The Fall of Arnor - A LOTR GSRPG

You can avoid roads entirely if you choose but it's slower than using even the roughest paths. If you're fleeing an army or trying to go undetected, it can be the more preferable option but in terms of reaching your foes as swiftly as possible or trade, roads are king.
 
The OP clearly states that armies really only use roads and there is no purpose in veering off of them even cutting off a few miles for a journey. I am sure heroes are not bound to this rule or the things that try and stop them, nor are some creative movements and the orders that stop such movements, nevertheless, we should just assume that an army is crossing a road at all times.


From this mock map I've created, from the original map, these are the only two routes out of the Dwarvish realm into the realms of men. The north crosses into Harlond, and north of it is Mithlond, it also crosses back into the other route, which has an elven army station over the border crossing.

So it is without doubt that if the Dwarves of the Blue Mountains wish to make any military movement, they must engage in cordial relations. They may be their own realm but greatly reduced they are, and just as well if they wish to use Lindon roads, they can at least contact their administrator or they are welcome to build their own.

Your map contradicts canon
 
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Your map contradicts canon

It's.. Not my map. It's the map for the game.

You can avoid roads entirely if you choose but it's slower than using even the roughest paths. If you're fleeing an army or trying to go undetected, it can be the more preferable option but in terms of reaching your foes as swiftly as possible or trade, roads are king.

Got it. Was just making sure I was not misinterpreting you so I went with the utilitarian path. Sure, if they make a b-line for the main road, I doubt I'd be able to effectively catch them in that case. Or at least, not worth the effort.
 
Well, I'm glad people are willing to role play being reluctant to intervene, instead dogpiling Angmar.
Yeah, my excuse is my guy is supposed to be wrathful, and hates orcs/hill men. If I got my second or third choices (dwarves) I would probably just chill under mountains. For a while.

But yeah, although the Witch King is pretty scary, I didn't pick this role to win.
 
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Well, I'm glad people are willing to role play being reluctant to intervene, instead dogpiling Angmar.

There has to be some reason the Witch-King wasn't defeated until four hundred years after he declared war on Arthedain and the might of Gondor came down to crash upon him. I'm betting it was Cirdan having a lot of sway in this period, but doing the usual elf thing in just trying to wait it out and understating the problem.
 
Well, I'm glad people are willing to role play being reluctant to intervene, instead dogpiling Angmar.
King Dain is so close to not caring and rolling his eyeballs at his kinsman's "over-reaction" that it isn't funny. Honestly, the only thing that would actually make him sit up is if Rivendell collapsed since history in LOTR is a litany of human realms rising and falling.

In contrast, look at poor Lord Uri trying so hard to save the world. :V
 
So no one viable is going to assist. Swell. I guess I'll just sit here and get besieged for a few decades then.
 
So no one viable is going to assist. Swell. I guess I'll just sit here and get besieged for a few decades then.
Rivendell besieged would actually get Khazad-Dum's attention. It turns what is a "silly human civil war" into something very different. No human claimant to a throne would attack an Elven realm unless something strange is going on (why waste civil war troops on a non-claimant?). Granted, Rivendell and Khazad-Dum don't really have much in the way of relations at this time though.
 
Rivendell besieged would actually get Khazad-Dum's attention. It turns what is a "silly human civil war" into something very different. No human claimant to a throne would attack an Elven realm unless something strange is going on (why waste civil war troops on a non-claimant?). Granted, Rivendell and Khazad-Dum don't really have much in the way of relations at this time though.

Perhaps, though the lack of allies until the orcs are all over my lawn means I can't really do much but dig in.
 
So can Angmar indeed sponsor another player to take over Gundabad in order to get an ally? Because those human tribals don't seem like they will bear the brunt of elven and dwarven wrath well xD.

More like smaller strike forces to sow chaos and raid enemies. Or add as a force multiplier when needed.
 
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Did you just call me King, dwarf? That's a grudgin'.

The only King left live that Círdan might pledge service too is King Ingwë , High King of All the Elves, in Valinor. Círdan served Thingol, like all Sindar, and only pledged himself to Gil-Galad since he literally raised him and the title passed to him after Turgon's death. There are two Sinda Kingdoms in the East, but they are mostly made up of Silvan elves, while Lindon is mostly Noldor and Sindar elves from Beleriand. The only other person who could have possibly claimed Kingship of the Noldor is Galadriel. But her father got the title instead since most Elves and Noldor especially live in Valinor now, paired with women generally not inheriting.
 
Did you just call me King, dwarf? That's a grudgin'.

The only King left live that Círdan might pledge service too is King Ingwë , High King of All the Elves, in Valinor. Círdan served Thingol, like all Sindar, and only pledged himself to Gil-Galad since he literally raised him and the title passed to him after Turgon's death. There are two Sinda Kingdoms in the East, but they are mostly made up of Silvan elves, while Lindon is mostly Noldor and Sindar elves from Beleriand. The only other person who could have possibly claimed Kingship of the Noldor is Galadriel. But her father got the title instead since most Elves and Noldor especially live in Valinor now, paired with women generally not inheriting.
I mean, some upstart Noldor could claim to be High King of the Noldor but it'd be universally ridiculed and mocked what with no descendants of Feanor remaining in Middle Earth except a certain mournful bard who may or may not still be alive.
 
