Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
We don't know Quelaan's a firekeeper, or that firekeepers have special souls. This will let us find out, hopefully.ImmortalsBlade said:
Red Soul: Back to the Future
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I'm not commenting on IB's reading of the character, but the whole charade with the "chosen Undead" nonsense is implied to by Gwyndolin's, or at the very least he's a key component of it, seeing as it's his illusion of his sister that gives you the Lordvessel and all.1234q1234q said:
Him going after sinners (Velka seems to be the "judge and jury" while the Darkmoon Blades are the "executioner," and I also think that the remains of the Lord's Blades were absorbed into them after Ciaran resigned to stand vigil over Artorias' grave) is a part of his character too, but it's only one part of it- like a lot of people in Dark Souls, Gwyndolin is surprisingly well-developed despite the minimalist storytelling and dialogue.
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[X] "You should go visit her. She'll probably just be happy that you're alive and well. Also, there is something important that I have to tell you. Figure it's something you should know."
- [X] Tell her about your friendship with Oktavia, and the promise you made to her about Quelaag.
- [X] Mention your ability to revive the dead who possessed a special soul, and that Ornstein gave you Quelaag's. You're going back to Anor Londo to talk with Oktavia about this, and how to best handle this entire situation. You're not going to leave things the way are now.
- [X] If Quelana could be there for Quelaan down here while you're figuring out how to tackle this, or if she has any suggestions to make, that'd be great. You'd prefer this conversation to remain a secret, though - particularly when it comes to your ability.
- [X] Tell her about your friendship with Oktavia, and the promise you made to her about Quelaag.
- [X] Mention your ability to revive the dead who possessed a special soul, and that Ornstein gave you Quelaag's. You're going back to Anor Londo to talk with Oktavia about this, and how to best handle this entire situation. You're not going to leave things the way are now.
- [X] If Quelana could be there for Quelaan down here while you're figuring out how to tackle this, or if she has any suggestions to make, that'd be great. You'd prefer this conversation to remain a secret, though - particularly when it comes to your ability.
[X] "You should go visit her. She'll probably just be happy that you're alive and well. Also, there is something important that I have to tell you. Figure it's something you should know."
- [X] Tell her about your friendship with Oktavia, and the promise you made to her about Quelaag.
- [X] Mention your ability to revive the dead who possessed a special soul, and that Ornstein gave you Quelaag's. You're going back to Anor Londo to talk with Oktavia about this, and how to best handle this entire situation. You're not going to leave things the way are now.
- [X] If Quelana could be there for Quelaan down here while you're figuring out how to tackle this, or if she has any suggestions to make, that'd be great. You'd prefer this conversation to remain a secret, though - particularly when it comes to your ability.
- [X] Tell her about your friendship with Oktavia, and the promise you made to her about Quelaag.
- [X] Mention your ability to revive the dead who possessed a special soul, and that Ornstein gave you Quelaag's. You're going back to Anor Londo to talk with Oktavia about this, and how to best handle this entire situation. You're not going to leave things the way are now.
- [X] If Quelana could be there for Quelaan down here while you're figuring out how to tackle this, or if she has any suggestions to make, that'd be great. You'd prefer this conversation to remain a secret, though - particularly when it comes to your ability.
So I looked at the Red Soul Index and I noticed all the removed links and prosaic or spoilery section titles and decided to update / redo the index because they seriously bothered me. Expect Index updates everytime I finish a section in the future.
Undead Parish, Taurus Demon [31]
Church of the Firstborn, Prelude to the First Bell [43]
Church of the Firstborn, Reconciliations with Oscar and a Surprise Half-Dragon. [87] [88] [89] [90] [91] [92]
Church of the Firstborn, The Crest of Artorias [93]
Ruins of Oolacile, Exploring, Looting, and an Invasion [148] [149] [150] [151] [152] [153] [154] [155] [156]
The Abyss, Manus Fight BAD END 4 [167]
Royal Forest, LEEEROY JEEEENKINS! BAD END 5 [212]
???, Back to the Future! ...Or not. [230]
Hyacinthium
Writing about sad cannibals as we speak.
