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Luke and Leia's genetic donors are Anakin and Padme, who they grew up to be was influenced more by their adoptive family.
Star Wars: The Chosen One (An Anakin Skywalker Quest)
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Luke and Leia's genetic donors are Anakin and Padme, who they grew up to be was influenced more by their adoptive family.
Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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@Arthellion How long will the vote be open?
Ave Anathema
Ave Imperator
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and luke and leia are themselves because of who they grew to be not who their parents were
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Palpatine just dying.....yeah nope. The plot to take over the Republic has been in the works of centuries. The Trade Federation invasion of Naboo was to place Palpatine as Supreme Councellar of the Republic and to create upset over the Republic form of government. He created a war where he controlled both sides to get more power, win no matter what, and kill a bunch of Jedi. That kind of plan isn't going to suddenly disappear due to wishful thinking.
The thing about being a Jedi is that we are brought to his attention. As a Jedi we go on Palpatine's to kill list. If we are the Chosen One, we are either on the to kill list or have to serve him and fight off never ending assassination/torture/mind rape attempts to prove our worth. It is better to avoid that entire drama.
All the contacts and people we meet while with the Jedi are probably going to be killed off or will try and turn us in for a reward. The Rebellion is a small sub-set of the total population and resources, that is why it is a Rebellion. The common people, which is the majority will want nothing to do with the Jedi. The longer we survive and the more other Jedi are killed off the more resources will be devoted into hunting us down.
Why go though all that drama when we can get a Master elsewhere? Or training with an obscure group so people don't realize we are a Jedi?
Yoda and Obi-Wan did quite well living out in the middle of no where. That was literally the ONLY way to avoid the Emperor as a known Jedi.
Trouble coming to us, doesn't mean we have to seek it out our put ourselves in a bad position. Choices matter. There is limited time. Repeat that. If we focus on Charisma, our combat/stealth abilities will be lower. The order doesn't offer much more than other Jedi sects. It is not like we can take the library with us. So what better resources? I am honestly confused at what you mean at that. Friendly contacts will be killed off by the Emperor. Accounts will be frozen/seized. A lightsaber, we can make our own with Sith knowledge so....the Coruscant Jedi don't help there.
Safety in numbers, when has that worked for the Jedi or Sith? It just makes a bigger target to bombard from orbit and wipe out an entire planet.
I think the problem here is that the only way we can beat him is Meta knowledge and w/e changes the QM gives, otherwise we stand no real chance if he still exists
Or not fight him until we can win for sure. Time is our ally long term. In the short term while we are weak, we need to hide and survive. Not draw attention to ourselves.
Just look at how many Jedi survived. The odds are not good. Never quote you the odds? Well it works until it doesn't and we die get captured/mind raped/tortured to death/insanity.
Then join him? Serious on that one.I think the problem here is that the only way we can beat him is Meta knowledge and w/e changes the QM gives, otherwise we stand no real chance if he still exists
Yoda and Obi-wan got precisely nowhere hiding in the ass end of the galaxy.
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Then it really will be cannon 2.0. The moment we get too strong Palpatine will kill us. That is the way of the Sith. It is a lot of pointless drama. The same with being chased after during the Purge. We will spend a lot of time/energy/resources all devoted to hiding and running. It just isn't worth it.
EDIT: I would rather go on exciting adventures and ignore all that drama.
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If my parents were different than who had me, even if my name was the same I have now, I would not be who I am. The same applies to Luke and Leia. Even if we were to have children with someone else and name them Luke and Leia they wouldn't be Luke and Leia.
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Its already been pointed out by the GM that Palpatine may not be the Sith Lord. We may be looking at some other Sith Lord, perhaps Plageuis, or possibly someone we've never heard of.
On another note, I'm pretty sure our GM isn't going to throw us against whoever the Sith is if we have zero chance of winning.
Honestly people, you're letting fear of a possible outcome cloud your judgement.
...just like canon Anakin.
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
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So Palpatine is immune to the dice fucking his plans up?
That's not how it works and you know it.
Chronobreak
Chara Appreciator
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The Fool doesn't choose the beaten path! He recklessly charges forward on his road of self discovery!
The Fool doesn't choose the beaten path! He recklessly charges forward on his road of self discovery!
Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
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Well no matter what (barring Canon Shenanigans) were not having canon Luke and Leia, Neither Nature, nor Nuture
The Order does have many exclusive resources, but I disagree that the training will be more diverse at the Jedi Temple. We'll also be locked out of many other sources (like Sith holocrons) by picking the Jedi.
