To be fair, Louise courting Henrietta for breeding purposes is probably destined for failure. I mean, you never really know, with Water mages, but there would seem to be a missing ingredient if breeding is the goal...
Overlady: Attack of the Minions (Thread II)
- Thread starter EarthScorpion
- Start date
- Fantasy
- Location
- oregon, usa
- Pronouns
- He/Him
This particular problem may turn out to be self solving.
Although, I personally suspect that this guy is going to make things difficult and not take the imminently suicidal option. I mean, he has managed to run a long con so far, and Magdalene's little cult has managed to not get caught yet despite the competence, or lack thereof, of some of its members, so he cannot be too dumb. Never mind. What am I saying? I just compared him to the idiot that got concussed with a candlestick for accepting a dark god's blessing, this guy is a goner.
Still, death by Overlady seems too easy, too straightforward. I blame Power Games, making me second guess everything.
- Location
- Spain
- Location
- in the trash
Life* is Evil**. And Evil always finds away.
*Not including fluffy bunnies, butterflies, unicorns, and several species of birds.
**Unlife is also Evil. As are unliving golems crafted by demonic engineers. And so on.
You say that like mere biological sex is going to get in the way of Evil. Much less Evil so well versed in magic and of a bloodline that undoubtedly has something in it's libraries for this situation.
Dunno if it has been mentioned here before, but the first Overlord game is on sale at GOG (https://www.gog.com/game/overlord_raising_hell) for Halloween, for 2 dollars.
This lagomorph would like to speak with you.
Steam has an even better sale at a $1.24
Also yes it has been mentioned before.
- Location
- England
Out of curiosity and hope, is AGLITV dead or on indefinite hiatus?
boo600
Ego sum egredietur tempestas.
- Location
- Texas
- Pronouns
- He/Him/Hungry
I do have a question: Would an Omake be OK?
While I understand that Louise is not trying to take over the world, and that this is not a Power Fic (which is why we read it- Mary Sues are as boring as... well, Mary Sues. Or Gary Stues. Or... oatmeal, I guess?), I would like to explore the possibilities that the Word Of Antimagic (that's my headcanon name for it until another is given) could do, especially since it A) Uses up Louise's Evil Magic and B) could, if she just needs some sort of spell matrix to allow her EM to be temporarily suppressed if weak, give access to her Square Mage level Air Magic.
I have an interesting scene in mind for a meeting with the heroes (and it may even happen, somewhat), and some analysis of what could happen if Karin and Louise ever came to blows. I would have Louise set at full Evil (willing to kill heroes, at least somewhat) for the purposes of looking at pure capabilities, rather than what would happen.
It's a fun little exercise that could tide a few people over (by making suggestions, if nothing else) if that is OK with ES. I would like permission before posting this, as I am not aware of the policy on Omakes in this particular thread, and this somewhat goes against ES's recent state on "screw powergaming, let's have an interesting story."
Edit/Note: I would not give Louise a Minion Hive or any other capabilities beyond what is in-story, beyond the hypothetical magic-changer/debuffer.
While I understand that Louise is not trying to take over the world, and that this is not a Power Fic (which is why we read it- Mary Sues are as boring as... well, Mary Sues. Or Gary Stues. Or... oatmeal, I guess?), I would like to explore the possibilities that the Word Of Antimagic (that's my headcanon name for it until another is given) could do, especially since it A) Uses up Louise's Evil Magic and B) could, if she just needs some sort of spell matrix to allow her EM to be temporarily suppressed if weak, give access to her Square Mage level Air Magic.
I have an interesting scene in mind for a meeting with the heroes (and it may even happen, somewhat), and some analysis of what could happen if Karin and Louise ever came to blows. I would have Louise set at full Evil (willing to kill heroes, at least somewhat) for the purposes of looking at pure capabilities, rather than what would happen.
It's a fun little exercise that could tide a few people over (by making suggestions, if nothing else) if that is OK with ES. I would like permission before posting this, as I am not aware of the policy on Omakes in this particular thread, and this somewhat goes against ES's recent state on "screw powergaming, let's have an interesting story."
Edit/Note: I would not give Louise a Minion Hive or any other capabilities beyond what is in-story, beyond the hypothetical magic-changer/debuffer.
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... are you talking about Dispel there? The canon Void Magic spell that I literally just used here with all the same properties, including the shuts down all magic and "it exhausts you to use it" bit? That I just don't name because it's much more dramatic this way, for her to "speak a single word" than "yelling 'Dispel' when casting"?
It's literally just Dispel.
As for Omakes, my threads are officially an omake-unfriendly territory. That doesn't mean they're banned, but I direct a critical eye at any posted and I won't hold back if I think they're bad, miss the point, or are just a bashfic [1]. The best way to avoid this is, of course, to ask first.
(Any omakes posted in separate threads are none of my business, as a fanfic writer. If people want to write fanfic of my fanfic and post it in its own thread, they're free to. I have absolutely no moral right to protest at people doing that. If you want to write a spin-off fanfic, go ahead!)
[1] The reason I have such a negative reputation for my reaction to them is because someone wrote a foetid pile of shit in the Imago thread, which was a Trio-bashing snippet and I was curt to them and told them to take it to the Worm idea thread. This apparently became warped in the retelling to me turning into a werewolf and mauling them to death. Even though honestly that snippet was bad enough that it wouldn't have been entirely undeserved.
The Sandman
So Zetta Slowpoke
- Location
- Wherever I am, which isn't where I'm not
I do wonder if Karin put two and two together regarding the identity of the Overlady, given that it would be quite difficult for Eleanor to explain crucial parts of what happened without letting the Louise-bomb drop by accident.
I also note that Eleanore is still clearly suicidal given that she's setting herself up as the world-weary mentor figure trying to keep a young hero from making her own mistakes.
I wonder what sort of bizarre stories are likely to be produced in Gallia as the Crown Princess attempts to figure out how this whole "ethics" thing works in practice. Likely while corresponding with Guiche via Tabitha, since he's already shown himself as a good source of advice. King Joseph might even find it amusing enough that he doesn't follow through on ruining it, or at least not yet.
The water spirit segment was interesting in that it seems unlikely that Monmon is the only person on the planet with a bloodline or contractual connection to a lesser water spirit, which implies that the three great water spirits saw some reason to contact her in particular.
I wonder if Guiche is so well-adjusted because he has sane living parental figures who are actually competent at the parenting? I could see the other on-screen members of his age cohort commiserating on their mutual envy of his family situation.
And as long as we're talking about male characters, I feel like Emperor Lee is a decent bet for Louise's next lieutenant, should she acquire one. Because the reasonable next phase in his arc would be him being deposed, wounded, and forced to flee to the only person he kinda-sorta trusts. Followed by him becoming increasingly comfortable as Louise's lieutenant despite his stated intent of biding his time until he can return home and reclaim his throne.
...and because it would give ES an excuse to write an honest-to-god love triangle, which I don't recall ever popping up in any of his other fics. No, Touma existing in A Certain Droll Hivemind doesn't count. And the Kerisgame situation kind of skipped right past "love triangle" into "slow awkward move toward polyamory".
Last thought for now: not sure if bringing Marzipan's soulless husk back with her was a good move on Eleanor's part, given that the de la Valliere estate is one of the most likely places to find something that would love to inhabit it. Unless the idea is to find some way to turn Cattleya into something that can be decanted into Marzipan's body as a way of de-vampirizing her, since IIRC Françoise-Athenais's soul passed on when Baelogji died and thus won't be looking to return to its body.
I also note that Eleanore is still clearly suicidal given that she's setting herself up as the world-weary mentor figure trying to keep a young hero from making her own mistakes.
I wonder what sort of bizarre stories are likely to be produced in Gallia as the Crown Princess attempts to figure out how this whole "ethics" thing works in practice. Likely while corresponding with Guiche via Tabitha, since he's already shown himself as a good source of advice. King Joseph might even find it amusing enough that he doesn't follow through on ruining it, or at least not yet.
The water spirit segment was interesting in that it seems unlikely that Monmon is the only person on the planet with a bloodline or contractual connection to a lesser water spirit, which implies that the three great water spirits saw some reason to contact her in particular.
I wonder if Guiche is so well-adjusted because he has sane living parental figures who are actually competent at the parenting? I could see the other on-screen members of his age cohort commiserating on their mutual envy of his family situation.
And as long as we're talking about male characters, I feel like Emperor Lee is a decent bet for Louise's next lieutenant, should she acquire one. Because the reasonable next phase in his arc would be him being deposed, wounded, and forced to flee to the only person he kinda-sorta trusts. Followed by him becoming increasingly comfortable as Louise's lieutenant despite his stated intent of biding his time until he can return home and reclaim his throne.
...and because it would give ES an excuse to write an honest-to-god love triangle, which I don't recall ever popping up in any of his other fics. No, Touma existing in A Certain Droll Hivemind doesn't count. And the Kerisgame situation kind of skipped right past "love triangle" into "slow awkward move toward polyamory".
Last thought for now: not sure if bringing Marzipan's soulless husk back with her was a good move on Eleanor's part, given that the de la Valliere estate is one of the most likely places to find something that would love to inhabit it. Unless the idea is to find some way to turn Cattleya into something that can be decanted into Marzipan's body as a way of de-vampirizing her, since IIRC Françoise-Athenais's soul passed on when Baelogji died and thus won't be looking to return to its body.
- Location
- Somewhere.
Dammit, what is it with me and catching up with things that happen to not update for long periods of time right after I finish? Am I cursed or something?
Still, this is a good story, and I cannot wait for more of it.
Still, this is a good story, and I cannot wait for more of it.
/me resumes rating the heck out of everything
Um, dude, ES mentioned he went sabbatical on this story. There are important things he needed to do.
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
- Location
- Bottom of the barrel
Yes, and the person you quoted just mentioned that they read it just as it went on sabbatical.
Then saw the line about survival of the most liked to start like bombing
- Location
- in the trash
And you didn't consider writing a wacky spinoff story involving a Louise who was literally an amalgation of all three versions of he--Oh.
Evilution at work.
- Location
- Somewhere.
Well I was already liking everything, I just kept doing it. ;P
Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
- Location
- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
As an aside, you rating my history in this thread reminded me that this has gone on hiatus before.
- Location
- West Michigan
I'd read a wacky spinoff where all three appear in
Salty
Shadow Cabal Assumptor Supreme
- Location
- Sun, Moon, Talia
- Pronouns
- I/Me
The joke is that Scorp and Aleph wrote a crack-fic christmas crossover of many of their own fanfics about three years ago.
The multiple Louises got outright fused.
Yes, that was literally what I was joking about with those scenes.
- Location
- Argentina
Bunnies are evil, hence why demonic bunnies are a thing.
Cats are evil but also lazy and get pleased easily.
Conker Romania?,Why bother, I got all ai want right here and war takes time away from pleasing me.
Cats are evil but also lazy and get pleased easily.
Conker Romania?,Why bother, I got all ai want right here and war takes time away from pleasing me.
boo600
Ego sum egredietur tempestas.
- Location
- Texas
- Pronouns
- He/Him/Hungry
I'm not trying to write recursive fanfiction; I have exactly one scene created as a talking point- one I hope generates ideas and talking. I also have some analysis which ties into this. That's it.
Basically, the first scene is Louise vs the Heroic Interludes- first by talking to them, and when that fails, fighting them (at her home base, but they have the mercenaries). The analysis is an in-depth look at what could happen if Karen and her husband went against Louise. Both of these situations have Lousie using Dispel to destroy all of their magic and exhaust her Evil magic, allowing her to use Wind magic at a square mage level against people without wands- I noted that Dispel attacked everything magical, so even if Karin could ignore it, her wands would probably die- and according to what I've seen, she still needs wands to cast magic, no matter how powerful she is.
That's it, I promise. No bashing, although the Heroes may be stupider than normal to some extent, as I want to demonstrate Louise's variety of arguments against attacking her- she does have a plethora- and I still want them to fight... and if Louise is arguing against that, I can't see her attacking first.
There will be no intentional bashing. I don't like bashing- all of the bashing (of characters, at least) I have seen is quite poorly done. Unless Overlady counts, of course.
Do I have your permission to submit an Omake? If you dislike it, I promise that I will remove it- just PM me and it's gone.
*Puts a trained puppy on the floor*
But that's what "It's literally just Dispel" means. It's just a Void/Evil spell. It got provided to her by the Gauntlet. It snuffs out magic in the area (and then she usually collapses from exhaustion, because that's how ZnT magic works - it's not cast from "mana", it's cast from the caster's willpower and so if you can't cast you're mentally and physically exhausted).
Why the hell would she be able to use Wind magic when she exhausted herself using her normal magic? It's precisely as silly as arguing that she should be able to cast Wind magic in canon after using Dispel, because it's literally the same thing (slightly aesthetically tweaked for crossover).
Louise can't use any other kind of magic when she's the heir to the power she has. There is no munchkinning around it. What's so hard about that?
I don't think that Karin has enough information quite yet. All her sources of information that we know of are all blood members of the Valliere family who are all trying their best to deceive Karin. However I would say that it's not unlikely that Karin is close.
As for Lee, I just don't see any of that happening. Louise eliminated a big chunk of his enemies in exchange for being able to give the Cabal Awards speech and I don't think there's much middle ground for Lee to fall into between "attempt on his life is effortlessly thwarted" and "dead". To say nothing of the lack of trust between Lee and Louise despite their dating as well as the fact that ES has already been juggling both the "Henriette < Louise <> Lee " and " Louise > Henriette <> Wales" love triangles.
Also Marzipan's soul didn't pass on, and she as well as Baelogi and Athe are not dead. They're all soul trapped in the same gem and the Eleanore brought both the body and the gem with her to revive Marzipan and to put the gem still containing Baelogi and Athe into the family vaults after she retrieved Marzipan.