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The Life of a Half-Saiyan (Thread1) (DBZ)

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Nix's Warden said:
Huh really? I though chaos told us he got enough from the mind-meld to get Northern Galaxy. Regardless that's just another reason to not worry about him. Maybe he'll break free and wreak Freiza and his family for us? Hell that would be one hell of an interlude. The Cold Family against Broly. I'd love to read that.
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No, we know he's in the Western (or whatever) Galaxy. We don't know we personally are in the Northern Galaxy, thus he couldn't learn that from our head.
Captain Spatula said:
Your confidence sort of worries me. Chaos has implied Broly's PL is higher than 200k. What we're getting is all that can make the distance between the legend link. Yeah by the time he finds Earth we should be able to handle him but I'd rather he never makes it to Earth.

Also, Broly goes legend whenever we do. Why wouldn't he of also been able to learn to master the form as well? Without the mind control device it wouldn't surprise me that he'd gain mastery pretty quickly and that would be a problem as well.
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I still don't get what you have against Broly so much. I do not see a fight happening between us and him. We are in some ways the same person.

As for gaining mastery, we'd be there every step of the way because whenever he's Green we are too, and vice-versa. So he'd have to gain mastery faster than we do.
 
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Yeah I wouldn't worry too much about Gossard's (inevitable) ascenscion to godhood, for Popo's sake we haven't even reach puberty yet. Let's just focus on the actually important things, like:
1. Dealing with whatever is coming our way soon, heavily implied to be weaker than us but having some nasty tricks because of the QM's comment about PL not being everything.
2. Getting down all the basics neccesary for maximum result on the actual training (Ki Training, new Martial Arts Style,etc)
3. Getting False Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan (but not combining them just yet).
4. Getting Super Saiyan Grade 2 and 3
5. Getting Full Power Super Saiyan.
6. Science and raising Engineering and Int stat.
6. Raising Willpower and reducing Instinct.
 
Trondason said:
No, we know he's in the Western (or whatever) Galaxy. We don't know we personally are in the Northern Galaxy, thus he couldn't learn that from our head.

I still don't get what you have against Broly so much. I do not see a fight happening between us and him. We are in some ways the same person.

As for gaining mastery, we'd be there every step of the way because whenever he's Green we are too, and vice-versa. So he'd have to gain mastery faster than we do.
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Not so much as against him. Just that I figured we'd eventually get to like Goku and Broly will try to kill him. I just see conflict with him as nearly inevitable so it'd be easier if he was dead.
 
Captain Spatula said:
Your confidence sort of worries me. Chaos has implied Broly's PL is higher than 200k. What we're getting is all that can make the distance between the legend link. Yeah by the time he finds Earth we should be able to handle him but I'd rather he never makes it to Earth.

Also, Broly goes legend whenever we do. Why wouldn't he of also been able to learn to master the form as well? Without the mind control device it wouldn't surprise me that he'd gain mastery pretty quickly and that would be a problem as well.
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What Trondason said. Also he's not guaranteed to the same insane beserker he was in canon. Not with him actually learning there is a way to control The Legend.

His obsession with Goku?

I honestly would NOT be surprised if that's only because that grudge, from when he was a newly born infant, is the only negative feeling he'd really known before The Legend dominated his mind, and then his father mind controlled him, so he was driven to erase the source no matter what. Learning to control The Legend? Being able to let go of that hate he should have been to young to ever even remember? Having a friend, no a brother, who could understand him better then literally anyone else in the all the universe could? I could easily see him becoming Gossards BFF.
 
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Captain Spatula said:
Not so much as against him. Just that I figured we'd eventually get to like Goku and Broly will try to kill him. I just see conflict with him as nearly inevitable so it'd be easier if he was dead.
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He could kill Goku once or twice, get it out of his system. After all, it's not like death is permanent or means anything. Goku did purposefully die for a while to get some Grade A Training in the Afterlife.
And even then, we get to spend time with him in the Green. We could lessen his anger against Goku, help him with his self-control, etc.
 
lordchaos99 said:
There is a bit of a difference between walking into the afterlife and dying.
The halo for one.
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Ah, thought he legit died, but in a more easily undone way, like a poison that puts you in a death-like coma that's close enough to dead for your spirit to wander over, or something. Bulma did make it sound like he wasn't just walking to the Afterlife.
 
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lordchaos99 said:
Transformations:
"Yellow": Can project your Aura into a weapon, spitting raw Yellow Ki. This also spikes your Power Level by x3. If you sustain this form more than a minute your hair begins flickering blonde and you will promptly collapse unconscious. However when you collapse, your hair flickers between Black, Yellow, Green and Cyan.