The main draw for the Jedi seems to be that they will teach lightsaber skills, but we'll be able to learn much of that and many Force skills from holocrons or other teachers. Other skills like Strategy may increase faster under Arden or be unavailable with the Jedi.
We might even have more freedom to travel if we can convince Arden/our superiors that we're the Chosen One or that the Force has a destiny planned for us and we are guided elsewhere. The Jedi did think Anakin was the Chosen One but were more concerned with controlling him than listening to him and letting him grow.
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Gardener of Human Happiness
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The QM even told us not to base our decision on fear of Sheev. Can you guys atleast do that?
Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
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It IS kind of hard, If he isn't there then Meh, but if the QM decides that IT IS in fact Palpatine, then were in trouble and need to work hyper hard, assuming that we even know either way right away.
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Okay so let's adress some of the issues here.
Trying to avoid trouble will not work. The main argument you made originally was it getting boring living in th Jedi temple. I was proving you wrong. Now you turn around and say the Jedi Temple is bad because it won't be boring? What? Seriously?
Next. Our growth rate has already been said by the GM to be massive. As in, at some point we will be able to bitch slap Palpatine. Overall we can easily afford to multi task and still come out great, The GM also said that he like writing this quest and doesn't want to see Anakin die and won't throw us in the deep ends. So you're argument here is meaningless.
It actually also has a connection to your argument about the other Jedi Sects. The QM has pointed out multiple times that we get better knowledge access and also going to the temple let's us be trained in Lightsabre combat without having to sit around waiting for a Holocron which may or may not have the combat style we want. You say you don't want us to compromise our training? Going to the place that only teaches martial arts instead of sword skills and martial arts is literally the definition of that. Well done with that argument there.
Finally on Palpy killing all our contacts. I'm pretty sure that he failed to do that fully in Canon and would've failed to kill his main contacts had Anakin not joined him. He's an in the shadow player. But he's not a god and some of the contacts will be legends in the canon period. With our Anakin helping them they'll be even greater. So that's a weak argument there as well.
Overall you're argument seems to contradict itself at several points and you seem to be shifting some goalposts. I get you don't want to follow canon but we don't need to pick the lesser option to do so.
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Think I've decided. It will be open until 1pm tomorrow. Or in 18 hours
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So..the balance quest line. Anyone want to take a stab at this and see if we can get more perks/chosen points by discussing it?
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*Sigh* holocrons are rare and hard to find. The Force is bullshit but it can't magic up everything. We'd have to spend time trying to find them. Time we would've used making strong allies or training in the Temple.
Again with Holocrons it's a bit and miss, we most likely won't get the Lightsabre style we want first time from the Holocrons we find, we'll have to search for specific ones, which again, is inefficient. Furthermore we need a Lightsabre to train to use Lightsabre styles, something we won't get with Arden. So yeah it really hurts attempts at getting a Lightsabre.
Also that last If is a big if. In Canon Yoda, a Master seer, couldn't tell if Anakin was the chosen one. The Followers certainly don't have that kind of skill, even after Anakin shows himself to be a great Jedi, he wasn't declared the chosen one, so that won't help us there either.
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Basically the short of it is a group of individuals from disparate backgrounds come together into a band of misfits and strike back against the Trade Federation during the Naboo blockade with events running concurrently to Phantom Menace.
Some highlights of what the band of misfits do:
a. Destroy a Trade Federation droid factory helping to supply droids for the occupation (IIRC)
b. Run the blockade and reach Naboo.
c. Once on Naboo, deliver must needed munitions and supplies to the resistance
d. Liberated a Trade Federation camp that was holding Nabooian prisoners
e. Defend a Nabooian forces' outpost against Trade Federation attack (occurring simultaneously with the Gungan battle IIRC elsewhere)
f. Finally, participated in the attack on the Droid Command Ship.
Misfits included:
Nym- a notorious pirate, notable for having minimal bloodshed in his operations, favoring speed and effectiveness instead of cruelty and violence, flies a heavily modified starfighter he named the Havoc.
Vana- A mercenary initially hired by the Trade Federation to capture Nym. Which she manages... and then was double crossed by the TF, eventually leading her to join forces with Nym and Rhys in striking back against the TF in vengeance.
