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Ask Maiko for information:
[X] An overview of the group's threat in combat and anything Maiko has on their neighbors. You're pretty sure you're meeting someone to talk about the group's social dynamics, so let that conversation happen naturally.

Go alone or with allies?
[X] Ask Maiko to tag along at a distance, like usual.

How to approach the Nerima girl?
[X] With love and justice! Play up the 'classic magical girl' routine; they already know how powerful you can be.
 
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So I need to refresh my memory of who all evrryone is, but oh dear gods have I missed this

[X] An overview of the group members, their personalities, and whatever Maiko has on their internal dynamics. Being well-informed is one thing, being a stalker is another.
[X] Ask Maiko to tag along at a distance, like usual.
[X] With flair and force--try not to threaten her directly, but present yourself as the combat powerhouse you are.
 
[X] Concentrate on the girl you're meeting, keep working on that reputation of being impossibly well-informed
[X] Ask Maiko to tag along at a distance, like usual.
[X] With love and justice! Play up the 'classic magical girl' routine; they already know how powerful you can be.

Yui's imagination is still in HD at least :)
 
@Echo, it's a little weird that we're deciding how to approach the meeting before getting briefed on what it's about if Maiko thinks she knows; "I'm sorry but she's not into girls, don't give her more metal hearts with your phone number" obviously demands a different attitude from "we can't keep Chizuka alive, please take her and care for her" which demands a still different attitude from "we're all going to bloody battle soon and Chizuka is our most aggressive fighter, please fight on our side in a war to save her since you clearly like her". Is there some reason we can't get that information over the next thirty seconds in-character and then decide on our social ploys?


Assuming that's impossible...

If Maiko thinks she knows what this is about and knows everything listed, I'm not inclined to play guessing games with what information is most important. She knows politics and what we're trying to achieve here; just ask her to tell us what's most relevant and she can make that call.

Our overall objectives are to 1) fend off hostility and 2) poach likely recruits. Our attitude during our previous meeting with the Nerima crew was to be cheerful and friendly- aggressively so- but in a way that displayed uncompromising strength to the best of our ability to do so. That was a fairly well-chosen attitude and it's usually best for diplomatic relations in general to remain consistent- people love consistency in their neighbors because unpredictability means they might attack.

Of the default options, "flair and force" seems the most aligned with the general principle of "keep attitude consistent". The others don't really fit; I don't think we want to ever make a habit of coming to meetings in our vulnerable untransformed form and we were being serious rather than hamming it up last time; we might communicate a desire for love and justice by giving out metal hearts with our phone number and demanding that they not smash buildings or hurt civilians, but we let our actions speak of our dedication instead of playing to cliches. That's the right move for someone demanding respect from veterans; anyone who doesn't visibly have steel in their character is easily brushed off as a naive girl likely to witch out before long.

It's not a good idea to go places completely alone, so we need to bring at least one person. When considering our backup options, please remember that Minami's time is not currently unallocated:
"Oh yeah, I meant to ask," Minami says a bit later. "Any immediate assignments for me, commander?"

"Hm. You should continue investigating the persons of interest located in Yoshikawa and Kawaguchi wards. If possible, establish and confirm their identities and then engage Class 2 surveillance protocols," you say. "Uh, that means use your magic spy satellite."

Minami grins. "I see. Invisible spy-sat, got it."

"If you can find their names tonight and can spy on them from your apartment or at school that'd be convenient," you say.

"Oh. I'm... not sure if my spy satellite can reach that far, now that you mention it," Minami says.

"If you can't, then we'll look into it tomorrow, I guess? ...ugh, tomorrow this, tomorrow that. We have so much stuff to do," you grumble. "So much, Maiko. Like, imagine lots of stuff and that's almost as much as we have to do, except with more stuff on top of that. So much stuff, like, wow."
We haven't had word of successful investigation from Minami yet, so it's a fairly safe bet that she hasn't looked in on those two girls and confirmed their identities and magical girl status. If we bring her with us then that investigation will simply not get done, which leaves it on our to-do list. We can't afford to let them keep not getting investigated, so Minami being part of this meeting is out. Hopefully we'll be able to meet up with her later in the evening when we're done with our meeting and she's done with her investigation so that we can introduce her to Team Rio.

