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I HAVE A QUESTION! What does yandere actually translate to and if a japanese speaker heard it for the first time with out context would they be able to figure out what it meant?
 
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I HAVE A QUESTION! What does yandere actually translate to and if a japanese speaker heard it for the first time with out context would they be able to figure out what it meant?
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From Wikitionary:
From Japanese ヤンデレ, a portmanteau of 病んでる (yanderu, "to be sick", contraction of 病んでいる (yandeiru), progressive tense of 病む (yamu)) and デレデレ (deredere, "infatuated, lovestruck").[1]​ Developed on the model of tsundere ("being cold and even hostile towards another person before gradually showing a warm and caring side over time").

So it'd probably be hard but not impossible to work out the meaning if you weren't familiar with the whole family of deres.
 
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Ryubey the exposition fairy Pt. 2
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    • "Wait." You say, confusion edging into your voice. "How am I supposed to figure out which girl has suffered the most?"

    "Ask them. Get their life stories." Ryubey replies like it's the most obvious thing in the world. "Duh."

    "Not what I meant." You resist the urge to shoot him. He may be annoying but he's still the best source of information you have. Also, you don't have your gun anymore. Maybe you should fix that. "What I was trying to ask is how am I supposed to figure out if one girl has suffered more than another. How can I tell if a girl who's starving is worse off than a girl that's got her arm cut off or something?"

    "I dunno." Ryubey says happily. You're not sure why he's happy about the fact that he doesn't actually know how to find the Devil. Maybe he just enjoys making your life harder. "Seriously, you bring up a fair point. Despair is subjective and there's no easy way to measure that. It's not like I can just hand you a suffering detector that goes ding where there's sads. But I can almost guarantee you that the pain that this girl has gone though will be past the point of tragedy and will be entering the realm of ridiculousness. Basically, you'll know it when you see it."

    That wasn't as helpful as you might have liked. Switching gears for a moment you ask something that you just came up with. "How did you manage to get us back through two universal resets? Didn't you say that was impossible?"

    "Oh yeah. I did say that, didn't I." Ryubey's back to sounding smug. "Well without going into the technical details of the magical equations used, it was because I had memories of this universe. Admittedly those memories are from millions of years ago but after I got us to this universe it was a simple thing to find the right time, even if I don't have any personal memories of this universe. The Devil can travel back to this universe as well because she also has memories of this universe. Even if there was another being in that universe that was powerful enough to travel back here they wouldn't be able to because they wouldn't even know this universe ever existed."

    Interesting. Not really important to your goal but still interesting. Another question comes to you. "How did you steal the Devil's potential? Wasn't she using it?"

    Ryubey shrugs again. "I'll admit, it was a little like stealing someone's pants while they were wearing them but that just goes to show just how obsessed with your sister she is."

    There's something that's been bothering you for a while now so that becomes your next question. "What do you mean when you 'weren't active'?"

    Ryubey breathes out a long sigh. "Okay then, time for a history lesson. Oh and like the explanation of how you can find the Devil this is going to take a bit so I'll say it again, you might what to sit down."

    You continue to stand, waiting for him to start his explanation.

    Ryubey grins at you. "You know you don't have to act so tough you know. You should relax a little." You stay where you are. Ryubey shrugs. "Whatever. Before I can answer your question you need to know about the Incubators and what they are. The Incubators are a race of aliens that differ from humans in two important aspects. The first is that, be default, they're emotionless. Possessing any kind of emotions at all is considered a form of insanity among them. The second is that they're telepathic, able to speak directly mind-to-mind. It's how I'm talking to you right now.

    "Thanks to these two things the way the Incubators work as a race is much different than humanity. The Incubators work as a hive mind where each Incubator is simply another cog in the machine of their society, completely lacking any sort of individuality. This has some advantages such as being able to calculate enormous amounts of data by working together and being able to share information instantly to any Incubator that needs it. That also makes them easily replaceable. If the Incubator working with Mami were to die a new one could take it's place without her noticing. They also make decisions by consensus.

    "However, there are also disadvantages. The big one is that they aren't very creative. Even if one of the Incubators came up with a revolutionary new idea, which is unlikely, the fact that they work by consensus means that the rest of the Incubators would shoot that idea down. Under normal circumstances that's not a problem they have tons of options available to them already but the Incubators were smart enough to realize that if they ever came across a problem they had no idea what to do with then the creativity they lacked would be exactly what they needed. Which is were I come in.

