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Specially if Arpeggio Kongou, results in having a Tsundere protective edge in what to her "Sister" refers

She may be an overly cheerful moron, but she is Kongou's cheerful moron, HERS.

With the last scene, why i had the urge to scream "ONE PURPOSE, ONE VISION! PEACE THROUGH POWER!!"???
 
I like the story but I feel like you've made it too easy for the SI. As it stands there's no challenge for her, which really means that thr story is running less on 'What's going to happen next' and more on what different ways can I stomp the geass verse. Which if that was the point of the story is perfectly fine, this is just my 2 cents worth.

The biggest problem I found in that respect is that you gave the SI too many advantages in the beginning. The Yamato is already wildly superior to anything they have but also means the SI has to struggle with fulfilling her objectives with limited resources. I also felt like it should have been more of a build up and challenge to get other Fog units. Then there is that seemingly no-limits fallacy research enigma tech...

Again, i like what you're doing and I hope you keep up the good work.
 
DarthGamer said:
I like the story but I feel like you've made it too easy for the SI. As it stands there's no challenge for her, which really means that thr story is running less on 'What's going to happen next' and more on what different ways can I stomp the geass verse. Which if that was the point of the story is perfectly fine, this is just my 2 cents worth.

The biggest problem I found in that respect is that you gave the SI too many advantages in the beginning. The Yamato is already wildly superior to anything they have but also means the SI has to struggle with fulfilling her objectives with limited resources. I also felt like it should have been more of a build up and challenge to get other Fog units. Then there is that seemingly no-limits fallacy research enigma tech...

Again, i like what you're doing and I hope you keep up the good work.
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Oh don't worry.

There are plaaaannnns.
 
I have a feeling that downing the Suez Canal is putting First Raider Fleet in conflict with EU forces.
My estimate: anything Europe can throw in their direction.
Considering what percentage of Red Sea African & Mediterranean is currently affiliated with EU. . .
. . . the girls might have to battle half a continent's worth of non-Britannian opposition :p
 
DarthGamer said:
I like the story but I feel like you've made it too easy for the SI. As it stands there's no challenge for her, which really means that thr story is running less on 'What's going to happen next' and more on what different ways can I stomp the geass verse. Which if that was the point of the story is perfectly fine, this is just my 2 cents worth.

The biggest problem I found in that respect is that you gave the SI too many advantages in the beginning. The Yamato is already wildly superior to anything they have but also means the SI has to struggle with fulfilling her objectives with limited resources. I also felt like it should have been more of a build up and challenge to get other Fog units. Then there is that seemingly no-limits fallacy research enigma tech...

Again, i like what you're doing and I hope you keep up the good work.
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Have faith in the Pudding Earl.
 
Spectrum said:
Have faith in the Pudding Earl.
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This is a point.

The Fog ships are far from invincible. Even a battleship Klein field can be brought down, you just need to apply enough energy within X amount of time. And CG tech is fairly BS in various fields.

Of course the problem is surviving long enough to apply the force needed to shatter even a destroyer's field. And Fog AA is completely BS when it comes to power, range and accuracy while Britannians are completely obsessed with Knightmares compared to 'conventional' weapons.

As a result I suspect that there will be a fair number of '100% assured Fog Fleet killer' class Knightmares that will be easily destroyed (and the husks used as volley balls by the DesDiv 6 via their Klein fields) before some bright spark figures out that they should try a different weapon platform.
 
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jwolfe_beta said:
This is a point.

The Fog ships are far from invincible. Even a battleship Klein field can be brought down, you just need to apply enough energy within X amount of time. And CG tech is fairly BS is various fields.

Of course the problem is surviving long enough to apply the force needed to even shatter a destroyer's field. And since Fog AA is completely BS when it comes to power, range and accuracy while Britannians are completely obsessed with Knightmares compared to 'conventional' weapons.

As a result I suspect that there will be a fair number of '100% assured Fog Fleet killer' class Knightmares that will be easily destroyed (and the husks used as volley balls by the DesDiv 6 via their Klein fields) before some bright spark figures out that they should try a different weapon platform.
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Ironically? the Emergence of the FoF, and later the display of WMD, will cause a radical change. If anything, given the type of weapons in FoF Battleships, the Knightmares will be possibly all but shelved, and the concept of Knight Fortress type Floating units will take more and more force.

