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The Life of a Half-Saiyan (Thread1) (DBZ)

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But we didn't fend off the Green and Broly at the same time though. It's more like Gossard separating himself from the hivemind with him simply retaining the power he draw from said hivemind upon transforming.
 
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[X] How to train your Ki properly
No. of Votes: 26
Captain Spatula
arrepio
Artemis1992
Avalon
Bugaboo
ChildishChimera
Crow
Derek58
Firelurker
Geordiefan
Graves
Higure
Icefyre
Knight-Radiant
Kshail
Leek01
Morphic Tide
Neo-Chan
Nix's Warden
One Classy Hydra
Rmnimoc
Swarm
Taka
Varano
veekie
Wheel of time

[X] Learn how to shape Ki properly for use in attacks
No. of Votes: 25
Icefyre
Artemis1992
Avalon
Bugaboo
ChildishChimera
Crow
Derek58
Firelurker
Geordiefan
Graves
HeavyBane
irontony9065
Knight-Radiant
Kshail
Leek01
Morphic Tide
Neo-Chan
Nix's Warden
One Classy Hydra
Rmnimoc
Swarm
Taka
Varano
veekie
Wheel of time

[X] Learn Martial Arts
No. of Votes: 17
Captain Spatula
arrepio
Artemis1992
Bugaboo
ChildishChimera
Crow
Derek58
Icefyre
Kshail
Leek01
Neo-Chan
Nix's Warden
One Classy Hydra
Rmnimoc
Swarm
Taka
Varano

-[X] The enduring and tough Turtle style created by Master Roshi and improved upon by Master Krillin
No. of Votes: 13
Captain Spatula
arrepio
Artemis1992
Bugaboo
Crow
Derek58
Leek01
Neo-Chan
Nix's Warden
One Classy Hydra
Rmnimoc
Taka
Varano

--[X] Be taught by Goku
No. of Votes: 10
Derek58
Artemis1992
Bugaboo
Crow
Leek01
Nix's Warden
One Classy Hydra
Rmnimoc
Taka
Varano

[X] Conquer and assimilate Green, you will take what is yours from you and use it in your Base form
No. of Votes: 8
Graves
Firelurker
Geordiefan
Higure
Knight-Radiant
Morphic Tide
veekie
Wheel of time

-[X] The ancient styles of the Saiyan race
No. of Votes: 7
Graves
Firelurker
Geordiefan
Higure
Knight-Radiant
veekie
Wheel of time

-[X] The personal style of the Demon King Piccolo
No. of Votes: 4
Captain Spatula
ChildishChimera
Icefyre
Kshail

[X] Meditate
No. of Votes: 3
arrepio
Avalon
Red Bovine

-[X] On improving your Willpower
No. of Votes: 3
arrepio
Avalon
Red Bovine

[X] Learn a couple of magic tricks
No. of Votes: 2
irontony9065
HeavyBane

[X] The labs are never locked in CapsuleCorp, and the Employees always too terrified to disobey you
No. of Votes: 2
irontony9065
HeavyBane

-[X] Gohan says you can't make a Battery for Power cause it's Strange. But you can make Electricity Batteries. Why not Power??
No. of Votes: 2
irontony9065
HeavyBane

-[X] The dangerous life-draining school of the Crane, reformed by Master Tien and Master Chaotzu
No. of Votes: 1
Swarm

-[X] The history of the Saiyan race.
No. of Votes: 1
Higure

-[X] The Energy Shield you used the first time you assumed the form
No. of Votes: 1
Morphic Tide

Total No. of Voters: 29

Looks like the current leading votes are the two ki options, and learning Turtle School from Goku.
 
Icefyre said:
But we didn't fend off the Green and Broly at the same time though. It's more like Gossard separating himself from the hivemind with him simply retaining the power he draw from said hivemind upon transforming.
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But we did.
lordchaos99 said:
Green bursts into the blueness of the sky as youweYOU banish yourself from your own mind. You feel shock from the link, now established. And feel yourself, and within yourself, Him. Another Legend you had been forcing in and out of the transformation. Months of it, snatches of freedom. You feel yourselfhim reach for your mind but you ignore it. Youhe areis much weaker in comparison to you, especially now.
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Not only did we separate ourselves from it, we blocked it when it attempted to regain entry.
 
