I missed that part when I was reading.

And yeah, looking at her alternate outfits on the wiki, I'd say Mir has a rather... questionable fashion sense.
Mir's fashion sense is that of a three hundred year old thirteen-year-old who doesn't want to be seen as a child, and who has no nudity taboo. Getting her to wear an oversized t-shirt was one of Shurelia's better ideas, but it does make her look like a grade schooler.

To be fair, it appears that her emotional maturity roughly matches her appearance. She just happens to be smart enough to deal with it through careful, measured thought.
 
She's simply not capable of building quickly enough on her own, and it took humanity many years to develop to that point at least in part because there was such a major investment in manhours required to get to the point it started to offer dividends. Of course, once that happened it started accelerating fast.
I marked this insightful at the time, because it is, but it just occurred to me that there actually is a way for her to overcome that problem.

Fly upwards. Keep going, all the way out of the solar system until you reach the Oort cloud; it should have one of those. Build your infrastructure there, where there's no weathering or bacteria to worry about.

There would still be immense difficulties. Frankly, it might take her decades or centuries, and it would be harder without having access to the chemical cocktails that life also brews. Still, without having her stuff up and rust away, it should be possible.

Maybe.

If she doesn't go comatose from boredom and depression. If the thought of wandering away from where she /might/ get found wasn't so scary. If, well... If she can live that long, with no true ability to perform maintenance on herself.

It's a highly theoretical option.
 
It's a highly theoretical option.

Also not guaranteed to work. Sure, it'd solve a lot of the rust and other oxidation and rot related issues, but space is at the same time not exactly hospitable either. And you need an energy source to work with, a planet in the goldielocks zone has literal megatons of something that you could adapt available right there, rather unlike the Oort cloud.
 
I marked this insightful at the time, because it is, but it just occurred to me that there actually is a way for her to overcome that problem.

Fly upwards. Keep going, all the way out of the solar system until you reach the Oort cloud; it should have one of those. Build your infrastructure there, where there's no weathering or bacteria to worry about.

There would still be immense difficulties. Frankly, it might take her decades or centuries, and it would be harder without having access to the chemical cocktails that life also brews. Still, without having her stuff up and rust away, it should be possible.

Maybe.

If she doesn't go comatose from boredom and depression. If the thought of wandering away from where she /might/ get found wasn't so scary. If, well... If she can live that long, with no true ability to perform maintenance on herself.

It's a highly theoretical option.

That doesn't really help that much. Sure, her things have less need for maintenance in space because there isn't any of that pesky oxygen to make metals rust or dust to gather in inconvenient places up there, but working there means dealing with other problems like working with anything without the help of Gravity, an atmosphere or easy access to the many chemicals produced by nature.

She could try to carry finished equipment from the planet to Space to circumvent those problems, but that would probably run into other problems, like lift capacity and actually producing the equipment and supplies in the first place, and I don't think Atmospheric Reentry feels very pleasant either.
 
I don't think Atmospheric Reentry feels very pleasant either.
We only do atmospheric entry the way we do in the current world because it's very cheap fuel wise. For some one like her who seemingly has effectively infinite power, she could just hover sedately in to the atmosphere and thus skip the entire burning entrance.
 
We only do atmospheric entry the way we do in the current world because it's very cheap fuel wise. For some one like her who seemingly has effectively infinite power, she could just hover sedately in to the atmosphere and thus skip the entire burning entrance.
That mean that we'd do atmospheric exit via hover as well if we had x power/fuel available? As that'd be quite handy.
 
That mean that we'd do atmospheric exit via hover as well if we had x power/fuel available? As that'd be quite handy.
Slower entry and exits would make the stress on the aerospace frame less severe, so if you some how had an engine/fuel so incredible that it would make this affordable, then yeah you might very well consider doing this.
 
That mean that we'd do atmospheric exit via hover as well if we had x power/fuel available? As that'd be quite handy.
So, about a thousand bottles of the Fenwick Grand Royal, an imperfect Saturn V booster shell, and a bunch of Shower heads then?
 
Nah. The height of the atmosphere of Earth is 100km. Skydivers can do 300km/h without injuries from heating. So about 20 minutes.

The atmosphere is not very deep in an absolute sense.

If you're coming in from deep space, even if you're not aerobraking you still want to skim as close as possible to the atmosphere, at least if your acceleration is based on change in velocity - at high orbital velocity, your energy expenditure is more effective, as per the Oberth effect. Or you can use a moon fly-by to brake a bit beforehand, if there is a moon.

KSP is really good for getting a feeling for stuff like this.

[edit] Correction: Oberth effect only applies for rocket engines, my apologies. Antigravity or direct energy-to-velocity engines will probably get no benefit. Then again, those are hax anyways...
 
