Reach Heaven Via Feng Shui Engineering, Drug Trade And Tax Evasion

A lot of stories like this, with smart protagonists facing weird challenges with intricate rules, will succumb to the HPJEV Trap, making those protagonists pure rationality—not so much a person as a vessel for the author's vision of Smartness. Having Shanyi admit something like this after going on a "This is my master plan" spiel does a lot to defang that issue.
In fairness to Eliezer Yudkowsky, in Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, he did make it very clear in the climax that his Potter (HPJEV) had not been nearly as clever as he (Potter) thought he was being the whole time. Not about the big macro-level stuff, anyway.

If I recall correctly, there is a scene in or near the epilogue where HPJEV specifically sits down and thinks "I have been a fucking idiot, I stupidly allowed an enemy with horrible plans for the world to lure me into his confidence, manipulate me into helping him, and cut me off from other support structures, the only reason this didn't end in global disaster is because other people did the right things while I was busily doing the wrong things. I need to seriously raise the level of my game."

It's just that structurally, the way Yudkowsky wrote the story involves HJPEV being insufferably smug and frequently right about little-to-medium things for a very, very long time before the chickens come home to roost and the consequences of his being very, very wrong about big things at least begin to teach him some measure of humility.

So everyone just remembers the smugness.
 
That said, this thread is not about HPMoR.
No, but an argument could be made that Reach Heaven Etc falls into the "rational fiction" category, the same way that stories like Worm, Mother of Learning, and Ender's Game arguably do. (See this Tumblr post for most of that argument.) If someone wanted to make a point about RHvFSEDTTE's ratficcy elements, it makes sense to compare those elements to HPMOR, the genre's type specimen.

Making points about HPMoR in isolation is...less topical.
 
Chapter 32: Chart Your Path Through Lines Of Math
Qian Shanyi watched Lan Yu copy the maps with fascination. It was pure cultivation, raw shaping of spiritual energy - something she had been missing with all this business of luck and heavens and almost dying or being sent back to her sect. Cultivating Three Obediences Four Virtues felt good, that much was true - but there was always that tint to it, of needing to do it for her own safety. But here, she could simply enjoy the spectacle for what it was - just like she did back in the Golder Rabbit Bay, when the occasion presented itself.

Lan Yu covered one of the tables with a wide sheet of white paper and stretched the map over it, smoothing it out with careful strokes of her fingers. The only light source left in the room was a single talisman lantern hanging just above the table, and her movements sent shadows dancing all across the room.

With a flick of her wrist, a small inkwell and brush fell into her palm from the sleeve of her robes, and Qian Shanyi felt spiritual energy spread out from the postmaster. It stretched over the map, and she heard the quiet crumple of paper as it lifted a single finger width into the air. The brush danced in Lan Yu's fingers, slashing through a series of complex characters, and a single drop of ink flew out of the inkwell, vanishing underneath the map. Bending low, she saw it split up, stretch, and spread into a pattern, covering the entire white sheet in those areas where dark lines were projected from the map above by the incoming light.

With another flick of the wrist, the original map flew back into Lan Yu's hands, leaving an identical copy to dry on the table.

A simple technique, applied for a complex purpose. Qian Shanyi wished she could have learned it from this one glance, but there was no chance of that - she had no way to observe the circulation of spiritual energy within Lan Yu's body, and that was the most important part.

"That will be four silver yuan," Lan Yu told her once both maps were left out to dry, "Six if you also want a scroll case for them."

"Quite expensive." She sighed, taking out her gold pouch and counting out the coins, "But I suppose you need to pay for the craftsmanship."

"I don't set the prices," Lan Yu said, taking the money, and giving her a strict look, "Don't make me regret giving you a chance… Lan Yishan."

She smiled, nodded, and settled down to wait for the ink to dry.

Twenty minutes later, maps in a scroll case over her shoulder and a bag of supplies in hand, she made her way out of the town and up into the hills surrounding the canyon. She dropped her veil down, of course - there was no need to tempt fate by having yet another person recognise her.

Soon, she found a wide flat area to set herself up. It was time to triangulate.

The heavenly vow (and the corresponding narrow luck) let her know when she was looking in Wang Yonghao's direction, but that, by itself, was not enough. She needed a much more precise measurement: not only a vague direction, but the exact angle she could use to draw lines on a map. For this, she needed to craft a dioptra: a tool for measuring angles between points on the landscape.

Dioptra itself was a simple device, merely an angle compass with a plank attached that could be used to sight down objects. The market did not sell them, for most people had no need for surveying tools, especially in a small town the size of Xiaohongshan. Fortunately, the materials were easy to find.


The first step was making an angle compass: a piece of wood with regular angles marked out. She couldn't find it at the market - the only alternative she saw was a geomantic compass that was far too expensive for her needs - but making one herself was not too difficult.

First, she used a length of thread ten meters long to trace out a wide circle around the small board that would be her compass. Then, she folded her thread in half four times in a row, and used it to mark out regular sectors on the traced circle. With a bit of mental math, she knew that each of them would represent about three point six degrees of arc length.

The rest was tedious work. She tied her thread to a pair of stakes to form a line between the center of the circle and its edge, and started to mirror the markings on the smaller board in the middle. Stick a stake into a point at the edge of a sector - run to the center of the circle - mark out the position of the thread against the board with a tiny brush, making sure to keep the thread straight and undisturbed - run back to the edge of the circle - move the stake one point over - repeat. It took her a good half an hour, in the end.

She could have done it faster by making a smaller circle - but the larger the circle, the smaller the angular errors would be, and since she only needed to do this once, she wanted the scale to be as accurate as possible.

With the angle compass complete, she hammered it into the stool for support, and quickly made the sighting plank - witht wo nails on each end to sight down the objects on the landscape, one nail to support it against the exact center of the angle compass, letting the plank swing around freely, and a final nail pointing to the angular markings on the side.

One might have thought that the only thing left was to take out her divination bottle and start measuring, but it was not quite so simple. The further away she faced from the "right" direction, the more the dice would tell her to turn back; but this change occurred quite slowly. At best, she could only narrow down Wang Yonghao's direction to a thirty degree wide arc.

Instead, she needed to figure out where the boundaries of this "right" arc were. About fifteen degrees to the right from the center the bottle would begin to tell her to turn left, dice counts shifting until she was a full thirty degrees off, at which point they started to level off again. Results of each individual roll varied, and so she averaged them out, making three rolls for every individual direction, writing down the angles where the dice counts crossed certain boundaries. An average of these measurements for each side of the arc was bound to be its actual center.

