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Res Publica: A Quest of Ancient Rome

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Adhoc vote count started by Crazy7s1 on Apr 6, 2018 at 12:17 AM, finished with 2126 posts and 31 votes.
  • [X] Plan All In
    -[X] The Enemy in the West
    -[x] The Auxiliaries
    -[x] Write to Sertorius
    -[x] Noble Levy
    --[X] Leave them to guard Bovianum and its surrounds.
    --[X] Ask Himatus to find us a number of loyal volunteers to serve as scouts.
    [X] Plan Direct Approach
    -[X] The Enemy in the West
    -[X] Leave the Auxiliaries
    -[X] Write-In: Leave three centuries of the Sixth Cohort, to hold the camp. Bring the other three centuries with Atellus.
    -[X] Write to Sertorius for Reinforcements
    -[X] Noble Levy for Reinforcements​
    --[x] Write-In: Ask Himatus find us a number of loyal volunteers to serve as scouts.​
    [X] Plan Audentes Fortuna Juvat
    -[X] March on the Rebels in the Valley and attempt to defeat them before turning to face Gemino, this plan is risky but with proper timing and skill we need not face the full assembled might of the enemy in any one battle, potentially defeating both forces before they can link up. This also has the advantage of forcing Gemino to come to us at Aesernia, allowing us the ability to fight on ground of our choosing.
    -[X] The Auxilliaries and the Ninth Remain
    -[X] Write to Sertorious for reinforcements
    -[x] Noble Levy
    [X] Plan loot the city
    -[X] to stay and guard the city
    -[X] The Enemy in the West
    -[x] The Auxiliaries
    -[x] Write to Sertorius
    -[x] Noble Levy
    --[X] Leave them to guard Bovianum and its surrounds.
    --[X] Ask Himatus to find us a number of loyal volunteers to serve as scouts.
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Arlos said:
You will walk side-by-side with the sun, but never eclipse him, or he will blind you until the three are one.

....I only noticed now, but those are Caesar, Pompey and Crassus no?
....facing the three of them sound fucking terrifying.
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Nah, it's Caesar. One of the prophecies in his character sheet calls him the sun.
Auguries and Foretellings
The Ides of March [EPIC]: You were approached by a wizened old man in the Forum, and in the voice of an augur, he decreed that the one named Caesar must beware the Ides of March. A great doom lies on the horizon, swiftly approaching for the sun that has grown blind in the light of his own glory.
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Good to see that we managed to step away from the admittedly fun, but ultimately pointless dick measuring of conquerors of different times and ages and now discuss the actual important things in life.
Waifus.:rolleyes:

Oh, and did I see Spartacus discussed? First step would be having a reputation of not abusing your slaves. Shouldn't be that difficult.
 
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Omake: Fragments From Atellus’ Speech to the Gathered Elders of the Pentri
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    • Omake: Fragments from Atellus' Speech to the gathered elders of the Pentri

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    I have seen the hills and valleys of this land, its cities and villages, and everywhere there is desolation. Fallow are your fields, pillaged by criminals and men who care nothing for you and yours. The roads are abandoned, for to travel far from the already broken walls of your cities and towns is to court assault and rape and death. The few men I have seen in the villages are old, and the women all seem at the edge of grief; where now are your sons, your nephews, your grandsons? Dead of starvation, if not seduced by the empty promises of bandit chieftains who have made you all starve.

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    Rome has two hands, sons of Samnium. One holds a sword, the other lies open. Choose her sword hand, and she will end the Samnites, as surely as the coming of dawn. But hold her open hand and she will take up a shield to protect you and yours.

    [...]

    As a son of Rome I come to bring peace and justice. Rome shall not let you starve, so it will not touch your crops for the next year, nor the men needed to harvest them. We have seen the desolation of your land, and so we shall aid you in rebuilding it. And as for your rivals, they have chosen the sword hand. They will know it well in the days to come.

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    IDK. First time I've written an Omake. :p
     
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    • Part of the draw of Cleopatra was the legitimacy she brought with her as one of the last descendants of the diadochi, with Ptolemaic Egypt being the last of the Succesor States with any claim to Alexander's empire.
     
    Telamon said:
    Well, she could just be a crazy lady ranting in rhyme. For all you know, anyone she's heard of reading a book and speaking well could be a 'child of wisdom'.

    Oooooor, she's telling the truth, and she's the living mouthpiece of the divine Apollo.

    Who knows?

    Well...me. I know. But I'm not telling. :V
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    But why "wisdom" when our main activities here have been speeches and law?
     
    Honestly given how much trouble Cleopatra caused for anyone associated with her I'd argue we should stay away from here as much as possible. What we need is a reasonably respectable Roman girl ideally one the comes with a reasonably sizable dowry since our finances are rather limited. We might be able to trade on our honorable name and reputation as a rising star to gain a wife from a younger but very rich family. Good stats are also something to look for, if we could find a wife with good subterfuge and stewardship that would be great.
     
    Undead Martyr said:
    My ideal empire is somewhere between Justinian and Suleiman, and as much thalassocratic as militaristic: in the west, Italia up to the Alps, Africa, the western Isles, perhaps part of OTL Provence and the Hispanic coast; the Danube provinces, clientized a la Transylvania if not annexed a la Dacia, securing the soft underbelly of Illyricum (it is no coincidence that Trajan focused on Mesopotamia and Dacia; Illyricum and Syria are the soft underbellies of the Roman Empire). The east, with the Zagros, has neutered Persia, freeing one's hand to expand their tendrils into eastern Africa and Arabia.

    Gaul, especially northern Gaul, is strictly speaking unnecessary to this vision, but given Roman cultural and political mores a probable prelude to any oriental excursions. Hispania, being relatively isolated behind the Pyrenees, is somewhat more intriguing to such an empire although the interior (beyond say Andalusia and the Catalan and Valencian coasts) can be clientized rather than annexed outright.

    Arabia can be influenced via the Red Sea (which of course requires something of a different mindset, but seeing as this is a quest.... and if Mesopotamia is subdued through the Persian gulf. Trade through what eventually became the Hejaz provides an alternate route.
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    Rome Already Controls Significant Portions of Inland Spain, won off of Carthage during the Second Punic War. Plus Spain is a significant source of manpower for Sertorius, a man we have allied ourselves to. We're already committed to Iberia.

    As to Gaul, we need to conquer them for geopolitical reasons as much as economic ones. At the time of Caesar's Invasion, Vercingetorix of the Arverni was in the process of unifying the Gaullic tribes into a single Kingdom. If we let him do that and solidify his control, his logical next step is to Invade Narbonensis and Cisalpine Gaul to get the Gauls There within his Empire. They do share a common culture, religion, and dislike of Rome. Better we nip that in the bud.

    Britain is probably the Least Required of the IOTL Western Conquests, though it is worth noting that it was an incredibly rich province which even formed the main power base for one of the would be Emperors during the Crisis of the 3rd Century. It would be quite a lucrative conquest that I'd hate to see abandoned.
     
    Simon_Jester said:
    Having major numerical advantages is one of the few ways we have a goodish chance of nullifying Gemino's bonuses; Telamon's examples cited possible -4 to -6 level penalties for being seriously outnumbered. That brings Gemino down to our level, though the famed Samnite Balls of Steel still present a problem.
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    Telamon said:
    Your men would also recieve the (Numerical Superiority) modifier, a straight +6 to all rolls. Unless he pulls multiple crits out his ass and you/Pompolussa simultaneously shit the bed, you'll win handily.
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    Unless Telamon changed it, outnumbering him puts us at around a +12 advantage. Of course, that is the same advantage that the Ninth had and we all know how that turned out for us.:whistle:

    Also voting:
    [X] Plan All In

    I thought about being a contrarian, but the point about shifting garrison duty to the Samnites so that we can take all our men to Sertorius once we are finished with Gemino won me over.

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    No7sHere said:
    Honestly given how much trouble Cleopatra caused for anyone associated with her I'd argue we should stay away from here as much as possible. What we need is a reasonably respectable Roman girl ideally one the comes with a reasonably sizable dowry since our finances are rather limited. We might be able to trade on our honorable name and reputation as a rising star to gain a wife from a younger but very rich family. Good stats are also something to look for, if we could find a wife with good subterfuge and stewardship that would be great.
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    We should also find a wife who Atellus gets along with well. The last thing we want is for Atellus' wife to sleep with his political enemies.
    "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion."
     
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    Why would we be more likely to get along with her? Also she's likely to get eaten alive by Roman politics when what we need is someone who can actually help us with that.
     
    No7sHere said:
    Why would we be more likely to get along with her? Also she's likely to get eaten alive by Roman politics when what we need is someone who can actually help us with that.
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    Seriously speaking, yeah. We'd better go with a nice, chaste, reasonably fertile Roman girl with a mind for business from a respectable family that has connections, preferably connections that don't get us purged by Marius or Sulla.
     
    Some skill with intrigue would also be nice, but what we need is a wife that gains us both connection and can represent us while we're away with the army.
     
    So, bandwawgon time

    [X] Plan All In
    -[X] The Enemy in the West
    -[X] The Auxiliaries
    -[X] Write to Sertorius
    -[X] Noble Levy
    --[X] Leave them to guard Bovianum and its surrounds.
    --[X] Ask Himatus to find us a number of loyal volunteers to serve as scouts.
     
    Die Forelle said:
    Seriously speaking, yeah. We'd better go with a nice, chaste, reasonably fertile Roman girl with a mind for business from a respectable family that has connections, preferably connections that don't get us purged by Marius or Sulla.
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    That's a reason to wait to marry until after the purges.

    Looking at our contemporaries, financially we could do worse than to court Terentia - Wikipedia ahead of Cicero. :) Wealthy, her fathers heir, dowry of 100,000 denarii, lands, property. Downside is she only had two children 13 years apart. Also, a few years too young right now.
     
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    Telamon said:
    You're thinking of Augustus, there. All his military victories were solely due to Agrippa. Marc Antony, despite being lackluster or outright horrible in almost every stat —including administration, diplomacy, intrigue, and stewardship — had a 17 in Charisma and amazing military scores. The 'New Dionysus' indeed.

    And in 83, you will be...20. Good luck convincing the Senate to invade an outhouse, especially after/during a Civil War involving most every person of note alive in Rome.
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    "Proserpina, I will need the most powerful laxatives you can procure."
     
    No7sHere said:
    To anybody who knows, when do we actually get a seat on the senate, we certainly come from a senatorial family?
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    Once we manage to gain the rank of Quaestor (Around the age of 30) plus, IF we don't get something like Sulla's reforms in this timline, a to me unknown amount of time it takes the Censors to update the senatorial rolls.
     
    racnor said:
    But why "wisdom" when our main activities here have been speeches and law?
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    The two big deities associated with wars, heroes, and generals in the Olympian pantheon (which the Etruscans worship with some slight variations) are Ares/Mars and Athena/Minerva. Picking one or the other to refer to any given successful Roman officer is a good bet.
     
    KnightofTempest said:
    We shouldn't be shooting for a Senate seat, we should be shooting for a Consulship, you don't need to be a member of the Senate to be elected Consul
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    I am pretty sure as a descendant of a Senatorial family it is far, far easier to get into the Senate then chosen for consulship (and if I am not wrong the age requirements are also far lower) - in both cases though I would expect at least another five to ten years of "public" service to be necessary.
     
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