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Taylor Hebert and Her Rather Sad Life [Worm/The Gamer/D&D3.5]

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Is there a mechanism where you can use XP to buy more skill points, without having to go up levels to do so?
If so, I'd like to buy up Computer Use and some of the Star Wars craft skills.

I think they would be worth slowing down our leveling up a little, at least when we hit higher levels.
 
the DragonBard said:
Is there a mechanism where you can use XP to buy more skill points, without having to go up levels to do so?
If so, I'd like to buy up Computer Use and some of the Star Wars craft skills.

I think they would be worth slowing down our leveling up a little, at least when we hit higher levels.
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You are looking to add in "Buy the Numbers" to the system.

There are a handful of other ones out there, but all of them, including the above are third party and do not fit in pathfinder.

Taylor could also one day play with the settings and set herself as "Mythic" which will provide even more bonus feats and nice bonus's.
 
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Kioras said:
You are looking to add in "Buy the Numbers" to the system.

There are a handful of other ones out there, but all of them, including the above are third party and do not fit in pathfinder.

Taylor could also one day play with the settings and set herself as "Mythic" which will provide even more bonus feats and nice bonus's.
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I'm pretty sure 3rd Party stuff is allowed.

Though, I was talking more adding Skill Points rather than just new abilities.
Wouldn't mind getting the Warlock's Blast power. At will attack power that levels up with you? If didn't have to sacrifice a caster level, I'd be for it. The DR wouldn't be bad either.
 
TheEyes said:
And of course we'll need a Dedicated Wright, so we don't even need to be there for most of the item creation process. In fact, we should make a whole set of them, and set them to disassembling the Boat Graveyard, building more Wrights until we get a few hundred, so we can mass-produce items like crazy.

Yes, I'm advocating that we make a magical von Neumann swarm.

Oh, and vote!

[X] UberJJK
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And then we start our very own revolutionary magi tech company, quickly becoming one the most influential people in the galaxy as it evolves into a Shadowrun style Megacorp!
 
the DragonBard said:
Is there a mechanism where you can use XP to buy more skill points, without having to go up levels to do so?
If so, I'd like to buy up Computer Use and some of the Star Wars craft skills.

I think they would be worth slowing down our leveling up a little, at least when we hit higher levels.
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For computer use and any other non-combat skills we can just craft gloves if +30 computer use or whatever for cheap. C'mon, guys, that's like min-maxing 101.
 
the DragonBard said:
Could a Wish spell grant a Case 53 or similar an alternate form?
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Hmmm... depends a bit on how exactly the power making them a Case 53 is worded, but the rules certainly support changing the form of someone using Wish.

Specifically, page 150 of Savage Species (it's a 3.0e book, but still valid here) gives rules for casting Wish to become a new creature. Presumably, Human is a valid target for this. The problem is that, were I writing things, I'd model their power as a constant effect which grants them that form. In effect, they would become a Case 53 again immediately, and we'd be out 5000 xp.

To get around that, I would use Wish to make them a Silver Dragon (Wyrmling), which has the Alternate Form supernatural ability. It might still run into problems with the power, but that's two shots at a favorable interaction rather than one.
 
mrttao said:
we get kill commanded
we can get away with killing lung, but mindraping him to be "good" would get us murdered fast by literally everyone hero or villain because nobody likes mindrapists
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Again, fanon. Kill Order require a full trial in absentia to order execution(Taylor OFFERED to take one because she didn't know what it would actually take to get one authorized).

Even Regent as Hijack didn't have one. To acquire a Kill Order, you must be able to make a case that the person EXISTING is a clear and present threat to the whole country, such that anyone who kills them is functionally performing self defense(i.e. S9 current members).
And again, there's no special anti-Master prejudice. Pretender, Glory Girl and Gallant get away with it in canon without any negative stigma beyond having powers at all.

It's reckless abuse of Master powers which cause problems, and the same is true for any powers. Or weapons. And by that I include Regent's previous career as a mind control rapist as being insufficient to get more of a response.
 
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veekie said:
It's reckless abuse of Master powers which cause problems, and the same is true for any powers. Or weapons. And by that I include Regent's previous career as a mind control rapist as being insufficient to get more of a response.
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To be fair to Regent, he was a) a minor and b) under the influence of Heartbreaker's little cult. Even getting the Birdcage for him would have been unlikely never mind a kill order.
 
Well, it's still his fetish(only he found someone who also liked that sort of thing, and could turn off his control at any time if it got bad). So yeah, the Undersiders were a deeply screwed up team.
 
veekie said:
Well, it's still his fetish(only he found someone who also liked that sort of thing, and could turn off his control at any time if it got bad). So yeah, the Undersiders were a deeply screwed up team.
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He did stop doing it once he got away from dear old dad even if he did enjoy it, I think he may have realized that it was wrong at least intellectually. But yeah the Undersiders' mental issues were quite impresive for parahumans that could still function in society.
 
Logos said:
Hmmm... depends a bit on how exactly the power making them a Case 53 is worded, but the rules certainly support changing the form of someone using Wish.

Specifically, page 150 of Savage Species (it's a 3.0e book, but still valid here) gives rules for casting Wish to become a new creature. Presumably, Human is a valid target for this. The problem is that, were I writing things, I'd model their power as a constant effect which grants them that form. In effect, they would become a Case 53 again immediately, and we'd be out 5000 xp.