LEGENDARY Saiyan: The Green energy source that is your birthright. Simply attaining the form causes you to lose yourself within the Green unless you impose YOUR will. A mindbending hiveminded transformation. Broly is forced into the state and subsumed into the hivemind that you control and subjugate. You gain a x5 multiplier that increases over time and complete control over your Ki. Minimum Instinct: 50

Traits:
THE LEGEND: You are the Legendary Super Saiyan. A mere rumour, this awe-inspiring, wonderful, monstrous form has spelled near-doom for the Saiyan race every time it has appeared. Beginning Power Level boost 5,000 + (1d10*1,000). Gains access to Legendary Saiyan transformation track. +900 Saiyan instincts, +25 Strength

YOUR POWER IS MAXIMUM!: You are a Legend, the strength of your predecessor scared the Gods Themselves and Those Beyond Mortal Ken. Your body is built to Fight, to Rule and to Conquer All Within Sight. +150% PL boost except Zenkai

Tailed Saiyan: Your tail grants you balance and regulates your Ki within your body. If provided with Blutz Waves however you gain access to the Great Oozaru Form! Increase Powerlevel by *1.25. Grants access to Oozaru transformation track. +50 Saiyan instincts.

Line of the Son: +10 to all "Super' and "Legendary" forms. +50% XP gain from Sparring and Fighting

Name of the Son: +50% XP gain from Sparring and Fighting


Stats:
Potential: 19
Intelligence: 24
Willpower: 9
Endurance: 10
Saiyan Instincts: 910
Strength-Dexterity Ratio: 65

Skills:

Turtle School: 10/10 - You possess the knowledge of the school, this Defensive style is built around tapping every single ounce of power in a body and bringing it forth while also increasing toughness. The epitome of the paranoid, untalented but supremely dedicated martial artist, it's primary technique is the Kamehameha Wave and grants an increase in the amount of Health per Power Level.
1G: 40,000/194,444 PL boost
Oozaru Mastery: 0/??? - Maintaining control of the giant monkey form. You currently have no idea what the Oozaru form even is, or that it's possible.

Orange Aura: 0/4 - You sometimes shower Orange sparks when emotional.

Yellow Aura: 4/4 - You have unlocked the Yellow transformation.
-Golden Aura 1/10 - You can channel your Energy into a more potent spark attack and hold the Yellow form longer.

??? Aura: N/A - You don't know anything about this. Maybe it's Cyan??

Speech: 10/10 - You are perfectly fluent in Japanglish, the native tongue of the Earth.

Command: 2/100 - You like giving orders.

Efficient Application of Ki: 50/100 - You have begun to shape Ki for use in Techniques, rather than rely purely on instinct when throwing it around. You are rather skilled at it, able to do the typical Ki manipulation, including gripping Ki attacks without letting them explode.

Ki Training: 5/10 - You understand how to train Ki in the basic methods, to train Body, Mind and Soul through generic martial arts workouts but have not quite mastered the technique. You gain half the bonuses of a Martial Art.

Meditation: 20/20 - You have learned how to guide yourself into and out of the meditative state, though you prefer doing so away from any people or objects including the ground.

LEGENDARY Saiyan Mastery: 1/1 MAX - You have attained the form, what else is there?

-LEGENDARY Saiyan Control: 69/70 (Currently MAXED) - Within the form you are Gossard, the Legendary Half-Human, And you CONTROL the form. The hivemind exists at your will, kept out of your head but pressing against your mind like acid.

-LEGENDARY Saiyan grade 2: 6/10 - You felt something within the form. Something that has been touched myriad times but never achieved in the echoes found within the Green. What is it?

Mad Science: 4/Purple - The ability to break laws of physics and understand Bulma's 3rd grade homework.

Engineering: 40/200 - The sparky bit goes in the socket. The bendy bit needs to be straight. Smash this bits together to make Shocker-Beeps! In one day you learned about Electro-

Magnetism and promptly used it to bring your brother down to earth.

Intimidate: 6/10 - You are naturally a rather intimidating baby, and if commented on it Goku blames Bulma. Bulma thinks it's cute and sneaks you treats when you do it.
Other skills unknown.

Ki Techniques:
Energy Shield - ???: You think you remember doing this, and scraps of knowledge whisper in your mind, but you cannot yet replicate the feat especially without Green energy

Flight - Advanced: You can fly at a speed close to the speed of Light. You feel you are still being held back by your ability to channel Ki the right way more than your skill in Flight, especially with the level of Power you wield.

