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Star Wars: The Chosen One (An Anakin Skywalker Quest)

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Kalrotix said:
Yes, but people, even jedis could be convinced to change of sides. Even in the clone wars their were jedis who wanted be neutral who believed that they were in the wrong side. For example we could motivate Ayla with the perspective to liberate slaves of Ryloth. Who is one of the greatest hypocrisy of the republic.
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Arthellion said that the DC to recruit away Jedi was very high. And that was if Anakin was a Jedi himself. Now he'd be someone who left the Order.
 
Erzherzog_Karl said:
I´m not that well versed in star wars lore, but could someone explain to me what the difference is between what Douko does now with us and what Obi Wan did OTL ?
Did Anakin go through the normal initiate process OTL? Ithought he got Obi Wan directly after Naboo.
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So in cannon, Obi-Wan was knighted immediately after Naboo for killing a Sith/Dark Force User. He was then able to take on a Padawan and immediately chose Anakin as the last wish of Qui-Gon.

In this quest, Obi-Wan was killed off by Darth Maul and Anakin was more neutral/light side and not viewed as the Chosen One. Therefore they made him an initiate until he was at least 12. If he didn't get a master by that time he would be let out of the Order.

Dooku is currently leaving the Order which he did in cannon because his apprentice Qui-Gon was killed. He really disliked the corruption in the Republic after failing to change things and went looking for the Sith instead of being passive like the rest of the Jedi. He ran into Palpatine who convinced Dooku to join him in order to fix the Republic.

It is unknown how much Dooku knew about killing off all the Jedi with Order 66 and how much he bought into the Sith. Sure he changed sides, but in a galaxy wide conflict there is only Sith/Jedi.

Random Member said:
Pfft, hahahahaha! Is that why so many of their high positions were filled by incompetent nincompoops?
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Because they were political people first and military commanders second. The Empire never had a real opposition force to fight against, so most promotions were political. Also ties into the fact that the military is pro-human from the pro-human/military faction in the Senate. Palpatine needed key supporters to remain in power for a while so he let the political promotions go on while looking for real talent like Thrawn. Thrawn was a personal choice by the Emperor, so Palpatine probably sensed how awesome sauce Thrawn was/is.
 
Anduril said:
Arthellion said that the DC to recruit away Jedi was very high. And that was if Anakin was a Jedi himself. Now he'd be someone who left the Order.
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Though with Dooku going and doing something about the Sith, some Jedi like e.g. Siri might think about joining this new splinter group. She has ample motivation to do so, after all.

Generally, I feel like Dooku right now is a bit like Revan 2.0. during the Mandalorian Wars.
 
Kalrotix said:
Yes, but people, even jedis could be convinced to change of sides. Even in the clone wars their were jedis who wanted be neutral who believed that they were in the wrong side. For example we could motivate Ayla with the perspective to liberate slaves of Ryloth. Who is one of the greatest hypocrisy of the republic
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I'm really tempted to say fuck Aayla, since I really don't see any appeal to her both as a character, friend or waifu, but I'll abstain since that's just me being salty and people have a right to like what character they want.
 
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DerHesse said:
Anakin could use solar power generators, solar collectors and solar towers to provide power to droids, factories and so on.
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He'd have to buy the metal to create the droids, factories, etc., and I'm not sure how he'd get that metal.
I guess he could just turn all of tattooine into a manufacturing/assembly planet.
But tbh at that point wouldn't it just be better to make a dyson orbital? Why are none of the jedi using their telekinesis to make dyson orbitals. /cries
 
Anduril said:
Arthellion said that the DC to recruit away Jedi was very high. And that was if Anakin was a Jedi himself. Now he'd be someone who left the Order.
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True, but even with that we will become a great negociator and politician. We will know how convince peoples.

Appirinia said:
I'm really tempted to say fuck, Aayla, since I really don't see any appeal to her both as a character, friend or waifu, but I'll abstain since that's just me being salty and people have a right to like what character they want.
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Well, I suppose that I can understand your point of view. if you permit I will not enter to far in the discussion to evit a possible new waifu wars :p . Personaly I realy like the character of Ayla in star wars and his character.
 
These Revan comparisons are out of hand. Revan was a one-of-a-kind force user, with unrivaled charisma, intelligence, and power. As Kreia said, looking at him was like staring into the heart of the Force.

So, Dooku definitely isn't Revan. Anakin -might- become Revan, if we played our cards correctly, and if that's what we want. I certainly am a great fan of Revan, but that doesn't make him the ideal template. And Anakin is a ten year old with many years ahead of him. Revan was shaped by particular circumstances and teachers, none of which are guaranteed to be replicated in the present.

As for Siri leaving, again: it call comes down to what you consider the major parts of her character. In canon, she was always loyal to the Order.
 
Kalrotix said:
Well, I suppose that I can understand your point of view. if you permit I will not enter to far in the discussion to evit a possible new waifu wars :p . Personaly I realy like the character of Ayla in star wars and his character.
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I don't mind people liking her, but I'm salty there's so much emphasis on waifus. I think if it ever comes to voting for one, I'll just abstain since I don't care either way.
 
PeliusAnar said:
Because they were political people first and military commanders second. The Empire never had a real opposition force to fight against, so most promotions were political.
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So were they political appointments or selected according to their merit? Because you can't be a meritocracy if most of your selections are for purely political reasons not related to their merit.
 
