The Argent-Eyed Heiress (Naruto/Exalted)

1)Warrior culture is not the same thing as honorable combat.

The Vikings were often raiders and brigands, they did not stand around to fight honorable battles, but were just as likely to climb in your city at night and gut you while you're sleeping. The Japanese samurai during the Sengoku Jidai era literally breathed treason and betrayal, and did their very best to avoid anything remotely resembling "honorable combat". The Apache were adept at ambush and counter-ambush, and certainly did not announce themselves.

Nothing says warrior cultures do not value results over form. Hyuga are ninja after all.

2) Because in canon, strength and skill were the primary requirements for the Hyuuga, and why Hinata had trouble in her younger days. We see this reiterated when Hiashi was watching Neji fight in the chuunin exams.
Similarly, in this quest, the literal test of adulthood, to speak and be heard in clan councils, is a series of fights, not an endurance race, or the ability to learn a book, or to draw a seal.

3) Because heredity is stable.
And we have yet to see any clan head that has managed to hold his post without being the best his clan has to offer.
It's especially notable that Neji is regarded to be a prodigy for being the first time a branch house member surpassed a main house peer.

4) Yes. Those people are called dependants.
Valuable and as important as they are, they do not control the House, because you need to have the respect of the people at the sharp end of the stick.
There is a reason why literally every clan head we've ever seen has been the deadliest, nastiest specimen that clan has been able to produce in his prime.



2.) All of which can be bullshit via ritualization, I mean seriously, do you honestly think anyone wins all the fights in a senbon sparring session without some sort of trick or people going easy on them?

Hinata in her younger days was a literal child, she wouldn't have had any strength or skill from the get go, nobody does. What hindered her was a lack of the 'proper hyuuga' attitude early on which, boosted by a cold former brother figure prodigy, lead to delays in her expected progression that then spiraled into a brutal negative feedback loop.

The hyuuga emphasize combat skills now, when the clan head has to look strong as the head of the clan in konoha, like I said it would have been a change that came about because of Konoha. Given how the Senju and the Uchiha had powerful legendary warriors for their clan heads, the head family would have had to become more focused on direct combat just to not look weak in comparison.

Furthermore I never said that Main branches didn't know how to fight, just that they weren't sent into enemy territory on a routine basis, being the trainers and Jutsu creators would have made them if anything the BEST fighters in the clan, on average. The manager focused ones probably less so but two out of three is still better than half.

The hyuuga clan head would probably have to do all of those things.

You're right that clan heads tend to be portrayed as the epitome of their clans, or at least as being able to fake it. Some of the complaints people have about some of the characters being over specialized could well be because they're trained to emphasize their clan techniques since they have to rep the clan harder than normal members.

However you'll also notice that Clan heads don't spend a lot of time on casual missions, they shift focus to administrative or in village tasks because they have to be near the clan to run the clan. So yes, the guys staying home to run the damn clan can in fact boss around the guys with the spears, even without a brain eating seal.

Hell that may be how the trouble started for the hyuuga, a clan head came along that didn't have the respect of the branches and kicked this whole shitshow off.

There are literally dozens of ways to arrange things so the clan head's line doesn't appear weak even if they aren't the best fighters and assassins in the clan, even with the damned eyes in play.

The hyuuga head can't afford to look weak, it's not the same as having to be the best fighter.

3.) No it is not, heredity's inherent INSTABILITY is the cause for a whole lot of drama in both real life history and fiction.

What heredity is, is simple, easy to track and define (compared to the other options), and lazy.

4.) Ummmm Not every 'warrior culture' is structured like that, in fact most aren't. You can't have ultimate authority invested in people who AREN'T THERE most of the time. As such the highest position is usually that of king or general of generals who doesn't see a lot of time on the actual battlefield barring major happenings or last ditch efforts. Vikings were ruled by elders who didn't go on raids most of the time for example, they had gone on raids in the past, but at some point before they got dead they managed to grab onto a job or money that allowed them to stay home and start politicking instead of raiding.

The main branch would probably have served a period of time in the military arm of the clan, but they would not have been sent on courier jobs or isolated patrols, they would have been kept where the branches could keep an eye on them so that people couldn't kidnap them, after a few years, before they got slowed down and killed by age related issues they would have been moved to another task back within the secure holdings like admin, R&D, or training, while branches would stay in the military and keep serving until they died or reached enough wear and tear and/or status as an individual that they were no longer expected to fight as a routine matter, but they would have had to earn it the hard way, rather than getting an easy out.

That way the Main branches have a military record for the spear carriers to respect but still end up having most of the jobs that let them hone their skills and power bases without risking themselves in direct combat away from home most of their lives. I think you'll find that most 'warrior' cultures have something like this set up.

Because spying on a powerful clan in his own village for no reason makes no sense. Being a spy doesn't mean spying on everything and everyone nor does he seem to care to. He is one man and likely has way better things to do with his time like doing mission on actual rival nations.

Learning about the internal works of a clan would valuable information for say the Hokage, or any other political actors Jiraiya might support.
 
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Jiraiya's literal first technique was a spying technique, mentioned during his genin test.
If offending powerful clans never stopped him from spying on them in the baths, inquiring into their secrets is not going to faze him. He's S-class; the fuck do you want to do about it? Even the Elders of the village, when they found him spying on baths, didn't do shit.

As for why he would do it?
You DO remember that Orochimaru did his bullshit in private in this village?