Orangepoke - Primitive: A derivative of Gohan's Yellowpoke ability, you can channel Orange Ki into your finger, then launch it like a dart from a blowgun at someone. At this level it's slightly stronger than if you'd physically poked them, but does strange things to Green, Orange and Yellow Ki-Auras and Transformations. If used on a Super Saiyan will induce the Deluded Super Saiyan form.

Jan Ken - Basic: A series of three attacks that channel Speed (Chyoki), Strength (Gu) or both (Pa). The first is a blinding attack, both physically attacking the eyes and at the higher stages conceptually rendering the victim senseless. The second is a rather basic physical attack, though much more efficient and strong than typical without sacrificing speed, while the third temporarily stuns the victim.

Kamehameha - Advanced: The staple of the Turtle School. By gathering all of the inefficient immobile pools of Ki throughout the body and channeling it, this technique greatly increases in power. The apex of efficiency.

-Variant: LEGENDARY Kamehameha - Basic: Tapping into the green sparks that burn in your Energy even in your Base State, you can turn your attack into a continuous beam that only grows in strength the longer you hold it. Unfortunately the strange Green Ki reacts differently to regular Ki and thus your technique is less efficient and developed.

--Variant: The LEGENDARY Bubble Beam - Skilled: Tying the length of the beam to your breath you can emit it much much longer than before. With the Tsuihikidan the Kamehameha beam fragments into bubbles of destructive energy homing into the target and the Green Energy being used prevents each bubble from dissipating, instead the bubbles gain strength and speed over time.

-Variant?: Orange Kamehameha???: You need to explore the Orange Form more to fully bring forth your idea

Tsuihikidan (Modifer) - Primitive: You have a basic understanding of the technique but aren't skilled enough to use it in actual combat
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lordchaos99 said:
Transformations:
Yellow (Super Saiyan): A powerful transformation unlocked when you realized your brother was gone, replaced with a maniacal "Legendary Saiyan". Attaining this form increases your power by x50 but it changes you, your eyes turn green and your hair Blonde. Minimum Instinct: 0

Orange and Yellow (Deluded Super Saiyan): Assuming this form fully will probably kill you

Traits:
Golden Boy: Within you burns the Heart of a Super Saiyan. (Redacted)

Tailed Saiyan: Your tail grants you balance and regulates your Ki within your body. If provided with Blutz Waves however you gain access to the Great Oozaru Form! Increase
Powerlevel by *1.25. Grants access to Oozaru transformation track. +50 Saiyan instincts.

Line of the Son: +10 to all "Super' forms. +50% XP gain from Sparring and Fighting

Name of the Son: +50% XP gain from Sparring and Fighting

Watcher: You learn by observing everything a person does. Your eyes focus completely on them in a way you have been told is 'eerie' and memorize every tiny thing. +100% XP Gain when attempting to copy what someone shows you.

Stats:
Potential: 20
Intelligence: 28
Willpower: 10
Endurance: 6
Saiyan Instincts: 128
Strength-Dexterity Ratio: 52

Skills:
Demon King Piccolo School: 10/10 - You possess the knowledge of the school, this tricky School is designed around misdirection and different methods of attack, as shown by the Soumasen Eye Blast or the Evil Wave Explosion.
1G: 19,000/444,444 PL boost
Oozaru Mastery: 0/??? - Maintaining control of the giant monkey form. You currently have no idea what the Oozaru form even is, or that it's possible

Orange: 0/10 - SOMETHING happened and something inside you stirred. You attained the combined form of Yellow and Orange for a nanosecond, halting the transformation in the middle. Unable to complete the form without dying, you simply held it there and slowly dragged yourself down through Force Of Will.

Efficient Application of Ki: 34/100 - You have begun to shape Ki for use in Techniques, rather than rely purely on instinct when throwing it around. Though you prefer to use direct attacks with as little shaping as possible, you can take Shaped Ki and redirect it, deflecting blasts of much lower power than you and gripping giant balls of Ki without bursting the fragile casing

Ki Training: 10/10 - You understand how to train Ki in the basic methods, to train Body, Mind and Soul through generic martial arts workouts. Gain the full bonuses offered by Martial Arts when training

Meditation: 20/20 - You have learned how to guide yourself into and out of the meditative state, though you prefer doing so surrounded by Ki Signatures. You have taken to flying into a city and meditating on top of office buildings. Suspiciously, those same buildings report increased production???

