Stargate Canadian Safe Harbor (Stargate AU)

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Pick-up/Reveal pt1

Standing on the Bridge of the HMCS Heron, you adjusted your new Uniform. While still following Navy traditions, it was a slightly different colour palette. That being Intel blue with metallic Cosmic Taupe accents and piping.

You were preparing for the two-hour-long trip to lunar orbit when one of your scanner personnel spoke up.

"Goa'uld sub-light engine detected leaving Earth and passing Lunar orbit," She called out. "Heavy radio traffic detected back towards Earth, NORAD region."

"Can we decrypt it?" You asked.

"Already on it," One of the communication techs replied.

Over the next half hour, you learn that the U.S.A. government and "Star Gate Command" had "invented" an underwhelming space fighter which was literally just one of the Goa'uld fighters with a few Human control systems added on. For Vaettir's sake, they hadn't even given the computer core a proper analysis, and now Jack and T'ealc were trapped in it with no control while the ex-Deathglider headed out on a five-hundred-light-year trip on its sub-light engines.

"Sir, they have just passed Mars and lost contact with Earth," A different coms officer informed you.

"How long until we can intercept them?" You asked.

"Ten minutes, sir," Was the response. "We would need to alter our path slightly now, or we would need more time as the relative angles of approach change."

"Do so," You order. "And inform me two minutes before we enter Deathglider detection range."

---Jack O'Neill POV (Eight Minutes Later)---

You would never admit that you squeaked when the fighter's com-system had crackled to light a good ten minutes after you had exited range of Earth and a voice had shouted at you, by name.

"JACK O'NEILL, WHERE IS MY GAMEBOY!" The voice of Phil Lokison roared over the com. "IF YOU THINK YOU CAN AVOID ME BY FLEEING THE VAETTIR DAMNED SOLAR SYSTEM YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW NOTHING."

"Phil..." You responded, trying to figure out how your favourite waterbound Canuk was talking to you and who the hell Vaettir was. "Not that it is not good to hear from you, but I'm a little busy dying a long, slow death here."

"If you think I am letting you die before returning my Game Boy, you have another thing coming, you balding eagle," Phil responded with no noticeable lag in the signal.

"O'Neill, we are being approached," T'ealc informed you, pointing out the observation window.

Following his finger, you freeze. That was a spaceship, one MUCH larger than your own fighter, while still smaller than a Cheops it had the predatory look of a human-designed warship.

"Now sit tight and let me rescue you," Phil ordered over the coms. "Because I am not letting you die just yet."

"You briefly wonder if death would be preferable to the paperwork you know this would create.
 
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Pick-up/Reveal pt1

Standing on the Bridge of the HMCS Heron, you adjusted your new Uniform. While still following Navy traditions, it was a slightly different colour palette. That being Intel blue with metallic Cosmic Taupe accents and piping.

You were preparing for the two-hour-long trip to lunar orbit when one of your scanner personnel spoke up.

"Goa'uld sub-light engine detected leaving Earth and passing Lunar orbit," She called out. "Heavy radio traffic detected back towards Earth, NORAD region."

"Can we decrypt it?" You asked.

"Already on it," One of the communication techs replied.

Over the next half hour, you learn that the U.S.A. government and "Star Gate Command" had "invented" an underwhelming space fighter which was literally just one of the Goa'uld fighters with a few Human control systems added on. For Veattir's sake, they hadn't even given the computer core a proper analysis, and now Jack and T'ealc were trapped in it with no control while the ex-Deathglider headed out on a five-hundred-light-year trip on its sub-light engines.

"Sir, they have just passed Mars and lost contact with Earth," A different coms officer informed you.

"How long until we can intercept them?" You asked.

"Ten minutes, sir," Was the response. "We would need to alter our path slightly now, or we would need more time as the relative angles of approach change."

"Do so," You order. "And inform me two minutes before we enter Deathglider detection range."

---Jack O'Neill POV (Eight Minutes Later)---

You would never admit that you squeaked when the fighter's com-system had crackled to light a good ten minutes after you had exited range of Earth and a voice had shouted at you, by name.

"JACK O'NEILL, WHERE IS MY GAMEBOY!" The voice of Phil Lokison roared over the com. "IF YOU THINK YOU CAN AVOID ME BY FLEEING THE VEATTIR DAMNED SOLAR SYSTEM YOU OBVIOUS KNOW NOTHING."

