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Shining Example (WORM ORIGIN QUEST)

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[X] Go to the training room and talk to Rebecca. You need to talk to someone about this, someone who is willing to listen to your side and give you advice.
 
[x] Head to the Lab. Matthew was willing to listen to you the last time you felt lost, maybe he can give you some pointers. Hopefully Charles wouldn't mind the destruction of his suit.
 
[X] Go to the training room and talk to Rebecca. You need to talk to someone about this, someone who is willing to listen to your side and give you advice.
 
So guys I have a question, what's our goal here?
Are we trying to be the moral compass of the Founders? Are we trying to stop the Harbingers? What will we do when we discover Taylor? What if Taylor isn't even in this universe, how will we save the world?
 
Dark as Silver said:
Jokes on you Behemoth would melt any Iceberg he tried to steer.
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McLuvin said:
So guys I have a question, what's our goal here?
Are we trying to be the moral compass of the Founders? Are we trying to stop the Harbingers? What will we do when we discover Taylor? What if Taylor isn't even in this universe, how will we save the world?
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I know I have no say, but I would recommend you guys come to a conscious on this question so that you know where to go in the future. It is arguably the most important question asked in the quest or thread so far.

Takoe said:
Listen to Contessa, obviously. 100% guaranteed success :V
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... I see nothing wrong here.

Nothing.

At.

All.
 
McLuvin said:
So guys I have a question, what's our goal here?
Are we trying to be the moral compass of the Founders? Are we trying to stop the Harbingers? What will we do when we discover Taylor? What if Taylor isn't even in this universe, how will we save the world?
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Dunno, Legend has got the moral compass down, for the most part we need to support him.
I suppose what I'd like is to try and make an international task force actually workable.
 
Dark as Silver said:
Dunno, Legend has got the moral compass down, for the most part we need to support him.
I suppose what I'd like is to try and make an international task force actually workable.
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How could we do that though? We would have a lot of pull in the U.S as a Founder and one of the strongest capes ever, but how will we get the other nations to agree? Would we try and do something with NATO and risk western exclusivism or the UN and run headfirst into the wall of bureaucracy?

Sorry if I'm being annoying here but we should try to start doing some forward planning. We know we want to be the moral compass, and Alex seems to be on the right track for that, but aside from trying to stop the Endbringers manifesting and stopping Rachel from becoming the sociopath she was in cannon we have no idea of any other plans.
 
McLuvin said:
How could we do that though? We would have a lot of pull in the U.S as a Founder and one of the strongest capes ever, but how will we get the other nations to agree? Would we try and do something with NATO and risk western exclusivism or the UN and run headfirst into the wall of bureaucracy?

Sorry if I'm being annoying here but we should try to start doing some forward planning. We know we want to be the moral compass, and Alex seems to be on the right track for that, but aside from trying to stop the Endbringers manifesting and stopping Rachel from becoming the sociopath she was in cannon we have no idea of any other plans.
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No you're not and my suggestion wasn't really a suggestion as Sun Tzu is already doing that quest with a far more capable protagonist.
E: But its unfair to just ask, what do you want?
 
IKnowNothing said:
I know I have no say, but I would recommend you guys come to a conscious on this question so that you know where to go in the future. It is arguably the most important question asked in the quest or thread so far.
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You probably aren't going to get a solid answer until the question shows up in a story post :V.

I mean, how many of the voters actually read the non-threadmarked posts?
McLuvin said:
Which quest is this, may I have a link please?
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Here.
 
McLuvin said:
So guys I have a question, what's our goal here?
Are we trying to be the moral compass of the Founders? Are we trying to stop the Harbingers? What will we do when we discover Taylor? What if Taylor isn't even in this universe, how will we save the world?
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Stop everything from turning to shit.

I know that's a simple answer to a complex question, but let's take into account where we are in the Worm timeline. Right now Hero is still alive, the Endbringers aren't a thing, there's no established Hero-Villain dynamic, Cauldron hasn't yet descended into its most evil activities, the governments of the worlds are still strong, etc. Right now, at this exact moment, is the best things are going to be. It all gets worse from here. It all turns to shit piece by piece. So it's our job to fight the tide and make each challenge turn out less badly than it did in canon and collectively build a world that's better.
 
Briefvoice said:
Stop everything from turning to shit.

I know that's a simple answer to a complex question, but let's take into account where we are in the Worm timeline. Right now Hero is still alive, the Endbringers aren't a thing, there's no established Hero-Villain dynamic, Cauldron hasn't yet descended into its most evil activities, the governments of the worlds are still strong, etc. Right now, at this exact moment, is the best things are going to be. It all gets worse from here. It all turns to shit piece by piece. So it's our job to fight the tide and make each challenge turn out less badly than it did in canon and collectively build a world that's better.
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Hold up the world on our shoulders....
Atlas
 
So, in terms of things to accomplish. Stop Hero from dying. I understand the Hero-Villain dynamic and why it exists in canon, but its still a horrible system.
The Endbringers will be a thing eventually, and we have WoG that had we taken Eidolon's vials, Endbringers would have been a thing regardless.
Stopping Manton from going off the deep-end would be best. The Siberian is amazingly powerful and would be really useful, but not sure how to keep that power around without him going crazy.
 
So I have asked this question a lot, but how exactly does Contessa's power work. I understand the basics but how does it establish the most efficient/best route to Victory? Is it based on subconscious morality that shape which is a better or worse result? Is it strictly Utilitarian? Does it provide the most efficient result, while a slightly more "expensive" result that saves more lives is ignored?
 
Vermeer said:
So I have asked this question a lot, but how exactly does Contessa's power work. I understand the basics but how does it establish the most efficient/best route to Victory? Is it based on subconscious morality that shape which is a better or worse result? Is it strictly Utilitarian? Does it provide the most efficient result, while a slightly more "expensive" result that saves more lives is ignored?
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Space Magic!!!

Seriously though, she asks a question and gets an answer. We are never given more information than that.
 
RoninSword said:
So, in terms of things to accomplish. Stop Hero from dying. I understand the Hero-Villain dynamic and why it exists in canon, but its still a horrible system.
The Endbringers will be a thing eventually, and we have WoG that had we taken Eidolon's vials, Endbringers would have been a thing regardless.
Stopping Manton from going off the deep-end would be best. The Siberian is amazingly powerful and would be really useful, but not sure how to keep that power around without him going crazy.
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Stopping manton from going under will stop Hero from dying to the Siberian. But the next question is how are you going to accomplish that?

As for the endbringers... well, you're just going to have to keep an eye on David now aren't you.

Vermeer said:
So I have asked this question a lot, but how exactly does Contessa's power work. I understand the basics but how does it establish the most efficient/best route to Victory? Is it based on subconscious morality that shape which is a better or worse result? Is it strictly Utilitarian? Does it provide the most efficient result, while a slightly more "expensive" result that saves more lives is ignored?
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Her shard is the one that plots the route, and it has very blue and orange morality. It doesn't care about the journey, just that the journey gets to the intended destination.

But beyond that... space magic. I've hurt my head trying to figure it out in a way that makes sense, and I've already gone through my avalible stash of ibuprofen and I don't need to go through that again.
 
Ok, the chapter is done, it is being put through the grinder as we speak.

On an aside, I both hate and love you guys right now.
 
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