Stargate Canadian Safe Harbor (Stargate AU)

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The ammo problem is not that bad due to Asgard interference you would only carry 75% round compared to your normal ammunition.
Oh... ok. New plan. Naquadah powered magic space cement armored power frames wielding heavy bolters. Gatecrashing is a lot less dangerous if you do it in an 8 foot tall heavy armor frame capable of shrugging of a staff blast or two armed with a rapidfire explosive gun.

We should probably work on ways to mass produce the bolters. Go 40k on all the factions. I can't think of anything save the energy shield that would stop this on the ground. I wonder if we can upsize this for ships.
Fun fact, goauld personal shields don't stop low velocity weapons. A bolter round acclerates as it travels, so has low velocity right out the barrel. Non-zero chance they are slow enough to pass through at close range.
 
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Reaction: "EAT BOTLER ROUNDS YOU GUD-DAMN SNAKES!!! FOR THE EMPEROR! CANADA!" Maniacal Chuckling heheehehehe!!

Now that I have that out of my system. Foredeged Sword "Oh... ok. New plan. Naquadah powered magic space cement armored power frames wielding heavy bolters. Gatecrashing is a lot less dangerous if you do it in an 8 foot tall heavy armor frame capable of shrugging of a staff blast cannon fire or two armed with a rapidfire explosive gun." I have fixed that for you.
We are so going to make the Prometheus look like a child's toy...

Edit: @prince84 Will Saturn's ring repair it'self over time? I hate that we accidentally blew a hole in it.
 
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I personaly am very interested if the Sarkophagus is another example of Goauld making their devices while drunk and on the drugs.

Because if we can make copies that work without the bad side effect of prolonged or multiple uses turning people in assholes then we get the best medical device ever.


They can resurecct recently dead, cure every wound or injury that didn't made a mush of the brain and can even stop aging and cure genetic defects.
 
[X] Plan we scratch your back you scratch ours
[X] +1 research
[X] culture
[X] etiquette
[X]reasons for technology restrictions
[X]do you want to examine the ancients server
[X]can we help with the maintenance work you were doing
 
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X] Plan we scratch your back you scratch ours
[X] +1 research
[X] culture
[X] etiquette
[X]reasons for technology restrictions
[X]do you want to examine the ancients server
[X]can we help with the maintenance work you were doing
 
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[X] +1 Research

Edit ; Questions for Asgard
[X] Ask about what kind of help the Asgard would be willing to give at this point in time.
[X] Ask about Asgard's involvement in the Milky Way galaxy.
[X] Ask about the Ancients and if they would be interested in helping with the Ancient Server.
[X] Ask about any races in this galaxy that we should avoid or seek to approach.
[X] Ask about Major Asgard individuals so we can identify any we might run into.
 
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[X] +1 Research
Disregard petty concerns such as money and construction capacity, acquire infinite cosmic power through research.

We can always just build more construction drones, anyway. Though, I get the feeling research projects are going to get more expensive and lengthy the further we go down the tech tree, or eke into more sophisticated tech like the Asgard, so we're going to need some extra revenue sources in the future given how heavily we're investing in it. Rightly so, tech wins the day in Stargate, if they never made the Prometheus, humanity wouldn't have had a chance, and as Stargate progresses, interstellar supremacy becomes increasingly critical. Also Anubis has plenty of his own bullshitium too, like the Kull immortal soldiers or literal magic, and may take Earth more seriously in this timeline.

Patenting ferracrete would probably make a fuckton for us, at the cost of the US and Ruskies using it and maybe even Ba'al and any other hiding Goa'uld. We need larger ships too, we'll probably need more die, 'vettes probably won't cut it against, say, the Wraith. We should get some more in the pipeline next turn, I don't feel that safe with what little we have. We'll have massive issues if we're forced to rely on a SG-1 miracle to save our asses too.

Also, I fully expect butterflies once we start using the Gate. Even without, we have, what, a few years before Anubis invades Antarctica?

Then there's the fact that a significant amount of SG-1s successes relied on luck, and basically the fate of Earth was repetitively thrown on the backs of 4 people, and in some scenarios they actually did fail, but timetravelled and fixed things retroactively. Since this isn't canon, I fully expect things to go awry at some point, not that they can truly be blamed, when they had pretty balls support, are using primitive tech, with a fragment of the forces they're dealing with,. At least, until the Prometheus was built. In SG-1, the army really didn't do the R&D thing, it was more 'find/acquire complete tech', rather than 'research alien tech'. This is likely because they have an army mentality, rather than a civilian one. After all, Daniel became an immortal magic space wizard through his interest in alien culture. Contrast with Sam, who, while very intelligent, rarely goes past that step without an immediate crisis.

