"Uhhhhh, I have a very much alive parent, you know?"
As soon as we find out where your parent is, and can bring him or her here, we will turn you over to him or her.

In the meantime, we can't have a minor who is also an untrained mage, running around with out reasonable supervision.

Therefore we have two choices:
We can put you in confinement. Which with your proven ability to escape will mean that not only will it be maximum security, your Unison device will have to be locked down and put into secure storage.

Or, we can have some one we can trust, and be willing to see that you get trained and treated with respect watch over you, and your device will only have a limiter place on it, until you come of age or pass the appropriate training.

Fortunately we have a pair of Trusted Officers, who have experience with, over powered, adolescent mages, who have also volunteered to Look after you.
 
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As soon as we find out where your parent is, and can bring him or her here, we will turn you over to him or her.

In the meantime, we can't have a minor who is also an untrained mage, running around with out reasonable supervision.

Therefore we have two choices:
We can put you in confinement. Which with your proven ability to escape will mean that not only will it be maximum security, your Unison device will have to be locked down and put into secure storage.

Or, we can have some one we can trust, and be willing to see that you get trained and treated with respect watch over you, and your device will only have a limiter place on it, until you come of age or pass the appropriate training.

Fortunately we have a pair of Trusted Officers, who have experience, over powered, adolescent mages, who have volunteered to Look after you.
And you just delivered an ultimatum which is highly likely to escalate the situation.
 
And you just delivered an ultimatum which is highly likely to escalate the situation.
Only, it wouldn't be delivered that way.

The ultimatum @Itsune wrote would be the reality, but Nanoha and her friends excel at befriending characters like that. Genuine befriending; not the memetic "Shoot them a lot" one, which only really happened a single time. (With Alice, no less, and that involved a slap.)

It would only be in retrospect, after she'd lived with them a year and already had thoroughly gotten used to big sis Nanoha, that Taylor might ever realize that such an ultimatum existed. It wouldn't be a betrayal; she'd be loyal to Nanoha, not the TSAB, and that ultimatum also isn't how Nanoha sees it.

It's unlikely that they'd ultimately let Taylor run around on her own, yes. Fortunately they're good people, and excel at not letting it come to that.
 
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Only, it wouldn't be delivered that way.

The ultimatum @Itsune wrote would be the reality, but Nanoha and her friends excel at befriending characters like that. Genuine befriending; not the memetic "Shoot them a lot" one, which only really happened a single time. (With Alice, no less, and that involved a slap.)

It would only be in retrospect, after she'd lived with them a year and already had thoroughly gotten used to big sis Nanoha, that Taylor might ever realize that such an ultimatum existed. It wouldn't be a betrayal; she'd be loyal to Nanoha, not the TSAB, and that ultimatum also isn't how Nanoha sees it.

It's unlikely that they'd ultimately let Taylor run around on her own, yes. Fortunately they're good people, and excel at not letting it come to that.
So it's okay because they are nice people?

Like, the more you describe it, the worse it sounds.
 
As soon as we find out where your parent is, and can bring him or her here, we will turn you over to him or her.

In the meantime, we can't have a minor who is also an untrained mage, running around with out reasonable supervision.

Therefore we have two choices:
We can put you in confinement. Which with your proven ability to escape will mean that not only will it be maximum security, your Unison device will have to be locked down and put into secure storage.

Or, we can have some one we can trust, and be willing to see that you get trained and treated with respect watch over you, and your device will only have a limiter place on it, until you come of age or pass the appropriate training.

Fortunately we have a pair of Trusted Officers, who have experience with, over powered, adolescent mages, who have also volunteered to Look after you.
So what, the crime of being talented at teleportation is enough to get you imprisoned? And fully sentient and sapient AIs have no rights whatsoever? Sounds rather totalitarian.

Does the TSAB have any concept of limited jurisdiction? Or respect for sovereignty of other countries? Suppose Taylor went to the government of the USA she just landed in, told them she's an alternate-dimensional citizen who's being persecuted by magical space aliens, demonstrated some magic and was promptly granted asylum and all the funding she wants as long as she's willing to teach some of this to the locals. Would the TSAB keep hunting her down even if it meant engaging in open combat with US military or police forces?
 
So it's okay because they are nice people?