Once she had that number, she got up off her knees, and spent five minutes stretching her tired neck and back. She felt stiff all over: if she ever rebuilt this dioptra, she would use a stool tall enough that she could actually stand next to it.

With the right angle in mind, she marked down her position on the map and drew a long line to the very edge of the paper, in the direction of Wang Yonghao.

Halfway done. Now she just needed to do it all over again, at a spot a couple miles away.

She packed up the stool and sighting plank into her bag, hefted it over her shoulder, and sprinted off, her breathing as regular as a clock. The bag shifted awkwardly on her back, hitting her in the shoulder and making her gait awkward, and it took her a couple minutes to find a good way to hold it stable.

As she ran, she sank into the flow, and let her thoughts run free. Last night was a low point for her, but the morning brought clarity with it, and she felt her worries begin to dissolve away. She had a way to find Yonghao. She had money for travel. She had even managed to convince Lan Yu to not report her - and if she knew anything about people, that was a solid conviction, not a fleeting one. And even though the vow still rested heavily in her mind, she already knew what she was going to do about it - the only thing remaining was to put her plans in motion.

Just like the skies were the darkest just before the dawn, her times of despair were surely about to end.

Halfway through her run, her spiritual energy had finally recovered enough for her to spin it into a self-sustaining loop, and she held it carefully, slowly pulling more and more spiritual energy out of the forest air. It only got easier from there, and she pushed herself to run faster, grinning as she hopped over roots and flew over small chasms, her bags feeling lighter with every minute. Even after almost a decade of cultivation, the joy of moving with the help of spiritual energy did not get any less exhilarating - she could only imagine how good surfing on a flying sword must be.

She laughed, kicking off a tall tree and grabbing a tall rock outcropping, easily hefting herself over the edge. One more measurement. Just one more, and she'd know exactly where Yonghao was. Finally, it was all coming together.

The hills next to the town swiftly turned into a forest, but what she needed was an open area, one where she could sight local landmarks to determine her precise position, so it took her almost an hour to find a good clearing to set up. Thankfully, at least she no longer needed it to be flat.

Her heart beat faster as she did her measurements, and she had to force it to still, lest she make a mistake. When she was done, she brought out the map, her hands trembling with worry that somehow, it would all fall apart at the last second, and drew the second line.

The lines crossed, on a city a hundred and fifty kilometers away.

"Yes!" She cheered, leaping into the air, laughing maniacally.

It worked, it actually worked! Up until the last moment, she was sure it would somehow fail.

To celebrate, she pulled out her sword, spun a thread control technique around her silk rope, and swung from tree to tree, slicing off leaves and branches. If only she could actually fly, or circulate a more impressive technique - something like the Honk of the Solar Goose, one that could make blasts of sword light - but that too would come, in time.

Ten minutes later, and still grinning from ear to ear, she landed back down on the forest clearing, and took out the second map. It was time to plan her travel.

The map for flying sword navigation was accurate to the terrain - helpful for those flying through the sky, who had nothing else to navigate by except geographic landmarks - and thus also great for triangulation, but entirely useless for regular travel. A kilometer in the sky was always the same, no matter what was below your feet - but back down on the ground, going ten kilometers downstream would take perhaps an hour in a good boat, whereas ten kilometers across a mountain range could easily take several days. If you wanted to plan your travels, you needed a different map entirely - one that redrew the world in terms of times and routes, more of a graph of movement than a pictorial representation of terrain.

She quickly found the city in question, and after a bit rof calculation, she had her figure. Five days, assuming no delays. She would have to travel downsteam, and then upstream a different tributary.

She spent a week in this town, but Wang Yonghao was a mere five days away from her. Really, she was ahead of the curve.

"Well, Yonghao," she whispered, getting up off the ground and pointing her sword in his direction, grinning maliciously, "shall we see wherever the mouse can truly escape the fox?"

"What do you mean, you do not have a spot?" she asked, growing irritated, "I asked you yesterday, and we all but agreed on the job then and there. Now I am merely asking to be ferried downstream for a couple days. What changed?"

"I must apologize, honorable immortal Lan," the older merchant bowed deeply, "but the traveler cabins have all been filled up since then."

"I don't need a cabin," she sighed. This was the third time in a row she was getting the runaround, and it didn't get any less baffling. "I can sleep on the deck itself if need be. I can cook and protect your vessel, for free - how do you not have a spot?"

"All the same," - the merchant shrugged - "we don't have any space."

She closed her eyes, rubbing them in frustration, and then turned and walked away without saying goodbye. It was rude, but if the fucker wanted her to be polite, he shouldn't have been lying straight to her face.

Yesterday, while she was seeking out rumors about Wu Lanhua, she also asked a fair few people wherever they could let her travel on their ship. Most agreed immediately, and in fact were asking if they could hire her on for a long term contract. Today, it was like all of them changed their minds overnight, and marked her out as an outcast.

What could have happened? Did she piss off someone important back at the party? But she barely even talked to anyone...

This setback could not even begin to dampen her incredible mood, but she needed to think, and so she paid for a small teapot of jasmine tea from a street vendor and settled down at one of the tables in front of his stall to relax. A couple other customers gave her elegant robes assessing looks, but made no comments, and her veiled hat hid her expression from sight. After the run into the forest and then back into town, the cheap tea smelled sweet, like a heavenly medicine.

Her cup paused on the way to her lips, as gears finally clicked in her head. She put it down without taking a sip, and cursed that emerald-dressed snake of a woman. That sent some more looks her way, but she ignored them - thankfully, she at least brought herself short of saying the name out loud.

Wu Lanhua must have sent a message to the other merchants in town in the morning, none of whom would want to pick a fight with the biggest magnate if they could avoid it. Back then, she wondered why she didn't try to push her to stay during their breakfast, but this explained it - she was just stalling for time. It was probably also why she invited her to sleep overnight, and why she wasn't worried about giving Qian Shanyi her seal, even though it gave up a measure of control.

Her goal was obvious - it made it harder for Qian Shanyi to leave town. There were two reasons why she might have decided to do this: a bad one, and an annoying one. Either way, she would have to go talk to the woman to find out what her intentions were.

She sighed, closed her eyes, and sipped from her tea cup. The tea really was nice, and there was no reason to waste it.

She'd go talk to her right away.

Just… not until her teapot was empty.