Spying on the womans bath likely isn't seen anywhere near as serious as stealing clan secrets which are vital to ninja. Stealing clan secrets is the kind of thing that usually ends up with ninja dead and sent hunter nin after them. I imagine that the reason people tolerate the peeping was that he S-Class but it wasn't seen as that serious and more of an annoyance, him stealing clan secrets would be a far more serious matter.

And are you seriously comparing other ninja to Oro? The guy who did some seriously messed up shit that got him labeled a rogue ninja. He also actually had a reason for doing that kind of thing which tied into his research.
 
From a military secrets stand point.... maybe. Remember while the clans want to keep their secrets the Hokage's office needs to know at least the general outlines of those secrets in order to effectively place assets, and well I can imagine clans whose physical forms are part of their clan secrets and may have private baths the they'd want to keep Jiraiya far away from. The fact that Jiraiya doesn't value people's expectation of privacy enough to not leer at the women's baths is a character flaw, a flaw that can be extrapolated to mean he most likely doesn't value that expectation whatsoever. So while he'll be more discreet with clan secrets and such, odds are that he's got lots of them squirreled away in his head somewhere, and likely made them available to the Third and Fourth Hokages.
 
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2.) All of which can be bullshit via ritualization,
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Is most definitely not ritualization. Read the previous update. The Branch House test the Main House candidate.

Age is no excuse. I explicitly remember the scene where Hiashi gave Hinata into Kurenai's care, and how he talked. I remember Hizashi getting pissed enough at her performance compared to his son that was sealed that he gave off killing intent. There's expected performance for her age; she wasn't making it.

Hyuuga live in a village now, with allies to take the pressure off having to handle everything for themselves, and their clan heads are still the deadliest in the clan. In the Warring Clans era, when it was every clan for themselves, no allies other than people like the Nara, everyone would have been liable for battlefield service. And yet that was when the Main/Branch split came from.

In Naruto, there is no split between trainers/jutsu creators and battlefield ninja, presumably because you need the battlefield experience to figure out what works. Every major technique of note we know of came from a terror of the battlefield, not some REMF.

Warrior cultures led from the front. Especially in neo-medieval cultures, because no one could afford the long delays in communications when the fastest means of sending messages was a courier on a horse. This would be multiplied in the Narutoverse, where power is in the man, not the tools.
In Naruto, there's a reason the Kage is the baddest guy in the village. Power talks.

Spying on the womans bath likely isn't seen anywhere near as serious as stealing clan secrets which are vital to ninja.
Which part of S-class spymaster are you not getting? The fuck are they going to do about it?
There's a reason why Hinata in this Quest is being allowed to go hang with the fifty-some year old womanizer, regardless of propriety.
Why people talk to him in terms of requests, not orders, why people like Ebisu call him Lord after he KOs them for interrupting his peep time.

The very best they will do is request that he keep it to himself. He's not spreading it around is the most you can ask for, because you cannot meaningfully sanction him.
 
From a military secrets stand point.... maybe. Remember while the clans want to keep their secrets the Homage's office needs to know at least the general outlines of those secrets in order to effectively place assets, and well I can imagine clans whose physical forms are part of their clan secrets and may have private baths the they'd want to keep Jiraiya far away from. The fact that Jiraiya doesn't value people's expectation of privacy enough to not leer at the women's baths is a character flaw, a flaw that can be extrapolated to mean he most likely doesn't value that expectation whatsoever. SO while he'll be more discreet with can secrets and such, odds are that he's got lots of them squirreled away in his head somewhere, and likely made them available to the Third and Fourth Hokage.

Don't think that makes sense. Just because he doesn't care about womens privacy doesn't mean he doesn't care about clan secrets. Like I said it likely isn't seen as a big deal for Jirya to peep on women since as an S-Class ninja that's pretty benign to what he could do. But stealing clan secrets is something even Jirya realises is actually pretty serious and maybe doesn't think it's worth the trouble.

As been noted in this quest politics with ninja clans is pretty important and it would likely be a political shit storm if it got out that there that someone in the village was stealing clan secrets from their own countrymen considering that clans that join villages would be severely against people pulling that shit and were likely assured that that kind of thing would not happen.

Also even if the hokage did want to know about the Hyuuga physical records they would have likely just asked Tsunade about it since she may likely have the records. Even then those kind of records seem like they would be kept somewhere even an S-Class would have immense trouble getting into to prevent other S-Class threats from other villages from just being able to easily steal clan secrets like that.

There is also the problem of how unrealistic it would be for Jiraiya to know every single clan secret. Not to mention the issues that would come with an S-Class who knows every single clan secret going rogue and how the villages would likely want to mitigate the fallout of something like that happening which means that they would not want one guy having too many state secrets considering how much damage they can do.

Finally when it comes down to it Jiraiya may not just care enough to bother trying to find out every clan secret considering that no matter what people think spying and doing ninja work eats up time and him likely wanting to avoid any potential political shit storms. Time which would be better spent actually doing his job or things he actually wants to do.

Which part of S-class spymaster are you not getting? The fuck are they going to do about it?
There's a reason why Hinata in this Quest is being allowed to go hang with the fifty-some year old womanizer, regardless of propriety.
Why people talk to him in terms of requests, not orders, why people like Ebisu call him Lord after he KOs them for interrupting his peep time.

The very best they will do is request that he keep it to himself. He's not spreading it around is the most you can ask for, because you cannot meaningfully sanction him.

S-Class' can't just get away with every single thing just because they are S-Class'. There is a canon example of a group of rogue S-Class ninja who have been exiled from their village.
 
The guy who literally spies on women in the bath thinks people have any expectation of privacy?
Pull the other one.

