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Is... That supposed to be possible?
Just... I sort of wanna see the reactions from the Z fighters and King Kai. 3 years old and a SS3 and whatever Gossard currently is. Just... Give em til they're 7 and I don't think anyone in the galaxy could match them. Intergalactic Saiyan Empire with Vegeta as their manservant.
Wait so for Gohan it's going to be:
1. Base
2. Super Saiyan (Base x50)
2a. Super Saiyan Grade 2 (Base x75)
2b. Super Saiyan Grade 3 (Base x100, speed drop)
3. Ascended Super Saiyan (Canon Super Saiyan 3 / Determination) (Base x200)
4. Ultimate Super Saiyan (Canon Super Saiyan 2 / Cold Fury) (Base x 400)
Did I get that right? @lordchaos99
We are nearing end-of-DBZ transformations and we're still technically in Dragon Ball land. Or at least Gohan is.
@lordchaos99 If Gossard got his forms in the opposite order would his Cold Fury be the one called Ascended Super Saiyan? Or is SSJ2 always called Ultimate Super Saiyan in this Quest? In which case the naming would be:
1. Super Saiyan (SSJ1) [Base x50]
2. Ultimate Super Saiyan (SSJ2) [Base x100]
3. Ascended Super Saiyan (looks like canon SSJ3 minus lightning) [Base x200]
4. Perfect Super Saiyan (SSJ3) [Base x400]
SS3. Just look at the hair and those eyebrows.I think I am getting grades and numbers mixed. So is Gohan is SSJ3, or is he is SSJ1 grade 3 aka Trunk' s overly bulky form against Cell?
I think I am getting grades and numbers mixed. So is Gohan is SSJ3, or is he is SSJ1 grade 3 aka Trunk' s overly bulky form against Cell?
Gohan gets an original form the QM made for this Quest, it looks like SSJ3 minus lightning and the modifier is Base x200 [Super Saiyan x 4]I think I am getting grades and numbers mixed. So is Gohan is SSJ3, or is he SSJ1 grade 3 aka Trunk' s overly bulky form against Cell?
Meh, still calling it ssj3. Trying to make up different names for the same form can only end in despair. Maybe something like incomplete ss3?Gohan gets an original form the QM made for this Quest, it looks like SSJ3 minus lightning and the modifier is Base x200 [Super Saiyan x 4]
Heh, Thinking the true HERO of the quest can fail.
Gohan gets an original form the QM made for this Quest, it looks like SSJ3 minus lightning and the modifier is Base x200 [Super Saiyan x 4]
Meh, still calling it ssj3. Trying to make up different names for the same form can only end in despair. Maybe something like incomplete ss3?
Heh, Thinking the true HERO of the quest can fail.
Not really an original form, just nitpicking the 'long hair and eyeridge' from the 'lightning'
SS3 without SS2, so yeah incomplete works.
And um, he does? I have the rolls for the next update. Gossard goes False grade2 (x1.5) and Gohan loses.
btw Im working on Daecl's request now, a consolidated info list on transformations and sparks.
This is getting ridiculous!! Don't get me wrong I liked that gohan critted himself in ss3 and that we are the Vegeta of the situation. It's refreshing to have the protagonist with the obvious advantages trying and failing to beat the "normal" npc brother, but then I remember that they are 3 years old and my instinctive reaction is that no matter how genius and talented they are, I just can't take infants with the power to destroy a solar system seriously.
And this is why in the canon timeline, even if Vegeta never really becomes stronger than Goku he has still 'won' the dragonball universe by acquiring those sweet sweet genetics for the Saiyan royal line.I'd ask what the hell has Bulma been feeding her kids with. But the answer is obviously EVERYTHING.
But it happened in canon? Baby Trunks and Gotenks could theoretically do it too?
But it happened in canon? Baby Trunks and Gotenks could theoretically do it too?
This is getting ridiculous!! Don't get me wrong I liked that gohan critted himself in ss3 and that we are the Vegeta of the situation. It's refreshing to have the protagonist with the obvious advantages trying and failing to beat the "normal" npc brother, but then I remember that they are 3 years old and my instinctive reaction is that no matter how genius and talented they are, I just can't take infants with the power to destroy a solar system seriously.
And this is why in the canon timeline, even if Vegeta never really becomes stronger than Goku he has still 'won' the dragonball universe by acquiring those sweet sweet genetics for the Saiyan royal line.
That aside I've been wondering something, if Orange form makes us trip balls and we can eventually combine it with the GREEN does that mean that when we do it that the ENTIRE hive-mind is going to go on a trip worthy of Popo? because the thought of millions upon millions of crazy green energy fireflies (and Broly) suddenly getting ridiculously high is funny to me.
What happened in canon? Goten and Trunks didn't fuse for the first time until they were eight and nine respectively. That's older than both the wonder twins put together.
Not to mention people were basically calling in-universe bullshit on that at the time anyway.
Gotenks was the Fusion, you are thinking of Goten
Didn't Goten become a Super Saiyan before he could remember? Which given his age at the time he said that (~8 ish?) means it was around now or before that he hit Super Saiyan 1. Without any major training or big emotional whammies like right now or during Gossard's first Legendary Rampage.
Assuming Gohan's canon Power Level at age four untransformed and without a rage boost (700). That is 35,000. Or slightly less than twice Vegeta when he tried to destroy Earth. And Goten is rather more powerful than that, given Gotenks SS3 faced down Super Buu.