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[edit] Correction: Oberth effect only applies for rocket engines, my apologies. Antigravity or direct energy-to-velocity engines will probably get no benefit. Then again, those are hax anyways...
Hana's flight is through direct gravity manipulation: She's falling upwards.

Doesn't change the fact that reactionless drives are nonsensical under our laws of physics. Then again, she doesn't obey those laws of physics...
 
I heard it took like an hour or more for the highest skydive from a helium balloon to fall to the earth.

Anyway, I have a more important question.

Did Hana even grew or did her clothes grew with her? Because she's like eight or nine when she first appeared.
 
Did Hana even grew or did her clothes grew with her? Because she's like eight or nine when she first appeared.
Depends which one of the canon Reyvateil she's closest to. If she was Beta, I'd say 'her' - body and clothes - are less biological flesh and more tiny nanobots very good at mimicking it. If first gen, then she's a literal metal robot. Third gen, bio human with a few tweaks.

She's a fusion of Reyvateil and Fog, though, so I got no clue.
 
Considering that Hana isn't even really made of atoms, it isn't like there is an easy way for her to obtain materials to get bigger in the Metroid universe. Of course, she can sing more of herself into existence (the specifics behind this depend a lot on what she's made of and how she supports herself in a universe with different physical laws, but it's theoretically possible) but that just means that if she wants to grow it's likely that she'll have to do it on purpose. Her clothes are, I believe, part of herself.
 
Depends which one of the canon Reyvateil she's closest to. If she was Beta, I'd say 'her' - body and clothes - are less biological flesh and more tiny nanobots very good at mimicking it. If first gen, then she's a literal metal robot. Third gen, bio human with a few tweaks.

She's a fusion of Reyvateil and Fog, though, so I got no clue.
If she's made entirely out of of Nanomaterials then she can't grow up unless she either gets more Nanomaterials to increase her volume, and thus her size, or she redistributes her current amount so she looks older.

in that case, unless her growth is controlled subconsciously, I doubt she looks any older now. Not that it's a big problem or anything, she'll probably make herself look older so she can blend in properly, once she gets off that planet and meets other people.
 
Depends which one of the canon Reyvateil she's closest to. If she was Beta, I'd say 'her' - body and clothes - are less biological flesh and more tiny nanobots very good at mimicking it. If first gen, then she's a literal metal robot. Third gen, bio human with a few tweaks.

She's a fusion of Reyvateil and Fog, though, so I got no clue.

Not really though: the Betas' clothes aren't really part of them, and the costume change they and the Third Generations can use is just their Triangular Nuclear Loop/LEM emitting waves (singing) to make the materials in their clothes vibrate to change their shapes.

And Origins aren't metal robots either, as they are also made out from biofluid, and in fact, the Betas' creation is based directly on how the Origins are created, the only differences being the usage of the Beta-6D to reduce production costs and the Triangular Nuclear Loop models involved in it.
 
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Not really though: the Betas' clothes aren't really part of them, and the costume change they and the Third Generations can use is just their Triangular Nuclear Loop/LEM emitting waves (singing) to make the materials in their clothes vibrate to change their shapes.

And Origins aren't metal robots either, as they are also made out from biofluid, and in fact, the Betas' creation is based directly on how the Origins are created, the only differences being the usage of the Beta-6D to reduce production cost and the Triangular Nuclear Loop models involved in it..
It was half-remembered info, and I wasn't inclined to check for accuracy due to being in class. Thanks for clearing it up for those who didn't know, though!
 
Not really though: the Betas' clothes aren't really part of them, and the costume change they and the Third Generations can use is just their Triangular Nuclear Loop/LEM emitting waves (singing) to make the materials in their clothes vibrate to change their shapes.
In Hana's case, the clothes really are part of her... but not in the same sense as it might have been (but isn't) for Betas. Her clothes are made of nanomaterial.

That's not to say that this was always the case. It's got more to do with her situation; if they hadn't been, she'd have woken up naked, and we didn't want to do that.
 
if they hadn't been, she'd have woken up naked, and we didn't want to do that.
Probably a good call. Not sure how well Hana would be able to make clothing, in all honesty, although considering general durability it'd moreso be for comfort than environmental protection.
 
Probably a good call. Not sure how well Hana would be able to make clothing, in all honesty, although considering general durability it'd moreso be for comfort than environmental protection.
With no tools?

I hear "cavewoman" is in style this year. More practically, she probably wouldn't have bothered... and that's enough of that, thank you. She's similar enough to her mother already. :whistle:
If she's made entirely out of of Nanomaterials then she can't grow up unless she either gets more Nanomaterials to increase her volume, and thus her size, or she redistributes her current amount so she looks older.
She's not. There's quite a lot of biofluid in there, too, as well as other things.

I feel fine with reporting that she's a Delta reyvateil, albeit a custom modification of that design. This will tell you absolutely nothing.
 
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