One of the first things that medical techniques do is analyse the body's state.
We see Tsunade deliver a report on chakra network injury to Naruto after he first used the Rasenshuriken.
So no, you don't need to see them to diagnoze issues with them.
Is the just a then thing? Becuase Tsunade is hardly a good benchmark for 'normal'.
 
S-Class' can't just get away with every single thing just because they are S-Class'. There is a canon example of a group of rogue S-Class ninja who have been exiled from their village.
What are they going to do about it?

There is a very limited list of things that S-class ninja will do that bring actual repercussions. Danzo masterminded the death of the Uchiha clan without orders. Tsunade fucked off for at least a decade, possibly more, and had to be literally begged to return to become Kage. Jiraiya shows up in Konoha and ignores Sarutobi, not reporting in. Killer Bee fakes his own death and goes off to meet an enka singer while his village panics.

There are no consequences for any of that shit. The idea that they're going to start now is risible.
You keep making a big deal of clan secrets. They're clan secrets. All clans have secrets.
So? If he's not blabbing it about, what are you going to do? Complain that he's ferreted out a secret and tell that there was a secret to discover in the first place?

How would you even know he was in your archives if he left no trace?

And I will note that people don't complain about the Hyuga, who can literally sit a kilometer off and watch you sex your wife in your bedroom, transcribe the contents of your diary, or read your lips while you're in a meeting with the elders of your clan.Of all the people with concerns about clan secrets, the Hyuga have less room to talk than most.

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Is the just a then thing? Becuase Tsunade is hardly a good benchmark for 'normal'.
No Tsunade isn't.
But there is no indication that she did anything out of the ordinary there; Sakura and Shizune were both at that meeting IIRC, and neither of them commented on this being extraordinary detail of any sort.

Then there's Sasori, who while S-class, is not a medic, and still manages to make human puppets with such precision that their chakra network remains intact enough to use jutsu.
 
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What are they going to do about it?

There is a very limited list of things that S-class ninja will do that bring actual repercussions. Danzo masterminded the death of the Uchiha clan without orders. Tsunade fucked off for at least a decade, possibly more, and had to be literally begged to return to become Kage. Jiraiya shows up in Konoha and ignores Sarutobi, not reporting in. Killer Bee fakes his own death and goes off to meet an enka singer while his village panics.

There are no consequences for any of that shit. The idea that they're going to start now is risible.
You keep making a big deal of clan secrets. They're clan secrets. All clans have secrets.
So?

First off even if Danzo masterminded that he didn't actually do anything until he got approval from the rest of the heads of the village. Meanwhile the other actions you stated didn't actually have the S-Class people cause any trouble for the their village beyond being an inconvinience. Tsunade while leaving didn't cause any trouble for the village, Jiraiya not reporting in didn't cause any trouble and the Hokage was his old master so he was probably lax over something so minor. For Killer B while he did cause some panic should be noted that he was practically the brother of kage and he didn't cause any direct harm to his village and he was liked by the village.

Meanwhile you are treating things like there wouldn't be any consequences for actions which is ridiculous. Clan secrets are pretty important for clans and some may even reveal weaknesses which can be a serious issues for some clans especially if they find out that there is someone from their own village stealing all the clan secrets for no reason. If that kind of thing happened IRL you can bet there would be serious political issues.

And I will note that people don't complain about the Hyuga, who can literally sit a kilometer off and watch you sex your wife in your bedroom, transcribe the contents of your diary, or read your lips while you're in a meeting with the elders of your clan.Of all the people with concerns about clan secrets, the Hyuga have less room to talk than most.

Going to point out that that would be extremely unfair to the Hyuuga since they are literally born with that ability and didn't ask for it. Many of them would also probably be disgusted with any of their own being a peeping Tom. It would be discrimination to treat all Hyuuga negatively just because of what some people may do.
 
First off even if Danzo masterminded that he didn't actually do anything until he got approval from the rest of the heads of the village.
No he didn't.
He didn't get approval before murdering Shisui. He didn't get approval before coercing Itachi. He did not get approval before ordering the Massacre.
If that kind of thing happened IRL you can bet there would be serious political issues.
RL does not have magical warriors who wield the firepower of entire divisions in their person.
Going to point out that that would be extremely unfair to the Hyuuga since they are literally born with that ability
And Jiraiya is born with his curiosity. So?
I really don't see why you think fairness has anything to do with this.
 
No he didn't.
He didn't get approval before murdering Shisui. He didn't get approval before coercing Itachi. He did not get approval before ordering the Massacre.

Okay, but should be pointed out that he did a ton of unethical shit the hokage would likely have not wanted done and his actions ending up biting him in the ass down the line.

And Jiraiya is born with his curiosity. So?
I really don't see why you think fairness has anything to do with this.

Less fairness and them pointing out how bullshit it would be that they would get less freedom and privacy just because a few of their members may abuse their eyes.

RL does not have magical warriors who wield the firepower of entire divisions in their person.

And? Being S-Class does not make you invinceable and it doesn't mean that their actions couldn't piss people off.
 
Anyway, lovely writing @FixerUpper
Omake reward possibilities include
-rounding up Hinata's Appearance to 3(thematic purposes after surviving the Tower mission resulting in a boost of confidence and improved carriage)
-minor Exalted artifact(no more than 1 dot eg Perfected Boots, Omnimodal Wardrobe/Transformative Clothing,Collar of Cleansing Light
- XP
-Ally possibility
Whoa. Any of those rewards would be great. :whistle:

I mean, if I had to choose, I'd probably go for a minor Exalted artifact, because I think it would be funny if these wondrous items started appearing out of nowhere and Hinata had no idea where they were coming from.