"Ah, Yishan! What a fortunate meeting," Wu Lanhua smiled, meeting her eyes. She found her in the middle of ordering around some sailors in the docks, loading up boxes onto a slender, long ship with sails that seemed like the wings of a perched bird, ready to set flight.

"Ah, honorable merchant Wu," she responded in a flat tone, coming closer. The sailors quickly left the two of them alone. "Are you behind all ships in Xiaohongshan mysteriously barring me from boarding?"

"Barring you from boarding?" Wu Lanhua fluttered her eyelashes, "What a travesty. But where might you be headed?"

"Downstream," she said, "I hope you realize you cannot prevent me from leaving? I will hitch a ride uninvited, if need be."

"Whyever would I want to prevent you from leaving, Yishan?" Wu Lanhua shook her head. "I am saddened to see my friend leave us so soon, but I could hardly stop you. But if you are heading downstream, could I perhaps offer my own ship? It is the fastest in the city, and I just happened to head in the same direction."

So it was the annoying reason: she wanted to control how she left, force them to travel together, perhaps to give her more time to persuade her to stay.

"Why this charade? You could have told me you intended to do this in the morning." She shook her head.

"You didn't even know where you were headed this morning," Wu Lanhua pointed out, raising an eyebrow, "and besides, I would have thought you would ask me before the others."

Qian Shanyi didn't want to ask her exactly because she didn't want her to know where she was headed.

She snorted, leaning in close to Wu Lanhua, the veil around her hat almost touching her face.

"Are you quite sure about what you said that night?" She whispered quietly, "Pushing me to travel with you, together on the same ship? Does this not look like courtship?"

Wu Lanhua did not even offer her the courtesy of blushing.

"Please, Yishan," she said instead, "Liu Fakuang would be traveling with us, of course, for we have to settle some things before our wedding. I hope you can refrain from impropriety?"

Qian Shanyi pursed her lips. Traveling together with that karmist bastard… She doubted she could avoid a confrontation if they spent more time together. Hiding her contraband swords would be bad enough, but by far the greatest trouble would be in keeping her mouth shut about what she thought about him.

Wu Lanhua knew it, too - probably intended it to scare her off her chase after Wang Yonghao. How naive.

"Well, lead the way, honorable merchant Wu." Qian Shanyi gave her a mocking bow, "Let us set off right away, on our small river journey."

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Halfway done. Now she just needed to do it all over again, at a spot a couple miles away
I have to say I loved that whole sequence. So often people have some sort of directional sensing going on but completely fail to take proper advantage of it (sometimes they have valid reasons, like lack of time). And I loved the way you minimised inaccuracy and showed the workings.
 
No, but an argument could be made that Reach Heaven Etc falls into the "rational fiction" category, the same way that stories like Worm, Mother of Learning, and Ender's Game arguably do. (See this Tumblr post for most of that argument.) If someone wanted to make a point about RHvFSEDTTE's ratficcy elements, it makes sense to compare those elements to HPMOR, the genre's type specimen.

Making points about HPMoR in isolation is...less topical.
I personally much prefer the thought along the lines of what alexander wales has outlined here, putting ratfic in terms of narrative focus; if you go in that direction, then I think this story can fairly be considered a ratfic, though I think it differs fairly substantially from more central examples on a variety of measures.

And of course if you look at it from the perspective of how well a story did on the /r/rational subreddit, then the answer is quite poorly - I initially posted updates there, but after chapter 6 interest fell off a cliff, and I stopped bothering. Given that none of my readers - a fair number of whom I know for a fact read that sub - have reposted it there since, I consider my judgement of the overall lack of interest from the subreddit to be correct.
 
With the angle compass complete, she hammered it into the stool for support, and quickly made the sighting plank - witht wo nails on each end to sight down the objects on the landscape, one nail to support it against the exact center of the angle compass, letting the plank swing around freely, and a final nail pointing to the angular markings on the side.

with two



Lol Wu Lanhua is playing a delightful game, I look forward to seeing what her prize is at the end of the small river journey. Qian Shanyi isn't really close to her last straw and she just got her new identity, so probably nothing overt. I don't believe Wu Lanhua still considers Qian Shanyi joining up as feasible (I could be wrong) so it makes one wonder if she's angling (unknowingly?) to be a fence for Wang Yonghao and Qian Shanyi's 'lucky' lucre.
 
Lol Wu Lanhua is playing a delightful game, I look forward to seeing what her prize is at the end of the small river journey. Qian Shanyi isn't really close to her last straw and she just got her new identity, so probably nothing overt. I don't believe Wu Lanhua still considers Qian Shanyi joining up as feasible (I could be wrong) so it makes one wonder if she's angling (unknowingly?) to be a fence for Wang Yonghao and Qian Shanyi's 'lucky' lucre.
I sorta wonder if it is some that and some she just enjoys having someone to mentally/verbally spar with. She certainly seemed to find their little drama more interesting than anything else going on.
 
I originally read the chapter title as "Lines of Meth", which gave me a rather different idea of where it was going to go.
 
Hmmm. This has got me wondering more about the cosmology of this universe.

When they went through the river passage that was just a dimensional tunnel between sections there wasn't any description of changing gravity or direction. There weren't descriptions of loops or changing orientation, and there also wasn't any description of being able to look in on sections through the sides, despite passing the suns.

Does this imply that gravity and orientation are a universal constant, unaffected by the shape of the sections? Like a series of glass orbs hanging from a ceiling, they all share the same inertial reference frame. As opposed to each section having its own orientation and gravity. Thinking back on it, Wang Yonghao's pocket dimension was always oriented the same way, in line with wherever they were.

I suppose that this sorta falls in line with the heavens/tribulations, etc. If the heavens are 'up' then all world sections are oriented such that gravity pulls away from the heavens.

Though that begs the question: is heaven an infinite plane, or is it a point, or sphere? If you travel sufficiently far through world sections, would you get to a point where 'up' is essentially reversed, like walking around the inside of an O'Neill cylinder?

This is all sorta beside the point that set me onto this in the first place. Are all world sections more or less in line, not really being higher or lower than one another?

Say that Wang Yonghao manages to find his way into another section which is directly above the section which Qian Shanyi is in (if this is even possible). Would this be detectable in terms of a lower overall probability?
 
I personally much prefer the thought along the lines of what alexander wales has outlined here, putting ratfic in terms of narrative focus; if you go in that direction, then I think this story can fairly be considered a ratfic, though I think it differs fairly substantially from more central examples on a variety of measures.
I struggle to understand what Wales thinks rational fic is.

