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Stark Transcendent (Iron Man/Marvel Quest)

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Oh man, just re-found and re-read the whole story thread. This is an excellent and memorable quest.

I still feel bad that Stark never patched things up with Reed. Getting him in the Transcendent think tank would have been a boon.

I do enjoy that he offered the Shocker a job. Tony just likes those that create awesome things with a box of scraps.

So, Pyre, the poison dragon, well half of him, fell onto liberty island and now they need to put the head out of its misery while avoiding all the nerve gas it's generating? The clean up is going to be a bitch since the thing is Pacific Rim Kaiju levels of toxic or more.

And Stark can build a new Lady Liberty. He has the technology to make her faster, stronger, with Mach 1+ flight capability and a unibeam in the torch. Just in case any other dragons or alien invaders decide to aggressively visit New York.

But Death and the Phoenix seem to have decided that life is more interesting with Tony alive. It seems that his power is to make a (hopefully perfect except the lack of hair) clone of himself if he dies. And he's immune to Pyre, and possibly to vast amount of energies coursing through his body.

And now Jarvis is jailbroken and has decided to productively help (instead of HALP) and is being very, very effective.

Still to do is to talk/examine the Howard Daddy AI, Obidaiah Stane - if he had recovered from his coma, Mutant Powers - how do they work, and Tony's relationship with Pepper - or at least make her a super suit. And to figure out how someone (Hydra) got aboard an invisible flying ship and turned that guy into a gigantic dragon, possibly using Peter's blood.

So yeah, SHIELD dropped the (dragon) ball there.


Let's see what excitement the next installment brings.
 
misterq said:
But Death and the Phoenix seem to have decided that life is more interesting with Tony alive. It seems that his power is to make a (hopefully perfect except the lack of hair) clone of himself if he dies. And he's immune to Pyre, and possibly to vast amount of energies coursing through his body.
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Actually, I think his 'power' might be creating souls.
 
misterq said:
Oh man, just re-found and re-read the whole story thread. This is an excellent and memorable quest.

I still feel bad that Stark never patched things up with Reed. Getting him in the Transcendent think tank would have been a boon.

I do enjoy that he offered the Shocker a job. Tony just likes those that create awesome things with a box of scraps.

So, Pyre, the poison dragon, well half of him, fell onto liberty island and now they need to put the head out of its misery while avoiding all the nerve gas it's generating? The clean up is going to be a bitch since the thing is Pacific Rim Kaiju levels of toxic or more.

And Stark can build a new Lady Liberty. He has the technology to make her faster, stronger, with Mach 1+ flight capability and a unibeam in the torch. Just in case any other dragons or alien invaders decide to aggressively visit New York.

But Death and the Phoenix seem to have decided that life is more interesting with Tony alive. It seems that his power is to make a (hopefully perfect except the lack of hair) clone of himself if he dies. And he's immune to Pyre, and possibly to vast amount of energies coursing through his body.

And now Jarvis is jailbroken and has decided to productively help (instead of HALP) and is being very, very effective.

Still to do is to talk/examine the Howard Daddy AI, Obidaiah Stane - if he had recovered from his coma, Mutant Powers - how do they work, and Tony's relationship with Pepper - or at least make her a super suit. And to figure out how someone (Hydra) got aboard an invisible flying ship and turned that guy into a gigantic dragon, possibly using Peter's blood.

So yeah, SHIELD dropped the (dragon) ball there.


Let's see what excitement the next installment brings.
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I got the impression that the rebirth thing was a function of his empowerment (becuase the pheonix force substantially contributed, and one of it's gimmicks is ressurection), not his power itself.
 
Guys, I have a theory as to Starks power actually. I don't think we can die an energetic death. Don't get me wrong, Starks easily killable, its just that he can't die through the death scenarios we've been throwing. Any scenario where your biology can cease to be biology and can start to become physics is a scenario in which a sufficient amount of energy will transfer over to allow stark to regenerate or reincarnate or respawn or whatever it is.

