Stark Quest 2.0: The Search for Shinies
- Thread starter Mazrick
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Ok, I'll remove the Jon's secret origins thing since nobody else really agrees with telling her that.
EDIT - removed asking Jon for permission, and explicitly added "Do not yet inform her about Jon's origins. She would have to earn your trust before you'd consider telling her that."
EDIT - removed asking Jon for permission, and explicitly added "Do not yet inform her about Jon's origins. She would have to earn your trust before you'd consider telling her that."
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Killing a magic user so they don't have the chance to put the mind whammy on you or your men is a hell of a lot more sensible than letting that bomb shell drop.
Also stop pretending that we can absolutely trust her just because she is Dany-the-Waifu.
Ask her about her combat abilities and what she can do to our men, and what she can do with earth.
She is a prisoner, not Harlons girlfriend. If she gets an opportunity to escape, ofcourse she will take it. Heck, she would be insane not to!
Ask her about her combat abilities and what she can do to our men, and what she can do with earth.
She is a prisoner, not Harlons girlfriend. If she gets an opportunity to escape, ofcourse she will take it. Heck, she would be insane not to!
I didn't think to ask, but I see no reason not to add it. I have a feeling she might refuse to answer that one, though.
EDIT - added "Ask her about her magical capabilities. Let her know that you know she knows some Mind Magic and the True Names of Fire and Earth, but not the full extent of her abilities with them."
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Fluffiness
Sleepy
- Location
- New York
We definitely wouldn't want her escaping, especially since we are hiding from Drogo.
Mazrick
Shai'tan
- Location
- The Pit of Doom
That's a bit superfluous. Harlon wouldn't consider doing so unless you guys voted for it. That secret has enormous consequences written all over it. Therefore, it will only be revealed if an outside actor finds out about it somehow, or one of the handful of people who know it choose to reveal it.
Ok, I'll remove it then just to keep the size of the wall of text down.
EDIT - done. Anyone else got questions to add or concerns over what's left?
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Can we interrogate the host first? It will give us more information about Tavar and confirm some of what she told us. Maybe she knows more about the other players as well?
Possibly, but refusing to answer that is in itself its own answer. If her abilities are weak enough not to pose a threat, she would have little reason to hide it, since she cannot use those abilities to escape and revealing that under the blood oath will allow Harlon to improve her situation (no gags, drugs or blindfolds), which would only be beneficial to her.
If she refuses to answer, its because her abilities ARE strong enough that she could potentially use them to send a message outside or hurt/control our men.
We should talk to the host after this. If we can convince her and if she has seen what Tavar saw, then she can presumably tell us how skilled Dany has become. I also want to know who she is and where Tavar captured her from.
[X] Enjou
If she refuses to answer, its because her abilities ARE strong enough that she could potentially use them to send a message outside or hurt/control our men.
We should talk to the host after this. If we can convince her and if she has seen what Tavar saw, then she can presumably tell us how skilled Dany has become. I also want to know who she is and where Tavar captured her from.
[X] Enjou
I am fine with interrogating the host too, though I think Enjou is so giddy about getting to talk to Dany that we should not cause him too much torment.
Are there any obvious benefits from talking to the host before Dany? Remember that we can always talk to her right afterwards (and we should).
Fluffiness
Sleepy
- Location
- New York
If the host was aware while possessed, we could probably learn things about Dany before we interrogate her, which would always be helpful.
Or it's because they're weak and she doesn't want us to know exactly how vulnerable she actually is. Or she just doesn't want us to know because she considers it private. Not answering could mean a number of things. Maybe if we offer to reciprocate? (given at this point we can tell her we can kill people with our thoughts, she might refrain from trying anything)
I am fine with interrogating the host too, though I think Enjou is so giddy about getting to talk to Dany that we should not cause him too much torment.
Are there any obvious benefits from talking to the host before Dany? Remember that we can always talk to her right afterwards (and we should).
There's nothing to say we can't talk to Dany first, then the host, and then Dany again if need be. (I honestly hope we don't need to - I'd like to get on with the plot in general at some point)
*shrug*I am fine with interrogating the host too, though I think Enjou is so giddy about getting to talk to Dany that we should not cause him too much torment.
Are there any obvious benefits from talking to the host before Dany? Remember that we can always talk to her right afterwards (and we should).
Nothing beyond being better prepared for the upcoming talk. Frankly, if we really don't want to mess it up, then asking the host first makes more sense. She's far more likely to part with information, and what she tells us might prevent any major mistakes.
Mazrick
Shai'tan
- Location
- The Pit of Doom
All of this exposition is necessary, since Harlon is definitely established as the type to want as much info before he acts as possible (I wonder why?