Anyways, a good example, which I look forward to, is the Aschen, which is a couple years down the line, going by canon timeframes (not necessarily relevant, since OP can play fast and loose with time, esp. with butterflies). Now, in canon, the USA negotiates with the Aschen to trade gate info for technology and assistance against the Goa'uld, while the Aschen actually planned to surrepticiously sterilize humanity while simply breeding humanity into becoming a minority, and engage in historical revisionism and brainwashing to those who were left to turn them into serfs for their new farmworld. Conquering through blood, not battle.

Anyways, they have all sorts of neat tech, like an anti-aging vaccine. Temporal immortality that they all, use, we just gotta strip the sterilization component that was added to it for humans. Also, they have no Iris.
 
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Is there an omake policy for this game? I have a vision of our Asgard guest watching somebody playing StarCraft and making CMC-400 power armor as a drunken challenge. That armor would be perfect for Gate, well, anything.
 
I don't feel that safe with what little we have. We'll have massive issues if we're forced to rely on a SG-1 miracle to save our asses too.

I feel a lot safer now that we have our doom sphere. For a hole in the ring of Saturn to be visible on earth with a civilian grade telescope means that the hole is at least the size of a small moon.

And honestly I can see how a much better doom sphere can be made using tungsten instead of iron. Since copper is enough for artificial gravity and iron went through the building when we tested it, by that logic the denser the material used the greater the effect will be.
 
I personaly am very interested if the Sarkophagus is another example of Goauld making their devices while drunk and on the drugs.

Because if we can make copies that work without the bad side effect of prolonged or multiple uses turning people in assholes then we get the best medical device ever.


They can resurecct recently dead, cure every wound or injury that didn't made a mush of the brain and can even stop aging and cure genetic defects.
The sarcophagus were made based on the ancient device that was too powerful for humans. It was watered down so they could work. The side effects were there with the original ancient device so unlikely we can fix that. We could water it down some more and maybe lose rez for healing. Or use the rez one or two times so people don't lose it. Have a psychiatrist ok stand by for when they start developing the issues associated with it.
 
I feel a lot safer now that we have our doom sphere. For a hole in the ring of Saturn to be visible on earth with a civilian grade telescope means that the hole is at least the size of a small moon.

And honestly I can see how a much better doom sphere can be made using tungsten instead of iron. Since copper is enough for artificial gravity and iron went through the building when we tested it, by that logic the denser the material used the greater the effect will be.

And? We have no real deployment mechanism and it is so damn volatile that we'd be liable to destroy our own ships with it. Missiles are slow as fuck, and this isn't even that. We could, with some work, turn them into mines, I guess.

Still might work against particularly dumb or arrogant Goa'uld, but, especially given the cost, they're used far better as a gatebomb against stategic targets like shipyards or any Ori, with some hefty future research required to get around the layers of Ori bullshit. To be frank, even if we shot it, a Goa'uld staff cannon/pd can fairly easily shoot it as it launches, thereby resulting in us destroying much of our own fleet. Missile weapons are pretty shit in space as anything but point-defense, but even then, a good laser is probably better. Speed is key, and they can even be shot down making them even worse.

Though, we don't have basic ass lasers yet, let alone damaging lasers, and they tend to either be expensive, either in terms of dosh or energy, while kinetics are cheap. Missiles do, however, do a metric fuckton of damage if they can hit. Bumrushing them with our 'vettes is our best bet tactically, since only at knifefight ranges do missiles become terrifying.

EDIT: come to think of it, an idea. Design a tanky as fuck larger ship, mediocre speed, but a gorillion shields, missiles, and use them in knifefight range while the rest of the armada uses full long-range lasers, 1 shield, corvette, and speedy.
 
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Just realized that the Asgard probably didn't notice the simple issue with snake shields and maybe their tech too. The Asgard we have asked how did you get a more powerful shield without changing anything about the design. Meaning they've seen the schematics and probably didn't notice the simple issues.

Edit: Missles are longer ranges then Hatak attack vessels. We can easily take them out from range. Escort our missles in using fighters or deploy from fighters. We can make those now that we have batteries.

I'm tempted to do ramjet next turn. That should be what the Americans are doing with their interceptor based on the snakes tech. I wonder if we missed the first interaction the hybrid fighter.

Edit: We need to find ways to increase the mods on our intrigue section. I'm tempted just to give Jade a blank check and see what she comes up with.
 