HINATA: 'Who... who keeps leaving these amazing gifts in my room? D-do I have a secret admirer?'

I dunno, it's up to the QM. Hey, FixerUpper, did you ever decide what rewards you were going to give for omakes?

@Chandagnac: Thank you so much for that omake! I still owe you commentary and other stuff, I swear once this hell week is over I will make good on it.
Hmm. I guess not.

Well, this update was a doozie to write.
No vote, this time?

Well, anyway, I've very much enjoyed reading the past few chapters of this quest, but I don't have that much to say about them that hasn't already been said. I'll keep reading.

I've previously mentioned that I really like how FixerUpper has blended together the worlds of Naruto and Exalted together in this quest. They go together very well: the join is almost seamless. So I've been thinking about how the Exalted mythos might have influenced the development of the Naruto world on a larger scale. I couldn't get much mileage out of this (because I don't know Exalted as well as I'd like) but here's a short snippet I imagine might have been written by a traveling scholar in the world of The Argent-Eyed Heiress:

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Altered Geography
In the west, beyond the mountains of the Land of Earth, past the thick forests of the Land of Bears, there you'll find the Land of Dragons, where the people worship five legendary dragons, the Genryū, whom they believe blessed their lands with exceptional fertility. Also, the Genryū are said to have blessed certain noble families with unearthly powers corresponding to the five elements. The most renowned ninja clans of the Land of Dragons all trace their bloodline limits back to the blessing of the Genryū.

Far to the south-east, beyond the Land of Wave and the Land of Sea, you'll find the fabulously wealthy Land of Moon. The people of this small island nation credit their prosperity to their worship of the Moon Goddess: a many-faced trickster, shapeshifter, and warrior, who rewards her followers with remarkable good luck while cursing her enemies with madness and misfortune. There is an old legend that one day the Moon Goddess will send a human champion to lead her faithful servants to glory.

Across the eastern sea, past the bucolic fruitfulness of the Land of Bean Jam (called the "Land of Candy" by some translators), past the agrarian plains of the Land of Vegetables, past the untamed wilderness of the Land of Wolves, past the sickly marshes of the Land of Swamps, even past the dreaded Oni Province, there you'll find the land where the sun first rises in the morning: a land of marvels and wonders, a land that most scholars have dismissed as 'only a legend', the Land of Dinosaurs That Piss Heroin.

Only three paragraphs? Yeah, like I said, I couldn't get much mileage out of this. Besides, it was all building up to the silly joke at the end. I didn't want to go on for too long.

Paragraph 1: Yeah, apparently the Exalted Dragon-Blooded get their powers from the five elemental dragons created by Gaia. But the Naruto-verse also has five elemental dragons, called the Genryū, who are basically the same. I'm guessing that both sets of dragons were inspired by the same real-world legend, but it's not one I'm familiar with. So, I guess it would be really easy to justify including Dragon-Blooded Exalted in the Naruto setting.
EDIT: I thought that was from one of the Naruto movies? Ugh, never mind. It's from one of the videogames, so... tertiary canon?
Paragraph 2: Because the Land of Moon (i.e. the Crescent Moon Kingdom?) exists in the Naruto-verse, I wanted to link it to Exalted's Luna.
Paragraph 3: You may think that I wrote this whole snippet just because I wanted to make this joke. And you'd be right.

EDIT: Oops. Silly rewriting mistake - "fertilised their lands with exceptional fertility"? I've changed it now. :oops:
 
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Ah, yes. The Beasts of Resplendent Liquid.

I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop, honestly.

When the Sidereal/Abyssal/Infernal shows up and ruins Hinata's day.
 
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Is most definitely not ritualization. Read the previous update. The Branch House test the Main House candidate.

Age is no excuse. I explicitly remember the scene where Hiashi gave Hinata into Kurenai's care, and how he talked. I remember Hizashi getting pissed enough at her performance compared to his son that was sealed that he gave off killing intent. There's expected performance for her age; she wasn't making it.

Hyuuga live in a village now, with allies to take the pressure off having to handle everything for themselves, and their clan heads are still the deadliest in the clan. In the Warring Clans era, when it was every clan for themselves, no allies other than people like the Nara, everyone would have been liable for battlefield service. And yet that was when the Main/Branch split came from.

In Naruto, there is no split between trainers/jutsu creators and battlefield ninja, presumably because you need the battlefield experience to figure out what works. Every major technique of note we know of came from a terror of the battlefield, not some REMF.

Warrior cultures led from the front. Especially in neo-medieval cultures, because no one could afford the long delays in communications when the fastest means of sending messages was a courier on a horse. This would be multiplied in the Narutoverse, where power is in the man, not the tools.
In Naruto, there's a reason the Kage is the baddest guy in the village. Power talks.

Which part of S-class spymaster are you not getting? The fuck are they going to do about it?
There's a reason why Hinata in this Quest is being allowed to go hang with the fifty-some year old womanizer, regardless of propriety.
Why people talk to him in terms of requests, not orders, why people like Ebisu call him Lord after he KOs them for interrupting his peep time.

The very best they will do is request that he keep it to himself. He's not spreading it around is the most you can ask for, because you cannot meaningfully sanction him.

Look either senbon sparring takes place over an extended period of time, on the order of months (in which case taking a break to go on an actual effing mission should have been no problem), or there's some trick to it, because (with the possible exception of Naruto) there's nobody in Konoha who has the kind of stamina required to survive, much less put up a decent performance in 900+ spars in succession unless most of their opponents are lowballing, or just that much weaker so the person being tested doesn't have to expend any real effort to beat them.