Trondason said:
I'm pretty sure anyone who knows magic could.
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Well, that's like saying "anyone who know Science can *insert technobabble here*"
But semi-accurate. Enough magical aptitude, skill and power and you can learn it

ChildishChimera said:
Nameckian magic exclusive
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Good thing your magical tutor is a Namekian

irontony9065 said:
Has there actually been a case of anyone but namekians using namekian magic??
I'm Curious.
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We don't really see much magic that isn't Earth based. Just Namek, Kai techniques and Babidi

Mannan said:
So is Gottex going to be trained to become the next planetary guardian?

Does anyone know what happens if their is not Guardian over a world?
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According to Goku's ideas of a Guardian yes. Though if she draws attention she could be made an official Guardian

They have a lower defense than guarded planets and on average lower Ki use and Spiritualism. Otherwise they are just planets being ignored by the Quadrants Kais and the Heavenly Beauracracy

Trondason said:
The Great Ape transformation is a biological thing though, while magic is a skill.
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All transformations are biological, with the exception of the quasi-transformative Kaioken invented by a God

irontony9065 said:
Is it really? When we know Brown Ki is a part of the Transformation? If anything I'd nearly call it an instinctive transformation. That the rays from that particular phase of the moon are remembered so strongly by Brown Ki that it instinctivly forces the Saiyan or DemiSaiyan to transform. Just an idea really.
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The tail turns Ki into Brown Ki, you don't possess it outside of the state. Which is why Ive never mentioned it in an update

Icefyre said:
Didn't the QM said something about Broly being forced to transform into whatever we transform? Personally I've been avoiding Super Saiyan (Yellow/Gold) not because I don't want to, but rather because I don't want Broly to turn Super Saiyan, break his mind control device, kill Paragus, and then come to Earth to eliminate his LEGENDARY Rival.
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Only if the form is Legendary or a derivative of Legendary like LSS. Every other form is fine.
 
Alright then, if we manage to complete all of our training this turn I have no objection to getting us False Super Saiyan / Super Saiyan next turn. Ideally we master both before Freeza. Not combining them with each other or Green mind you, that's a dumb thing to do.
 
Wouldn't hurt to max our willpower with meditation. We already did it with instinct, so we should finish what we started with that. It can't hurt transformations after all.
 
Yeah if we still get 3 actions next turn and we manage to finish all of our training this turn, my idea is probably something like:
1. Try to obtain False Super Saiyan / Super Saiyan
2. Meditation: Willpower
3. Magic / Science
 
Those three seem like a good idea to do next turn. However if Ki training doesn't max out we might want to cap it first before anything else.
 
lordchaos99 said:
Go(ssar)d you are one awesome specimen, you think to yourself as you look at ninety nine past versions of yourself all held in place by an optical illusion and a minor little Ki trick.
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lordchaos99 said:
You are Son Goku, and you are back! Also probably have some kind of transformation of some kind, you are rather more focused on the beautiful lady whose house you live in and the food she makes the cooks create.
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Huh so I just reread the previous update and our name can apparently be separated into God and ssar/Tsar, clearly we're meant to rule over everyone and everything. Also Goku has a new transformation? Is this the Kaioken? False Super Saiyan? Something Brown related since he apparently has his tail back?
 
Ideally I'd like to learn some more Martial Arts before we go after new forms, mostly so we get some actual tactical skill rather than just a progressively bigger blunt instrument in the form of our ki. Crane Style for its useful abilities, maybe grab some goodies out of Ancient Saiyan styles, that sort of thing. Depending how we handle the upcoming situation, I might want to go after Ki Shield as well.