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Perhaps, though the lack of allies until the orcs are all over my lawn means I can't really do much but dig in.

The problem is that since Lothlorien won't help, asking for such from your neighbors across the great field seems foolish to Cirdan, who doesn't see how Rivendell could be threatened when they couldn't even get past Amon Sul in Arthedain. Consider it a compliment!

Elrond ruled Farlindon with Gil-Galad for a while in the second age. I'm sure he has some friends there, perhaps you might contact @Theravis
 
So can Angmar indeed sponsor another player to take over Gundabad in order to get an ally? Because those human tribals don't seem like they will bear the brunt of elven and dwarven wrath well xD.
If you pay me, you won't see my wrath anytime soon. :lol
Did you just call me King, dwarf? That's a grudgin'.
I don't really know LOTR lore that much, give me five minutes and I can edit the letter. :V
 
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If you pay me, you won't see my wrath anytime soon. :lol

I don't really know LOTR lore that much, give me five minutes and I can edit the letter. :V

Totally cool. Elves and their Kingships are a difficult one. They are not so traditional, as Dwarves are, they follow leaders. Not titles.
 
Totally cool. Elves and their Kingships are a difficult one. They are not so traditional, as Dwarves are, they follow leaders. Not titles.
Edit done. Thanks for the lore heads-up.
Perhaps, though the lack of allies until the orcs are all over my lawn means I can't really do much but dig in.
I mean there's plenty you could do.
1. You could for example invite Lindon and Khazad-Dum to send an observer to Rivendell who could write and forward reports that both rulers would likely take seriously (since it's their own subordinates).
2. You could begin purchasing mithril weapons and armor from Khazad-Dum (and fill my coffers) to create a super-elite light cavalry force that could do damage completely out of proportion to their numbers [Not shamelessly advertising here]
3. You could take a more active role and try to make sure that Rhudair remains in a state of civil war and that the southern Rhudair claimant survives so that the attention can never fall to heavily on you, etc etc.
 
Perhaps, though the lack of allies until the orcs are all over my lawn means I can't really do much but dig in.
Who are you playing as? Cardolan right? If so, your kingdom is on the verge of collapse.

EDIT: Forgot Skrev and now jank are playing Cardolan.
 
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Edit done. Thanks for the lore heads-up.

I mean there's plenty you could do.
1. You could for example invite Lindon and Khazad-Dum to send an observer to Rivendell who could write and forward reports that both rulers would likely take seriously (since it's their own subordinates).
2. You could begin purchasing mithril weapons and armor from Khazad-Dum (and fill my coffers) to create a super-elite light cavalry force that could do damage completely out of proportion to their numbers [Not shamelessly advertising here]
3. You could take a more active role and try to make sure that Rhudair remains in a state of civil war and that the southern Rhudair claimant survives so that the attention can never fall to heavily on you, etc etc.

Everything got mixed up from all the kin-slaying and continent destroying. For pretty much 3,000 years the Teleri, Vinyar, and Noldor were all ruled separately (with the Sindar being the main group of Teleri that stayed on Aman). Then around 800 years of conflict arose that broke everything. Gil-Galad gets crowned King when literally every other person from the line direct line of Finwe(the father of Feanor) is pretty much dead. Finarfin and his daughter Galadriel are pretty much the only other ones.

Gil-Galad unites the Sindar and Noldor into one, but a lot of Sindar are pissed off since it was seven Noldo, Feanor's sons, that killed their cousins in Valinor and also invaded and destroyed Doriath, the realm for many Sindar. They even chased the survivors down and destroyed the second to last refuge of Elves just to try and retrieve the Silmaril. War of Wrath comes around and everyone bands together to kill Morgoth. After this, when Gil-Galad and Cirdan start building Lindon, two large groups of Sindar leave to make their own kingdoms among the Silvan elves, which are an amalgamation of Teleri and Avari, Avari being the elves that shunned the call of the Vala to go west and reach Valinor. Legolas in a Sindar elf, but he is the Prince amongst Silvan elves.

Hope that clears some of it up for you. The Kingships was never really a thing since only four guys were Kings for thousands of years, then all of a sudden we are waging war and oh shit there gones one, and another one, and another one. There were 8 Kings of the Noldor technically, which is a testament still to the long life of the Elves, Gil-Galad's or Thingol's reigns both eclipse the line of Elendil by like 500-800 years (3,800 years did Thingol rule as King of Beleriand and the Sindar), and there were like 60 Kings and Stewards of Gondor.
 
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Yeah the challenge for the forces of the Dark Lord is to blitz a Target or two in order to mitigate the threat of everyone realizing he is a threat. And then all moving to murder him , easier said than done methinks.
 
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