- Location
- Phoenix, Arizona
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Right, so vanilla. Cheese is now the most suspect person in my mind, having not claimed vanilla or anything else.
- Location
- Florida
Guys, I've told you a number of times now what my power is. I'm kind of a lookout, but I can only see whether my target is visited or visits someone, and how many total visits there were involving that person. For instance, last night I watched atk and saw that there were two people who did actions around them. It can be assumed this was the person who killed them and the person they visited.
As for my name, it's Deslan the Hunter.
As for my name, it's Deslan the Hunter.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Right so the thing is I did indeed kill atk50 and as we can see he flipped necro scum.
At this point I think Pawn was probably lying to get us murdering vets, not that such is a new opinion. Kinda wish I'd eaten cookie side's corpse, so I would be able to confirm if he is roleblocker or not, but I went for Astaroh-m. Actually, come to think roleblock may be a necro-scum power? Hmm.
Personally, while he could be lying I'm presently inclined to think Cheese is in fact as he claims, simply because no contradicting info has ever come up. The lack of Mutineer kill (discounting my use of the power) and the fact that necro scum flipped as clearly part of a team has me thinking one necro scum left.
Which, incidentally, means Estro and TheMaskedReader are back on the table as possible Necro-scum.
... Ideally, we would compile a night action log to determine if eg the roleblocker failed to occur when Necro Scum double killed/when a specific player was jailed.
At this point I think Pawn was probably lying to get us murdering vets, not that such is a new opinion. Kinda wish I'd eaten cookie side's corpse, so I would be able to confirm if he is roleblocker or not, but I went for Astaroh-m. Actually, come to think roleblock may be a necro-scum power? Hmm.
Personally, while he could be lying I'm presently inclined to think Cheese is in fact as he claims, simply because no contradicting info has ever come up. The lack of Mutineer kill (discounting my use of the power) and the fact that necro scum flipped as clearly part of a team has me thinking one necro scum left.
Which, incidentally, means Estro and TheMaskedReader are back on the table as possible Necro-scum.
... Ideally, we would compile a night action log to determine if eg the roleblocker failed to occur when Necro Scum double killed/when a specific player was jailed.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Hmmm. We've got five left, one of whom is me. We either 100% need a scum lynch (if there is indeed a third mutineer) today, or... If there's only one scum left, we could no-lynch today, have me cop check one of the surviving candidates, and lynch them if they flip scum and have me kill the other in the following night? Maybe? I'm not entirely sure this tracks...
Especially with not being entirely sure on there being a third mutineer.
If there is a third mutineer, it has to be either Estro or Cheese, and Cheese doesn't fit roleblocker unless this is a gutsy fake-claim that he's managed to avoid having backfire. TheMaskedReader got attacked by them and Nictis outted Cookie Side, which I mean I guess it could be bussing but uh I doubt it given it still left Nictis under suspicion of possible necro-scum-ness.
Especially with not being entirely sure on there being a third mutineer.
If there is a third mutineer, it has to be either Estro or Cheese, and Cheese doesn't fit roleblocker unless this is a gutsy fake-claim that he's managed to avoid having backfire. TheMaskedReader got attacked by them and Nictis outted Cookie Side, which I mean I guess it could be bussing but uh I doubt it given it still left Nictis under suspicion of possible necro-scum-ness.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Revisiting something real fast...
Vanilla is actually inherently fairly suspect, as it's the most common role type we have seen. I'm not convinced Estro is scum, specifically, but merely having a vanilla claim, which is not in fact one of the earlier claims, is not much defense.
Vanilla is actually inherently fairly suspect, as it's the most common role type we have seen. I'm not convinced Estro is scum, specifically, but merely having a vanilla claim, which is not in fact one of the earlier claims, is not much defense.
- Location
- Wörms, the half continent
Why would you watch someone you know was going to die? It's somewhat curious on that regard, as looking elsewhere might have provided more useful information, such as perhaps the living scum. It just seems like a poor choice for you, as well as something very obvious to say.
Something else I find interesting is that nobody has found this supposed chemical roleblock that TMR suffered {LINK}. Nobody has claimed it, and the power that you got, thinking it might be that, was rather more... elemental in nature. A chemical roleblock looks to be out of theme for the purple scum. So it's either resting with someone alive, or it did belong with Cookieside.
That sleep also happened on the first night, so it doesn't leave them out for the double kill, which was night two.
While this is true, as Vanilla is a quick and easy claim, unlike TMR, I had flavour with mine. While the death of QT shows that multiple deckhands is possible, I would like to say mine has more, ah, substance.
Also, with ten posts across the entire game, Cheese has a fifth of as many posts as the least posty member still alive. Less than a fifteenth of the most. Given the state of the game, and the stringency of the correct lynch, I'd expect them to be trying to help out town more now, instead of the almost "oh, why are you hassling me on this" attitude he's had.
If I was to codify suspicions, it would be probably Cheese first, TMR next, and then Nictis for last night, although that was apparently angsty drama stuff from previous games and i really don't want to start it again.
