She-ra Lost Hope

If nobody will look at Kingster, then I hope this will make you look at him.

[X] Vote Kingster
 
[X] vote hugh_donnetonno

The whole way that the end state moved say from high and shal into I feel a third party still leaves a bit of a weird taste in my mouth , and as stated yesterday I am fine with either because the fight felt ... to soft in a way ?
The executioner one today feels more like frustrated town tunnelling in my gut as it has the right feel of frustration that make it sound authentic.
 
y'know @InterstellarHobo hasn't posted anything at all today 🤔

[x] Vote InterstellarHobo

Say something :D
Voting on slankers will do no good. They won't respond to your vote anyway, so unless you want to rally against slankers, then your vote is effectively useless. Instead, why don't you give me your thoughts on Kingster? Do you want to see more content from him before you make your judgement?
 
To reiterate my thoughts on this matter:
I am really interested in this site because of what you mentioned, but I can neither relate to any of you who have been hit by the Bastard Lite rolemadness, nor will I change my mindset on how I do my things.
Completely understandable, I'm just explaining what I can.
The other points are reasonable, but this one strikes me off as odd. Assuming w!Nictis wants to push v!Shalmoa as Executioner, then hugh is never mechanically confirmed town. Because the only way hugh is mechanically confirmed town is after you (Shalmoa) flip as Executioner, which -from your POV- should never happen.
Very much this. I have caught scum so many times because they use logic trains that don't make sense if they're Town. Shalmoa's thrust with that is that I'm trying to discredit Shalmoa and also keep Hugh alive and above suspicion by marking Shalmoa as Executioner and then never doing anything about it. Which is pretty funny when Shalmoa knows how hard I go into voting people.

As for the rest of your post, going to do a review on Kingster soon. My impression was generally Town for a newbie. For right now I'm going to agree with Shalmoa and start policy voting non-voters.

[x] Vote Hugh_Donnetono
@hugh_donnetono Pinging, get a vote on the board.
 
By the way, @Zone Q11, you've come from the OP's site right? Does Town vs Mafia setups mean there are no third parties in the setup?
 
  1. @-Rosen
  2. @InterstellarHobo
  3. @Seven
  4. @Zaealix
  5. @NemoMarx
  6. @Kingster
Going to skip ahead in the pings a bit. This is a lot of people who aren't voting. I think only Seven has even made it clear who they would be voting if they had one down so far, so chop chop. Either get your votes out or get me an idea of who you would be voting if you weren't scared of hammer so I can use it to nail you down later.
 
Hrm.
For today the push that has my attention is actually the recent one by Zone, on Kingster.
Quiet-hunting isn't ideal but I suppose so long as we leave the Shalmoa case alone we'll have no further issues with him at this point, and like Scia said: that whole debacle reads to me more like a Town tunneling versus execution given his later demonstrated fustration…
[X] vote Kingster
 
Voting on slankers will do no good. They won't respond to your vote anyway, so unless you want to rally against slankers, then your vote is effectively useless.
Sure but in my experience IH isn't usually like this? so there's probably something going on there. You're probably right that whatever it is is probably not gonna let up any time soon if it's already kept him busy for an entire day, but it still might be useful to provide some motivation.

Instead, why don't you give me your thoughts on Kingster? Do you want to see more content from him before you make your judgement?
And yes, this exactly, why do you think I beeped him :V

As for the rest of your post, going to do a review on Kingster soon. My impression was generally Town for a newbie. For right now I'm going to agree with Shalmoa and start policy voting non-voters.

[x] Vote Hugh_Donnetono
@hugh_donnetono Pinging, get a vote on the board.
[x] Vote InterstellarHobo
:thonk:

Fine, if that's not enough of a vote for you, how about this one? :V

[x] Vote Nictis
 
-Rosen

Playing reasonably, has had progression both times. A little absent but honestly the shorter day today is catching me off guard as well and I feel like I'm going to see a lot of people slipping around that.

-Zone Q11

Seems to be hunting actively right now, nothing in particular I find suspicious about play.

-Shalmoa

I don't think Mafia!Shalmoa does D1, and the frustration today seems genuine. Maybe some sort of really complicated play to draw attention away from a teammate, as a possible scum interpretation, but I don't really see it and I'm not looking here presently.

-InterstellarHobo

...doesn't seem to be around?

-Hugh

Kinda torn on this. There are explanations for most stuff Hugh has been doing, the self preservation vote stands up, etc. And second highest activitity, so... I guess active enough in solving?

-Seven

I don't feel like I have a strong read here, but I like getting a reads list done up today. I don't think I agree with the reads, but that happens and my judgement is often pretty bad, so I wouldn't call that indicative of things.

-Zaelix

Hey, @Zaealix, could you expand on what you meant in #456 a bit for me? What things do you think Shadell said that went against the flow of town, how do you see the wagon, etc?

-Nictis

I am usually pretty bad at reading Nictis and I'm not feeling differently here. She's sick, too, so... I guess I'm not expecting a lot of presence?

-Scia

Busy, I feel like Scia is usually a little quiet, no strong read. Seems to be putting together stuff.

-Kingster

D1 Vote progression is weird, and especially the land on Shadell didn't seem very well evidenced? Suspicious to me, albeit maybe some cultural stuff at play. P#458 is sort of an explanation for this, but if anyone on the wagon was opportunistic Mafia, Kingster might be the best fit. I think the secondary explanation is someone who's just following people they find compelling and that might explain all the moving around. I think this might depend on how you read the wagon, basically.
 