Maiko is a good choice for backup because she's always a good choice for doing almost anything and she can feed us the information that we didn't get on the way during our conversation, should it be relevant. That said, she doesn't need to be our only backup.

I'm thinking that if Koharu isn't otherwise occupied (pretty sure she's ungrounded by now) and has an interest in participating, we call her in. Koharu's house and school are generally between Yui's school and the southern border (see map) so she's fairly conveniently positioned unless I've misunderstood the meeting location; additionally, we need to start working with her where possible so that she feels like we're more of a team instead of a remote figure giving orders. She's currently working closely with Himari, who is a morale case (in that she doesn't actually support our leadership or think well of us, she just supports Maiko who supports us), and if Koharu spends a lot of time with Himari and very little with us she's likely to start picking up anti-Yui opinions. We can't afford that and demonstrating our leadership and compassion in a diplomatic setting probably won't hurt.

Of course, depending upon what the girl calling us wants, her presence may not be appropriate. It has some risks as well- we can't control Koharu and don't know what she'll do; we might end up needing Maiko to actively run interference with Himari instead of supporting us if Himari shows up alongside her; Koharu's wish was all about paying attention to her and she might not be happy to play second fiddle and let us take the lead. While I think it's on balance worth a shot, I'm interested in hearing others' opinions on the matter.



So my vote looks something like this for now, though it may change if more information becomes available:

[x] Have Maiko start with whatever she believes is the most relevant to the upcoming meeting. She should have a handle on what information best supports your objectives.
[x] Ask Maiko to tag along at a distance, like usual.
[x] Ask Koharu if she has an interest in accompanying you (openly) to a hopefully-rewarding diplomatic meeting.
[x] With flair and force--try not to threaten her directly, but present yourself as the combat powerhouse you are.
 
With flair and force--try not to threaten her directly, but present yourself as the combat powerhouse you are.
Being consistent is a good point, but I don't like this wording. "Try not to threaten her directly" implies "being borderline threatening", which is a) not going to mark us as a stable long-term neighbour, b) may be seen as trying too much, i. e. "she is just trying to intimidate us with the only thing she is good at".
We already made our combat prowess explicit, which is good, but I don't think we want them to think we're just a combat monster. If resources and abilities at our disposal remain unclear and vaguely-universal with no clear borders, that would be much more effective.

Rather, what about something like this?:

[] With confidence and power — try to keep your demeanour similar to yesterday's, but make sure to subtly or not-so-subtly hint that your group has access to numerous resources and wildly different abilities. Try to keep it natural, don't go out of your way to show off or brag.



Hmm. A new approach to long-term survival occurred to me. Should we pretend to be the ones who killed Momoko? By "we" I mean "the magical girls that currently control Nagamioka", not just Yui. Bear with me here.

The motivations of half-of-Japan's-worth of magical girls invading us were stated to be, primarily, (1) to acquire new territory, and (2) to figuratively desecrate Momoko's grave.

If we make it seem that the desecration is already done — make claims that we hate Momoko and everything she stood for, start rumours about how we destroyed her house, say that we're using her skull as a cup, whatever — it should noticeably thin the ranks of Group 2, or at least make them way less enthusiastic about the endeavour. Even 20% decrease should worth it.

Group 1 is harder to deal with, but distance plays a major role here. There's nothing we could do about our immediate neighbours, who have plenty of opportunities to check rumours for truthfulness. Still, I'm gathering that magical girls are currently moving here from relatively distant places too, thinking that there's a large power vacuum. If we make it seem less large, by proactively and deliberately hyping our overpoweredness up, at least some of them should reconsider. The implication that we killed Momoko and therefore are even more powerful than her should help us in this, too.

Obviously this idea has several downsides. Maiko would probably be uncomfortable with this, Himari would hate it, Mami (a possible ally) may not like it, it risks drawing attention of Momoko's real killers, etc.