Age is no excuse? What are you talking about? Babies have no skills, even prodigy babies have no skills. HInata was what, three years old when the shit went down. The fact that she could do taijutsu recognizably enough to be awful at it would have been a miracle of chakra powered development. Hizashi didn't hate her because she was bad at Jyuuken compared to Neji, he hated that talent and hard work didn't matter, or maybe he hated that Hinata's birthday was soon and that Neji would be sealed or had been recently sealed. I can think of a lot of reasons for a branch member to hate ANY main brancher. What put Hinata's reputation on the rocks wasn't being bad at three years old, It was the poor progress from that point, likely caused by the boiler room of tensions and guilt that her family became in the aftermath of the Kumo incident.

Konoha has been around for 70 something years, the Hyuuga bloodline is thousands of years old, possibly older than the So6P, they're not going to immediately update everything just because they joined a village. Hell they wouldn't even know what all needs updating for the first hundred years or so. If anything joining the village is what allowed them to have main branches become dedicated field ninja. It gave them more allies, more infrastructure, and more political clout. Furthermore AGAIN just because someone is 'on tap' for military service doesn't mean that's their primary job. A drill instructor is military, a general is military, a military surgeon is military, but none of them are routinely sent to the frontline, granted ninja battles may well not have a front line per say and so everyone needs to be trained up to a certain standard, but you can't have everyone be 'all fighting all the time' you can't support a tribe, much less a clan, that way.

I don't understand why this is hard to grasp, did Kakashi walk out of the village dragging team 7 to go assassinate bandit lords and body guard daimyo as soon as the bell test was over? NO! He kept them in the village for weeks, maybe months doing pissant chore missions and training them up to the point they wouldn't die the moment some random chunin sneezed on them. That's what being a trainer looks like, you stay in secured areas until your charges are at least able to fake being ready to head out. It's the perfect job for a 'warrior' culture's elite who need to stay in shape but also need to be near the home stead to actually run the clan. Same for people creating new jutsu, a few years on the front, preferably in places where there were plenty of branch members around (so more time on the big battles lines and less time in the skulky sneaky stuff, which probably made them sound even better since they were the equivalent of frontline troops since that was th best way to prevent a kidnapping, place them deep in the heart of the fight where the overlapping byakugan would catch everything), and then they'd start focusing on making new jutsu or figuring out how to train/do the old ones better.

I never claimed the main branch didn't fight! I'm saying they would have been eventually promoted to positions in or around the secured clan holdings, and during their early years kept in squads that didn't go off on their own much, generally acting as part of larger operations, rather than left at border outposts, long range courier jobs, or put on long-term envoy missions in places where the Hyuuga couldn't guarantee security.

And your argument about needing people on the scene cuts both ways. The clan leaders need to be able to lead the clan, not just the units currently in combat. You'll notice that Hokage don't spend a lot of time doing b-rank body guard work. They don't rush out of the village to rescue every genin team or chunin squad that gets in over their heads. Yes the hokage are powerful fighters who need to step out and slap a bitch down occasionally, but they still spend a lot if not most of their time in or near the village. During an all out war that might shift some, but not for routine battles and missions.

The main branch weren't pampered and kept from harm. They were kept in areas where it was hard to kidnap them, the goal probably wasn't to save their lives at all costs, it was likely to keep them from getting kidnapped and used as breeding stock by other clans. So they would have been sent on missions and into battles, just into the missions and battles where they were more likely to end up dead than isolated. Then as the survivors got older they would be moved into various positions in and around the secure holdings of the clan, such as clan head, or trainers, or archivists, etc.
 
FULL MOON re-write
Someone recently poked me about this quest and unlike my other efforts, I am actively embarrassed by how it began and reasonably satisfied as to where it ended up.

So, uh, re-write.

My writing time is increasingly being swallowed by the realities of adult life so expect infrequent outbursts of this sort. There are no voting options, it's just one of those: 'I could be doing things that society deems important, plz validate my unmonetized writing hobby.'

Or don't. Past history shows that my muse only cares up to the point where things get tough which is kiiiiind of useless.

Note: Keep reading, it goes full moon.

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Hinata fell.

It was not a good fall. Her hands were numb: she couldn't catch herself and her face banged against the ground with jarring force.

She lay there, dazed, then coughed, once, twice, and forced herself to rise, trembling, fingers leaving a tracery of blood against a block of limestone green floor. Above, in the sparsely inhabited stands, the only spectators were her fellow genin, the judges and the instructors. They were deathly quiet.

"Why do you stand?" cousin Neji asked.

Hinata sucked in a greedy breath and rose slowly, creakingly up past her knees. Her limbs were aflame as she took up the classic stance: muscles deprived of chakra acted very nearly like muscles deprived of oxygen; her eyes, meanwhile, were painfully hot, coils pulsing with pent-up energy. Breathing hurt. She knew what a healthy heart looked like. Hers was not. It beat sluggish, irregular, too many associated tenketsu plugged, pressure uneven and dangerously unsteady.

When she coughed, the spittle which dribbled down her chin was bloody.

"If you keep pushing yourself, you'll die," cousin Neji said.

Maybe, thought Hinata, trying not to gasp for breath. But the difference was today was, someone important was watching her. The difference today was-

"YOU CAN DO IT, HINATA!!!!"a blond boy screamed from the stands.

-the difference today was, she wasn't going to give up.

She smiled as her opponent ground his teeth, annoyed.

