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The dirt under your nails - ARCANE

Konradleijon said:
their wasn't a bullshit "Culture War" shit going on then where anything with minorities was "wonderful person" and the wider LoL fandom infamously has issues with racism and sexism
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Only because at that point in time the racists/sexists could still spew their hatred unopposed on the internet.
I still remember a time when the Internet's stance on female consent was 'No means yes, yes means anal.'
 
Konradleijon said:
me too hence the quotation marks. the word "Woke" "wonderful person" and "Cancel Culture" all once meant something but have been misused by white supremacists to the point I cringe when I hear any of the terms.

it's gotten to the point where trying to make fun of corporate faux progressiveness like the NFL saying BLM while having a business model of mostly white couches and owners who profit at mostly black athletes ruining their bodies.

without it seeming your a "Anti-wonderful person".

it's kind of upsetting the Arcane fandom has so many of those people in it. the racist double standards in the Arcane fandom pretty much soured it permanently for me as will as not being interesting in the PnZ corner when there is so much more interesting lore and characters in Runeterra
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To me the word woke is fundamentally different then sjw or cancel culture. Woke is a word coined by progressives, the other two were coined by conservatives to insult progressives. It's a big difference in my mind
 
Social Justice Warrior was actually also coined by progressives on Tumblr to describe people who would talk a big game about various causes in their posts but do almost nothing in their actual life.

It was swiftly co-oped by the right just like woke would be later.
 
stratigo said:
To me the word woke is fundamentally different then wonderful person or cancel culture. Woke is a word coined by progressives, the other two were coined by conservatives to insult progressives. It's a big difference in my mind
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thank you i cringe when ever i see leftist use the term "cancel culture" especially after Vladimir Putin used it unironicly is "mob mentality" outdated or something.

but yes trying to make fun of faux corporate liberalism is very hard because chuds would latch on like cookie cutter sharks. see when Doom Eternal tired to make fun of corporate speak and many videos of Doom sticking it to the "SJWs"

and the wider LOL fandom is infamous for this blaming every bad descion on China/Tencent even when there's no proof then again Sinophobia is insanely common on the internet.
 
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I just realized
So we have a LOT of fanmade songs for Jinx
We have 1 for Vi
1 for Viktor (I think, not sure if there is a 2nd one somewhere)
But nothing for Caitlyn or Jayce? :(
 
Me a few days ago:
"Grand Unified Bunny Theory" LMAO, folks are really feeling the wait for S2.
This analysis is going to be so ridiculously dumb. It even has an intentionally OTT shitpost-y trailer, for goodness sake.

Me today:
WELL I GUESS I'M ON-BOARD WITH BUNNY THEORY NOW

(Also, it looks like Jinx went and got the Valdiani back from the bottom of the river, after she dumped the bag in Ep 1. I love this show.)


View: https://youtu.be/GxL8OwAjie4
 
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An interesting observation from another random yt comment:

In the butterfly/"firelight" sequence on the bridge in Ep7, all the trapped robots fly in, ready to take every enforcer present out... emphasis on every enforcer. The butterflies don't visibly target people, they appear to target guns being carried before priming.

Extending that one layer deeper: Caitlyn gave up her gun for Vi, so she was unarmed when the butterflies were picking targets.
 
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Silco was a monster who used monstrous methods. He used child labour, peddled drugs that utterly ruined people mentally and physically, and ruled the underworld with fear and an iron fist. He killed and ruined the lives of countless people to achieve his dream of an independent, sovereign Undercity.

And he so very nearly succeeded.

But for one thing: his precious Jinx.

When faced with the corpse of his underling's son, his response is a cold, unconvincing, boilerplate statement of sympathy, immediately followed by the fact that the child should have been glad to die for a good cause. He doesn't really care. Why would he? He's thrown so many others to the wolves for the sake of his plans.

And he has everything he's been working towards for decades handed to him on a silver platter. Jayce - arguably the single most influental member of the council at that point - agrees to everything. Independence. Sovereignity. Access to the Hex Gates and the economic opportunites they present. A signed peace. And, incredibly, the Council is willing to go along with it.

There's just one more person he needs to throw under the bus. One more, among however many thousands who's lives he's ruined and ended. Jinx herself.