    "I was a normal Incubator before I was chosen to become the Incubator's emergency failsafe. I was infected with emotions, granting me individuality and creativity, before getting sealed in a pocket universe so that I couldn't damage the hive mind. That was millions of years ago. I would only be activated, that is to say set free from the pocket universe, if the there was a threat to the entire Incubator race. When the Devil brainwashed all the Incubators that counted as a that threat and I was automatically released."

    To be honest most of Ryubey's story passed right over your head but you think you got the gist of it. Ryubey's an Incubator with emotions that was made to protect other Incubators. Seems simple enough. You move back to more relevant topics with your next question. "Do you know what my abilities are, exactly?"

    "No." Ryubey's answer is immediate and abrupt. "I already told you, your magic is yours. I can't tell you what you can do with it. You need to figure it out yourself."

    "Fine." You pause a moment before coming up with your next question. "So, if I don't need Grief Seeds does that mean my magic is unlimited."

    Ryubey thinks for a moment before answering. "That depends on what you mean by unlimited. If you're wondering if you'll ever run out of magic the answer is no. Well, technically you could but the amount of magic you have is so big you might as well have an unlimited amount. Also, magic regenerates overtime so unless you blow all your magic at the same time you'll never be without and even if you do you just need to wait a while for your pool to refill a little before using it again.

    "However you do have some limits on your magic. When I was setting up your magical systems I rigged up a series of checks and balances to control the regulation of your magic, similar to how a human body can technically left a couple of tons for a few seconds but is prevented from doing so under normal circumstances to keep it from hurting itself. I did that so that you wouldn't accidentally blow up half the town. Basically you'll always have the amount of magic you need available to you."

    That's exactly not what you wanted to hear. If Ryubey's right then you'll never have any problems with magic but you don't like the idea of him putting limits on what you can do. Still, there isn't a point in getting angry about it. Besides you still have more questions. "Do you know why the Devil is obsessed with my sister?"

    "Nope!" Ryubey says cheerfully.

    Yeah, you weren't really expecting him to know that. "What are you going to do after I kill the Devil?"

    "I dunno." Ryubey says with a smile. "Haven't really thought about it. I'm still just enjoying the fact that after millions of years I'm free once again."

    You suppose that's fair. You don't know what you're going to do after you kill the Devil either. A thought occurs to you. "Do you have some way of confirming if I've found the right person before I kill them? Because if I'm wrong and kill the wrong person that'll probably alter the Devil's memories right?"

    Ryubey nods. "You're right, there is a risk that you'll get it wrong. Unfortunately it's a risk you'll have to take because as I said before I don't have a despair detector or something like that."

    That isn't very comforting. Guess you should keep from killing anyone until you're absolutely sure you've got the right one. "Any other advice on how to avoid notice?"

    "Sure. As I said if you kill the wrong person then the Devil will likely respond. You should be able to get away with small changes to her memories but someone being dead when they're supposed to be alive is the sort of thing she'll have to notice." Ryubey responds. "Other than that, I'm not sure how useful this will be but you should be able to suppress you're magical signature so that you can't be detected by magical senses. It might be difficult though."

    See, now that's some useful info. If you had known that you could hid your magical signature you'd have been able to go with Madoka without worrying that you might attract magic sensing beings to her. On that note… "Wait, if the Devil is obsessed with my Sister that must mean that it's someone she already knows, right?"

    Ryubey shakes his head "Not necessarily. Hell, the Devil might not even be a Magical Girl yet. It could be that she becomes a Magical Girl and meets you sister sometime in the next month."

    Damn, you were hopping that you'd be able to cut down the amount of suspects to those that already know Madoka before you got here. Oh well, Next question. "So what exactly do the Incubators do? Do you share the same goal as them?

    "Seriously, what is with these questions?" Ryubey shouts. "They're all over the place! Why didn't you ask about the Incubators after I told you about the Incubators? Are incapable of maintaining a single train of thought or something?"

    Ryubey stops yelling for a moment and you speak again. "So are you going to answer my question?"

    "Grrrrrrraaaaaah" Ryubey growls in frustration. "The Incubators are trying to stop entropy. That means they need a source of free energy. By making contracts with girls they can convert their emotional energy into the energy they need to stop entropy. The get the biggest boosts of energy when a girl first becomes a Magical Girl and when a Magical Girl becomes a witch. And no, I don't share the goals of the Incubators. They locked me in a pocket universe for millions of years. Do you know how boring that it? They can all go rot in hell for all I care. Does that answer your question?"

    "No." You have no idea what entropy is or why anyone would want to stop it.