Anduril said:
These Revan comparisons are out of hand. Revan was a one-of-a-kind force user, with unrivaled charisma, intelligence, and power. As Kreia said, looking at him was like staring into the heart of the Force.

So, Dooku definitely isn't Revan. Anakin -might- become Revan, if we played our cards correctly, and if that's what we want. I certainly am a great fan of Revan, but that doesn't make him the ideal template. And Anakin is a ten year old with many years ahead of him. Revan was shaped by particular circumstances and teachers, none of which are guaranteed to be replicated in the present.

As for Siri leaving, again: it call comes down to what you consider the major parts of her character. In canon, she was always loyal to the Order.
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In canon Siri always had Obi-Wan in the Order. Now with him gone, it's a whole different ball game...and also with his legacy aka Anakin leaving to hunt down the Sith...I feel like joining Dooku some day down the road would be very appealing to her.
 
To provide my own take on this waifu-debate: Anakin is ten.

As for specific people (even beyond the waifu debate), it'd be best to resist the temptation to project your own ideal perceptions onto the characters. Aayla in particular: she's been de-aged and thus has a completely different story path than canon, even if her basic personality is probably similar. Don't pretend like we know who she is without spending more time to get to know her.
 
Revan certainly had the Center of the Force perk. He would also be a Full Master of Niman. Massive charisma. Battle meditation? Maybe and a very wide variety of Force power.
 
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DkArthas said:
Revan certainly had the Center of the Force perk. He would also be a Full Master of Niman. Massive charisma. Battle meditation? Maybe and a Very Wide variety of Force powers.
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Probably not Battle Meditation or Bastila's power and his would have cancelled each other out. He was just one of the best strategists and tacticians around.
 
Atri said:
In canon Siri always had Obi-Wan in the Order. Now with him gone, it's a whole different ball game...and also with his legacy aka Anakin leaving to hunt down the Sith...I feel like joining Dooku some day down the road would be very appealing to her.
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Well, this is from the Wookieepedia article...

"She was loyal to the Jedi Order and until after the mission to Kegan, she held Obi-Wan Kenobi's decision to temporarily leave the Order against him."

I don't pretend to really understand her character that well, so all I can say is that I'm doubtful on the direction which she'd be most inclined. Anyway, at the end of the day it would come down to a roll. So far Anakin has a history of either doing really well or really badly on such rolls so... May the dice be with you :V
 
drake_azathoth said:
I think people are overlooking that Qui-Gon and Ben Kenobi were really Anakin's example of the 'perfect' Jedi, the ones he decided toin the order to become one. Then the Council sends them off to Naboo and they die- and Anakin DOES blame the Council for sending them off unprepared- perhaps rightly. If the Jedi each had a dozen battle droids in tow then the fight with Darth Maul might have gone differently. We reach the point we're told Dooku, Qui-Gon's master, is leaving the order to search for the Sith and do something about them.

Then- and this is freaking important- Anakin meditates and experiences a vision of Obi-Wan Kenobi's death. The Jedi that first taught him how to sense life through the force. A pretty awesome guy, who rumor says was interested in being Anakin's master when he did graduate. I don't think you can overstate how important that vision was.

At this point, again- Qui Gon Jin's master, the guy who trained the guy who trained Obi Wan Kenobi, is going off to do something about the Sith. There is also an excellent chance he might be willing to do something about Anakin's family, who he has learned he can't communicate with as a Jedi Initiate and whom he had frightening visions about.

This is not Anakin leaving the Light Jedi Order to join the Dark Separatists. This is Anakin leaving a bunch of weird monks, (including a judgemental troll and a droning lecturer), to join a Master who actually has an interest in being practical and direct about things, the same Master who taught the the man who taught the man he was actually close to.
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Still not very convincing, tbh.

Maybe if Anakin had tighter bond with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan and knew them for far longer.
Maybe if Anakin has more time to have grown disillusioned with the Order and thought that they wouldn't be able to catch the Sith.
Maybe if Dooku wasn't almost a complete stranger.
And maybe if Anakin knew that Maul had probably killed his entire family.

And that's just off the top of my head. I guess it's a good thing that Anakin is an emotional, impulsive, dark aligned kid. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to buy this at all. As is, I'm just incredibly skeptical. I wish there could have at least been way more build up to this.

Aside from characterization issues, I am a little interested in how this is going to play out. Not sure if I like the idea of Separatist Anakin, but it should be interesting to see at the very least. All sort of stuff has happened differently. Who knows how the future is going to turn out?
 
There's a difference between being a fan of evil characters and arguing that the Empire was an objectively good government, admittedly.
 
Agent Whiskers said:
And that's just off the top of my head. I guess it's a good thing that Anakin is an emotional, impulsive, dark aligned kid. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to buy this at all. As is, I'm just incredibly skeptical. I wish there could have at least been way more build up to this.

Aside from characterization issues, I am a little interested in how this is going to play out. Not sure if I like the idea of Separatist Anakin, but it should be interesting to see at the very least. All sort of stuff has happened differently. Who knows how the future is going to turn out?
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Of course his characterization isn't consistent if people keep voting for different directions without really thinking where exactly it leaves us, because the ambition they want to complete is on the path they don't like and leaving with a master they only knew for a couple of hours sounds much better than fulfilling what has been the dream of the character as voted by most since he was freed from slavery. It's not @Arthellion's fault we can't decide and stick to one thing.
 
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