Still, I think it's worth considering.
 
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Great to see this is back, but I'm probably going You need to reread to relaern all the characters.

[X] Concentrate on the girl you're meeting, keep working on that reputation of being impossibly well-informed
[X] With love and justice! Play up the 'classic magical girl' routine; they already know how powerful you can be.
 
If we make it seem that the desecration is already done — make claims that we hate Momoko and everything she stood for, start rumours about how we destroyed her house, say that we're using her skull as a cup, whatever — it should noticeably thin the ranks of Group 2, or at least make them way less enthusiastic about the endeavour. Even 20% decrease should worth it.

Yyyyeah, given the way we've behaved, nobody who's actually heard about us will believe that except for people looking for an excuse not to go anyway... and our sheer power is enough of an excuse for those people. Plus, it'd wear on Yui's mental state, I think, having to pretend to have killed someone.

Regarding the vote itself, I like parts of @DarkLight140 's vote and parts of @Noumero 's vote, so I'm smooshing them together with a little caveat of my own: since Maiko has a good idea of what we're expecting from this meeting, I'm adding that Maiko has veto power if she knows something that would indicate that bringing Koharu is a bad idea.

[x] Have Maiko start with whatever she believes is the most relevant to the upcoming meeting. She should have a handle on what information best supports your objectives.

[x] Ask Maiko to tag along at a distance, like usual.

[x] With confidence and power — try to keep your demeanour similar to yesterday's, but make sure to subtly or not-so-subtly hint that your group has access to numerous resources and wildly different abilities. Try to keep it natural, don't go out of your way to show off or brag.
 
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[x] Have Maiko start with whatever she believes is the most relevant to the upcoming meeting. She should have a handle on what information best supports your objectives.
[x] Ask Maiko to tag along at a distance, like usual.
[x] Ask Koharu if she has an interest in accompanying you (openly) to a hopefully-rewarding diplomatic meeting.
-[x] Run this by Maiko first to make sure personalities won't clash or anything.
[x] With flair and force--try not to threaten her directly, but present yourself as the combat powerhouse you are.
 
@Echo, it's a little weird that we're deciding how to approach the meeting before getting briefed on what it's about if Maiko thinks she knows; "I'm sorry but she's not into girls, don't give her more metal hearts with your phone number" obviously demands a different attitude from "we can't keep Chizuka alive, please take her and care for her" which demands a still different attitude from "we're all going to bloody battle soon and Chizuka is our most aggressive fighter, please fight on our side in a war to save her since you clearly like her". Is there some reason we can't get that information over the next thirty seconds in-character and then decide on our social ploys?

I'll be honest, the main reason is that I realized I didn't have all the details on the group planned out in advance, it was getting late, and I really wanted to post the update. That said, the option to have Yui avoid advance knowledge to let the conversation with the Nerima girl happen naturally vs. seeming all-knowing is something I would have wanted to include either way.

For what it's worth, the "are you flirting with Chizuka" thing is only going to come up as a joke at best, not something taken seriously. Also, if you asked Maiko for the most condensed summary of the situation she can give, her reply would be something like "*pained sigh* Complicated."

If Maiko thinks she knows what this is about and knows everything listed, I'm not inclined to play guessing games with what information is most important. She knows politics and what we're trying to achieve here; just ask her to tell us what's most relevant and she can make that call.

Maiko will definitely tell you that the external threats Chizuka mentioned are real, but that internal conflicts are the more pressing concern. Also, if you take Maiko along with she can feed info to you during the meeting as well, which helps.

We haven't had word of successful investigation from Minami yet, so it's a fairly safe bet that she hasn't looked in on those two girls and confirmed their identities and magical girl status. If we bring her with us then that investigation will simply not get done, which leaves it on our to-do list.

She has their names as of last night, but they're out of spysat range. She could possibly check one of the two from the Nerima border, but if you want her to confirm meguca status for both ASAP then yeah, she needs to head east.

I'm thinking that if Koharu isn't otherwise occupied (pretty sure she's ungrounded by now) and has an interest in participating, we call her in.