The first two "counter-rationals" suggest that having an in-universe explanation isn't sufficient; the explanation needs to be reasonably intuitive from an out-of-universe perspective. I loosely agree with this, but anyone familiar with the rational fic genre knows there's much more to it than that. A strict reading of that claim would disqualify functionally all fantasy and all but the hardest sci-fi from being "rational fiction," and the type specimen is a Harry Potter fanfic. So we can't put too much weight on that.

The point about narrative framing is oddly-framed, ironically, but I think I get what he's trying to say. If the narrative focuses on the protagonist's inner conflict—on philosophical or moral concerns they have with what they should do—it's less not rational fic, or at least it's less rational fic. If it focuses on the protagonist trying to do the thing they've already decided they need to do, it has "the thinkiness that I would associate with rational fiction".

It feels like Alexander Wales is framing other peoples' definitions of rational fic as "avoiding plot holes," which feels disingenuous, but maybe I haven't seen any sufficiently moronic definitions of rational fic. It's not a discourse I've delved deeply into. Instead, he seems to define it as a narrative which focuses on a protagonist figuring out how to do things.

If he wrote that one sentence, I'd probably shrug and agree. But he didn't. First off, there's a bunch of prattle about what rational fic isn't, which seems ultimately unrelated to his apparent thesis. Second, there's the implication that the more a story focuses on its protagonist's inner life, beyond them planning to do the things they want to do, the less "rational fic" that story becomes. I disagree with that.

It's not that different from (part of) my definition. I described a "rational narrative" as...oh, I didn't actually write that part, I just kinda implied it. Oops. Anyways, I think it makes sense to describe that "rational narrative" as a series of problems that the protagonist needs to find a way to resolve, because there isn't an obvious solution available. Wales says that that rational narrative is not focusing on anything else, downplaying or not including "the internal conflict" a protagonist experiences.

So I guess my beef with the post is that it tries to define the "narrative focus" of rational fic by defining what it's not, which I think is an unhelpful way to frame a discussion of genre. It tries to exclude rather than include, to focus on drawing lines in the sand instead of exploring the essence of the genre. I guess that works for someone who just wants to fit things into "the right box," but if you want to actually discuss a genre, its context and history and above all the actual stories in the genre, it's useless.
 
Reach Heaven Etc falls into the "rational fiction" category

It doesn't.

The protagonist makes stupid mistakes that could have been avoided by thinking about things at least five minutes.

Sending letters when she wants to disappear.

Trying to sell swords instead of demon cores.

Trusting that the guy who keeps running away wouldn't run away from her.

The protagonist has rational moments but it also has impulsive moments and is the impulsive moments what drive the story.

Without those, she would still be in her sect, suffering.
 
It doesn't.

The protagonist makes stupid mistakes that could have been avoided by thinking about things at least five minutes.
So, do you define rational fic as "a story where the protagonist does not make mistakes"? Then I'm sorry to say HPMoR does not qualify as a rational fic. After all, Harry:
  • Harry never questions Quirrel's trustworthiness, even though a bunch of people told him he's untrustworthy.
  • Explains biases to other people that he'd recognize in himself if he thought about it for five minutes. (Like Neville's guilt complex.)
  • Puts his foot in his mouth with some regularity.
  • Is generally overconfident, which might just be confidence if he was a perfectly rational hero, but he isn't.
And that's just the stuff HPMoR fans put on his TV Tropes character page, not even the Headscratchers page, and certainly not examples I could dig up if I reread the fic, which almost certainly exist but I'm not gonna reread it just to prove a point slightly better.

Trying to define a genre by what it's not is a foolish choice no matter what your criteria are, but a criterion this absolute makes it so much worse. Especially when it's "The character does not have any character flaws relevant to the plot."
 
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So, do you define rational fic as "a story where the protagonist does not make mistakes"?

No, I define it as "The protagonist is or at least tries to be rational most of the time."

By that definition The Saga of Tanya the Evil, known in Japan as Yōjo Senki fits while that Harry Potter fic and this story doesn't.

Using science to do things is not rationalism, rationalism is trying to do things by logic and facts instead of emotions.

Now that doesn't mean the protagonist can't be wrong, but it means that the protagonist main actions can't be impulsive, or is not being rational but emotional.
 
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So, do you define rational fic as "a story where the protagonist does not make mistakes"? Then I'm sorry to say HPMoR does not qualify as a rational fic.
A lot of people would say that the genre is inspired by what HPMoR said it was doing, but very clearly didn't do, since it was actually written to recruit people into a weird cult. There's nothing rational about actively rejecting evidence-based science in favour of chanting Bayes Bayes Bayes and declaring your preconceived ideas to be logically true.

It's kind of a mess of a genre, conceptually, but that just makes it a useful reminder that genres are marketing and labels.
 
No, I define it as "The protagonist is or at least tries to be rational most of the time."
Nice motte-and-bailey argument. It would be a shame if someone pointed out this claim was incompatible with your initial argument.
The protagonist makes stupid mistakes that could have been avoided by thinking about things at least five minutes.

Sending letters when she wants to disappear.

Trying to sell swords instead of demon cores.

Trusting that the guy who keeps running away wouldn't run away from her.
Oh, what's this? An attempt to prove that a story isn't rational fic by pointing out a handful of times when the protagonist failed to be rational? Even though those could be failures at "trying to be rational," or some of the exceptions?


Plus, that definition is just worthlessly broad. No offense to Lord of the Rings, but by this definition, LotR, Dragon Ball, and James Cameron's Avatar are all rational fic. Also the original Harry Potter.
I'd say 30% of the problem is that "rational" is a very vague term, 15% is "tries to be" and "most of the time," and the rest is that you're missing the point of rational fic.

We're veering off-topic, so I'll fold the rest of my argument into a spoiler.
At heart, "trying to be rational most of the time" just means trying to reasonably or logically find the best way to achieve your goals, most of the time. Pretty much everyone tries to do that, and most characters are written to resemble real people. Of course most characters will "try to be rational most of the time".

Let's look at Son Goku. He wants to get stronger and fight strong people, and uses his two brain cells to try as hard as he can to find the best way to achieve those goals. Most people don't consider "fight strong people" to be a rational goal, but that's not how rationality works. Rationality is the car's engine, not its navigation system.

Goku tries to be rational most of the time. So why is Dragon Ball not rational fic?

To start with, the worldbuilding isn't particularly consistent. Not the power system, not the cosmology, not the existence of animal-people. (Akira Toriyama is (in)famous for both writing by the seat of his pants and forgetting plot details from past arcs.) The power system is the most important here, since it limits how Goku's rationality affects the plot.