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If I'm right we should be up to 5 learning actions next turn, I'd like to use 2 for ship based tech (would like lasers), 1 on off world troops (personal shields) and 2 on other tech (naquadah reactor).

I would also like to check out those new businesses, scan mars for anything interesting and finally get around to backtracking the mines. (Win or loose I want to finish that action!)

Edit; I'm curious if we should consider sending up a couple more observation modules to help cover the solar system, we could attach one onto the shipyard then have a deep space station near Pluto.

Do we also need to design new modules for the space stations or would we only need to suggest them for the stewardship action to build and deploy them?
 
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Is there an omake policy for this game? I have a vision of our Asgard guest watching somebody playing StarCraft and making CMC-400 power armor as a drunken challenge. That armor would be perfect for Gate, well, anything.
We take omakes and even have a bounty board for ones being actively looked for.
off world troops (personal shields)
Personal shields require figuring out how to make Naquadah power cells. For those, I have left narrative hints on how to make them in the results of two different research options. Hint check the OG investigation of the cell and think where the missing requirement turned up in another research result.
Do we also need to design new modules for the space stations or would we only need to suggest them for the stewardship action to build and deploy them?
If they are simple just a stewardship action, more high-tech/complex modules need to be researched first.
 
Personal shields require figuring out how to make Naquadah power cells. For those, I have left narrative hints on how to make them in the results of two different research options. Hint check the OG investigation of the cell and think where the missing requirement turned up in another research result.
Oh, fair enough.

For actions that we don't have the prerequisites for you might want to mark them clearly so we can't put them in a plan.

Edit; what is the situation involving off world bases? Are we allowed to set them up on planets in the local solar system? What are the parameters for setting up bases through the Stargate?
 
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[X] +1 Research

[X] Ask about what kind of help the Asgard would be willing to give at this point in time.
[X] Ask about Asgard's involvement in the Milky Way galaxy.
[X] Ask about the Ancients and if they would be interested in helping with the Ancient Server.
[X] Ask about any races in this galaxy that we should avoid or seek to approach.
[X] culture
 
Canon Omake: Midnight In Space
We take omakes and even have a bounty board for ones being actively looked for.
Okay then!

***

Omake: Midnight In Space

The Lieutenant walked swiftly down the hall, clenching his report in his hand. He slowed, when he neared the Asgard's "quarters", a relatively spartan set of maintenance rooms that had been modified for its use.

Aliens, and a literal Gray as the Americans would put it. Amazing times we live in, the Lieutenant thought.

He hit the bell and a soft chime drifted in the air, indicating approval, and straightening his uniform he entered. The room had changed, the lights reduced to an intensity more suited for the Asgard - Vaettir, he reminded himself - and his more sensitive eyes. Tools and equipment, modified from human standard, lay in neatly arranged but complex patterns on a large table in the corner, while the other corner held the most comfortable cot on the station. One wall held an archway to another room.

Neither was occupied, however, instead a bulky human computer - again modified - sitting in the other corner, bathing the room in a harsher light from the boxy monitor.

The Asgard turned to him, his eyes slowly blinking. "You are different," he finally said.

"Lieutenant James Atkinson, your appointed liaison for whatever you need during your stay with us. Your prior liaison had to rotate back home." Atkinson hesitated. "I've been briefed on everything that's occurred since your arrival, so I should be able to help with -" He paused, looking at the screen more intently. "Pardon me, is that a video game?"

Vaettir moved his back, revealing a paused game showing a crudely pixelated battlefield in progress. "An excellent battle simulator. Your engineer Smith introduced me to this, called "StarCraft "." Vaettir paused. "Not much crafting, but it is irrelevant. Fascinating alien races, but my interest is in the Terrans."

"My son plays this a lot, it's very popular apparently. Why are you interested in the human faction - are they human?"

"Yes, human in origin, but distant political exiles. Like your Australia, from what I have learned from your records." You nodded along, noticing a large electronic tablet next to him, which Vaettir had apparently been taking notes on, a mix of Asgard and human parts. "As exiles they have been ingenious with design elements. This game shows the creativity of your species, and your perpetual interest in space."

Atkinson lifted his bundle of reports,catching Vaettir's attention. "I was sent to ask about your order for a diverse amount of alcoholic beverages. Is it...part of this?"

Vaettir stood up, grabbing his tablet, gesturing to Atkinson to follow him. "No, but I have enjoyed drinking with your engineers, so I wish to find which human drinks are most compatible with Asgard physiology. I enjoy their company, despite the gap in common ground between us."