Like, the more you describe it, the worse it sounds.
People can be nice.
Governments, military organizations, and administrations are Evil, and Nasty out of necessity.
TSAB, will not unnecessarily cross Jurisdictional lines, they may not even actively hunt.
That doesn't stop them from posting notices, and requests for communication in relation to questionable behavior.
Like escaping from a detention cell, and teleporting unannounced into a Security Station.
 
Governments, military organizations, and administrations are Evil, and Nasty out of necessity because they can get away with it.

FTFY. :(

And I'll reiterate - deliberately taunting and antagonizing the Ancient Space Weapon is not the best of plans. Which is hopefully why they won't.
 
Governments, military organizations, and administrations are Evil, and Nasty out of necessity.
I'd contest that governments tend towards the Lawful Neutral. Totalitarians qualify as Lawful Evil, I suppose, but they tend to stick out as being Bad Governments.

But for all their faults, the TSAB is apparently pretty good at its job. At least a hundred worlds within its sphere of influence, in which it is safe enough that interplanetary/interdimensional travel for tourism or business is a matter of course, prosperity seems to be the rule, strangers and travelers are welcome, and life-threatening incidents from living in Interdimensional War 3's relic-filled battlefield are, by and large, handled safely and swiftly. The laws are evidently fair enough that circumstances are taken into account and rehabilitation is quite frequent. The government has a non-interference policy that it is still willing to break to preserve lives, and is quite content with letting new polities come to them, rather than forcing them in by force of arms.
Of course there are dark sides. Jail Scaglietti and the Brains come to mind.

The TSAB may not be perfect - no such government exists - but by and large it is a good government. As good as a government can really get.
 
But for all their faults, the TSAB is apparently pretty good at its job. At least a hundred worlds within its sphere of influence, in which it is safe enough that interplanetary/interdimensional travel for tourism or business is a matter of course, prosperity seems to be the rule, strangers and travelers are welcome, and life-threatening incidents from living in Interdimensional War 3's relic-filled battlefield are, by and large, handled safely and swiftly. The laws are evidently fair enough that circumstances are taken into account and rehabilitation is quite frequent. The government has a non-interference policy that it is still willing to break to preserve lives, and is quite content with letting new polities come to them, rather than forcing them in by force of arms.
Of course there are dark sides. Jail Scaglietti and the Brains come to mind.

Also, it is amazing that the TSAB manages to pull this off, I have seen people describe MGLN as a post-apocalyptic setting before.
 
I'd contest that governments tend towards the Lawful Neutral. Totalitarians qualify as Lawful Evil, I suppose, but they tend to stick out as being Bad Governments.

But for all their faults, the TSAB is apparently pretty good at its job. At least a hundred worlds within its sphere of influence, in which it is safe enough that interplanetary/interdimensional travel for tourism or business is a matter of course, prosperity seems to be the rule, strangers and travelers are welcome, and life-threatening incidents from living in Interdimensional War 3's relic-filled battlefield are, by and large, handled safely and swiftly. The laws are evidently fair enough that circumstances are taken into account and rehabilitation is quite frequent. The government has a non-interference policy that it is still willing to break to preserve lives, and is quite content with letting new polities come to them, rather than forcing them in by force of arms.
Of course there are dark sides. Jail Scaglietti and the Brains come to mind.

The TSAB may not be perfect - no such government exists - but by and large it is a good government. As good as a government can really get.
It's fairly easy to be 'good' when there is no rival governments to compare to. TSAB is a defacto empire, with no peer opponents to keep it honest or apply pressure.
 
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Also, it is amazing that the TSAB manages to pull this off, I have seen people describe MGLN as a post-apocalyptic setting before.
It's about as post-apocalyptic as post-WW2 Europe, if the rest of the world didn't exist. Which... is pretty damn post-apocalyptic, to be honest.

It's actually multiply post-apocalyptic. The Belkan unification wars are not the first, not the second, but the third time civilization nearly collapsed that we know of. First there was the fall (well, disappearance) of Al Hazard, in a cataclysmic dimensional rift; then, the fall of old Belka; and the unification wars honestly count as their own cataclysm, given elements such as the Book of Darkness and (likely) Mariposa being deployed.

The Unification Wars were a probably inevitable consequence of the way Old Belka fragmented, though. Which is, I suppose, yet another line of similarity I could draw.

The TSAB was formed, IIRC, in response to the collective militaries of all the major sides of that war -- what was left of them, after the equivalent of nuclear war followed up with more nuclear war -- rebelling against their civilian masters and going "fuck this", with an extra helping of "never again" once the other civilians got used to the new and relatively peaceful situation.