Goku does have clever tricks, he does plan his fights, he does think on the fly. But he can't pull off the kinds of convoluted plans that Taylor Hebert or Zorian Kazinski or Ender Wiggin do, let alone the research HPMOR does, because the details are so wibbly-wobbly. Partly because of this, the plot's problems can't be solved by Goku's rationality alone. He finds a lot of clever ways to use his ki and techniques when fighting Frieza, and those help, but they aren't enough to beat him. He needs to go Super Saiyan.

The solution to most problems in Dragon Ball is not for Goku to think about what he knows about his and his opponent's techniques. That's not not part of the story, and it's even more prominent in other shonen battle manga that are still clearly not rational fic. The solution to problems in Dragon Ball (and those other series, to varying extents) is generally to get stronger. Sometimes that means honing your body, sometimes it means finding a new mentor who can teach you something, sometimes it means being pushed far enough to unlock a new hair color. One way or another, they succeed more by improving their abilities than by reaching some epiphany on how to use them.
If you forced me to reduce my definition of rational fic from several paragraphs describing common characteristics to a single statement, that would be it. Rational fic is not a matter of how smart you think the characters acted, but whether the plot's problems are solved by that protagonist thinking of a better solution.

I don't think that single-sentence definitions are a good way to think about genre, but this single-sentence matches the sorts of stories rational fic fans discuss better than "Does the protagonist make mistakes I think are stupid?"



And my response to finbikkifin is definitely off-topic. If you're interested in arguing about genre with me, though, I'd recommend reading it.
A lot of people would say that the genre is inspired by what HPMoR said it was doing, but very clearly didn't do, since it was actually written to recruit people into a weird cult. There's nothing rational about actively rejecting evidence-based science in favour of chanting Bayes Bayes Bayes and declaring your preconceived ideas to be logically true.

It's kind of a mess of a genre, conceptually, but that just makes it a useful reminder that genres are marketing and labels.
Yes, but that doesn't make them meaningless. This is most obvious in works which overtly toy with their genres—deconstructions and satires and reconstructions and pastiches and so on. Try to explain Watchmen without invoking superheroes, Discworld without invoking fantasy, One Punch Man without invoking shonen battle anime. I won't say it's impossible, but it's a lot more convoluted if you don't let yourself say "You know that thing where an anime dude shows how strong he is by beating someone else with one punch?"

Genre isn't just useful for explaining premises; it's a framework for analyzing and discussing narratives or works of art in general. But to use it that way, we need to disconnect genre from authorial intent.
Did Giovanni Medrano know he was building the first neoclassical building when he designed the Palace of the Viceroys? Did Mary Shelley know she was writing the first science fiction novel when she wrote Frankenstein? Did Tom Hall and John Carmack know they were making the first FPSs when they designed and programmed Hovertank?

With regard to rational fic, we need to be aware that not all rational fic was deliberately following HPMOR. Eliezer Yudkowsky and his fans talk about Taylor Hebert like she's the second coming of HJPEV, so if we accept that death of the author applies to genre, Worm is rational fiction. But Wildbow does not consider Taylor to be a rational paragon worth emulating; the story would be very different if it were.

Trying to define genre in terms of authorial intent is silly. If we want to define rational fic, we shouldn't ask what Yudkowsky tried to write; we should ask what similarities he and his fans see between HPMOR, Worm, et cetera.
 
And of course if you look at it from the perspective of how well a story did on the /r/rational subreddit, then the answer is quite poorly - I initially posted updates there, but after chapter 6 interest fell off a cliff, and I stopped bothering. Given that none of my readers - a fair number of whom I know for a fact read that sub - have reposted it there since, I consider my judgement of the overall lack of interest from the subreddit to be correct.
Eh.

I think that not all stories that could reasonably accurately be described as "rational fic" will be equally appealing to a self-identified "rationalist" audience. For instance, your protagonist isn't really kicking ass; most of her cunning and resourcefulness is going into just staying off the grid and finding any way at all to pursue her goals while keeping her independence. Contrast this to stories like Worm or Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality where there are fairly early 'wins' to establish that This Character Is Cool And Smart.

The kind of person who likes those stories may not like this story, which doesn't necessarily say bad things about your story.

Or, cynically, a lot of people on r/rational may be put off by a story where the protagonist is a woman who forces the talented but lazy and (in effect) unlucky male deuteragonist to work hard and apply himself at practical shit. I wonder why. :p
 
I like this story, and I also think it's quite a lot like rationalist fiction. The 'laws of nature' are cultivation themed but are internally consistent as far as my meagre faculties can tell and the protagonist attempts to optimize and engineer a solution using those principles. (I'm also familiar with the principles since I've played a lot of Amazing Cultivation Simulator). It has a cultivation setting where society is structured in noncrazy ways and characters behave reasonably based on their knowledge and backgrounds.

Many ratfics focus on the protagonist applying physics and the scientific method to do cool new things in the setting, but she's mostly not doing that which may be why it didn't get a lot of traction. Her engineered solution to MC-kun's trash pile of priceless treasures made sense to me because I've played ACS, but most people haven't played that game and wouldn't instinctively wince when finding out about the trash pile. Honestly, the triangulation was cool, but I'm more interested in what happens when she catches up with the doofus MC-kun.
 
So I've just read the whole story and there are parts of this that are a lot of fun. Really enjoyed the MC's intelligence and trial and error with Feng Sui engineering. I liked the unmotivated Xianxia protag.

However, the main character is incredibly unlikable. So much so that I found myself skimming this arc of her running around without any engineering being done.

I don't buy that she's unlikable because she's a strong woman. She's unlikable because she's selfish and mean.

Yeah, the Xianxia protag did owe her a LOT due to him knocking her unconscious and kidnapping her (which, btw, seems super out of character from what we've seen from him). However, what has she gotten in return? An unparalleled spiritual environment. A unique cultivation method perfectly suited for her. Rare techniques and opportunities. All of which are things that Xianxia cultivators would murders thousands for, without a thought. This kidnapping is the best thing to ever happen to her.

So in my view, they're already far past even.

She treats him, the only really sympathetic character in the story thus far, terribly. He treats her with 100% sincerity. So it's like watching someone bullying a puppy. She was right to be cautious about his character. But you can be cautious without being cruel. She later admits she enjoys tricking people, which excuses absolutely nothing when she's the only one laughing.