They rushed at each other once more, two users of the gentle fist. It was almost a dance. Strike, block, strike, block, back and forth, no strength wasted, no savage blows, just violence and energy exchanged with painful precision. With her own chakra mostly inaccessible, she could not attack, but she could deflect. Three exchanges passed, then four, then, upon the fifth, when hope had stirred, when she began to think of what she could do with the tools at hand, she felt a blow spike through her guard, hit her chest and something went ba-dump and ruptured.

Once more, she felt a moment lacking weight, followed by a bruising impact against the ground. Her heart stuttered agonizingly in her chest.

"You don't understand anything," her opponent said, coldly contemptuous. "From the beginning, your attacks have done nothing."

'I know,' she wanted to say. 'That's not the point,' she wanted to say. 'I need to change,' she wanted to say. 'I have changed,' she wanted to say. Instead, she struggled back to her feet, taking long, long seconds to pick herself up. Her vision wavered.

"It's not over…"

His eyes were cold. "It is. You can barely stand. You can only push yourself so far. It is time to admit it: you are weak, Hinata Hyuuga. You are weak and this will not change. People do not change. That is your Destiny. Let go of your suffering."

Her knees buckled. She wanted to. Truly, she did. What would Naruto say? Probably 'That's crap!' or 'If that's Destiny, I'll beat it to a pulp!'

But she couldn't refute cousin Neji. Not like that.

"Aren't you…" her voice cracked and broke into a long series of bloody coughs, echoed by the proctor. "Aren't you the one suffering the most… cousin Neji?"

Neji snapped, hands blurring with a blue haze of chakra as he sprinted towards her.

Four jounins leaped to stop him.

Inconceivably, they failed. The blow stopped her heart, and sent her spinning to the ground, in so much pain all she could do was try to breathe. Four jounin were wrapped around him and spoke in that very calm, very even way that suggested they were fine when they most definitely were not and even cousin Neji seemed to be in shock.

As she struggled, Hinata wondered, distantly: 'I hope… I…'

Then she took her Second Breath.

It was like breathing in the world.

Energy suffused her limbs while wild, impossible memories attacked her mind's eye. She coughed, spraying blood across the ground. A cold, silvery heat kindled itself near her heart. She didn't know how, but the world changed.

Fingers slammed into stone.

"It's… not… over…"she panted.

"Hinata," Kurenai said, as alarmed and relieved as she had ever heard her jounin-sensei, turning away from Neji whom she held, "you need to-"

The words died away, stillborn.

Hinata rose. Leaking through the pores of her skin, silver light eddied from her like smoke out of a pipe. Her chakra coils, usually a soft lavender, had been choked off by Cousin Neji's barrage of attacks, began to be overlaid by a network of silver that started near her heart and quickly spiraled throughout her body.

It was chakra, but not. Something else. Something more.

With a sound like a cork popping, she felt one of her tenketsu flare open, the plug formed by Cousin Neji's chakra unable to stay closed in the presence of so much raw power. Then, like it had released the floodgates, one by one they all started to go. Cousin Neji's eyes widened.

"Maa, this is embarrassing," said Naruto's jounin-sensei, a book in one hand, the other clamped around Neji's wrist.

She took an unsteady step forward. The jounin-senseis relaxed, let go.

"It's not over," she growled.

"FUCK HIM UP!" Kiba shouted excitedly while Shino whispered encouragement, below his breath.

"GET HIM! HINATA!!!!" screamed Naruto.

She wiped the blood beading at her lip, smiled and set herself back into her familiar stance.

Silver and lavender fire poured out of her soul.

----

The first blow knocked Neji off his feet and nearly into the stands.

There had been no art to the blow, just simple, decisive strength.

"You-"

She didn't give him time to voice the mingled fear and outrage in his eyes. Always, she had fought him on the back foot, one step behind, too weak, too timid, too slow.

Not anymore.

She jumped – too far, too fast – the ground beneath her feet rising in a cloud of expanding yellow-brown dust, pelting her feet with shards of the great big cobblestones that underlaid the arena. Wind and noise howled into the stands, blowing back hair and loose clothes, and causing several of the spectators to put their arms up to shield their eyes.

Their loss.

She hit him again.

It had been an impossible blow, delivered before the consequences of the last had been fully realized, from a distance that exceeded Hinata's physical reach, from a position one could at best call ridiculous.

Neji deflected it.

They landed, near simultaneously, in the stands: Neji gracefully, feet alighting on the fenced railing, chakra permitting him stand perpendicular to the floor, herself crashing through it to land with bruising force on the wall, cracks radiating from her feet, shards of plaster and dust speckling her clothes.

"Holy shitting-" said a heavily bandaged sound genin, the last man standing in his team, his one eye widening visibly as he reared – oh so slowly - away

Before she could apologize, Neji was upon her, forcing her to guard as his fingers slammed into her suddenly upraised arm, a plug of his chakra seeking and failing to find purchase among her tenketsu. Her leg swept out instinctively moving to deny him his ground, he hopped over it, sending another barrage of gentle fist strikes her way as he did so.

"Cousin Neji," she bit out, fist shining with argent light, blood dribbling down a corner of her mouth, canines sharper and longer than she remembered, "that - that will not work anymore."

His eyes widened, then, as if caught in such a disgraceful act, narrowed in concentration.

She punched.

Distantly she saw the Sound-genin, caught in the wake of her attack, get blown backwards as parts of the fenced railing crumpled, dry paint and plaster cracking off the wall in fist-sized chunks, the sheer physical might of her blow an attack all of its own.

Neji caught it again, deflecting it sideways, his blue-white chakra hazing the air. Passing air ruffled his long hair.

She stared.