Have in account that In order to shatter a Klein Field, If you have a weapon with the power to shatter said field, before it, you have to get into the RANGE in order to fire your own weapons, OR have a weapons system that either can't be shot down for a well placed AA or Rail barrage at a long distance, or can't be detected.

As the later can't be possible with the existent tech, the former also banks in that you somehow CAN evade the murderous and multiple waves of Cannons, Missiles AND Torpedos that will be fired against you once your unit is inside the effective range of a FOF Ship, likely quite a bit above your own, THEN, get into range to fire your weapon systems, then keep evading, firing, or then go. . ."Kamikaze" on a FoF . It means speeds FAR in excess of all known KF, and agility in the same level, something not available for KF as they are now.

Melee stunts with a FoF? Nice way of suicide.

Lloyd will certainly both bless and curse the FoF. For one, he will likely get more, and MORE money and resources, as his insane genius its all but demanded to decode the FoF's weapons, and WMD, and to create or adapt weapons systems to counter the FoF.

For another, his Lancelot will potentially become more and more irrelevant, shelved at one point, as Britannia shifts their production from KF, into trying to counter the rising numbers of FoF, and shifts into Knight Fortress and other units.

Gideon020 said:
SHHH!
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I bet the programming ran with Kantai Collection because creating and sustaining brand new personalities would cost more processing power then co-opting existing ones, particularly for the lighter vessels which don't normally have mental models (or in the case of Takao, does not normally have two mental models).

Although it now occurs to me: why is Kiso the light cruiser with the sub-CPUs for DesDiv6? Wouldn't Tenryuu be more appropriate? ;)

EDIT: Oh wait, that's pretty much stated:

Y1: -I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING! THE DIAGNOSTICS REPORTED THAT THEY DID THAT ON THEIR OWN TO FREE UP CPU OUTPUT!-
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Silly me not paying enough attention to what is written. :V
 
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Britannia might have to look for alternative means of powering their own weapons too. After all the Rote Hexen and its possible successor can render pretty much all Sakuradite based weaponry useless, or even turned against their users. But I imagine when the conflict between Britannia and the Fleet of Fog escalates, we might start seeing technology derived from the Sword of Akasha or the C's World.
 
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DesDiv6 on "Supply Runs"

Steel - "Salvaged scrap from burning husks of ships and those Night Horse thingies." "Knightmares, nanodesu."

Ammunition - "Why are we even taking these? Its not like we even use shells for our guns." "Supreme Flagship said something about asset denial?"

Fuel - "Akastuki, stop playing with the sakuradite drums! That stuff is still highly volatile!" "Relax, I got thi-" doink ".. ouchies."

Bauxite - "Salvaged scrap from burning husks of planes and those Night Horse thingies." "Knightmares, khorosho."

*Coming Soon (Not Likely)*
Burning Orange: The Courtship of Cyborg Gottwald
Cheese-kun Chronicles: War on Pizza
Aerial Battleship IJN Youko: "Super Graviton Cannon, Fire!"
Initial D(elivery): Tokyo Drift
 
Akritedes said:
Man, that's demoralizing. Watching your super weapon be used as a toy by the grade school children who just tore it to pieces.
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Well it would presumably while they are in their ship bodies. I doubt that destroyers would have enough ompth to bounce around a Knightmare cockpit/torso unaided.

The 'higher ups' let it go for several reasons: It's cute (Kongou-K), It's a useful technique for data gathering of alternate Klein Flied manipulations to minimize power usage for defense (Kongou-Arp) and the kids have been working hard, they deserve some time off (both Takao's).

Finally that this is the four time this month Suzaku has charged out like a moron in Lloyd's latest 'masterpiece' of a Kinghtmare (that the destroyers carved up with their secondary batteries in 10 seconds and are using the remaining filigree as ornaments). Maybe the added humiliation this time will get him to buzz off (Youko).
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There's a word for people who underestimate Lloyd
I think we call those folks dead :p;)
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Oh the guy's a genius but he's pretty bad when it comes to designing weapons.
If it hadn't been for the frankly BS capabilities of Suzaku, no one would have been able to pilot his 'masterpiece' since he didn't build it for people to use. He built it and then expected to find people capable of using it. And while I'm not sure if it's canon or fanon when designing and building Lancelot, he apparently overshot his budget three times. And with all that cash, the guy didn't even bother to add an ejection seat to the design.