-???: ???/??? - What?

Super Saiyan Mastery: 40/50 - You have achieved the form and adopted it as your own, quelling the peaks of emotion the form grants. You cannot quite maintain the form a full hour, but you feel the plateau ahead, theoretical permanence at the expense of a quicker old age from the passive strain.

Super Saiyan Grade 2?: 9/10 - You feel something deeper, a deeper colour of gold if only you could reach out and touch it. It is RIGHT THERE

Super Saiyan Grade 3?: 9/20 - You feel something deeper, a deeper colour of gold if only you could reach out and touch it.

Mad Science: 6/Purple - The ability to break laws of physics and understand Bulma's 3rd grade homework.

Engineering: 79/200 - The sparky bit goes in the socket. The bendy bit needs to be straight. Smash this bits together to make Shocker-Beeps! Today you learned about Thermodynamics, hahaha Gossards meat will never be cooked again! Screws remain an elusive mystery

Intimidate: 3/10 - You are naturally a rather intimidating baby, and if commented on it Goku blames Bulma. Bulma thinks it's cute and sneaks you treats when you do it.
Other skills unknown

Ki Techniques:
Flight - Zenith: You can fly casually with a mere thought, faster than the eyes can comprehend. When sprinting you can achieve speeds of 0.1C, though you definitely want to be protecting the atmosphere when you do it. Your knowledge of this technique cannot rise any higher, though your Ki Control holds you back.

Yellowpoke - Basic: You can channel Yellow Ki into your finger, then launch it like a dart from a blowgun at someone. At this level it's slightly stronger than if you'd punched them, but does strange things to Green, Orange and Yellow Ki-Auras and Transformations

Orangepoke - Basic: You can channel Orange Ki into your finger, then launch it like a dart from a blowgun at someone. At this level it's slightly stronger than if you'd punched them, but does strange things to Green, Orange and Yellow Ki-Auras or Transformations. If used on a Super Saiyan will induce the Deluded Super Saiyan form.

Unshaped Masenko - Advanced: A two-handed blast attack, this variation of Piccolo's technique trades power for width. It is an area attack spreading from the crossed palms of your hands

-Variant: Golden Masenko - Perfect: It seems in the Super Saiyan form your lack of skill in shaping drifts away. By channeling pure Yellow energy while in the Yellow form, your Masenko is much more traditional and focused.

-Variant: Hyper Masenko - Advanced: You are skilled enough using the Golden Masenko you can do it one handed, even firing the technique from both hands independently
Unshaped Makosen - Basic: The sister technique of the Masenko, the Makosen is a deceptive technique. By firing a weak blast to distract and draw attention, followed by a much stronger one to do the real damage. Like Gohan's other variant, it is unshaped, causing the burst to expand in size at the expense of power.

Explosive Wave - Basic: A protective maneuver, you release your Ki in a blast of energy, driving away foes and giving you breathing room

Tenma Defense - Advanced: Inspired by the Green Shield Gossard utilized, this expanding Shield is capable of protecting a large area and multiple people. While merely a lesser shade of the true Emerald Shield it is still an incredibly powerful defense. People within the shield (including Gohan himself) report feeling refreshed by the experience

Unseen Blast (Modifer) - Basic: By channeling your attack through your eyes, you can surprise an enemy at the expense of reduced power and temporary blindness.
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lordchaos99 said:
Traits:
Otherworldly Energies: Your Ki naturally flows and settles into a Divinely Inspired state, similar in nature to that of a Planetary Guardian. And deep within your soul, something stirs. A tribal drumming, a beat of six. +1,000PL, +5 Potential, can self-teach Kai School and Divine Saiyan School.

Tailed Saiyan: Your tail grants you balance and regulates your Ki within your body. If provided with Blutz Waves however you gain access to the Great Oozaru Form! Increase Powerlevel by *1.25. Grants access to Oozaru transformation track. +50 Saiyan instincts.

Line of the Son: +10 to all "Super' forms. +50% XP gain from Sparring and Fighting

Name of the Son: +50% XP gain from Sparring and Fighting

???: ???

???

Stats:
Potential: 24
Magical Aptitude: ???
Intelligence: 20
Willpower: 4
Endurance: 6
Saiyan Instincts: 180
Strength-Dexterity: 30

Red ???: 10/??? Pretty red lights!

Yellow Aura: 0/??? Pretty yellow lights!

Spirituality: 3/??? - The knowledge of how to be a Kami, as filtered through Goku's perspective, though somewhat tempered by Mr Popo.