He punished her for her audacity to spend her limited attention so frivolously, his hand curled up into a fist as it slammed into her solar plexus. Air exploded past her lips as she sailed out of the Sound stands: his punch had nowhere near the strength of her own, but he was a genius and his jounin-sensei a superlative taijutsu master. His form was perfect.

She tried to re-orient herself and choked back a cry as, in mid-air, another blow thundered into her back.

This time, when she hit the ground, she felt something crack.

Blurrily, she saw his feet as he landed lightly before her.

Somewhere, Naruto and Kiba were cursing Neji until they were blue in the face, but that was somewhere else, somewhere far, far away, where her heartbeat didn't thunder in her ears, and her own whirlpool of chakra didn't threaten to overwhelm her. Her fingers extended, claw-like, scrabbling slowly at the ground, silver lingering upon her fingertips.

It wasn't over.

It wasn't over.

"You are n-"

The height of rudeness, not to let him finish, not when he had so graciously given her the opportunity to collect herself, but she still launched herself at him.

He was ready for her.

"Kaiten!"

This time, it was her turn to go flying, a pebble caught on the edge of a hurricane. For all his fatalism, for all his hatred, for all his cruelty, she could not help but feel admiration towards her cousin. For Neji to master the heavenly spin, the Hyuuga's ultimate defense without the tutoring of a main branch member, his genius was as vast as hers was shallow.

She flipped in mid-air, landing on her feet, skidding nearly twenty feet as she bled momentum.

Neji regarded her, calm and unperturbed, one arm raised, palm towards her, the other at the level of his waist, the classic beginning pose of the Eight Trigrams Stance.

"I was… wrong. You are not weak, Hinata-sama. If you push yourself any further, I will no longer be able to hold back."

She grinned. Somehow it felt like the chains of the past dozen years had fallen away, leaving her both exposed and liberated, her weaknesses scoured by her new strength. "P-please do not trouble yourself on my account, C-cousin Neji."

"Ha! You tell him!" Kiba shouted.

"Very well. Prepare yourself."

The ground cracked beneath her feet as she shot forwards, her passage digging a furrow into the ground. Neji moved with more grace and less power, the flight of a swallow to her fusillade of fire and thunder.

But that did not make him slower than her. Sometimes a swallow outflew the storm.

While not every blow she dealt left shattered concrete and howling winds in its wake, each had more than enough power to end the fight, whereas his blows were all perfectly normal, all perfectly, painfully average, two users of the gentle fist, forced, for different reasons, to rely on the brute force of a strong fist style, one of them clearly more suited to it than the other.

But for all her strength and fury, she could not touch him.

"You… truly are… amazing… Cousin Neji," she said.

He grunted, dove under another earth-shattering blow, and clipped her chin with a lightning palm thrust that she only barely dodged, before transitioning to a half-kaiten that she was forced to leap away from.

"Why do you rail against your Destiny?"

Their exchange of blows was by now a constant staccato of violence, different from an Academy spar only in their volume and consequence.

"I-" she began. "I… like I said... I want to… change."

A flash of silver fire accompanied her words and fist, following him through an impossible twist in space which he neatly dodged.

"People cannot change."

"You-!"

He kicked her in the midriff, doubling her over and interrupting her outburst. He followed the kick with another: she hit the ground rolling, and made it to her feet in one smooth motion.

"For all your sudden strength you remain the same person. You do not wish to fight, merely impress."

His disgust was very nearly a physical thing, roiling off him in waves.

"No, I-"

"Allow me to show you the difference between us." His stance changed, hands and arms sweeping into a new formation, one she had seen so many times before. Still, there was something subtly different, subtly off about it.

"You are in the range of my divination."

Hinata frowned. "Th-that won't-"

She was struck twice.

Her eyes widened.

Four times.

A dull ache had begun to throb where Neji had hit her.

Eight times.

Pain, minor, annoying, fatally disruptive, erupted like noxious blisters over the surface of her skin.

Sixteen -

Her fist slammed into the side of his face, but not nearly deep enough and by now every move she made tingled with phantom pins and needles as if her limbs had fallen asleep one and all. Still, it interrupted the barrage, forcing him to dance back as he spat a glob of bloody saliva, his sneering smile full of crimson teeth.

"Is this how the Heiress of the Main House fights?"

Hinata didn't answer. She could barely squeeze close her fist it was trembling so badly.

He hadn't blocked her tenketsu, which were as bright as ever, so what was it that Cousin Neji had done?

She breathed in.

Did it matter? She could still move. That meant it wasn't over.

She breathed out.

Slowly, her fists relaxed into open palms. Licking her lip, she swept a shaky leg backwards, raised one hand palm forwards, and kept the other one low, at her waist.

Her cousin breathed deep, flaring his nostrils.

They both kicked off the ground, hurtling towards each other.

-----

Kakashi had both eyes open.

They weren't both his, but life was a bitch like that sometimes. Besides, he could count on the fingers of one hand the number of times he had found it instructive rather than amusing to watch two genins fight.

That the current fight was both, well, that just gave him incentive.

He was one of the few, he knew, who could make out the shape of the young Hyuuga's seething silver chakra, both dark and deep, ancient in a way Naruto's passenger was ancient, horrifying in a way that made Gato's jibe about Zabuza being a baby devil very nearly true, a thing of twisted moonlight and tarnished silver with far too many hideously overgrown teeth and milk-blind eyes.

Curious.

At his side, the Leaf's most surprising genin was busy yelling equal parts encouragement and trash talk while his teammate alternately dunked on him and tried to join in.