And while they could kill you, unless they have another double kill up their sleeve, they couldn't kill both you and nictis, which means that town could still get the information. Unless Nictis is that ballsy scum game. It's not a bad idea, I suppose. If the Mutiny is still alive, we'd be fucked, but that it looking less and less plausible.
Gotta appreciate Pawn Lelouch managing to fuck stuff over even while dead. That's skill.
- Location
- Wörms, the half continent
If cheese is necro, I suppose his watcher ability would be something like a life force sense, fluff wise.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Ah, no. Yun also claimed roleblocked at one point, night 2 as I recall.
Pawn is a very competent player, yes.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
The quote of Yun claiming it, for proof. Day three, same day TMR was attacked.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Claim was day three so attack was night 2, I should say.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
One reason I am significantly more suspicious of Cheese than I was like five minutes ago is what Esteo just pointed out of targeting atk50 being very strange. Targeting TMR or Estro could have caught the last scum, potentially. Claiming to target atk50 could well be scum completely faking a power use, ala how in Curtain Call I claimed to rolecop Blade to get the opening to attack on a night I was certain Blade would be roleblocked.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
- Location
- Wörms, the half continent
OEstro-fren
- Location
- Wörms, the half continent
Anyway, I'm going to bed now, and I'd hope this would remain unsaid, but given yesterday, don't lynch me before i can wait up. That's just a dick move
- Location
- Wörms, the half continent
wake up, even. blah, spellings
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
I mean honestly we shouldn't even cast votes until we analyze out the most likely scum. Because if we are wrong about remaining scum, a vote or two on someone could allow scum to 'accidentally' hammer a townie. Which would be bad. Or me, which for me is even worse what with needing strictly to live.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
So I went back to grab all of atk50's posts to see if he was shielding anyone and also reviewed stuff incidentally. Well, I skipped his confirmation post but whatever.
His classic memevote. Pawn is already dead so even paranoidly thinking it means something it has no relevance.
Goes against Astaroh, irrelevant info at this point.
I think he was asking about spoiler tabs? Not really relevant tl game.
Goes to pressure a low poster. Given those still alive are all high posters, there's not much we can extract out of it, although of us five TMR has the least posts.
Responding to me mentioning Yun having other games. Basically irrelevant.
I grabbed this because Cookie Side is confirmed mutineer. Unfortunately even if we assume a third mutineer which I soubt at this point, he gives a neutral read on his only confirmed teammate. Of those of us left alive, he rates Estro as slight town, Nictis as Solid Town, TMR as slight scum, me as neutral, and this was before cheese replaced in and I don't recall who Cheese replaced. Not hugely helpful.
Standing firm on lynching LMBF, backing my reasoning.
I don't recall context, he's saying he forgot something but I don't remember what he was responding to.
Re-affirming his position on making Hybrid lynchable.
Helping a player with input type issues.
Announcing inactivity.
Responding to me reading him and pawn as teammates which has proven woefully wrong, in spite of both being scum.
@Nictis any idea what this is? I don't think this ever got answered. If we don't know who visited you, then that could mean you visited someone.
Going against cookie side.
I think he's quoting something? I don't remember.
Pushing for QT's death...
And then TMR immediately backs him.
TMR has a bad habit of as scum swiftly and openly supporting scum buddies, see Arch-Demon's Amusement. I believe this, among other things, is circumstantial evidence in favor of TMR as second Necro-scum.
This could be playing dumb, but alongside his general inactivity implies to me his claim is actually a legit power given his apparent confusion.
TMR throwing out a lot of 'distrust Terrabrand' and 'there's another mutineer' type messages. I don't like it.
Observation I failed to grab a quote for; neither Nictis nor Estro attempted to dissaude me from killing atk50 while being actively around while I was pushing him as my kill target. This makes me suspect neither is a necromancer, alongside other stuff from my review that, frustratingly, I didn't quote. Bleh, being sick sucks.
Anyways. At this point, I'm inclined to think Necro-scum is between TMR and Cheese, and I suspect TMR a lot more right now. Thoughts?
His classic memevote. Pawn is already dead so even paranoidly thinking it means something it has no relevance.
Goes against Astaroh, irrelevant info at this point.
I think he was asking about spoiler tabs? Not really relevant tl game.
Goes to pressure a low poster. Given those still alive are all high posters, there's not much we can extract out of it, although of us five TMR has the least posts.
Responding to me mentioning Yun having other games. Basically irrelevant.
I grabbed this because Cookie Side is confirmed mutineer. Unfortunately even if we assume a third mutineer which I soubt at this point, he gives a neutral read on his only confirmed teammate. Of those of us left alive, he rates Estro as slight town, Nictis as Solid Town, TMR as slight scum, me as neutral, and this was before cheese replaced in and I don't recall who Cheese replaced. Not hugely helpful.
Standing firm on lynching LMBF, backing my reasoning.