Magical Skill: ???

-Namekian Magic: ???

-Kami Magic: ???

Mad Science: 3/Purple - The ability to break laws of physics and understand Bulma's 3rd grade homework.

Engineering: 10/200 - Making sparky bits go into other bits to make Lights. You like Light.

Intimidate: 9/10 - You are naturally a rather intimidating baby, which you use to great effect in taming your older Employee Buru
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Also I did this. Sorry if it bothers you, mostly I just added periods and spaced everything out. The massive walls of text without spaces made the front page a pain in the ass for me to read. If you don't want to change it feel free to ignore this. I won't mind.
 
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    • You sit on the white tiles of the Lookout, your beloved sister sat in your lap.
    "And then the big bad wolf gobbled up the chatty little girl just like her delicious grandmother, because he was big and tough, while they were weak defenseless Humans." You take a couple of liberties with the words of the childrens book as you read to her. She seems to like it though, she hasn't touched the lasergun partially assembled in her lap in a full minute.
    Noticing you'd paused in your reading, she takes her cue. Wriggling her nose, the page unsteadily floats over, turning.
    "Good girl. You are getting the hang of this." You praise, bouncing the tiny half-Saiyan "Now as the big bad wolf sat there, licking his chops from his young snack a nasty lumberjack hero breaks into the wolves conquered lair with a pitiful lump of metal brandished high as if in a threat."

    You notice the pitiful energy sources rising towards the Lookout, but continue reading. While strong for humans, the level is beneath your notice. Well below Gottex's power even.

    "And the nasty hero was rewarded for his cowardly attack and lived off his fame for the rest of his sad weakling days. And that's why you never rely purely on offense, you need to hone your defensive skills as well when trying to eat people. The End." You finish, closing the book with a snap. Looking up as five Humans step onto the Lookout from thin air.
    The leader, a teenaged blonde man with a Power just shy of 300 steps forward, blue eyes locked onto your unblinkingly. The other four flank him, a man and woman on each side trying to exude confidence despite
    "May I help you?" You ask, setting Gottex on the ground next to you. Willing yourself to your feet rather than stand up, you cross your arms.
    "Yeah, we'll be taking that there Dragonball you got." The red-headed hulk interjects, gesturing at you. Idly you consider giving it to them to annoy Goku, but think better of it. After all, if they want it it must be useful.
    "Oooor." You draw the word out in a sardonic drawl, lips quirking up into a casually confident smirk "You could surrender now and I will only brutally dismember one of you...you, the ginger probably, you annoyed me."
    "Gossard kill!" Gottex giggles a command. Teh leader steps forward, clearing his throat.
    "Ahem, please excuse my subordinate. There is rather little reason to be impolite about these things. My name is Captain Samuel," He tries to affect forced casualness, a pitiful attempt at pretending maturity for the teenaged warrior "We will be out of you and your sisters way in but a moment, we simply require you to..."
    You make eye-contact as he talks, growling
    "Stand still for a little bit." He continues as your growl cuts out. Every muscle in your body frozen in place from your bicep to your orbicularis oculi.

    You call upon your Power, Aura flaring around you. Your Energy spiking to it's peak as you focus your toddler willpower on moving. On closing your eyes.
    Beside you, you hear Gottex cry out and be cut off like you were mid-noise.
    The red headed one laughs at your struggles, shortly followed by the other subordinates of this 'Captain'.
    "That's the thing with Ki." The teenaged magician smirks, maintaining his unblinking gaze "Bound up in the muscles. Remove the conceptual link between thought and action, and all the flashy lights in the world won't do anything. Such a pity you never learned Magic hmm?"
    You would respond if you could, but his paralysis technique forbids even that. Instead you settle on forcing the issue. You take control of your Ki and stoke the green spark, your Aura turning bright green but your hair remaining pure black
    "Tsk, I just said, all the flashy lights. You can't transform in your mind little monkey. It's a physical transformation am I right?" The black-starred Dragonball is plucked from your hat unceremoniously, and three humans achingly slowly move off the Lookout, moving like molasses to your enhanced reflexes. And you cannot do a thing. Struggling, your mind sending impulse after impulse to move, but your muscles receive nothing.
    Samuel moves closer, kneeling to be closer to your eye level
    "You are going to kill me when I blink aren't you." He laughs "The second you are free, I'll be dead and you will be going after the Dragonballs the people I work for are gathering. Oh how history repeats. It was your father that made me into this you know."
    "Boss uh is now really the best-" his sole remaining squadmate asks, from the corner of your eyes you can see she looks nervous.
    "Shut up Miriam. It was your father, Boy, that little monkey brat that disgraced him. Caused his death. So I will avenge him. Garlic Junior promised four heads on a platter for the four star Dragonball after all. Goku and Tao are two, an annoying rival from my school days...And my final one, is the one avenging my own death. You will die Monkeyspawn, you will die screaming."