"Phil..." You responded, trying to figure out how your favourite waterbound Canuk was talking to you and who the hell Veattir was. "Not that it is not good to hear from you, but I'm a little busy dying a long, slow death here."

"If you think I am letting you die before returning my Game Boy, you have another thing coming, you balding eagle," Phil responded with no noticeable lag in the signal.

"O'Neill, we are being approached," T'ealc informed you, pointing out the observation window.

Following his finger, you freeze. That was a spaceship, one MUCH larger than your own fighter, while still smaller than a Cheops it had the predatory look of a human-designed warship.

"Now sit tight and let me rescue you," Phil ordered over the coms. "Because I am not letting you die just yet."

"You briefly wonder if death would be preferable to the paperwork you know this would create.
If that's how we wanna play it I think our frigate class should be Sjövættir. Guardian Sea Spirit.

Phil invoking our Asgardian friend as a divinity is super funny cause like...they are drinking buddies
 
I really want to see if we can chew out the Americans over this debacle, also need to drive home the point that most of our advances are due to the stuff they never bothered to collect after their missions.

I also want someone on our crew to mention to O'Neill that at least his spacefighter wasn't falling apart like the Russians.
 
Glad to see our PR work get us great results and keep any issues away from us.
Yes and dumped all the issues onto the USA.
Jack O'Neill: -Almost literally buried by the resulting paperwork- "And this is why you need to keep a close eye on the damn Canucks.
Over the next half hour, you learn that the U.S.A. government and "Star Gate Command" had "invented" an underwhelming space fighter which was literally just one of the Goa'uld fighters with a few Human control systems added on. For Veattir's sake, they hadn't even given the computer core a proper analysis, and now Jack and T'ealc were trapped in it with no control while the ex-Deathglider headed out on a five-hundred-light-year trip on its sub-light engines.
...... :facepalm:
We've developed all this -gestures at the tech logs, ship roster, and previous turn results- and the SGC has only managed to come up with the X-301.

Cue the Nelson laugh-track. We're going to be holding this over the USA until the end of time.
 
Yes and dumped all the issues onto the USA.
Jack O'Neill: -Almost literally buried by the resulting paperwork- "And this is why you need to keep a close eye on the damn Canucks.

...... :facepalm:
We've developed all this -gestures at the tech logs, ship roster, and previous turn results- and the SGC has only managed to come up with the X-301.

Cue the Nelson laugh-track. We're going to be holding this over the USA until the end of time.
Yeah, something is very, very wrong with SGC and it's R&R setup....
Luckily that's a whole lot of "Not our problem"
 
Yeah, something is very, very wrong with SGC and it's R&R setup....
Luckily that's a whole lot of "Not our problem"
Well most of the R&D seems to happen at Area 51 but either the scientists they have are dullards/not character-grade individuals or they missed various fundamental projects that make it a lot easier to understand Goa'uld tech.

That or they missed the fact that Goa'uld tech is a mismash of stolen/salvaged parts are are instead trying to directly copy it instead of what we're doing.
 
Our project is avoiding using mythological names for ship classes due to several reasons... including the chance we run across the original bearers of those names.
It's literally the name of our friend, who we have met, who helped us develop a ton of tech, with the word "sea" in front.

I'm sure they are out there building the "Philip Lokinson Medical Center" right now.
 
Well most of the R&D seems to happen at Area 51 but either the scientists they have are dullards/not character-grade individuals or they missed various fundamental projects that make it a lot easier to understand Goa'uld tech.

That or they missed the fact that Goa'uld tech is a mismash of stolen/salvaged parts are are instead trying to directly copy it instead of what we're doing.

To be fiar there are powerful elements of the US goverment that are not happy with the SGC an dven the NID too thay keep.messing with them. Thefore while the SGC is made of very bright people they also run afoul.woth budget cuts and have to constantly prove themselves to a sckeptical goverment, specially since it was SGC that reveal Earth existence to the galaxy no matter how accidental it was. Also the US is keeping this operation mostly a secret of they own allies, the Russians actually have to strong arm the US to be part of the SGC.

The Canadian goverment by comparison is mostly a research group at the moment and have a lot of backing from the goverment and invited other countries to the program too and now Canada and it's allies are is trying to play catch up with the SGC progress so there are plenty of incentives.

Basically this is American arrogance at it's finest in thinking they know best and they allies would be cool with them keeping secrets as well, not even realizing they allies would not be cool with them to keeping such secret from them.
 
