Our father is a secret master of Krav Maga, we can use him for training?
Fun facts for people who don't know Brazil.
I'll decide which subgroup you are after the vote is closed. unless there's a specific option chosen in the winning vote. The main purpose of this vote is to finally give Tommy a physical description; don't want to stretch it out too far.
He runs a bar so German Beer. Not every choice has to be about Tommy. In fact choosing MC's dad's nationality for potential future benefits strikes me as way too gamey.
That's exactly what I mean? Tommy's dad isn't a wrestler. Picking his dad's nationality for benefits to Tommy just rubs me the wrong way especially since it's being done right before he spends time with his dad for the Holiday. I'd much rather pick the vote based on how we see them interacting here and now while Tommy's on a bit of vacation. To me that means a big old German bear of a man running a bar that prides itself on great German beer.
.... Neither was Antonio Inoki's dad. He just had the double gimmick set out for him to get people's attention.
As opposed to just picking him because you want a German daddy and German beer?
This is basically gibberish. There is nothing about his dad being Brazilian or a Brazilian minority that undermines his paternal relationship.
German beer is basically pisswater* given great PR by Oktoberfest. The implication that only Germans can run a bar is therefore invalid. You might as well make the dad generic American if all you want is feelz.
Dude someone found the votes for German unusual after typing out a spiel about how having him Brazilian could help Tommy's career. I explained why I voted German and added that I personally disliked the reasoning that was being used as the most repeated selling point for Brazillian. That's not a knock against people who are sold on it it's a personal opinion. It's okay if you like picking that for this vote. I'm not saying your some monster for it or that your reasons are invalid. I'm saying they don't apply to me because I'm not using that reasoning for this vote because it rubs me the wrong way. I'm going to vote based on my ability to picture and see Tommy's relationship with his dad with the added cultural context this vote adds. That is why I'm voting German and that's what I explained in response to and I'm quoting the dude here "And German. I'm confused. Why?".
You're changing reasoning with each post so I'm just going to quote the last one because you Abandoned the other one.
Maybe but I definitely think you're completely missing the context reason and point of my post especially since the majority of all your posts are going on about what this vote means for Wrestling in the future. My post wasn't for convincing people of shit. Someone said Why German?. I was explaining why I was voting for German. You seem to keep replying to that by going on and on about why you're voting for Brazilian and spending most of it talking about something I explicitly said is a complete non-factor in my vote in response to my explanation. I honestly straight up don't get the logic train for why you're replying to me especially and I want to emphasize this with how you're replying to me if you you didn't take my post as an indictment against the Brazilian vote. Like how does my explanation for why i'm voting German and that I personally don't like voting for this for future Tommy wrestling reasons lead you to reply to me about all the future Tommy Wrestling reasons to vote Brazilian? The only part of this last post of yours that makes sense as a reply to mine to me is that you think German Beer and Beer in general sucks which great fine there's a reason for you not to vote German but let me quote myself for my reasoning here. "I'm going to vote based on my ability to picture and see Tommy's relationship with his dad with the added cultural context this vote adds." My ability to picture cultural context is a very personal thing of which nothing you say is going to be able to change because it has a lot to do with personal experience.
The fuck? I haven't changed shit. I said I was voting for German because German Beer. The wording may have been way too fucking dumbed down but I meant I was voting based on how I saw it meshing with what we knew so far of his dad and my ability to put the two to fucking gether and imagine Tommy's relationship with his dad which is why in a follow-up post I explained that. I haven't said jack fucking shit about having to be European to have a fucking bar. What I've said is I'm ME picking fucking German because I personally have an easier fucking time imagining the relationship in which the cultural context is being raised in a German Bar and that I personally want to vote for this based on the ability to contextualize and see that relationship. Do you have an easier time seeing that with Brazillian? Great. Fucking vote for that and I applaud you for it! Do you not give a shit about that and want to vote just based on Tommy's career? Great too. It rubs me the wrong way a little but that's my own personal fucking problem! But kindly quit with the bullshit of trying to lecture me on my ability to imagine the history of a characters relationship with his dad as he grew up in a fucking bar with him.
I get the impression this is very true in your case on this vote and you're giving me shit unnecessarily as a result. If you are really personally invested in this vote maybe don't ask why people are voting for something especially if you're going to read shit into it that they haven't said.
Have you never heard someone call something a spiel without a negative context? Cause I use it and hear it used to desribe a sales pitch someone personally doesn't care about all the damn time. That's exactly what the whole thing about how the choice affects Tommy's wrestling is to me. A pitch for why someone should vote Brazilian addressing things I don't care about. No need to feel personally slighted by that. And I answered the question honestly though poorly at first. The reason I'm voting German is because due to personal experiences and upbringing I can imagine the relationship between Tommy and his Dad easier. Said personal experience means bar + German Beer has an obvious connection so that seemed to suffice as an explanation to someone was selling the Wrestling career angle for the choice when I hadn't thought through the fact that I was explaining stuff to some dude on the internet without similar experiences.
It might have escaped your noticed, but the players had Tommy decide he wanted to change wrestling somehow. Being Brazilian opens venues to possibly do that.
You said you wanted German beers. I said German beers were shit, that Germany was a shit country to adopt as daddy's homelan and expanded on why I thought Brazilian was a good idea with IRL documentation of how it has been used in the sport of professional wrestling.
See above.