And he can't do it. He even tries to assume resonsibility for Jinx's actions - ironically one of the only things he's not responsible for, given how much of a loose cannon she is. But that improves impossible, and Silco finds himself backed into a corner: sacrifice his dreams, or sacrifice Jinx. He chooses to sacrifice his dreams.


And so, the tragic irony of Silco is that he was unable to realize the outcome of his decades-long plans...because he was not quite ruthless and monstrous enough.
 
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Mechasaurian said:
Silco was a monster who used monstrous methods. He used child labour, peddled drugs that utterly ruined people mentally and physically, and ruled the underworld with fear and an iron fist. He killed and ruined the lives of countless people to achieve his dream of an independent, sovereign Undercity
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the amount of woobiefiction Silco gets from the fandom while at the same time demonizes Mel is pretty infuriating.
 
Mechasaurian said:
Silco was a monster who used monstrous methods. He used child labour, peddled drugs that utterly ruined people mentally and physically, and ruled the underworld with fear and an iron fist. He killed and ruined the lives of countless people to achieve his dream of an independent, sovereign Undercity.

And he so very nearly succeeded.

But for one thing: his precious Jinx.

When faced with the corpse of his underling's son, his response is a cold, unconvincing, boilerplate statement of sympathy, immediately followed by the fact that the child should have been glad to die for a good cause. He doesn't really care. Why would he? He's thrown so many others to the wolves for the sake of his plans.

And he has everything he's been working towards for decades handed to him on a silver platter. Jayce - arguably the single most influental member of the council at that point - agrees to everything. Independence. Sovereignity. Access to the Hex Gates and the economic opportunites they present. A signed peace. And, incredibly, the Council is willing to go along with it.

There's just one more person he needs to throw under the bus. One more, among however many thousands who's lives he's ruined and ended. Jinx herself.

And he can't do it. He even tries to assume resonsibility for Jinx's actions - ironically one of the only things he's not responsible for, given how much of a loose cannon she is. But that improves impossible, and Silco finds himself backed into a corner: sacrifice his dreams, or sacrifice Jinx. He chooses to sacrifice his dreams.


And so, the tragic irony of Silco is that he was unable to realize the outcome of his decades-long plans...because he was not quite ruthless and monstrous enough.
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I don't think it was because he wasn't "monstrous enough".
No, instead the story told pointed more to Silco finally understanding Vander's reason.
He finally began to understand why Vander hung up the gauntlets and "give up the fight".
Silco, like Vander, had found something he did not want to lose.

"What are you willing to lose?"
Vander was not willing to lose the kids. To let them die for this fight.
Silco was not willing to lose Jinx. To hand off the girl he raised and guided for nearly a decade.
And this is the dilemma Vi is finding herself in. She could regain the sister she loves and wants to return to the good old days with, but in turn would have to lose the one good Enforcer/Piltie that she add befriended, fallen for, and was saved by. She could forge a new path forward and find peace, safety, and tender love and care that she never had before by going with Caitlyn, but in turn would lose the sister she fought and lived for for so long on top of feeling like she turned her back on her city, her people, and all she had known.

"Is there nothing as undoing as a daughter?"
There is hardly anything as undoing as ones love for another.
After all, we are a social species. We are only human.
 
Pugman said:
I don't think it was because he wasn't "monstrous enough".
No, instead the story told pointed more to Silco finally understanding Vander's reason.
He finally began to understand why Vander hung up the gauntlets and "give up the fight".
Silco, like Vander, had found something he did not want to lose.

"What are you willing to lose?"
Vander was not willing to lose the kids. To let them die for this fight.
Silco was not willing to lose Jinx. To hand off the girl he raised and guided for nearly a decade.
And this is the dilemma Vi is finding herself in. She could regain the sister she loves and wants to return to the good old days with, but in turn would have to lose the one good Enforcer/Piltie that she add befriended, fallen for, and was saved by. She could forge a new path forward and find peace, safety, and tender love and care that she never had before by going with Caitlyn, but in turn would lose the sister she fought and lived for for so long on top of feeling like she turned her back on her city, her people, and all she had known.

"Is there nothing as undoing as a daughter?"
There is hardly anything as undoing as ones love for another.
After all, we are a social species. We are only human.
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Vi couldn't ever regain powder. The dynamic of their relationship five years ago is forever gone. No amount of killing or letting caitlyn die would save it because jinx isn't the same person as she was.
 
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