Moreover, she doesn't actually seem to care about him, only what he can offer her. He gets practically nothing out of their partnership, she gets everything. It's parasitic, which wouldn't be a problem if they actually liked one another and had the same goals. They don't.

It's strange to like everything about this story except her character.

I'll keep reading because I'm hopeful the MC can have some remorse and character development and they might actually be able to forge a genuine partnership and friendship. There's also a lot about her character I enjoy. She's intellectually brilliant, clever, and has a mischievous streak.

But it's difficult to root for her as she is now.
 
So I've just read the whole story and there are parts of this that are a lot of fun. Really enjoyed the MC's intelligence and trial and error with Feng Sui engineering. I liked the unmotivated Xianxia protag.

However, the main character is incredibly unlikable. So much so that I found myself skimming this arc of her running around without any engineering being done.

I don't buy that she's unlikable because she's a strong woman. She's unlikable because she's selfish and mean.

Yeah, the Xianxia protag did owe her a LOT due to him knocking her unconscious and kidnapping her (which, btw, seems super out of character from what we've seen from him). However, what has she gotten in return? An unparalleled spiritual environment. A unique cultivation method perfectly suited for her. Rare techniques and opportunities. All of which are things that Xianxia cultivators would murders thousands for, without a thought. This kidnapping is the best thing to ever happen to her.

So in my view, they're already far past even.

She treats him, the only really sympathetic character in the story thus far, terribly. He treats her with 100% sincerity. So it's like watching someone bullying a puppy. She was right to be cautious about his character. But you can be cautious without being cruel. She later admits she enjoys tricking people, which excuses absolutely nothing when she's the only one laughing.

Moreover, she doesn't actually seem to care about him, only what he can offer her. He gets practically nothing out of their partnership, she gets everything. It's parasitic, which wouldn't be a problem if they actually liked one another and had the same goals. They don't.

It's strange to like everything about this story except her character.

I'll keep reading because I'm hopeful the MC can have some remorse and character development and they might actually be able to forge a genuine partnership and friendship. There's also a lot about her character I enjoy. She's intellectually brilliant, clever, and has a mischievous streak.

But it's difficult to root for her as she is now.

If MC really was so horrible, she would just honor her promise to the heavens. I like her, her worldview causes her problems and she sticks through it, to the consequences.
 
Yeah, the Xianxia protag did owe her a LOT due to him knocking her unconscious and kidnapping her (which, btw, seems super out of character from what we've seen from him). However, what has she gotten in return? An unparalleled spiritual environment. A unique cultivation method perfectly suited for her. Rare techniques and opportunities. All of which are things that Xianxia cultivators would murders thousands for, without a thought. This kidnapping is the best thing to ever happen to her.
I mean, his behavior is out of character for him but part of his deal is that rather than him in the drivers seat, his luck is absurd and crazy enough enough that it is effectively in the drivers seat in terms of what happens a decent amount of the time. He wasn't exactly deciding what to do in the best of environments as a result and so did something that he would likely have never done otherwise. Stressed and rushed people doing stupid things isn't limited to cultivation worlds.

I think part of her response is that his apparent behavior are antithical to how she views the world (though much of this is due to the inane situations he finds himself in). He may be genuinely a decent person but he did knock her out, kidnap her, and then ditch her with swords she can't actually sell (though i wouldn't be surprised if he didn't realize this part because his luck was such that he could sell anything he wanted). The kidnapping may be the best thing that ever happened to her but for someone who values being in control, the whole experience has been one long run of not being so.

Moreover, she doesn't actually seem to care about him, only what he can offer her. He gets practically nothing out of their partnership, she gets everything. It's parasitic, which wouldn't be a problem if they actually liked one another and had the same goals. They don't.
Given her past, one wonders if she can even conceive of someone having a relationship tied to cultivation where the people involved actually care about each other. Her history with cultivation related relationships is her sect which is a mess of red flags on its own. She is as selfish as she is because she honestly thinks everyone is this way and it seems several of those she interacted with regularily in the past were so.

She was right to be cautious about his character. But you can be cautious without being cruel. She later admits she enjoys tricking people, which excuses absolutely nothing when she's the only one laughing.
For sure, I liken her enjoying tricking people to needing to feel right. While what she has encountered before makes it slightly more understandable, it certainly has lead to her being unnecesarily cruel. One hopes there is future character development as she realizes that not everyone and anything needs to be evaluated as she did in regards to those in her former sect.
 
I think part of her response is that his apparent behavior are antithical to how she views the world (though much of this is due to the inane situations he finds himself in). He may be genuinely a decent person but he did knock her out, kidnap her, and then ditch her with swords she can't actually sell.
I feel like the bit in the middle where Yonghao forgot he'd kidnapped Shanyi, leaving her with a broken leg while she nearly starved to death, probably contributed to her initial hostility.

Or for that matter, the fact that Shanyi clearly doesn't expect anyone to be trustworthy. She's learned to expect (almost) anyone she interacts with to try and exploit her, to squeeze as much out of her as they can while giving her the bare minimum in return. And from that perspective, Yonghao is terrifying. He has so much power over Shanyi, especially since the two of them are in the middle of the wilderness. If she angered him, didn't go along with his demands, he could kill her and nobody would know.

I also think Myrrn is slightly misunderstanding or misrepresenting the situation. Shanyi is hostile and cutthroat at first, but she does soften over time. She stops seeing him as a probable enemy who will exploit her however he wants once he realizes she's not a powerful spirit, and starts seeing him as a traveling companion, ally, friend. She just has a weird way of expressing it, partly because she's emotionally constipated and partly because she seems like the kind of person who expresses friendship through teasing and stuff.

I can understand why someone might interpret Shanyi's later behavior as a continuation of her initial animosity and not development towards something different, but I don't think that's accurate.
 
Chapter 33: Scribe The Stolen Lore Of Heavens
Qian Shanyi sliced off yet another tentacle of an enormous monster just a moment before it could batter her into mush, a creature of slime and shifting horror, and its blood and ichor bathed her from head to toe. Her heart beat rapidly in her chest. She had been fighting for what felt like hours, and she needed to find a way out now, or else she would soon be dead. She had to escape, she -

She frowned. This…Didn't make sense. How did she get here?

The monster swung at her again, and she dashed away, breaking out of the fight. They were inside of an enormous stone temple, walls lined with statues, and as her gaze swung over the hall, she felt a sense of unreality. There were stone benches down on the floor, but far too tall for normal people, six on the left and nine on the right, asymmetric and not even lined up in rows. As her eyes flickered over the lines, she saw three more benches appear on the left, their shapes shifting, blending, as her mind made them arrange into rows again…

"Oh," she said, her frown vanishing, "I am dreaming."