Rhys Dallows- A Nabooian starfighter pilot, was part of the escort of the Royal Starship before being ambushed by the Trade Federation, resulting in his fighter being disabled (while the ship Padme and co. were on escapes) and rescued by a passing salvager.
Nym's pirate crew also participated IIRC.
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If they get discovered they will most likely be confiscated, especialy if the SITH holocron gets found.
The family we won't see for years no matter which option is chosen due to the whole intense training thing
Well thats nice to know
We would have TWO holocrons to learn from and would get trained in a fighting style made to deal with people who use lightsabers.
This could be fun but methinks its a bit unlikely.
This. This right here.
Mesa tink yousa need to need to keep that your self.
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Its already been pointed out by the GM that Palpatine may not be the Sith Lord. We may be looking at some other Sith Lord, perhaps Plageuis, or possibly someone we've never heard of.
On another note, I'm pretty sure our GM isn't going to through us against whoever the Sith is if we have zero chance of winning.
Honestly people, you're letting fear of a possible outcome cloud your judgement.
...just like canon Anakin.
The Depression was a thing. That means mind rape/torture is a thing. The Sith don't like sharing power. So if it isn't Palpatine then it will be another Sith. You don't get the invasion of Naboo and Maul (which we know is a thing) without the Sith being involved.
Once we go train wherever we decide, the training wheels will be off. The dice can and have a chance of killing us. There is a big difference between laying low and going to find trouble. Going with Qui-Gon is asking for all the heartache, headache, and other issues that the Jedi will have in the next two decades.
He said not to use the character sheet. I am using meta-knowledge. The character sheet makes him look like a cute kitten. Sure he might be over hyped, but do you really want to risk that? Being a Coruscanti Jedi is to paint a target on oneself. But if Maul is an apprentice then the Master is super hard core. So unless we are going super AU, then there is a very good reason to be afraid of the Sith. Better to try and locate them before they locate us. Which means no Jedi once again.
My main argument has been the danger of the Sith learning about us. The other stuff is just fluff compared to that. We can only bitch slap Palpatine if we have time for growth. We don't have that time if we have the same 13 years until he becomes Emperor. We need 30+ years to be able to go one on one through his minions and to kill him.
Not being thrown off the deep end is a big difference from everything going to hell once Palpatine takes power. The Martial Arts offers similar benefits to lightsaber combat. We can learn lightsaber combat elsewhere. The gain of getting an introduction pales in comparison to the associated risk. Being good with a lightsaber won't help us beat Palpatine, he pwnt 3 Masters at once. The loss to Windu is questionable if it was planned or not, so it can go either way.
Palpatine takes over the Jedi Temple and gets their database. He has the entire spy/military operation of the Republic and the Empire. He can take time to make a list of the Jedi and their key supporters. All Jedi will be declared criminals and hunted down. That means regular people will try to turn us in as a known Jedi wants he starts releasing faces and names. Then he will have Dark Siders looking for any remaining Jedi/Force Users as well.
It isn't so much about canon, but the sheer target becoming a Jedi puts on us. The only thing you have offered to counter that is, 'It might not happen.' That is a really weak argument when we have Naboo and Maul as evidence to the contrary. I don't want to fight a never ending stream of assassins and plots while trying to survive against a hostile government that will end up controlling all of known space.
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Ave Anathema
Ave Imperator
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A person is shaped by their experiences if they are to have their pasts altered like we seem to be trying to do in this quest they will fundamentally be dfferent people
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Here's the thing, if we're off laying low, we're probably not getting XP, so we're not advancing. If we start making waves, getting into adventures, than its going to come back to whoever the Sith Lord is, which defeats the purpose of laying low. So really, there's absolutely zero point in hiding out, and everything to gain by going to the Coruscanti Jedi, even with the risk from the Sith Lord.
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Citation really, really, really needed
This is your original post. In reply to my claim Art wouldn't let the quest be boring and that other Padawans had adventures.
This is what you claim you said. Big difference.
Finally you're constant constant scaremongering about Canon. Canon is in a canon according to Art. A bad dice roll for Palpy could kill him with a heart attack. The GM outright stated that voting influenced by a fear of Palpatine shouldn't be done as he is not going to follow canon at all as much as possible. Literally you are changing you're argument and straw meaning dude.
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[X] [Story] Leave with Master Zan and Join the Followers of Palawa
[X] [Story] Leave with Master Zan and Join the Followers of Palawa