), but, yes, I'll try to have us back on the plot train soon.I do want to talk to the host regardless, since she might be someone important.
However unless she tells us something revolutionary about Dany, I don't see if theres a reason to immediately go and talk to her again. We can always let her stew for a bit and then talk to her later, after we have explored Drogos mansion and so on.
Same with Tavar. If we manage to find Ithroen, having him on hand as Jon continues the interrogation of Tavar would be usefull, and he might get a kick of deceiving the observer expert like that.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
@Mazrick
Can we use an Ability or skill point to raise understanding of mindmagic a point? Also would this be tracked indepedantly of our skill in the various mind magic disciplines or would it simply mean Harlon doesn't gain any more 'skill' in mind magic until he raises his skill in the sub sequences further?
Can we use an Ability or skill point to raise understanding of mindmagic a point? Also would this be tracked indepedantly of our skill in the various mind magic disciplines or would it simply mean Harlon doesn't gain any more 'skill' in mind magic until he raises his skill in the sub sequences further?
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Btw.
@Mazrick, I think when Ithroen performed the ritual, he used somekind of herbs and stuff? Do we have all thats rqeuired to perform the blood oath on hand right now?
Also, @Enjou, make sure our Senses (and maybe focus, though I think we are probably running low on MP?) augment is on active. Maybe we can get some hints from her body language or somesuch.
Actually, do we have enough MP to go ahead with the original "scout via possession" plan anyway without sleeping first? We have used MPs a lot, first with the fight, then checking things (library, secret rooms) then reading the book on wards and so on.
@Mazrick, I think when Ithroen performed the ritual, he used somekind of herbs and stuff? Do we have all thats rqeuired to perform the blood oath on hand right now?
Also, @Enjou, make sure our Senses (and maybe focus, though I think we are probably running low on MP?) augment is on active. Maybe we can get some hints from her body language or somesuch.
Actually, do we have enough MP to go ahead with the original "scout via possession" plan anyway without sleeping first? We have used MPs a lot, first with the fight, then checking things (library, secret rooms) then reading the book on wards and so on.
If we tell Dany that Tavar tried to possess her, what other proof do we have besides her own words? And we know that she's lying about other things, so why couldn't she have deceived us about this to make us feel safe?
Interrogating the host would mean that we have more evidence if Dany demands it. After all, she might need more than whatever her teacher told us to believe that she was betrayed like that by her trusted figure.
Basically, there are no downsides to starting with the host and quite a few reasons for it.
We can't assume that. There's a lot of things that can go wrong, and I'd prefer to conduct our first interrogation/negotiation with maximum results.
Yeah, might be nice.
Mazrick
Shai'tan
- Location
- The Pit of Doom
Yes you can buy points if you wish. 200 XP.
I assign it arbitrarily based on my perception of Harlon's facility with the respective magic.
No. You'd need to go out to the market to get the necessary ingredients. They're not hard to find, but you don't have them on you. Good catch. I didn't think of that. +1XP
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Cool, I edited my post just as you answered so I've moved this to a new post
Edit: To clarify my question,
Would adding a point to mind magic understanding via this method mean that Harlon is effectively one point ahead on his mind magic understanding until hitting the natural cap of 10 or would it function as a natural part of the mind magic understanding skill/talent thing and mean that future progress would take the normal time to go from say 3 to 4?
Also how does the thread bonus work?
Mazrick
Shai'tan
- Location
- The Pit of Doom
This. Its only fair since 200 XP is quite expensive, and I don't know if many players would go for it.
I'll add them on to the character sheet as soon as the bit of training is done, and then they'll work as normal.
No. You'd need to go out to the market to get the necessary ingredients. They're not hard to find, but you don't have them on you. Good catch. I didn't think of that. +1XP
In that case, it might better to interrogate the host now, then go outside to buy stuff and check out the mansion, then return to do Enjous vote.
Probably not.
We still need what, 1K xp to reach max channeling ability?
How long will it take Harlon to reach his full power and for the strength to be set in stone anyway? How long do we have to raise the stats before its too late?
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Well guys, if you really want to make mind magic work this is going to be needed.
We will jump to 3 understanding from the thread bonus with a 200XP spend we can be at understanding 4.
This would effectively mean that Harlon shaves a minimum of a month to five and 1/2 months from learning each of Accelerate and Focus to level 4.
At level 4 in active mode on those two sequences Harlon would have x4 learning speed for learning all other mind magic, or anything else that would require the use of his brain meats.
Channeling is Vit + Will right?
Will- 7.7
Vitality- 7.1
Assuming we naturally grind will to 8 would need 400xp to put that at 10 and 600xp to get Vit to 10 so yea. Although we would hit 12 will I believe due to the dire wolf?
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