    You simply stare into his eyes, frozen in place and blazing with fury.
    In the distance you feel a strange pulse of energy, while you stand immobile
    "Any moment now you tiny brat." He crows with pride.

    "YOUR WISH HAS BEEN GRANTED!" The deep voice echoes through the world. An ominous rumbling reaching even to the Lookout.
    Samuel glances to the side, seeing the large red Dragon. It is the last thing he sees.
    With a roar of pure fury your hair burns straight into Purple and his eyes dissolve into nothing. Two fingers glowing with Orange power embedded into the eye socket.
    You grab his spine and experiment with Green energy a little. Forcing it into him and commanding it to Burn. Then carefully carving into his skin a scar 'Gossard'.
    A blur of effort and every inch of his body bears your name, imbued with Hatred and Rage you imbue it with Green energy, dissolving past his skin into his very Soul.

    You toss him from the Lookout, letting gravity take effect before he has a chance to scream. The energy in his system will not kill him, you won't kill him from the inside out. You, the energy within Samuel, burn just low enough to keep him conscious. Just low enough not to kill him as every nerve, every possible connection that could have led to a nerve, flares with agony. Agony that will only stop when he has a sudden impact with the ground. And at the rate gravity applies...
    He screams for over five minutes.

    The woman is let off easier. She simply has her head removed with a Ki Blast after you inscribe your name into her soul.


    In the distance, Magic surges. Piccolo told you about the Black star Dragonballs

    What do you do first?
    [X] Grab the Dragonballs before they get away!
    [ ] Someone named "Garlic Junior" wished for something. Kill him and find out what...no scratch that, reverse it.
    [ ] Write-In

    So yeah...THIS just happened :drevil::drevil::drevil:
     
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    Yeah no letting them scatter through space is a bad idea, hopefully we can get all seven before they left orbit. Even if not, catching some of them (or at least OUR 4 Star Ball) is bound to make it easier to save the planet from exploding.

    Also I'm proud of Gossard's first kill, but I bet he's pissed it's to clean up Daddy's mess. Double pissed because it ruins his story-time with Gottex.
     
    So I'm unfamiliar with Blackstar DB plotline. I looked it up and it looks we're gonna be going all over the galaxy to get them. Also we won't have the dragonballs afterwards?

    Lets try to cut off some of that travelling with this.
    [X] Grab the Dragonballs before they get away!
     
    Kshail said:
    So I'm unfamiliar with Blackstar DB plotline. I looked it up and it looks we're gonna be going all over the galaxy to get them. Also we won't have the dragonballs afterwards?

    Lets try to cut off some of that travelling with this.
    [X] Grab the Dragonballs before they get away!
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    Basically if you use them they scatter throughout the galaxy. In one year the planet the Wish was made on is destroyed, this is to negate the negative wish energy (the Shadow Dragons the normal Dragonballs create).
    The Nameless Namekian put a failsafe in though, for if the balls were used on the wrong planet. Namely if you gather them again on the planet before it is destroyed, you can have the Dragonballs absorb the negative energy like the normal Dragonballs (remember, 7 Wishes and you get Wish Dragons, energy dissipates at 1/100 years).

    And you already didn't have the regular dragonballs. Regular Dragonballs requires Kami, Blackstar requires the Nameless Namekian (Kami + Piccolo)
    Although there IS a plothole in canon. In GT the Blackstar balls should have been inactive, they were created by NN who split into Piccolo and Kami. So they turned to stone naturally until the NN was a person again.
    But as shown with Kami, people who made Dragonballs that then Fused into someone kills their Dragonballs. Remember Nail?

    Piccolo, the new Nameless Namekian is not in fact the same as Old!NN. One is Piccolo/Kami, the other is Piccolo/Nail/Kami.

    It works in this Quest though :p As Piccolo ate Kami but didn't eat Nail.
     
    So i'm pretty sure at least basic magic training is going to be a priority after this whole thing, hopefully with engineering at the same time so we can hopefully combine the 2 and eventually come up with an anti-magic control bracelet.

    Also @lordchaos99 out of curiosity how bad would black star shadow dragons be compared to normal ones?
     
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