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The SGC in quest also have a problem of not recovering what they destroy. For example the debris from the ships and the cargo ship they crashed. On top of Sam's notes and the snake weapon on the black market that weren't capitalized on.
 
Also, you have an actually focused goal while SGC has to deal with, every five minutes, a different power block with top secret clearance in the US government giving them new orders.
 
Still this is going to be massively embarrassing for the US in the long run.

Because at the moment, the only things they can offer/hold over the TIC is (potentially) a larger supply of Naquadah along with Trinium. I say potentially because all their resources have to come through the Stargate (which they're also using for missions etc).

In comparison technology-wise, we've cleared the majority of everything they have collected (researched or not) and a ton of stuff that they've ignored/never thought of/never got to.

And industry wise?......Functioning shipyard, need I say more?
 
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Because at the moment, the only things they can offer/hold over the TIC is (potentially) a larger supply of Naquadah along with Trinium. I say potentially because all their resources have to come through the Stargate (which they're also using for missions etc).
Not even we have N coming in per turn using our ships and we have a Trinium alternative we can make at will. I'm forgetting how it compares to trinium but it has the benefit of being able to be made at scale instead of mined limited by the gate.

What the US would have to leverage is superior manufacturing infrastructure and exports. Even with the exports we have a lot of raw material coming from space.
 
I'm also interested in how the American government and the SGC in particular might be integrated into our faction.

American itself could bring in a lot of resources, personnel and infrastructure.

While the SGC could become another base for us and would have a lot of data on planets they've been to.

In particular I'd love to grab SG1 for our side.
 
Not even we have N coming in per turn using our ships and we have a Trinium alternative we can make at will.
You mean Svartur-Crete? It's good but I haven't seen any comparisons between the two materials. Also we don't know how much Naquadah the SGC have in comparison to our asteroid(s).
I'm also interested in how the American government and the SGC in particular might be integrated into our faction.
The Americans aren't going to want to integrate into our faction. They're going to want us (and the rest of the TIC) to integrate into theirs. Them not being the senior/more powerful partner in the relationship is unacceptable.
 
What the US would have to leverage is superior manufacturing infrastructure and exports. Even with the exports we have a lot of raw material coming from space.
The more we spec into automation and global cooperation the less this will be desirable. Once we have automated mining ships bringing material to automated factories the US will lose most of their leverage and I don't see the Americans humbling themselves to mere partners in that timeframe.
 
The Americans aren't going to want to integrate into our faction. They're going to want us (and the rest of the TIC) to integrate into theirs. Them not being the senior/more powerful partner in the relationship is unacceptable
Well then I foresee a long and rough negotiation ahead because we aren't going to willingly integrate into the SGC as a junior partner considering how far we've progressed and the fact that the Americans are the ones that put earth In danger.

Considering the IOA and Atlantis expedition was a thing in canon at least let's us know cooperation is possible.
 
American itself could bring in a lot of resources, personnel and infrastructure.
They do but the issue is that is divided by different factions in their government along with some incompetent and some corrupt people sitting on the top.

Also we don't know how much Naquadah the SGC have in comparison to our asteroid(s).
Ya but SGC is limited by trade agreements and the gate. While we have a very long term cache of N thats only limitation is output we can expand if we wish.

So they're limited by gate times and dimensions mostly while we're only limited to supply and mining ships that can't be contested like other planets or competing for gate use.

Edit: If we wanted to be malicious we could lock the SGC out of getting any off world resources by locking in the gates control panel and becoming the primary gate for earth.

Considering the IOA and Atlantis expedition was a thing in canon at least let's us know cooperation is possible.
That wasn't really cooperation, that was America at the head. Look at the number of ships each country was allowed by the end. With Russia having two and China having one. They had to scrape and beg for those ships. Russia getting two while renting out the gate.
 
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And the really fun thing is with the drone tech we unlocked:
Result: Can add several autonomous weapon-drones to ships without taking up a system slot. The Exact number per ship depends on ship size. Can build "Bit Defences" to Ottartail base. ??? sweating.
We won't even need to consider the F-302s if and when the US figure them out. We'll have anti-small craft options on every ship without having to dedicate the space needed for a conventional hanger bay etc.

To use a Macross comparison, they'll be trying to sell us VF-171s when we can spam AIF-9V Ghosts at a problem.
 
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