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... did you have to really put that (not) there I mean seriously did you want me to have redo flashbacks did you want to rub salt on my wounds and make me remember the utter help that was watching kaworu lose his head and therefore make me relive every tragedy of pmmm due to Mami also become headless and holy shit why
Why
... did you have to really put that (not) there I mean seriously did you want me to have redo flashbacks did you want to rub salt on my wounds and make me remember the utter help that was watching kaworu lose his head and therefore make me relive every tragedy of pmmm due to Mami also become headless and holy shit why
Why
That reminds me, I should update Crossbreed Quest...Lilithium said:
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
I did ask who died in Crossbreed Quest when we got the family reunion with Mom and Momo.thagguy said:
Hyacinthium
Writing about sad cannibals as we speak.
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I don't even follow crossbred quest but me now cuddle stuffed animals becausethagguy said:
WELP
You look at her for a moment. You just told her that one of her sisters are alive, and she's just...sitting there.
"You should probably go visit her," you say. "She'll probably just be happy that, y'know, yer alive and well and have your original legs. Speakin' of that, there's something I should tell you-"
She stands like a cloud of ash caught in a thermal. "Glad I'm alive and well? I've spent a thousand years in this swamp, teaching humans from the time they stopping wetting themselves until they began again, all while my sister suffered in a spider's nest. No. Why would she want to see me, the coward, craven one? I'm not worthy of her, even in her state. Especially because of it."
[???]
"You should probably go visit her," you say. "She'll probably just be happy that, y'know, yer alive and well and have your original legs. Speakin' of that, there's something I should tell you-"
She stands like a cloud of ash caught in a thermal. "Glad I'm alive and well? I've spent a thousand years in this swamp, teaching humans from the time they stopping wetting themselves until they began again, all while my sister suffered in a spider's nest. No. Why would she want to see me, the coward, craven one? I'm not worthy of her, even in her state. Especially because of it."
[???]
Hyacinthium
Writing about sad cannibals as we speak.
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No. We can still do this.
They both deserve to see each other. For countless reasons.
They both deserve to see each other. For countless reasons.
Long votes tend to get interrupted because people don't generally just sit there and get speechified, especially about emotionally charged topics.Adyen said:
Quelana, as you may have guessed, has MAJOR survivor's guilt and self-worth issues if you talk to her long enough in the game to get past the "I'm The Pyromancer lol you humans are kinda pathetic" dialogue.
Guardian Box
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[x] "Let her decide if you are worthy or not, you owe her at least that much."
Winged Knight
Still just a crazy man with a wolf on his head
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ImmortalsBlade said:
This, here, seems the best way to me. We should listen to this.ImmortalsBlade said:
Seriously, yelling in her face to suck it up or trying to appeal that she go down there by directing her guilt is a stupid idea. Because to pull that off we'd need to have mad social skills. We don't. Hell, it almost certainly wouldn't work even if Kyoko was better at this whole social interaction thing. She isn't. We have to remember this. I din't know why we seem to keep forgetting it. We're really bad at fancy speeches and emotional manipulation! If the situation were drastically in our favor, it might be different. Right here, it's not. All that's going to happen is Quelana is going to wallow in self loathing, ignore what we say and quite possibly kill herself.
So I'm voting we follow ImmortalsBlade's plan.
[X] Now would be a good time to mention you can resurrect those with special souls and that you have Quelaags.
-[X] Explain that you'll be heading to Oktavia to find out what's the best way to go about this as well as to see if she can heal Quelaan.
[X] Tell her that even with Oktavia you doubt you'll be able to pull this off without her help.
Winged Knight
Still just a crazy man with a wolf on his head
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This is a good point. But I still don't think we should rely purely on an emotional appeal. We're just not good at it, overall. Well, we're just not good at the finer points of social interaction period. If there was some way to use an emotional appeal to get her to be quiet, and then quickly explain why she should listen to us, that would be great. Bugger all if I know how to phrase it, though.dan-heron said:
This... could also be an issue. She could quite possibly ask us to do this, and I'm pretty sure we're waiting till we have Oktavia backing us up and helping us go about this in a way that hopefully doesn't blow up in our face.Adyen said:
Just the meeting beneath Ash Lake would be axed.1234q1234q said: