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Powder, Gears, and Blessed Steam - A WHF Engineering Quest

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Part me wants to go to Bretonnia just to stick it to the Empire College that kicked us out, but another part of me wants to set up a Kingdom of Steam in the Border Princes.
 
Does Sylvania (or anywhere in the Empire really) even have the industry or population to support the widespread adoption of steam power? Like, there's a BIG leap between the current development of Human lands and using steam power outside of niche cases; major improvements to agriculture and land consolidation to free up workers, an educated populace that can understand and learn how to use and produce all this new stuff, a developed metal working industry, large coal or charcoal production, etc.
 
Ryzer said:
You know, after we get our shit together the place that would less be suspicious of us would be Sylvania, like those guys would be outright loyal to us if we help even a little bit with their depressing lives and it is a place for us to deliver the good word of the Steam power, because i can't remember them having any Gods having strong presence there maybe just Morr because of all the dead but outside of him, that is a field day for us to collect
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Nope, i refuse to set foot in Sylvania unless it's as part of a sizeable armed group to kill vampires and other undead.
 
Yeah, I think only Empire has good enough infrastructure. Border Prince could help us develop our own domain but that is big IF. Sylvania would not be bad but I imagine that we would need to get some stuff prepared for that journey.
 
Warmach1ne32 said:
I'd rather we go to Marienburg and build enough capital there to travel elsewhere. Having soap as a source of income in a wealthy city like Marienburg would pay for itself very quickly.
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I like this idea.

Marienburg's one of the biggest trading ports in the Old World, and I think we have pretty good chances of finding a patron that will see lots of potential profit in what we can make. And even if their support doesn't last forever, it'll give us time to get established and tech up a bit before we need to go looking for other sources of support.
 
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I'm thinking the moni option is the best bet; we require it for science and we can throw it and our inventions at the more fundamental in order to get them to fuck off as we praise the Spirit of Steam and manufacturing.
 
Hazeron said:
Does Sylvania (or anywhere in the Empire really) even have the industry or population to support the widespread adoption of steam power? Like, there's a BIG leap between the current development of Human lands and using steam power outside of niche cases; major improvements to agriculture and land consolidation to free up workers, an educated populace that can understand and learn how to use and produce all this new stuff, a developed metal working industry, large coal or charcoal production, etc.
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Altdorf and Nuln would likely be the most prepared for the adoption of steam power as both canonically have factories built there as well as a healthy population of Dwarfs to shore up their industries. Sylvania on the other hand is uh... Horribly mired in poverty and serfdom on a level that puts them behind even a lot of Bretonnia when it comes to their technology. Being oppressed by vampires and facing the undead as a fact of life will do a lot to stop progress.
 
Then if we want to get things ROLLING we'll have to go to the most hopping joint in the whole Empire (it's Nuln).

We could go full schizo and try to carve out our own fief in Sylvana but considering it's an undeveloped garbage pit that's unlikely to pay off (unless we go full Free Company and fund it from a cozy business empire in the…Empire.)
 
I think Marienburg is obviously the best location for multiple reasons. Not only is it a hub of trade that holds many cultural ties to the Empire and its engineering expertise, but it also has a very capitalistic society with many investors that would be very interested in industrial technology. It was a society like Marienburg that drove the IRL Industrial Revolution, after all. However, considering our relatively precarious financial situation, I don't think it's a good idea to head to Marienburg right away. It might be best to save up extra wealth and take a turn or two preparing before departure.
 
gutza1 said:
I think Marienburg is obviously the best location for multiple reasons. Not only is it a hub of trade that holds many cultural ties to the Empire and its engineering expertise, but it also has a very capitalistic society with many investors that would be very interested in industrial technology. It was a society like Marienburg that drove the IRL Industrial Revolution, after all. However, considering our relatively precarious financial situation, I don't think it's a good idea to head to Marienburg right away. It might be best to save up extra wealth and take a turn or two preparing before departure.
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Thing is the seeks patron action, we only have 2 dice in the pool and need 2 successes and the other is joining a merc band to try and generate profit- if we want to go and setup in Marienburg it is probably best to do so now.
 
Void Stalker said:
Thing is the seeks patron action, we only have 2 dice in the pool and need 2 successes and the other is joining a merc band to try and generate profit- if we want to go and setup in Marienburg it is probably best to do so now.
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We need to at least build some weapons to protect ourselves first, since it's noted that we'll likely run into trouble on the way.
 
adwarf said:
Altdorf and Nuln would likely be the most prepared for the adoption of steam power as both canonically have factories built there as well as a healthy population of Dwarfs to shore up their industries. Sylvania on the other hand is uh... Horribly mired in poverty and serfdom on a level that puts them behind even a lot of Bretonnia when it comes to their technology. Being oppressed by vampires and facing the undead as a fact of life will do a lot to stop progress.
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Kislev City or Erengrad could also be promising depending on when we are- if Boris has taken power, he's very eager to modernize Kislev.

Edit: Date is in the thread mark, a couple years before Boris canonically becomes Tzar.
 
Derek58 said:
It's better than traveling without any weapons to defend ourselves imo.
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For clarity the travel to Marienburg action will involve hitching a ride with a caravan. Lone/small group travel throughout the Old World is for Witch Hunters, Slayers, or a very out of his depth man named Felix getting dragged across the planet.
 
[ ] Plan Flight to Marienbrug
-[] Meeting with Gramps, the Attempt
-[] Travel to Marienburg
-[] Physical Training x3

Thoughts for a plan to go to Marienburg, talk to our Gramps before we leave to try and repair the relationship, leave and work on our body stat for lack of better to do (dont want to spend wealth until we are settled in with income coming in because if i read the research rules right we would need at least 10 successes in even pairs to finish soap if it tier 1, more if it is higher and i think our dice pool for soap would be 6 or 7 of which we need a 5 or 6 on the d6 for a success)
 
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