodge the blade...just like they always did. A cloud of smoke, and an unruly mop of blonde hair flashes in his vision.

Flying Thunder God Second Step

He hears cheers as the girl's kunai collides with her opponent's fan in a cloud of sparks, then she twists her body, disarming herself and her opponent. Her body flows, narrowly spinning out of the way the high pressure wave that would have pulped her if had hit. And then her fist connects with the sand genin's face, and then it's all over. The blonde girl slumps backwards, falling onto her discarded fan. But all he can do is stare at the winner of the match. Well, that certainly got a lot more exciting, he says sardonically, for a genin to use the substitution jutsu like that. It shouldn't be possible, especially with how she performed the first half of the match.

Idly, he notes the girl helping her opponent walk to the sidelines and the waiting medics as he pulls down his headband. Then less idly, he notes her collapsing just after she handed off the sand girl. Then he sighed as he noted the medical-nin looking awkwardly between her and the sole stretcher they had remaining. A quick statement to Naruto and Sakura, and then an even quicker Shunshin and he was standing besides the medical-nins. "I can carry her, her jounin-sensei left her in my care for her match."

The two medics glance at each other, and then shrug. He picks up the young girl, eyes immediately going to the blazing image of her a sun currently burning over her headband. Yes, it looks like certainly got more exciting. Then he stopped for a second, mind crashing to a halt as he remembered something.

Wait, how the hell am I going to explain this to Gai?

Oh yes, and [X] Plan: Fast but Less Pretty Tenten won
 
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