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Rising Sun (Code Geass/Arpeggio Of Blue Steel SI)

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obssesednuker said:
That doesn't really work out because Chess was invented long before the historical POD in the Code Geassverse back in a time when loyalty to the monarch was valued much more highly then it was today. In fact, that probably explains some of the terminology (pieces are not "killed", they are "captured" so the king is never killed, merely captured).
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Chess has evolved over time. And still does. You can play Chess grandmasters for cash on ICS/FICS (an online graphics engine for chess that is a lot easier to code than the one for Counter Strike. Especially when Uber Chess Nerds pride themselves on imagining the board in their heads. )

Modern day chess is a variant on "Mad Queen's Chess"



Mail, Internet, clocks, etc have all changed chess greatly over time.

I had this huge long rant about how chess variants have changed over time... Blitz, speed, Armageddon. Variants where losing with style is more important that winning on technicalities (1800's, romance era, i.e told a good story, if you lost with style, a good drama, you won... By losing. Shakespeare style). Early 90s where smoking was ok.... so blowing cigar smoke into your oppenents face was ok, and depending on where you were, smoking pot was ok... so getting your opponent high, cuz the scrub didn't have a tolerance for hash was perfectly legal.

But the short version, modern day chess is based off of Mad Queen's chess. ( In olden times there was no Queen - there was a vizier. Females were chattel... And the King a baddass who could move 2 spaces and sometimes teleport).

Bishops acted like checkers, they could only hop....

Anywho.

~500 - 800 years ago, the Queen took exception... And said... "The King can no longer move 2 spaces at a time. Also, there is no vizier, there is only the Queen... Who is all powerful, wise and can not be killed. The King is my bitch, I am your all powerful Queen and Master. If a single peasant proves thier loyalty, the Queen can be ressurcted."

Normally...

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There is no normally.

800 years ago the "Mad Queen" decided to change the rules of chess... making the King a bitch and Making the Queen into an immortal sorceress who can never truly be killed.

And humanity as a whole TO THIS DAY 8 centuries later has decided... "Yeah, that seems fair... DEAR GOD PLEASE DON'T COME OVER HERE. I have kids, a wife, please please please please..."

There are very few way of making a message resonate for 8 centuries... none of them are very nice.

And yet.... We play Mad Queen's Chess. Cuz reasons. Mostly cuz 800 years ago the Queen said so.

And she knows where you sleep.... 8`O
 
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The easiest way to clog the Suez would likely be to just sink enough ships in the canal so as to clog it and make em clear it. Then do it again every few months.

You could do it to the Panama canal too, but they would clear it much faster. but a cargo container ship sunk in either one will disrupt shipping heavily, and shake the public horrendously.
 
You are all overcomplicating it, its simple.
One day during a game of chess:
AbsoluteMonarch moves his king toward the other player king
Player:Your Majesty that move is not allow..
AM narrows his eyes
Player: ...I mean its against the rules..
AM: FOOOLISH LEROU..PLAYER !!I AM THE RULES!!!!!!!
Thus ever since chess became a mess because royalty played anyway they wanted and whos to deny them.
 
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@Gideon020

So considering Fog's fighter planes were a joke in canon what will you replace them with? Personally having your twin interrupt the massacre piloting a VF-21would be awesome.
 
I'm salty over Euphie because the original salt over Euphie still remains. It's a kneejerk, I can't help it.

It's as if every time I close my eyes, I can still see a blood covered Euphie with a gun and a bunch of dead bodies. This salt is real as fuck.
 
I know, the situation was insane. His Geass going out of control at the very moment he said those words and was looking in Euphie's eyes? That's not just bad luck. That's the Universe deciding things have been going far too smoothly for Lulu and starts actively kicking him in the nuts.
 
jwolfe_beta said:
. His Geass going out of control at the very moment he said those words and was looking in Euphie's eyes? That's not just bad luck. Ts.
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Isnt it implied that it wasnt a coincidence but VV messing with him using one of the C world/being a code bearer shenanigans

And if the fog uses theres a greater risk of losing them, and in CG the tech advances way faster, and theres mad geniuses around (like Lloyd). Tought besides their VTOL, we only see some fighter jets in the opening of the invasion of Japan and they are never used in warfare for no real reason (besides the author wanting to keep it a fight between mobile suits).
 
Stahor said:
We did not seen them. It just even with Fog tech without Klein field human AA can destroy them. So use of them is not cost-effective.
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Chapter 60, page 2. The Fog float plane seems to be a strange combination of propeller and early jet engine design. Its inferred that human aircraft at least matched Fog planes, while the anti-aircraft weapons shredded the rest.
 
rodon said:
Chapter 60, page 2. The Fog float plane seems to be a strange combination of propeller and early jet engine design.
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That is kinda unrepresentative though since it was a single vessels pet experiment for transporting her mental model and not a general use combat design.

Its inferred that human aircraft at least matched Fog planes, while the anti-aircraft weapons shredded the rest.
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Almost outright stated, really. At the very least, human aircraft and weapons were suitably competitive with Fog aircraft, how it was with the ships.
 
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If Humans had aircraft comparable with the Fog Fleets air capabilities why didn't they just open communications via air courier instead of sending the protagonist on a long mission across the Pacific Ocean?
 
Yeah, even if human aircraft successfully fight Fog aircraft, that ultimately means little without the firepower to hurt Fog vessels. Thus, the Fog just stopped using airplanes and relied on their ship-based AA weapons to enforce the aerial portion of the blockade.
 
rodon said:
Chapter 60, page 2. The Fog float plane seems to be a strange combination of propeller and early jet engine design.
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I think floatplane is not representative for planes that Fog carriers used before it was decided ineffective. It was used to convey Mental Model around.
 
cyberswordsmen said:
If Humans had aircraft comparable with the Fog Fleets air capabilities why didn't they just open communications via air courier instead of sending the protagonist on a long mission across the Pacific Ocean?
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As others have said, they shoot them down. So they tried a sub-orbital flight instead... This also didn't work, the fleet of fog just sniped the courier in space from the planet surface.
 
MissingJimbo said:
The Fog tend to be dicks.
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Their pretty amoral because morality is a learned behavior and before they developed mental models the Fog was simply incapable of that. That's started to change because of their experience with having mental models but this thing takes time.

jwolfe_beta said:
Well they do try to uphold the commands of the Admiralty Code to the utmost.
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I have sketched out the outline of a scene in a fic idea of mine where the main villain backs Haruna into a mental corner by asking whether she would willingly kill Maki if the Admiralty Code ordered her too.
 
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Just a tiny, wee Question. FoF Units have to build ALL based on Nanomaterial, or they have the capability to shift their production systems to use more conventional materials, to build conventional stuff? Because if Youko can do such, using conventional, yet still advanced materials to produce a web of "disposable" yet still virtually undetectable UAV, as a cheap and useful 1st warning web network rather than waste Nanomaterial would be a good idea.
 
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