Rakshata's designs on the other hand might not be as uniformly BS in capabilities but can be used effectively by pretty much anyone.
 
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krahe said:
Hahaha, this will end in tears, fire and historical repeat. Oh what the hell, I just repost here my post from SB's feel thread
Context: If short Kantai Collection is a personoficated ships raising smulation that are all roughtly from WW2. From left to right Akatsuki-class destroyers Akatsuki, Hibiki, Ikazuchi and Inazuma. Akatsuki has sank at 13 November 1942, Inazuma - 14 May 1944, Ikazuchi - 13 April 1944 and Hibiki survived through war, but was given to Soviets as a trophy and placed in service under the name Verniy in 1947 and as Dekabrist in 1948. Was shoot Say whatever you want about Kantai, but it's a goldmine for squeezing feels out. Especially when artists make references to actual historical facts
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There's another version of that sequence:
 
holyknight said:
Ironically? the Emergence of the FoF, and later the display of WMD, will cause a radical change. If anything, given the type of weapons in FoF Battleships, the Knightmares will be possibly all but shelved, and the concept of Knight Fortress type Floating units will take more and more force.

Have in account that In order to shatter a Klein Field, If you have a weapon with the power to shatter said field, before it, you have to get into the RANGE in order to fire your own weapons, OR have a weapons system that either can't be shot down for a well placed AA or Rail barrage at a long distance, or can't be detected.

As the later can't be possible with the existent tech, the former also banks in that you somehow CAN evade the murderous and multiple waves of Cannons, Missiles AND Torpedos that will be fired against you once your unit is inside the effective range of a FOF Ship, likely quite a bit above your own, THEN, get into range to fire your weapon systems, then keep evading, firing, or then go. . ."Kamikaze" on a FoF . It means speeds FAR in excess of all known KF, and agility in the same level, something not available for KF as they are now.

Melee stunts with a FoF? Nice way of suicide.

Lloyd will certainly both bless and curse the FoF. For one, he will likely get more, and MORE money and resources, as his insane genius its all but demanded to decode the FoF's weapons, and WMD, and to create or adapt weapons systems to counter the FoF.

For another, his Lancelot will potentially become more and more irrelevant, shelved at one point, as Britannia shifts their production from KF, into trying to counter the rising numbers of FoF, and shifts into Knight Fortress and other units.
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I think you are overestimating the effectiveness of the FoF and underestimating just how in love with the idea of "knights" Britannians are. At this particular point in the timeline Knightmares are only sparsely used in naval operations with only the one type on hand. Even then they are used mostly for their ability to be fast attack submarines that can operate on land. Knightmares themselves are primarily a land based platform until the advent of the float system where they started being useful as an air platform and thus useful at sea.

More than likely they are going to take the Knightmare paradigm and simply size it up to get high performance single pilot battleships or something equally ridiculous. It also bears mentioning that we don't know how the FoF weapons function when confronting Blaze Luminous type defenses. Hell, they might even be able to come up with a counter to the exploding battery weapon.

Now, admittedly, these types of weapons and defenses simply can't be distributed to everyone instantly or even in a relatively quick manner. At best you are only going to see them solely on fleets designed as hunter killers specifically for the FoF ships because the standard is both cheaper and perfectly applicable to every other threat they are likely to meet. Or at least not until after a time skip roles around.
 
Well... I would say one weapons atleast will almost certainly continue to cause them vast headaches, as there probably isn't much they can do against it. Specifically the super gravity canon, which due to being a gravity weapon is near unblockable.

In principle you can stop it with something it strongly couples with I suppose, thus gravitic or spatial defences like Klein Fields. But short of that it will in principle pretty much go through everything and keep going. In Arpeggio they neatly demonstrated this when they once fired one through a 100 km of water and possibly some rock as well. Despite the vast amount of matter in the way, it completely didn't matter at all, as gravity will penetrate through such. (Yes, there are factors that make that near max range for the weapon, but the point is that it wouldn't have cared much if it was a vacuum, air, water or rock)

So I suspect Blaze Luminous at the least won't be very effective against that weapon, and possibly not so much against a few others either, like the Thanatonium weapons. Admittedly these aren't the cheapest of weapons to operate either... so there is that.
 
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