Do note that Koharu previously said she'd be available after school on Monday and Wednesday for the meeting you had at Momoko's house yesterday. She didn't specify why she wasn't otherwise available, but it's a reasonable assumption that she has other obligations. Remember Hitomi having to go do Fancy Rich Girl Activities while Sayaka and Madoka went to hang out together?

She's currently working closely with Himari, who is a morale case (in that she doesn't actually support our leadership or think well of us, she just supports Maiko who supports us), and if Koharu spends a lot of time with Himari and very little with us she's likely to start picking up anti-Yui opinions.

To be fair, Yui doesn't have any reason to think Himari dislikes her. Himari seems like she'd be delighted to have Yui as a neighbor or teammate. It's only the question of leadership that's the issue, and if Himari was petty enough to sabotage your position outright Maiko would probably speak up about it.

The main concern with Himari is the old "never give orders you know won't be obeyed" principle--Yui isn't sure how much control she actually has here.

Being consistent is a good point, but I don't like this wording. "Try not to threaten her directly" implies "being borderline threatening", which is a) not going to mark us as a stable long-term neighbour, b) may be seen as trying too much, i. e. "she is just trying to intimidate us with the only thing she is good at".

To clarify, for that option you'd probably end up doing the "high-velocity dynamic entry" thing and otherwise making overt displays of magic and strength, but absolutely not pulling out your wand or doing anything directed at the other girl specifically.
 
I only found this quest during this last big pause, so I'm glad to see it's not dead. Out of the many PMMM quests this has one of my favourite stories - Yui is just so endearing as a protagonist and the other characters complement nicely, too.

I also remember seeing an updated Dramatis Personae in this thread somewhere, that also had pictures of the main cast, but it doesn't seem to be bookmarked (which does disservice to the quality of the fan art, I think).

Could someone maybe, who remembers where it is, please point me to it?
 
I only found this quest during this last big pause, so I'm glad to see it's not dead. Out of the many PMMM quests this has one of my favourite stories - Yui is just so endearing as a protagonist and the other characters complement nicely, too.

I also remember seeing an updated Dramatis Personae in this thread somewhere, that also had pictures of the main cast, but it doesn't seem to be bookmarked (which does disservice to the quality of the fan art, I think).

Could someone maybe, who remembers where it is, please point me to it?

Actually, @Echo made a wiki, since updating the Dramatis Personae post was getting a bit much. It should be linked in the last story post, if it's not in the first post by now. Here's a link. If you'd rather look at the Dramatis Personae post, it's literally just after the first post of the Quest.
 
I also remember seeing an updated Dramatis Personae in this thread somewhere, that also had pictures of the main cast, but it doesn't seem to be bookmarked (which does disservice to the quality of the fan art, I think).

Could someone maybe, who remembers where it is, please point me to it?
This, I presume?

[X] An overview of the group members, their personalities, and whatever Maiko has on their internal dynamics. Being well-informed is one thing, being a stalker is another.
[X] Ask Maiko to tag along at a distance, like usual.
[X] With confidence and power — try to keep your demeanour similar to yesterday's, but make sure to subtly or not-so-subtly hint that your group has access to numerous resources and wildly different abilities. Try to keep it natural, don't go out of your way to show off or brag.
 
Do note that Koharu previously said she'd be available after school on Monday and Wednesday for the meeting you had at Momoko's house yesterday. She didn't specify why she wasn't otherwise available, but it's a reasonable assumption that she has other obligations. Remember Hitomi having to go do Fancy Rich Girl Activities while Sayaka and Madoka went to hang out together?

Fair enough, I'll go back and edit my vote appropriately.
 
Actually, @Echo made a wiki, since updating the Dramatis Personae post was getting a bit much. It should be linked in the last story post, if it's not in the first post by now. Here's a link. If you'd rather look at the Dramatis Personae post, it's literally just after the first post of the Quest.

Thanks, but I already noticed the links to the wiki, I meant the updated Dramatis Personae in the middle of the thread that @Shaseyu linked at (thank you!). The one on the first page is outdated.
 