Don't really see a point to magic at the moment, not really anything coming up it'd be particularly useful for and Gotex is more naturally suited for it anyway, what with being aligned with divine ki.

Science I'm more down for; robotics and genetics knowledge will both be useful for dealing with Gero's machinations.
 
Icefyre said:
Huh so I just reread the previous update and our name can apparently be separated into God and ssar/Tsar, clearly we're meant to rule over everyone and everything. Also Goku has a new transformation? Is this the Kaioken? False Super Saiyan? Something Brown related since he apparently has his tail back?
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That was just a joke on GOssarD God and Gossard's God complex. But stealing this
 
Icefyre said:
Huh so I just reread the previous update and our name can apparently be separated into God and ssar/Tsar, clearly we're meant to rule over everyone and everything. Also Goku has a new transformation? Is this the Kaioken? False Super Saiyan? Something Brown related since he apparently has his tail back?
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Huh, that makes sense actually that Goku might have gotten Oozaru. Oozaru + kaioken would give Goku a 30x multiplier. It's not as good as Super Saiyan but it would keep Goku relevant. I am not sure if that would be possible. Does combining kaioken with Oozaru have the same flaws as combining it with Super Saiyan @lordchaos99 ?
 
Oozaru is a stable transformation, it's why SS4 is costless, despite the huge power boost.

I'll let you guys speculate from there as Gossard has no way of telling since he doesn't know either transformation
 
Swarm said:
Huh, that makes sense actually that Goku might have gotten Oozaru. Oozaru + kaioken would give Goku a 30x multiplier. It's not as good as Super Saiyan but it would keep Goku relevant. I am not sure if that would be possible. Does combining kaioken with Oozaru have the same flaws as combining it with Super Saiyan @lordchaos99 ?
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Well, he did mention halo's maybe he killed king kai while training.

Which, thinking about it, might release the bojack and gang fighters.
 
Hmmm we should make Goku train with his sons sometime just to see what he managed to learn in the otherworld. Plus, that gives us an excuse to see his stat sheet :p We should probably have Gohan train with Goku since Gossard might kill Goku.
 
Ah...then continuity error.

I googled to see if King Kai had a halo, got that picture before the update. In that case...hmm...
I can work with that. It actually makes rather a lot of sense tbh.

??? just happened, resulting in King kai's death
 
Swarm said:
That would be really bad. If I remember correctly Bojack is as strong as Perfect Cell. I don't think Gohan or Gossard can deal with him right now :o
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He's between Super Saiyan 1 and Super Saiyan 2 canon Gohan in terms of strength, so a PL somewhat less than a billion should be pretty accurate. Pretty out of our league at the moment.
 
A non Bojack example could be:
1) Goku regrows his tail while on his Adventure Training
2) Goku transforms into a Great Ape because of 'Moon' (Hey he once transform from Krillin's bald head)
3) Went berserk and kill King Kai
4) Using magic / Kaioken (since being dead means less strain on the body, technically enabling you to use something like Kaioken x50...), King Kai manage to beat Goku and force him back
5) Goku trains to control Great Ape and learn Kaioken, promising to wish King Kai back to life with the Dragon Balls, but now knowing that the ordinary set is now stone while the Black Star set is dangerous.
 
Morphic Tide said:
It shows that there's the option for a dirty as hell trick of blinding people by declining to block the fusion-by-compression while punching them in the face. Also, fill an area with Ki and manipulate it into attacks coming from several directions at once, with none of them coming from you. Seems like the visual of Buster Shell supports pulling that off.

And the shield is powerful to the point of no selling Super Saiyan 2 attacks on Broly's use. Dat be bullshit, yo. Sure, that was being used by an at least 250X multiplier, but it still no-sold Super Saiyan 2.
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Generally in a fight both fighters are protecting the atmosphere, so that trick only works against the lazy or the unskilled who have never trained before.
The Ki attack thing is already a thing, Piccolo's Hellzone Grenade does it

So, a x250 vs a x200 means the Shield is bullshit? The shield is OP and rather efficient and effective for each point of PL
 
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