Adhoc vote count started by hugh_donnetono on Jul 28, 2022 at 11:30 AM, finished with 118 posts and 7 votes.
Hammer is currently 6, and the largest wagons are currently all at 2; you can put one vote anywhere you want without risk of things getting screwy :V

but also
[X] vote hugh_donnetonno
[x] Vote Hugh_Donnetono
oh my god people 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
 
Back in D1 again, more re-reading…
It occurs to me NemoMarx was the first to mention the possibility of a Godfather when I spitballed about intel shenanigans, possibly for Hugh to pick up on and start the great Shalmoa tunnel…
But eh. I doubt that will lead to anything important.

Apparently Kingster found Shaddell suspicious before I found any of the posts that lead me to think of Shaddell as going against the flow of town…

…Okay, #226 where Shaddel turns to pressure Ori could count maybe. And being the last vote before Shalmoa spotted the hammer rules likely did not help.
*frowns* man gut feel is not as reliable as I thought../
 
By the way, @Zone Q11, you've come from the OP's site right? Does Town vs Mafia setups mean there are no third parties in the setup?
That is correct. I did not notice the "Town vs Mafia" before, but the fact that this is written completely eliminates the possibility of third parties in this game; it's just Town vs Mafia.
Sure but in my experience IH isn't usually like this? so there's probably something going on there. You're probably right that whatever it is is probably not gonna let up any time soon if it's already kept him busy for an entire day, but it still might be useful to provide some motivation.
The thing is: I don't know IH as well as you do. FMPOV, IH just happens to be slanking for over 36 hours in a 48 hour day phase, so... that's obviously NAGL.
And yes, this exactly, why do you think I beeped him :V
I did say I think you were doing X, but it is not certain that you were actually doing X.
For all I know, you might purposefully avoiding my push on Kingster because you are scumbuddies with him or smth.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
-Rosen

Playing reasonably, has had progression both times. A little absent but honestly the shorter day today is catching me off guard as well and I feel like I'm going to see a lot of people slipping around that.

-Zone Q11

Seems to be hunting actively right now, nothing in particular I find suspicious about play.

-Shalmoa

I don't think Mafia!Shalmoa does D1, and the frustration today seems genuine. Maybe some sort of really complicated play to draw attention away from a teammate, as a possible scum interpretation, but I don't really see it and I'm not looking here presently.

-InterstellarHobo

...doesn't seem to be around?

-Hugh

Kinda torn on this. There are explanations for most stuff Hugh has been doing, the self preservation vote stands up, etc. And second highest activitity, so... I guess active enough in solving?

-Seven

I don't feel like I have a strong read here, but I like getting a reads list done up today. I don't think I agree with the reads, but that happens and my judgement is often pretty bad, so I wouldn't call that indicative of things.

-Zaelix

Hey, @Zaealix, could you expand on what you meant in #456 a bit for me? What things do you think Shadell said that went against the flow of town, how do you see the wagon, etc?

-Nictis

I am usually pretty bad at reading Nictis and I'm not feeling differently here. She's sick, too, so... I guess I'm not expecting a lot of presence?

-Scia

Busy, I feel like Scia is usually a little quiet, no strong read. Seems to be putting together stuff.

-Kingster

D1 Vote progression is weird, and especially the land on Shadell didn't seem very well evidenced? Suspicious to me, albeit maybe some cultural stuff at play. P#458 is sort of an explanation for this, but if anyone on the wagon was opportunistic Mafia, Kingster might be the best fit. I think the secondary explanation is someone who's just following people they find compelling and that might explain all the moving around. I think this might depend on how you read the wagon, basically.
...I am not getting anything out of this.
Nemo, Gun To Head give me your Top 3 suspects.
 
-Rosen

Playing reasonably, has had progression both times. A little absent but honestly the shorter day today is catching me off guard as well and I feel like I'm going to see a lot of people slipping around that.

-Zone Q11

Seems to be hunting actively right now, nothing in particular I find suspicious about play.

-Shalmoa

I don't think Mafia!Shalmoa does D1, and the frustration today seems genuine. Maybe some sort of really complicated play to draw attention away from a teammate, as a possible scum interpretation, but I don't really see it and I'm not looking here presently.

-InterstellarHobo

...doesn't seem to be around?

-Hugh

Kinda torn on this. There are explanations for most stuff Hugh has been doing, the self preservation vote stands up, etc. And second highest activitity, so... I guess active enough in solving?

-Seven

I don't feel like I have a strong read here, but I like getting a reads list done up today. I don't think I agree with the reads, but that happens and my judgement is often pretty bad, so I wouldn't call that indicative of things.

-Zaelix

Hey, @Zaealix, could you expand on what you meant in #456 a bit for me? What things do you think Shadell said that went against the flow of town, how do you see the wagon, etc?

-Nictis

I am usually pretty bad at reading Nictis and I'm not feeling differently here. She's sick, too, so... I guess I'm not expecting a lot of presence?

-Scia

Busy, I feel like Scia is usually a little quiet, no strong read. Seems to be putting together stuff.

-Kingster

D1 Vote progression is weird, and especially the land on Shadell didn't seem very well evidenced? Suspicious to me, albeit maybe some cultural stuff at play. P#458 is sort of an explanation for this, but if anyone on the wagon was opportunistic Mafia, Kingster might be the best fit. I think the secondary explanation is someone who's just following people they find compelling and that might explain all the moving around. I think this might depend on how you read the wagon, basically.
Breaking this down:
Rosen: Light Town
Zone: Light Town
Shalmoa: Hard Town.
Hobo: Not present.
Hugh: Light Scum but too active to kill.
Seven: Null to Light Scum.
Zaealix: Read pending.
Nictis: Null Read (Per usual)
Scia: Light Town question mark?
Kingster: Most Scum but not hard Scum.

This about right for you?
 
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