I also suspect that were Tony Stark to walk into Reactor 4 and sit on the elephants foot that he'd end up walking out looking younger and healthier. This also means theoretically you could kill the solar system by throwing him into the sun and letting him absorb energy.

Its currently unclear whether ANY energy or just photons/light will do the trick and I feel us testing the limitations of this power artificially is still an incredibly bad idea. But it also means that Stark is more physics than man now.

Also that the power here is some form of energy redirection, best comparison I can think of is legends breaker state.
 
Jyggalag said:
Guys, I have a theory as to Starks power actually. I don't think we can die an energetic death. Don't get me wrong, Starks easily killable, its just that he can't die through the death scenarios we've been throwing. Any scenario where your biology can cease to be biology and can start to become physics is a scenario in which a sufficient amount of energy will transfer over to allow stark to regenerate or reincarnate or respawn or whatever it is.

I also suspect that were Tony Stark to walk into Reactor 4 and sit on the elephants foot that he'd end up walking out looking younger and healthier. This also means theoretically you could kill the solar system by throwing him into the sun and letting him absorb energy.

Its currently unclear whether ANY energy or just photons/light will do the trick and I feel us testing the limitations of this power artificially is still an incredibly bad idea. But it also means that Stark is more physics than man now.

Also that the power here is some form of energy redirection, best comparison I can think of is legends breaker state.
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I mean, the guy is tapping the phoenix to an unknown degree. The thing that's whole schtick is literally death and rebirth. I think you might be trying too hard to find a power-y thing when it's just... The Phoenix Force doing its Phoenix thing.
 
Jyggalag said:
Guys, I have a theory as to Starks power actually. I don't think we can die an energetic death. ... were Tony Stark to walk into Reactor 4 and sit on the elephants foot that he'd end up walking out looking younger and healthier. This also means theoretically you could kill the solar system by throwing him into the sun and letting him absorb energy.

Its currently unclear whether ANY energy or just photons/light will do the trick and I feel us testing the limitations of this power artificially is still an incredibly bad idea. But it also means that Stark is more physics than man now.
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"He's more physics now than man. Twisted and evil."
misterq said:
I still feel bad that Stark never patched things up with Reed. Getting him in the Transcendent think tank would have been a boon.
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Future arcs may present the possibility; the Storms have positive relationships with us, and his involvement with the Breakfast Club now may help us mend bridges later. Granted, it's more likely that he'll only graduate from "seething nuclear hatred" to "generalized dislike", but we've theoretically got time. Should we survive this.
misterq said:
Stark can build a new Lady Liberty. He has the technology to make her faster, stronger, with Mach 1+ flight capability and a unibeam in the torch. Just in case any other dragons or alien invaders decide to aggressively visit New York.
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FURY: "Stark, what is that?"
STARK: "Lady Liberty Mark II. Or Iron Maiden. I like Iron Maiden."
FURY. "Why is she red and gold?"
STARK: "Because of reasons."
 
Dr. Bob Doom said:
I mean, the guy is tapping the phoenix to an unknown degree. The thing that's whole schtick is literally death and rebirth. I think you might be trying too hard to find a power-y thing when it's just... The Phoenix Force doing its Phoenix thing.
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Also, Death is right there next to the Phoenix Force contributing as well.

But it is fun to speculate on Tony's powers.

After thinking a bit, I recall how Tony said the Fantastic Four's biology looked like it had been replaced with versions of them from worlds where physics and evolution were very different. So there may be a world where everyone is a rock being and one where everyone is a rubberband man and one where everyone can control fire or turn invisible and project forcefields. It's just that Reed and co.'s had their human biology switched out for a copy of one of those.