    "Too bad, I don't care. You've pissed me off so you only get one more question. Make it a good one."

    You only had one question left so that works out fine. "What happens to me after I kill the Devil? Will I get sent back to the future?"

    "Not unless you want to." Ryubey answers. "When I took you traveling through time I didn't just push you back through time, I removed you from it. Time no longer works the same for you. It's how I managed to have there be two yous existing at the same time and still avoid a paradox. So you don't have to worry about getting instantly sent back to the future or fading from existence. Although I suppose if you manage to save the universe from death by yandere I'll owe you one so if you wanted to time travel or something I suppose I could swing that for you.

    "Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go troll Kyubey as a way to relax. If you need me or have more questions you can call me mentally later. See ya." Ryubey then turns around and hops out the window. You're not sure how he phased through the glass but you guess it's magic.

    You wish he'd stuck around for one last question. You'd have asked him what a yandere is.

    No matter. It's getting late and you know how important it is you get a good night's sleep. You lay down on the bed and are shocked by how soft it is. You spend several minutes trying to get used to it but eventually you get used to it enough to be comfortable. You relax and settle down to sleep

    -

    You can't sleep. You've been lying on the bed for a very long time. It's now the middle of the night and nothing you do gets you any closer to actually sleeping. You tried every position on the bed you can think of and even tried the floor. It doesn't matter. You just aren't tired.

    It isn't like you're overflowing with energy or something. It's just that you're awake and unlikely to get tired anytime soon. You guess it's another benefit of magic. Still, despite how convenient it is to not need to sleep, not to mention how good it is not to have to worry about getting ambushed while sleeping, you still need something to do. You're not going to waste the night just sitting around. You'd go insane from the boredom.

    Pick one!
    [] Try to practice sensing magic.
    [] Try to practice suppressing your magic.
    [] Sneak out the window into the city.
    -[] Find someplace to actually practice your magic
    -[] Hunt a Witch
    -[] Check on Madoka
    -[] Just explore the city
    -[] Find the Magical Girl you sense.

    I'm not satisfied with the explanation of Ryubey's backstory and my version of the Incubators. It get's the point across but it feels like it could be better.

    The Incubators do not intentionally lie.
     
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    • The backstory was sufficient, to me. He was placed in a pocket dimension so he managed to dodge the reality warpans. Simple enough.

    [x] Try to practice sensing magic.
    [x] Try to practice suppressing your magic.
    [x] Sneak out the window into the city.
    -[x] Find someplace to actually practice your magic
    -[x] Find the Magical Girl you sense.
     
    I wonder who the devil actually is... Because technically we don't actually know it's Homura. It could be an AU.

    It could be Mami, for all we know. Or Kyoko... *gasp* It might even be Madoka!
     
    AuraTwilight said:
    The backstory was sufficient, to me. He was placed in a pocket dimension so he managed to dodge the reality warpans. Simple enough.
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    The story was fine, after all I came up with it. I just think it could have been better written and I'm not sure if that's actually true or if I'm suffering from typical author self-doubt.
     
    [X] AuraTwilight

    Though I say Takkun should leave behind a note for Mami in case she wakes up or we take all the night. We don't want her to distrust of us.
     
    AuraTwilight said:
    The backstory was sufficient, to me. He was placed in a pocket dimension so he managed to dodge the reality warpans. Simple enough.

    [x] Try to practice sensing magic.
    [x] Try to practice suppressing your magic.
    [x] Sneak out the window into the city.
    -[x] Find someplace to actually practice your magic
    -[x] Find the Magical Girl you sense.
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    Oh, and I probably should have said in the update but this is a pick one Vote.
     
    [x] Try to practice sensing magic.

    Let's not confront Homura yet, the only MG currently active in Mitakihara that isn't Mami since we won't get anything substantial from it.

    By practicing our Magic Radar, we should be able to pinpoint the Homu next time she stalks us and Madoka, and then we can confront her. Maybe we'll even figure out her brand of magic by its taste if we get good enough.
     
    Resist shinies, resist shinies...

    [X] Find the Magical Girl you sense.

    can't resist.
     
    [x] Try to practice sensing magic.

    This is a good first step - we don't want to be walking around blind. Right now, we need to not attract attention. Attracting attention could make changes, and while small changes are OK, enough of them could risk the Devil figuring out what we're up to. Sensing magic to avoid Magical Girls when we don't want to run into them, and hiding our own magical energy so they don't know what we are seem to both be practical towards trying out this "subtlety" thing.
     
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