Team Guy, despite having an actual teammate down there, was comparatively quiet, Lee watching in rapt attention whereas Tenten was holding on the railing hard enough to make her forearm muscles stand out and leave her knuckles white.

Next to him, Gai said, low: "She has the strength of a Sage."

Kakashi nodded. It was a perfectly fair assessment, if unforgivably incomplete. Like the slug princess on a drunken bender the sheer strength the Hyuuga heiress was mindlessly tossing around was almost as visually impressive as it was excruciating to watch.

In her defense, she did have her moments.

"Have you noticed…?" he began.

A slight, indignant nod of his head – of course he had. Below them, Hinata's fist flickered, folding time and space like an old shirt in its quest to reach her opponent.

At first, he had been certain it was a genjutsu of some sort. As he had continued to watch, it became increasingly clear that every fourth or fifth blow from the Byakugan Princess involved time-and-space taijutsu. He shook his head, sighing to himself. If it had been anyone else…

"What a waste."

Gai tapped the side of his nose knowingly. "I think not."

"Mm?"

"Hers is not the conviction of an idler. It is the raging passion of youth in full bloom!"

Gai's voice, not easily suppressed, was on the upswing when, fortunately, it transitioned into a topic everyone had learned to reflexively ignore.

"Yeah, she is!"

…nearly everyone had learned to reflexively ignore.

Kakashi watched with mounting horror as Naruto and Gai turned towards each other, looking like they would begin the worst sort of alliance. With surgical precision, he cut through their budding bromance.

"You trained your student well," he said, pointing down towards the long-haired Hyuuga, who was currently spinning like the world's most dangerous top.

"You're that bastard's sensei?!" squawked Naruto who could really work on honing his basic observation skills a bit more.

Gai shrugged. "I am. He is much like you your sensei was at his age."

Naruto transferred his outraged look to Kakashi. "An asshole?"

Gai coughed into his fist. "A genius."

"I think I was both those things," put in Kakashi thoughtfully. "It's curious how often they overlap."

Naruto gave that answer a look of such utter contempt that Kakashi probably would have felt hurt if not for the fact that he had confronted Orochimaru not fifteen minutes prior. Good luck getting through that mental trauma, kiddo.

"You're a lazy pervert!"

Owch. Touche, brat, touche.

His fellow jounin-sensei shot him a blinding, twinkle-eyed grin as he then turned to Naruto and said, solemnly: "You would know better than I, my hip and youthful rival's hip and youthful student!"

Naruto seemed oddly embarrassed by this, ducking his head down and gazing back at the ongoing match. A good thing too: the end was approaching. Neither of the two fighters below could maintain this frenetic output: one way or another the battle was going to end.

When it did, with a stupidly fantastic finale, blowing out half the lights in waves of shattered glass and leaving a crater in the middle of the arena that would do credit to a ninja taking their jounin exam, he sighed.

Life was about to become really, really stupid.

-----

Ino had never seen Shikamaru so at a loss for words before, and she'd been there for when Chouji had told them that he was going to teach them his clan's secret techniques in a transparent attempt to trick get them to go to more barbeques.

"What the fuck," he finally said.

"Language," she admonished. Despite her best efforts, there was maybe a shade more spite in there than there should have been. Dear, sweet, forgettable Hinata had gone and left not only the kunoichi, but the rest of their graduating class in the dust. Her own tie with Sakura had become, in one stroke, something of an embarrassment.

Not that she wasn't proud of Forehead Girl – there was a lot to admire there. Konoha didn't raise no quitters.

He sighed, massaging the bridge of his nose. "This is going to be trouble."

"Why?" asked Chouji, good stress munching on chips in the half-dark.

"Well, first, the jounins messed up, stopping the fight before it was actually over."

Oh. Yeah, they had, hadn't they? Even Asuma-sensei, who didn't usually jump the gun like that.

"Second," he gestured towards the opposing stands, "I think Hinata accidentally took out the last Sound genin when they were fighting in the stands."

"There isn't actually a rule against attacking a competitor other than your opponent while fighting in the preliminaries," Ino pointed out.

"Maybe. But it means we're down to three remaining contestants. Lee, that crazy sand guy and Chouji. If it's the redhead-"

"Not fighting him," Chouji mumbled between increasingly frantic munches.

"Good boy. Third, the arena's toast. Not a big deal-" as he spoke, the Hokage slammed his cane into the ground. There was a flash of gold, then a wave rippled out from the impact point, washing through the arena, restoring everything but the most cosmetic of damage in a display of power more impressive than that which had wrecked it. For some reason, there was a scattering of exotic petals floating in the air like the flowery version of a body flicker."Okay, apparently not a deal at all, scratch that."

"Fourth?"

"The Hyuugas tied."

Ino thought back to that ridiculous final exchange.

"So wh-"

Before he could answer her question, the screen announcing the match-ups flickered to life, displaying the names of the next round.

Gaara of the Desert
vs
Chouji Akamichi

The bag in Chouji's hand popped explosively, scattering bits of chip everywhere.
 
Nope, still just a ridiculously powerful ninja.



Is it that much worse? xD

I actually got written into a bit of a corner in Version One after realizing I don't understand how to make the No Moon charms work.
I expect it is more out of joy at seeing this up again.

It is ALWAYS a great joy to see a story once thought dead rise from the grave.... or at least toss and turn in it.
 
Nope, still just a ridiculously powerful ninja.



Is it that much worse? xD

I actually got written into a bit of a corner in Version One after realizing I don't understand how to make the No Moon charms work.
we're glad to have you back, even for only a little bit
(Even if I don't understand Exalted one bit)
 
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