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What the deal is with Tomo's identity

Spitball guess: remember the elementary school kid from just before flailing at ddr with Natsuki. The one that Maiko said would rather not meet out of tranformation. I am guessing that they are Tomo.

If this is the case, I suspect that Maiko may be deferring the reveal of this information to a time when numbers are less critical or our situation is more stable, on the chance that Yui may feel compelled to keep the younger kid out of the fight no matter how useful Tomo's abilities may be in fights with other Magical girls.
 
[X] Concentrate on the girl you're meeting, keep working on that reputation of being impossibly well-informed
[X] With love and justice! Play up the 'classic magical girl' routine; they already know how powerful you can be.
[x] Ask Maiko to tag along at a distance, like usual.
[x] Ask Koharu if she has an interest in accompanying you (openly) to a hopefully-rewarding diplomaticmeeting.
 
I'll be honest, the main reason is that I realized I didn't have all the details on the group planned out in advance, it was getting late, and I really wanted to post the update. That said, the option to have Yui avoid advance knowledge to let the conversation with the Nerima girl happen naturally vs. seeming all-knowing is something I would have wanted to include either way.

For what it's worth, the "are you flirting with Chizuka" thing is only going to come up as a joke at best, not something taken seriously. Also, if you asked Maiko for the most condensed summary of the situation she can give, her reply would be something like "*pained sigh* Complicated."
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Maiko will definitely tell you that the external threats Chizuka mentioned are real, but that internal conflicts are the more pressing concern. Also, if you take Maiko along with she can feed info to you during the meeting as well, which helps.
Everything involving magical girls is always complicated, somehow. Telling Maiko to use her judgement will default to the "internal dynamics" vote, then?

She has their names as of last night, but they're out of spysat range. She could possibly check one of the two from the Nerima border, but if you want her to confirm meguca status for both ASAP then yeah, she needs to head east.
Definitely no Minami, then. We need those girls dealt with ASAP; preferably we'll be able to talk to both of them tonight after she's confirmed their status.

Do note that Koharu previously said she'd be available after school on Monday and Wednesday for the meeting you had at Momoko's house yesterday. She didn't specify why she wasn't otherwise available, but it's a reasonable assumption that she has other obligations. Remember Hitomi having to go do Fancy Rich Girl Activities while Sayaka and Madoka went to hang out together?
Thanks for the reminder! That said, I think it would still be worth inviting her, because she didn't explicitly state unavailability as far as I know, and even if she turns us down the act of invitation counts for something. It makes people feel good for their presence to be desired, and just knowing that Yui wanted her to participate is likely to improve Koharu's opinion of Yui- at least a little. Small gestures of respect and friendship add up.

To be fair, Yui doesn't have any reason to think Himari dislikes her. Himari seems like she'd be delighted to have Yui as a neighbor or teammate. It's only the question of leadership that's the issue, and if Himari was petty enough to sabotage your position outright Maiko would probably speak up about it.

The main concern with Himari is the old "never give orders you know won't be obeyed" principle--Yui isn't sure how much control she actually has here.
Oh, yeah, I don't think she's actively against us. But one thing that Yui has tried to push is centralized control and coordination, which we know that Himari disapproves of, and Yui's trying to keep enthusiasm for her way of doing things high while building personal loyalty. Just having Himari around rolling her eyes at Yui's bright idealism and muttering about how she's making everything inconvenient and things were never like this under Momoko is likely to undermine Koharu's faith in Yui as a capable leader. She's in a position of likely trusting Himari's judgement more than Yui's and even if she trusted Yui more, merely having a credible opposing opinion introduces undesirable concepts like "Yui might be wrong".

Why is everybody voting for Red Team? It hasn't even kicked in yet! :lol
Fond nostalgia, or a boundless faith in Red Team's ability to form/steal/cannibalize the optimal vote in the coming hours? You decide.
 
Good to see this back. In preparation of this moment, my avatar is now predominantly yellow, which will allow me to form my own voting bloc and return to the glory days when I was all-powerful in this thread. (Disclaimer: Such an era may never have existed.)

:p
 
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