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Also, really nice to see our knock off effects from Temperance with those trolls.
I was worried they'd only be used on the defense.
I was worried they'd only be used on the defense.
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Rags to Ithilmar. The Quest of an Asur Commoner.
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Something to keep in mind is that Skall also subjugated the Sarls. So if he's holed up in his personal bastion, that might not be solely because of Bjornling concerns but also because he needs to keep his vassals in check. Plus the Dawi-Zharr aren't cheap, so he may need to work out alternative means of payment besides Bjornling plunder.
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[X] Plan Windup for a Hammer Blow
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[X] Let the Hammer Fall
-[X]Have Khayran remain at the sanctum in Olricstaat:
-[X] Wrath and ruin:
-[X]- In the name of Vaul:
-[X]Have Khayran remain at the sanctum in Olricstaat:
-[X] Wrath and ruin:
-[X]- In the name of Vaul:
[X] Plan Windup for a Hammer Blow
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I'm curious: anyone else think Galrauch when they read this?
Like obviously that isn't gonna happen for…a very long while, to say the least. But still, that's a thought that was evoked.
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For those new or who have forgotten, a reminder of what Luthien (almost) looks like. Just imagine a black glowing veil over her form.
"My god knows no fear or mercy, only hunger eternal!"
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It would be sweet... but after so many thousands of years, I doubt anything remains of Galrauch's proud spirit anymore. The only mercy he can be given now is death.
She'd be the best Handmaiden.
Also, as a side note, if we do well enough in stopping the invasion here and even possibly reverse it to Ironhill...well this will be the SECOND bit of antics that a certain bloodthirster had in the works that we've spited.
Going to be fun to see his reaction to Luthien arriving just in the nick of time to stop all his plans and those of the nurgle thing too.
I keep telling people, Skulex.
Imagine earning HIS approval and getting the chance to make armor for HIM.
Oh that would be a sight to see.
Going to be fun to see his reaction to Luthien arriving just in the nick of time to stop all his plans and those of the nurgle thing too.
I keep telling people, Skulex.
Imagine earning HIS approval and getting the chance to make armor for HIM.
Oh that would be a sight to see.
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But, the army books have his spirit still struggling, and they're meant to work into the modern day of the 2500s.
The question is then: Would he survive being purged and could luthien and whomever was helping her be able to prevent him from killing them while they do it?
If we purify him but it causes him to die because the chaos bits flake off and enough of that does to kill him...then it's still the same thing as giving him a death, just a longer drawn out one.
If we purify him but it causes him to die because the chaos bits flake off and enough of that does to kill him...then it's still the same thing as giving him a death, just a longer drawn out one.
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Really? I didn't remember there being any hesitation to his slaughter of Karak Vlag or of Languerre du Lac's hometown.
I'm guessing it's struggling in the recesses of his mind/spirit or something like that. Enough left to torture through seeing how his possessed body is being used but not enough to DO anything. That tracks for something chaos would do.
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Yeah, but he still has the Spirit of Galrauch rule representing the, well, spirit of Galrauch.
And he showed it when Sigvald came for him:
I mean, the idea is enticing, just don't see why he'd be interested in allowing himself to be impressed someone did that. Non-Ulthuani and non-Cathayan dragons seem to be fairy stereotypical in just wanting to live, enrich themselves, and be as destructive kings of their territories.
Is there something about his character in the Warhammer rule book story bits I have forgotten that lends itself to that?
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Partly his hatred of Chaos, partly that Luthien can make him things that REALLY enrich himself, and that he could possibly get simple tribute from the bjornlings for as long as their kingdom lasts. These are all guesses as we'd need to find him, court him, and see what his price is.
Empowering an active greedy emperor dragon in NORSCA seems like the last thing Luthien wants to do, the elf CIA will tolerate, or our Norse dawi friends (who I imagine have grudges with Skulex) will appreciate.
Why empower a being we can't ensure won't harm and extort us, Asur, Norse dawi, and most importantly the Bjornlings?
Why empower a being we can't ensure won't harm and extort us, Asur, Norse dawi, and most importantly the Bjornlings?
Do they have grudges with him? Confirmed? Do we have confirmation that he will act maliciously or take more than can be borne?
Empowering Skulex, as far as the information we have goes, will not be antithetical to luthien or the finubar wetworks team.
Also, with dragons, once they make an agreement, they tend to stick with it.
Regular tribute that he doesnt HAVE to extort serves his 'greed' better than otherwise.
Empowering Skulex, as far as the information we have goes, will not be antithetical to luthien or the finubar wetworks team.
Also, with dragons, once they make an agreement, they tend to stick with it.
Regular tribute that he doesnt HAVE to extort serves his 'greed' better than otherwise.
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I stand corrected.
I guess the real difference is whether or not it ensures Galrauch will be free of his curse in death. If he dies normally, Tzeentch may get his soul, but if he dies after being rid of the Lord of Change he had been bound to, his soul may be free. Which in and of itself would be worth it. One less threat to the civilized world and we put the kin of Aenarion's mighty companion to rest.
If Luthien manages to actually save Galrauch then that's a true feat of legend right there. Removing Chaos from the first and mightiest of all Chaos Dragons is the sort of thing that gets all of Caledor singing your praises.
I imagine the bigger challenge will be getting him to trust that the agreement won't be broken. Norsca has seen many would-be civilizations rise and fall, and Skulex was present to see most of them and likely played a part in the destruction of a few. He may not trust that these feeble mortals will be capable of not reverting to Chaos worship in the time of one of his naps.
That's not to say he wouldn't have anything to benefit from a tithe of protection. The "King of Norsca" Ulfar is going to be seeing all manner of Ulthuani, Dawi, Tilean, Kislevite, etc. goods flow through his realm, after all, of which even a small portion would be a massive boon to Skulex's horde. It's just that he'd need a damn good reason to give it a try.
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This is true and why I think it'll be so hard, it's not JUST a chaos dragon, it's the first and a tzeentchian one at that. I have no doubt that in addition to chaos fuckery in general there's going to be nasty magics too.
Assuming they believe it although i imagine that if Luthien did this with help acquired through the Finubar wetworks squad that she'd have backing on it really happening.
This is valid and would definitely something that would need careful handling as well as I think more victories on the Bjornling side. He'd likely need to see proof that the Bjornlings can not only win the war, but survive Fimbulvetr as well. But that again assumes we can find him IC and that he'll be open to it at all.
At the very least the surety that if the chaos tribes win again the land will be nigh unto the chaos wastes will likely be a point in the Bjornlings' favor. If they fall later then at least it's the status quo that he can ride through as he always has, just with a bigger horde. If they don't, regular tribute.
Indeed, it's why I think "Common cause against chaos" would be a big draw to an extent, as well as Luthien being able to not only make him things to enrich his hoard, but such things that will do so exponentially through masterworks. Might well need to make him a full set of armor for him to show off or something like that. Depends on what he wants and dice most likely.