Atkinson grinned. "What's your favorite so far?"

Reaching under the table, Vaettir pulled out a requisitioned crate, the clanking of glass and plastic bottles showing his intent. Finally he emerged, a large brown bottle in his grip. "Plum wine," he stated. "Sweet, charming. Can enjoy without impairing my faculties to unacceptable margins. My current project will not allow for that."

"Project? Like the Bolters you designed? I enjoyed firing those at the range, but they were pretty big."

"Designed for bioengineered warriors, true. And yes, follow me."

Atkinson blinked as the lights came on in the other chamber as they entered, some kind of motion sensor he presumed. The lighting was still dim, but he could see well enough the piles of material strewn about - sheets of metal, piles of fiber optic cable, circuitry, and several elements of Asgardian make, scavenged from his pod he assumed. A large armor stand stood against the back wall, with parts of what seemed like a chest plate and arm on it. "Armor?"

Vaettir seemed to straighten in pride. "I have been inspired again. Our treaty says nothing about aiding a lesser species with their own technologies, and while crude much of what your species has imagined in that game is possible. I am attempting to make the power armor of the Terran Marine, so that your soldiers may be better protected when travelling through Stargates onto strange alien worlds."

Atkinson whistled, looking around further. He could slabs of the new svartircrete, as well as a few bars of unknown liquids. On the wall wasa blown up picture of what he assumed was artwork from the game, two Marines standing on a barren dead world similar to Earth's moon. "They look big. What are these suits capable of?"

"Full nuclear, biological, and chemical protection, with a sealed air supply capable of 12 hours of recycling in a vacuum. Resistant to 8mm steel spikes fired at hypersonic velocities, though apparently depleted uranium rounds are "armor piercing" within the game. A smart interface built into the helmet. Intuitive controls for manipulating the suit and navigating complex environments in multiple battlefield scenarios. Fuel cells to power it, though your recently developed thermal batteries should suffice in that regard." Vaettir looked at a half-built helmet on a small table. "Once finished, it will be my greatest work. For now."

"I know that every soldier in Canada would kill to have one, so your gift certainly won't go unappreciated. How can I help?"

"I need materials, specifically carbon."

Atkinson blinked. "Carbon? Pretty basic stuff. Why?"

"I can improve the suits weight and multiple elements of it's functionality if I have access to carbon, as specialized tubules and sheets on a nanoscopic level can provide strength while being lighter than most metals. I have looked into carbon dioxide your filters automatically scrub from the station's air, but it is not enough. I am building a recycler, but I need carbon mass. Even impure materials would work, as the recycler will filter what I need from what I do not."

Atkinson laughed. "Lete get you hooked up with maintenance, they should have everything you need there. Now, about testing...I want in."

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Consider this my contribution to the thread. May we stomp Goauld under our boots! I can't sleep, so this is the result.

Techs (potentially) gained:
- 1 CMC-400 Power Armor (with carbon nanotube and graphene "improvements") (prototype). Has to be researched to get mass producible version.
- 1 "recycler": can process any material put into it, organic or not, into constituent elements. Would have to research to build homegrown version.
- 1 nanotube/graphene/carbon fiber extractor: makes 1 kilogram of whatever type you want per hour. Computer interface included on the side. Has to be researched to get homegrown version.
 
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[X] +1 Research

[X] Ask about what kind of help the Asgard would be willing to give at this point in time.
[X] Ask about Asgard's involvement in the Milky Way galaxy.
[X] Ask about the Ancients and if they would be interested in helping with the Ancient Server.
[X] Ask about any races in this galaxy that we should avoid or seek to approach.
[X] culture
 
Techs gained:
- 1 CMC-400 Power Armor (with carbon nanotube and graphene "improvements") (prototype). Has to be researched to get mass producible version.
- 1 "recycler": can process any material put into it, organic or not, into constituent elements. Would have to research to build homegrown version.
- 1 nanotube/graphene/carbon fiber extractor: makes 1 kilogram of whatever type you want per hour. Computer interface included on the side. Has to be researched to get homegrown version.

Nice omake, though I feel like all of those Techs are a bit optimistic, don't think we'll be that lucky!
 
Nice omake, though I feel like all of those Techs are a bit optimistic, don't think we'll be that lucky!

I have to agree. The CMC-400 Power Armor is a bit much for first time effort. Good omake but that's just too much. Think of a power armor that looks like a good first step to that. Remember we have had the tech for powered armor since the 60-70s the two main hurdles were always weight and power source.
 
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