Interesting avenue for soap is to set up mass production so we can open a market for nice soap to the middle or lower classes and massively expand our consumer base (at this point of development most soap would be homemade garbage or produced shittily in soap works).
Powder, Gears, and Blessed Steam - A WHF Engineering Quest
- Thread starter adwarf
- Start date
- Fantasy
[] Plan: Prince of Steam and Steel
-[] Meeting with Gramps, the Attempt
-[] Look to the fragmented Border Princes
-[] Physical Training x2
-[] Crafting
--[] Matchlocks
[] Plan: Iron Knights
-[] Meeting with Gramps, the Attempt
-[] Look to Bretonnia
-[] Physical Training x2
-[] Oh, the Wonders of Soap
So two plans for the first one we need some weapons if we are heading down to the princes, and for the second well the soap gets us through the door with the nobles.
-[] Meeting with Gramps, the Attempt
-[] Look to the fragmented Border Princes
-[] Physical Training x2
-[] Crafting
--[] Matchlocks
[] Plan: Iron Knights
-[] Meeting with Gramps, the Attempt
-[] Look to Bretonnia
-[] Physical Training x2
-[] Oh, the Wonders of Soap
So two plans for the first one we need some weapons if we are heading down to the princes, and for the second well the soap gets us through the door with the nobles.
About Marienburg can we get the City to Patronize us, i mean they shit gold and we are a very inteligent person and well they would love some of our creations, like they almost always have to deal with raids from Norscans right, so some new Steam tanks or even Steam ships would be very much welcome to them.
Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
- Location
- Indonesia
It would take years of work, a lot of money, and a lot of research but we could do it if we are lucky with out roles. But would it be fun to develop a Steam knight in what is considered a backwater province with no factories?
- Location
- Where I an right now
Sorry, but Freddie make me have a soft spot for Ostland, beside, people are suggesting Britonia who's is all of those and a general dislike for tech and guns in general, or border princes that is will probably actively destroy anything we build with a higher than normal chance of Orks rampages
Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
- Location
- Indonesia
The ones who picked Bretonia specifically wanted to join their navy, not set up a shop in the capital.
adwarf
Possibly Terrible Writer
- Location
- Trapped with a Keyboard
To be fair to all choices, none of these are like clear cut wins compared to everything else. Pretty much every option has some hefty roadblocks waiting it ahead. In Marienburg there's the struggle that is facing down the horrors of Guild enforced monopolies. In Bretonnia only a fraction of its people and territory would truly give you any form of recognition without immense effort. In Sylvania you face far more active threats in return for an oppressed population that could become an unbreakable block of support.
In the east you look to provinces on the Empire's frontier that struggle in terms of financial and industrial power under constant siege from Beastmen, Greenskins, Norscans, Chaos, or Sylvania. Kislev is and always will be widely insular on top of being forever in a state of recovery from Chaos invasion (though Boris will help immensely once he takes power). Shooting south to the Border Princes will net you near complete freedom at the cost of enough Orcs to make you grow violently ill from seeing the color green. Even staying put has you at odds with the college and likely watched by distrustful Sigmarites.
It is a question of which you feel is worth facing down for the returns.
In the east you look to provinces on the Empire's frontier that struggle in terms of financial and industrial power under constant siege from Beastmen, Greenskins, Norscans, Chaos, or Sylvania. Kislev is and always will be widely insular on top of being forever in a state of recovery from Chaos invasion (though Boris will help immensely once he takes power). Shooting south to the Border Princes will net you near complete freedom at the cost of enough Orcs to make you grow violently ill from seeing the color green. Even staying put has you at odds with the college and likely watched by distrustful Sigmarites.
It is a question of which you feel is worth facing down for the returns.
Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
- Location
- Indonesia
What about Estalia, Tilea, and Cathay? I am planning on Marienburg being a jumping off point to make some quick cash before going by ship to more exotic locations.
adwarf
Possibly Terrible Writer
- Location
- Trapped with a Keyboard
Certainly possible choices, the main reason they're not listed alongside say Lustria or the really out there options like Sudenburg is simply you'd need one of the other options as a jumping off point. Marienburg would act as a solid jumping off point to head to some of the more far flung regions of the world by sea. As would the Border Princes by way of Barak Varr, Black Fire Pass, the Silver Road, etc.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
The navy uses cannons but I'm not sure that they'll have much interest in Steam power.
Personally I'd like to go to Kislev and try to get Prince Boris as a patron.
Kislev pluss steam power equals Frostpunk.
We will use our STEAMPOWER to industrialize Kislev and make the SIBERIAN RIFLEMEN with machine guns and breech loading wepons
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I am curious about possibly enchanting our creations with magic. . .I even doubt our character could gain magical power, except if we make a deal with something.
Bra, imagine if we just stumbled into reinventing rune crafting. That'd be funny, we'd finally make gramps proud. lol
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I don't think we can even think about using Dawi runes, at most we could possibly find a new type of runes or glyphs (other name for that because runes are trademarked by Dawi).
Okay, I'm convinced. Between taking on the variety of foes and lack of infrastructure the East provides and a large number of notoriously amoral Marienberg merchants whose livelihood were threatening, I'll take the former any day of the week and twice on Sundays. At least we can kill the gribblies, and infrastructure can be built.
[ ] Plan Go East Young (Wo)Man
-[] Meeting with Gramps, the Attempt
-[] Looking to the East
-[] Physical Training x3
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- Pronouns
- He/Him
Yeah, I feel like I don't want to deal with politics and merchants...especially when our skills in trade are not the best.
Seems to me we either go to Marienburg and make it like IRL start of industrial revolution: Cities states with strong capitalism and a culture of sponsorship in economics adventures.
Or we go to Border Princes and carve out our own place there with the help of barak varr's economics migth and where opportunities are massive.
Or we go to Border Princes and carve out our own place there with the help of barak varr's economics migth and where opportunities are massive.
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It's worth noting that Germany was really late to the game with regards to the Industrial Revolution, in no small part because of the significant power of the guilds versus the government. Given that the guilds practically are the government in Marienberg, I don't see it as fertile ground.
I rather doubt that Barak Varr will help us all that much if we head towards the Border Princes. Investing anything in that region is exceedingly risky, and Dwarfs don't like risk.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Border Prince would not be a bad place...but first, we would need some kind of foundation, like a company that follows us or we help them (I feel like it would step on CK2 quest) but going east would not be bad. Either way, finding our grandpa would be good.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
- Location
- Canada
Said tirade probably involved the stupidity of trigger-happy Umgi seeing daemons where there was only an over-eager plaitling.
Though the fact that multiple dwarfs backed our gramps up? I guess his clan/other local dwarfs consider our behavior to be in the 'foolish-but-driven youngster' category and not something to be reprimanded for (at least yet) and gramps was in the right to feed the witch hunter his own teeth.
Elsewhere a dwarf feels a sense of smugness and justification.
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Derek58
Rocket Punch is Best Punch
- Location
- Getter Valhalla
Mid-drink, Gramps suddenly feels pride swell in his chest
Speaking of that does our girl keep her hair in plaits in the proper dwarven way?
adwarf
Possibly Terrible Writer
- Location
- Trapped with a Keyboard
Margaret definitely does, Godri pretty much raised her for the last half of her childhood. Or as much as you can call grumbling at an overly intelligent child running around a school of half mad alchemists the dwarfs are also grumbling at.
Also, Voting has opened. Have at it y'all