I don't recall context, he's saying he forgot something but I don't remember what he was responding to.
Re-affirming his position on making Hybrid lynchable.
Helping a player with input type issues.
Announcing inactivity.
Responding to me reading him and pawn as teammates which has proven woefully wrong, in spite of both being scum.
@Nictis any idea what this is? I don't think this ever got answered. If we don't know who visited you, then that could mean you visited someone.
Going against cookie side.
I think he's quoting something? I don't remember.
Pushing for QT's death...
And then TMR immediately backs him.
TMR has a bad habit of as scum swiftly and openly supporting scum buddies, see Arch-Demon's Amusement. I believe this, among other things, is circumstantial evidence in favor of TMR as second Necro-scum.
This could be playing dumb, but alongside his general inactivity implies to me his claim is actually a legit power given his apparent confusion.
TMR throwing out a lot of 'distrust Terrabrand' and 'there's another mutineer' type messages. I don't like it.
Observation I failed to grab a quote for; neither Nictis nor Estro attempted to dissaude me from killing atk50 while being actively around while I was pushing him as my kill target. This makes me suspect neither is a necromancer, alongside other stuff from my review that, frustratingly, I didn't quote. Bleh, being sick sucks.
Anyways. At this point, I'm inclined to think Necro-scum is between TMR and Cheese, and I suspect TMR a lot more right now. Thoughts?
Nictis
Best Sidekick
- Location
- Ninja Dave's Cookies
- Pronouns
- Any
Crystal visited me Night One. I'm certain that Cheese is actually using the power he has, since he knew about when Crystal and Astaroh visited me. I'm less certain about him not being a Mutineer because I am still trying to find the third member.
Okay, so. We have two options for action.
1: We assume we're at MYLO, this requires the Mutiny or the Scarlet Hand to be dead. Considering atk's flip, the Scarlet Hand are probably still alive.
2: We assume that we're at LYLO, this requires that both factions are alive. That is... unlikely since it would require uneven numbers, but possible.
Both of these assumptions are ignoring Terrabrand, because while he's likely to side with Town, he technically can side with anyone.
If it's MYLO, we're at five members, if we no lynch then Terrabrand can investigate someone tonight, Cheese can do the same (Any numbers that aren't Terrabrand copping or them dying is proof that they are the killer, so no numbers is likely proof that they are innocent) one person is killed tonight, likely Cheese since he's functionally a cop at this point and can't join scum, we wake up with four and use whichever investigation survived to knock off the last of the scum.
Or we can lynch, try to chance getting the killer so there's no risk to Terrabrand... I'm currently against this, but if we can figure it out without investigating then we could do it (Or we could wait the night to confirm)
If it's LYLO... We're at five members, two die in the night, it's down to Terrabrand and whoever survives. It's possible that scum would crossfire and win the game for Town, but let's not bet on that, shall we? In this case, Terrabrand gets to play Kingmaker (Which is why I'm calling it LYLO, since he could choose scum) the only question is if he's playing Kingmaker between the two scum or one scum and a Town.
I'm betting that we're at MYLO, because I cannot find the last bloody Mutineer. So, either we lynch someone just in case both sides of Scum are still alive, or we No-Lynch and let the two investigators do work.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
My one concern about leaning on investigation is the possibility of the necro scum having their own godfather.
I believe the risk to me is negligible, and indeed I believe lynching today increases, not decreases, the risk to me.
- Location
- Wörms, the half continent
This is incorrect, TMR has 55 posts, Cheese has 10. I know cheese replaced someone, but that was like, honestly a while ago at this point. Like, that aforementioned low poster in what I'm quoting has one less post than Cheese does.
I can see your logic here. Hmm.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Hmmm. I keep overlooking Cheese, honestly. Lemme double check something... *checks*
The pressure post was on page 19. Cheese didn't replace in until 21, and the person he was replacing already needed replacing by the time atk50 replaced in.
Thus, the results are kinda inconclusive on 'atk50 shielding scumbuddy', because he probably wouldn't pressure someone going to be replaced or modkilled regardless of respective alignments.
- Location
- Phoenix, Arizona
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I did have flavor! Sure, nothing too verifiable, but I did have flavor.
I mean, you are the one person amongst us who I am absolutely sure doesn't have an incentive to not betray town.
And I'm inclined to suspect Cheese. His watcher role would be a good support movement for the Necromancers, his claim has no flavor connection to any of the others (me sharing the Deckhand job with 2 others, Estro being a pair with the uh, skinner?)
Here, @Nictis? Ask QT or the other Deckhand what their skill was. Mine was Man the Ship. I, well, man the ship, but have no skills applicable to this situation.
- Location
- Wörms, the half continent
No, I am the skinner, I just saw the link to the Carpenter (LDJ) in how they fix the ship part, while i am responsible for the more, ah, "air" part.
Nictis
Best Sidekick
- Location
- Ninja Dave's Cookies
- Pronouns
- Any
frowns
As far as I'm aware, they don't have a skill.