So what if Tony's power is to have his biology replaced by something that is invulnerable to what killed or hurt him. He is now immune to Pyre and I bet deadly radiation levels mean nothing to him. It's like that mutant's power to evolve (or Crawler from Worm), except Tony's appearance doesn't change much. He just keeps looking like Tony Stark, plus or minus hair. So whatever doesn't kill him will make him stronger. And with Death and Phoenix involved, well they can try to snuff the rooster Iron Man, but he ain't gonna die.



FURY: Tony, why are you blasting 'Higher and Higher' at the statue's unveiling?

TONY: It's Tradition!
 
pbluekan said:
Eh. Reed is an asshole.
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He's not only an asshole; in at least one of their origin stories he's directly responsible for the creation of DR DOOM the villain due to his behavior. Then there's all the other various shit he does that proves he's got Wisdom as his dump stat.

In no particular order, right off the top of my head there are many different things agreeing with that. Infecting his family with the zombie virus, leaving an open portal to the negative zone with no/negligible protections in the middle of his family home which happens to be the Baxter Building in the middle of NYC... He turned away Spider Man for some stupid reason that made no sense instead of giving him an internship/even a basic job and we've seen just how smart Peter is in multiple timelines... Let's put it this way when one of the villains planted evidence that Reed made sure to fly into that cosmic radiation without shielding deliberately ALL of the people closest to him believed it because it was that in character.

The man is not only a total prick he's also someone that doesn't bother to ask himself 'should I do this' he jumps straight to 'I'm gonna do this!' and is unfortunately smart enough to accomplish much of what he sets out to do.
 
We've had this conversation before, and I'm not particularly interested in having it again.

Reed is very smart, he would be a great boon to the team IF he were willing to work with other people.

However, for the time being he is not, and I find it unlikely that that is going to change in the immediate future, so further discussion of this already exhausted topic is rather unlikely to accomplish anything until such a time as we have an update that changes things in regards to Reed. (In either a positive or a negative way).

He currently blames us for them getting irradiated, and basically utterly despises us and everything we stand for. Any attempts to repair our relationship are going to be futile until he's had the proper time to cool off. Since any move from us is just going to add fuel to the fire the best course of action is to just let it burn itself out.

Which should be fine, since we have other things to do anyway. Until then we can continue down our research path, continue combating threats, and continue trying to recruit the people who ARE willing to work with us. And none of that has to involve Reed in any way. (I AM interested in contacting Doom at some point, which may end up involving him one way or another, but that can be put on the backburner for the moment. T'Challa is probably a better diplomatic contact for us in our current state anyway, plus he is likely to get a bit of writing-fuel fairly soon with Black Panther and Infinity War going on, where as Doom's current incarnation doesn't really mesh with this quests version of him. (which makes sense, since this quest predates the most recent marvel reboot, and the consequences of it changed him (as the 'main character') rather dramatically)).

Funnily enough, Doom's new characterization might make him even more desirable for the purposes of this quest, considering he's Iron Man now.
 
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So, just started reading that Infamous Iron Man, and one line jumped out that I rather like.

"I came to Tony Stark because I admired him. I was always -- I always looked at him and saw another version of me.

Considering WE are Tony Stark in this quest, I hope we are worthy of such praise.
 
Night_stalker said:
Did Iron Man just hand out suits to everyone or something?
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I have no idea what is going on with Punisher, but Doom made his own (inspired by Iron Man, of course).
Iron Man is kinda-sorta dead. He got a brain back-up running, but his fleshy body is dead. So Doom, following his revelation that he wasn't satisfied even when he was Literally God, decided that the Fates were telling him he needs to be the new Iron Man.
 
Trondason said:
I have no idea what is going on with Punisher, but Doom made his own (inspired by Iron Man, of course).
Iron Man is kinda-sorta dead. He got a brain back-up running, but his fleshy body is dead. So Doom, following his revelation that he wasn't satisfied even when he was Literally God, decided that the Fates were telling him he needs to be the new Iron Man.
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It's actually vague as to if it's an original Doom Design, or a remodeled Mk 51 suit.
 
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