She fixed her gaze upon the monster, and guided her mind to relax, letting her concentration wander away. The monster shifted, and began dissolving, the temple around them following suit, turning into a cloud of vines, and from there into a windy forest of mushrooms and spiderwebs.

Back in the Golden Rabbit Bay, she once stumbled upon a book about lucid dreaming, and in her search for every possible cultivation advantage she could muster, spent a good three months practicing the techniques within when she went to sleep. Her hope was that it would allow her to cultivate in her sleep - that way, she could make up for the lack of support from her sect. Sadly, this was not to be. A cultivator could no more consciously control their spiritual energy in their sleep than a person could decide to get up and cook a meal - unless they were a sleepwalker, it was flat out impossible, and even if they were, what they did would be entirely unpredictable, under no conscious control.

In retrospect, even if she could have managed it, such an approach would have been flatly suicidal. Sleepwalkers hurt themselves all the time, and messing up the flow of spiritual energy within her body could have easily led to her overloading one of her dantians and blowing it up, and all the neighboring organs alongside it.

She supposed it made sense: if lucid dreaming could have been used for cultivation, the book would not have been left out in the open access section of their library, where even non-cultivators could read it. Still, she did end up picking up a couple tricks that made sleeping much more enjoyable. For one, dealing with nightmares became almost trivial.

Dreams had no true logic of their own, and could not be controlled, but there were ways to affect the events, ride the flow of associations where you wanted it to go. Trying to think of a topic - or actively trying to ignore one, which was much the same in a dream - would only rarely get you there directly. The trick was to not focus on any given thing too much - but to accept whatever the dream threw at you, give it some token attention, and then let it sink back into the flow, gently pushing the images in the desired direction.

Qian Shanyi made herself relax, and focused on her memories of the sunny beaches of the Golden Rabbit Bay. Instead, she ended up in a bowl of sand, horizon curling up above her, where the ocean flowed upwards into the sky, and the sun shone with a cold green light.

She settled down on the sand, this dream not even granting her a proper body, merely the sense of sight, and watched fishes drift upwards into the sky like birds migrating for winter.

Qian Shanyi woke up in her cabin on the Lunar Whisper, Wu Lanhua's personal yacht. The sun was only just starting to rise, its dim rays poking through the curtains, and she allowed herself a few minutes of lazing about amid the silk sheets of her bed.

Yesterday, she got Wu Lanhua to sign a contract with her, making her one of the two cooks on the yacht - that way, she would be paid a respectable five silver yuan per day for the duration of their travels. She would have to cook for the sailors, but compared to her workload at the ramen shop, this was nothing, and that left her plenty of time to do her own research.

She lifted her head and looked at the table, still covered in papers full of calculations of spiritual energy flows, as she tried to cut down the needle control technique from Three Obediences Four Virtues to something she could actually execute. She got through about a third of the linear algebra in the evening before she gave up and went to bed, her mind aching softly from the exertion. Every individual calculation was simple, but there was an absolute ton of them, and she had to pay complete attention to every single one, because even a single error could make the entire technique explode in her face as soon as she tried it.

She stretched her hands under the sheets, enjoying the soft feel of silk on her skin. She was not looking forward to continuing, but it had to be done. Worse still, she'd have to do this math twice, just to check her work.

Alright, enough laziness. Time to get to work.

She got up from the bed, tied a silk rope around her waist, circulated her thread control technique to hook the other end securely around the window's ledge, and dived down into the river below. The cold water shocked the last vestiges of sleep out of her system, and she spent some time swimming next to the yacht, as part of her daily exercise.

Even with her muscles enhanced by spiritual energy, she couldn't keep up with the ship's speed, and soon enough the rope stretched until she decided to pull herself back in. She climbed through the window, shook herself free from the water, dressed, and threw one last hateful glare at the desk full of math before leaving the cabin.

She'd get back to them eventually. Just as soon as she did an inventory of the ship's pantries, planned out the day's meals with the other chef, made breakfast for everyone…

Who knows, perhaps something else would come up.

Wu Lanhua didn't lie about her yacht's speed: even though they stopped in several towns on the way, where she had to handle some business of hers, they were still traveling a good deal faster than her original plan accounted for, and indeed faster than any other boat she could find. This left her with some time to go through the local libraries for pieces of knowledge while they were moored in port.

Her first priority was finding information about heavenly tribulations. In fact, every post office had just the book she needed, one she read many years ago and largely forgotten - a complete index of all known forms of heavenly tribulation - but of course she could not ask for it directly. It was commonly accepted that the heavens either could not read, or at least had significant trouble doing so - one of the many reasons they could not fully understand the world of cultivators - but they could hear, and so if she asked, out loud, for the book about heavenly tribulations she was sure that even the distant heavens would quickly wise up to her game, and break off the vow she made.

Second priority was general information about the heavens, which ran into much the same issue. For both of those, she would need to get into the library for an inconspicuous reason and be left alone to browse the stacks, where she could find the books she needed. That brought her to her third priority: information about luck, world fragments, or tracking methods, in case she would need something more on top of her vow to find Wang Yonghao. Asking about these topics should be safe, and also grant her the access she could use to research what she really wanted.

When she asked about luck at the local postal office, they directed her to the Scarlet River Dance sect, and she decided to follow their advice. This was not unusual: the book selection at any individual postal office was by necessity small, mostly focusing on topics of general interest. Sect libraries, on the other hand, tended to collect all sorts of rare and unusual tomes, and would generally allow outsiders to peruse those that contained no particular secrets, for a small price. Luminous Lotus Pavilion tended to get at least a couple visitors every day for that exact purpose.

Scarlet River Dance seemed less prepared to answer these sorts of requests - close to the frontier as it was, she supposed they got less scholarly traffic than a major city like the Golden Rabbit Bay. Instead of leading her to their outer sect library, they showed her to a small visitation room, and left her there to wait.

And wait…

And wait some more…

How long could finding a single book possibly take? She even told them the title. Did they not have a library index?

She was glad she brought her writing set with her to make notes, and spent the time working on the mathematics behind her needle control technique. Some parts of the problem could be split off from the larger whole, and thus could be made much easier to check without redoing thousands of equations.

Finally, almost an hour after she came here, the doors opened and let through the younger cultivator who initially greeted her, and an older one. Neither of them was dressed as a sect elder, but by how the younger man walked behind and bowed his head, she could tell that the older man had a greater position in the sect. Perhaps he was responsible for the library?