To get around that, I would use Wish to make them a Silver Dragon (Wyrmling), which has the Alternate Form supernatural ability. It might still run into problems with the power, but that's two shots at a favorable interaction rather than one.
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Well, it depends on just how the wish itself was worded and just how active the Eden shards are. The big thing to remember is that Scion shards themselves always attempt to reconnect to things that fit the parameters of their host. Eden shards are a little more murky. Using a wish to force reincarnate on someone would have the highest likelihood of working due to both severing the connection and then changing the genetics and general shape of the person targeted. We know that the shards themselves connect through both the body being an accurate enough reproduction and require the memories to actually use powers. Though, we don't know if the shards are already connected to the brain and "dormant" until the host itself gets the memories or if the memories somehow do weird shit or if the pollentia is actually written into their genetic code such that a clone regrows one on gestation. That's why I would think that basically giving them the form of "them, as a human" would simply cause them to mutate right back.
 
veekie said:
Again, fanon. Kill Order require a full trial in absentia to order execution
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Which will convict us and kill command us
veekie said:
To acquire a Kill Order, you must be able to make a case that the person EXISTING is a clear and present threat to the whole country
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Such as by demonstrating they are going around rewriting people's minds as well as creating items that can rewrite people's minds, including turning heroes into villains if fall into the wrong hands... and then send those items to villains in the hope they use them on themselves rather than on an enemy
veekie said:
And again, there's no special anti-Master prejudice.
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Yes there is
veekie said:
Pretender, Glory Girl and Gallant get away with it in canon without any negative stigma beyond having powers at all.
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1. They literally lie about their powers.
2. They are not the only ones
3. There is a huge massive difference in scale between their power and using a helm of alignment change
 
mrttao said:
1. They literally lie about their powers.
2. They are not the only ones
3. There is a huge massive difference in scale between their power and using a helm of alignment change
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1. False. Their powers are public knowledge
3. True, the helm of alignment change is faster, but weaker and less versatile.

mrttao said:
Such as by demonstrating they are going around rewriting people's minds as well as creating items that can rewrite people's minds, including turning heroes into villains if fall into the wrong hands... and then send those items to villains in the hope they use them on themselves rather than on an enemy
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There are parahumans with that type of power who didn't get kill orders, despite using the power fairly liberally(granted, they are more subtle about it but the Bratva over in Anchorage has a small time leader who does so routinely, and has used it on a Ward).
 
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mrttao said:
Such as by demonstrating they are going around rewriting people's minds as well as creating items that can rewrite people's minds, including turning heroes into villains if fall into the wrong hands... and then send those items to villains in the hope they use them on themselves rather than on an enemy
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To be fair if we got into bed with Cauldron we could break out stuff from Libris Mortis, Lords of Madness or even The Book of Vile Darkness and they would not even bat an eye, never mind a Helm of Opposite Alignment. The greater obstacle to pulling something like that is Taylor's own morality.
 
DragonParadox said:
To be fair if we got into bed with Cauldron we could break out stuff from Libris Mortis, Lords of Madness or even The Book of Vile Darkness and they would not even bat an eye, never mind a Helm of Opposite Alignment. The greater obstacle to pulling something like that is Taylor's own morality.
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Yes, but
1. we are not talking about cauldron
2. cauldron isn't the one behind kill commands, cauldron is a secret organization with loose morals. Kill commands come from the PRT (aka parahuman cops).
 
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mrttao said:
Yes, but
1. we are not talking about cauldron
2. cauldron isn't the one behind kill commands, cauldron is a secret organization with loose morals. Kill commands come from the PRT (aka parahuman cops).
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Cauldron can (baring complex Ziz plots) manipulate the PRT into never finding out about its members' questionable actions.
 
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mrttao said:
Kill commands come from the PRT (aka parahuman cops).
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Kill Orders must be signed off by the legal system in a full open trial. That means you need a solid case that would have them commit capital crimes with unquestionable evidence.

Mind control, funny enough, is not a capital crime. And evidence is rather difficult to gather unless you're completely unrestrained like Heartbreaker.
 
veekie said:
Kill Orders must be signed off by the legal system in a full open trial.
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Which can easily be acquired
veekie said:
That means you need a solid case that would have them commit capital crimes with unquestionable evidence.

Mind control, funny enough, is not a capital crime.
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IRL it isn't a crime because IRL it isn't possible. I assure you it is a crime in worm. And evidence suggests you are wrong about it not being capital
 
mrttao said:
I assure you it is a crime in worm. And evidence suggests you are wrong about it not being capital
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Seriously?

We've seen zero Masters getting capital punishments. Only imprisonment even in the most high profile case.
The only one who DID was Cherish, and she was a member of the Slaughterhouse Nine, who as serial killers, already qualify for a kill order whatever their powers are. Canary was WoG stated to be caught in the backlash of an anti-parahuman fervor with a high profile, gruesome case, where nobody cared enough to keep her out.

There are mind controllers leading Protectorate teams, mind controllers leading gangs, emotion manipulators and bodyjackers...all free, even Regent was looking at a jail term, not even the Birdcage. Hell, for a long time the PRT thought Tattletale was a mind controller...and they aren't far wrong. She can do it with words and logic

At this point you've made up your own head canon in contradiction to the actual evidence and WoG.
 
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veekie said:
There are mind controllers leading Protectorate teams
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You keep on using that term where it is grossly misapplied. You gave glory girl as an example of a mind controller
Victoria has the ability of flight, invincibility, and deadlifting over a ton. She also radiates an energy which makes her allies more inclined to respect and look up to her, while making her terrifying and intimidating to her enemies.
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1. There is a massive difference in scope between this and permanently rewriting of someone's personality in such a significant level as a helm of opposite alignment
2. Her power is an uncontrolled aura with one specific and fairly harmless result, we would be intentionally creating mind control device and then intentionally using them, and their result is massive and highly invasive
3. Her power over minds is kept a secret.
 
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