They also didn't bring any books.

"You asked for the Seventeen Flows of Luck? It is not available," the older cultivator told her, not even bothering to ask for her name or introduce himself. He had a haughty air about himself that immediately put her on edge.

"The postal office directed me here," she asked, raising an eyebrow. "Was it already loaned out?"

"No, it is here," he said, "but we cannot loan it out to a loose cultivator."

"A loan is not necessary - I would be fine to read it here," she said, gesturing to her writing set, "I could take notes."

"These are delicate books," the older man said, "we can't afford them to be damaged by careless handling."

"I have been trained in book handling techniques," she frowned, already seeing where this conversation was heading, "this isn't the first library I visit."

"Loose cultivators such as yourself could hardly be expected to be trained properly," he waved his hand dismissively, "perhaps it's good enough for the empire, but not for my library."

"This isn't the first sect library I visit either."

"I would like to see what sect that might have been."

"Are you accusing me of lying?" she asked, her voice growing cold. "I have dueled men for less in the past."

"I would never question the word of a… fellow honorable cultivator, of course," he said, not even looking at her. She saw his lips twitch in disdain at the words. "It is just that different sects have different standards, and we pride ourselves in ours."

Her implicit threat of the duel was more than a little hollow - she was only staying in town for a couple hours, and couldn't risk delaying her ship - but it had to be made, if for no other reason than to keep up appearances, lest they talk and rumors spread to other towns. A cultivator that was not willing to put their life on the line to defend their honor at the first slight had no honor at all.

It took her a good while to grasp why, for of course nobody bothered explaining the system, but forced as she was to look at it mostly from the outside, the patterns became clear over time.

Cultivators' honor grew out of a simple need to trust each other. When someone borrowed money from you, you needed to trust that they would return it. If you accepted a new cultivator into the sect, you needed to trust that they would not simply run off with all the sect secrets as soon as you let them enter the sect library. Even something as simple as hiring someone to fix your fence required a degree of trust.

Of course, sometimes, blind trust was not required: if you hired someone to kill a demon beast, and they came back with its head, you could know for sure that it died. But most of the time, things were not quite so convenient. Often enough, people disagreed about what happened, and there was no way for others to tell who was in the right.

So what did you do?

If someone came from a well-known sect or family, they could rely on their reputation, for others would trust them not to sabotage it with a simple lie. If someone was wealthy, they could stake their word on their wealth, and pay out handsomely if a lie was revealed. But what could someone stake if they had neither?

The only thing they could stake was their life.

If everyone knew that should someone challenge your word, you would risk your life and limb to fight them, then not only would they not accuse you over nothing - they could also trust you not to lie, for every lie risked your life, were someone willing to challenge it. That is what honor was, at the end of the day: the seal built out of blood. The word of an honorable cultivator could be trusted, but they could only remain honorable if they would put their life on the line every single time to defend it.

That, in turn, meant that if you could not - or would not - defend yourself, or even risk your life, you had no honor.

Hence: women, children, mortals and cowards.

Of course, nowadays a woman could run you through with a flying sword just as well as a man, but the perception stuck around, and that was the only thing that truly mattered. A challenge from a cultivator without any honor could, of course, be safely refused, such a refusal not bringing shame in the eyes of others.

If you had honor, you had to guard it jealously, for if you ever lost it, it was almost impossible to claw it back.

If you never had any in the first place…

Even if she challenged him, and he agreed, and she won, his sect might simply decide to retaliate against her anyways - and of course she would not be seeing the books she needed.

"Is there anything I could do to convince you otherwise?" she said. "Perhaps I could put some money in an imperial escrow, in case you deem the book too damaged by my hands?"

"Hmm," he said, "perhaps an escrow of two hundred spirit stones would be enough."

"Two hundred spirit stones?!" She scowled. "This is ridiculous. The book itself could not cost even a tenth of that."

"The price is final, and standard for our library." He shrugged. His eyes bore into her, daring her to disagree.

Bastard.

She quickly gathered her things, and got up from her seat.

"Thank you for your time," she said neutrally, and headed out the doors. She would just have to try in the next town over. There was bound to be a sect that was more cooperative - the only question was if she could find one before she caught up with Wang Yonghao, because by then it would be a little too late.

She spent the rest of her time ashore in the postal office library, trying to do the best she could with the meager book selection. She found the aptly named Comprehensive Tribulation Index, and copied down the relevant sections, which took up most of her time.

If she was to survive her tribulation, the first step was knowing which of about a hundred different tribulation forms she would have to face. This was, of course, a matter of guesswork, but the heavens tended to favor some forms over the others. The most common of them was also the most straightforward - a bolt of tribulation lightning from the skies straight at your head. In fact, every form of tribulation started out with three strikes of tribulation lightning - a little warning from the heavens, just to make sure you were paying attention.

Dealing with the lightning was hard, but manageable - with a strong enough body, spiritual shield, and some talisman formations a prepared cultivator could pass through it without too much trouble - but she very much doubted her tribulation would take this simple form. If her suspicions were correct, and the heavens were paying personal attention to Wang Yonghao, then by rebuffing them she would be getting a tribulation perfectly tailored to kill her dead. If she was to survive it, she had to guess which tribulation form they would pick based on what they knew of her, and then prepare her countermeasures without the heavens cottoning on to her schemes.

It was, in other words, a very traditional gamble, only played with the world as the board and her life at stake.

Thankfully, she was not playing entirely blind. The vow in her mind felt different from one hour to another, angrier when their boat stopped in a town, and settling down when they were making progress down the river again - it wanted her to find Wang Yonghao, and made this desire known. Through this vow, she could have some handle on the heaven's opinion of her actions.

After she returned to the boat with her notes in hand, she once again traced Wang Yonghao's position from the safety of her cabin. He didn't stay in the same city: instead, he was moving, but they were still gaining up on him.

The only question was if they were closing the distance fast enough, or too fast by far. If she caught up with him before she was ready to face her tribulation, she would die, but if she took too long, then the heavens would figure out her lies, send the tribulation down while she slept, and she would still die.

They soon set off, and she rested on the ship's bow, waxing river wind passing through her hair like the hands of a lover, making her plans.

How could she help Yonghao break his curse of luck, if she couldn't even be sure she would be alive by the end of the month?

Was she heading to her death, or to her ascension?

There was only a razor-sharp line between the two, and human feet bled when one walked on razors.

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