They were formed through a military coup, which explains a lot about them; notably, as far as we know they aren't in the least bit democratic. The leaders of the TSAB have military titles and commands, and the major, politically relevant families we learn about, are military families. The Harlaowns would be an example. Nanoha has tried her very best to avoid politics, but Hayate's position is an inherently political one, and she's been climbing pretty high in the ranks.

Democracy still exists, on a local level. Administered Planets are still mostly self-administrating, so long as they avoid breaking anything; the TSAB's official powers are probably infinite, but habitually stop at the stratosphere for anything but capturing dimensional criminals or dealing with Lost Logia -- which are the equivalent of nuclear mines, half the time. That's not to say that they can't override the locals when they feel like it. There was a minor conflict between Midchildan authorities and the TSAB in the middle of StrikerS, where Midchilda was completely swept aside the moment Hayate found a decent excuse.

It's a government of people, not of laws.

If you know anything about history, you'll know that this is a recipe for disaster. However, at the moment they're still idealistic and in fact non-corrupt, with people who are, almost to a man, trying their hardest to do good work.

This is not unexpected. Disasters, so long as they're survivable in the immediate sense, always tend to bring out the best in people. The TSAB has been recovering from a near civilization-ending disaster for the last two generations, and are only now just starting to come out of that mode. They've patched up all the really bad battle-damage, and should now start on the process of nation-building.

That's how things will go, if they're going to go well.

One could write a really good story about that, whether or not you think the eventual outcome will be good, but MGLN isn't that story. Neither, I think, is this.
 
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Why would there be? Much like the US, they had an infinite frontier to expand into. If you ever had an issue you could fuck off to another world
The US shares the world with 192 countries with various alignments towards or against it on many diverse topics though...
 
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But the notification that an illegal transference to UA-97 had been executed came packaged with some interesting context.

Is what Taylor did even illegal?

If the rule in question has anything to do with misuse of TSAB resources, she didn't. She did the transfer entirely without assistance, not even using their navigation info. Similarly, she's likely to bypass every rule that deals with anything beyond the act of transferring itself.

If the law forbids knowingly traveling to a restricted world, well, she had no reason to think it was restricted. She even outright asked the TSAB if there were any forbidden worlds in the area and they didn't tell her about it.

I don't think the TSAB even has jurisdiction here. Taylor's a citizen of a UW traveling from a UW to another UW. Why would this be TSAB business even if she used some Administered waypoints?
 
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The US shares the world with 192 countries with various alignments towards or against it on many diverse topics though...
Only after the 1890's or so. Until then, if you got pissed off with the scene and law in the East, you could go build a society in the Western Frontier. And before that, if you were a dissatisfied minority religion or group in Europe, you could leave for the empty expanses of the US. The ability to literally say " I will build my own city! With Blackjack and Hookers!" helped cut down on large amounts of social unrest for a lot of the USA's history.
 
Is what Taylor did even illegal?
That's an interesting question...

I'm not sure the TSAB operates on laws, so much as loose guidelines. They're large enough that there have to be rules, but they might be rules more akin those in a code of engagement. With, over the last seventy years, an extra-large helping of custom and habits; UK common law style.

I don't know if you noticed, but we never really see Nanoha or any other of their agents worry about law, legalities, or responsibility to anyone but their superiors and their own consciences. I think there's a reason for that.
 
Only after the 1890's or so. Until then, if you got pissed off with the scene and law in the East, you could go build a society in the Western Frontier. And before that, if you were a dissatisfied minority religion or group in Europe, you could leave for the empty expanses of the US. The ability to literally say " I will build my own city! With Blackjack and Hookers!" helped cut down on large amounts of social unrest for a lot of the USA's history.
There was the Mexican American war and the massive internal discontent over the issue of the expansion of slavery into the west though...


That's an interesting question...

I'm not sure the TSAB operates on laws, so much as loose guidelines. They're large enough that there have to be rules, but they might be rules more akin those in a code of engagement. With, over the last seventy years, an extra-large helping of custom and habits; UK common law style.

I don't know if you noticed, but we never really see Nanoha or any other of their agents worry about law, legalities, or responsibility to anyone but their superiors and their own consciences. I think there's a reason for that.
Would it be wrong to call the TSAB a loose confederation of various surviving parties which would explain the massive amount of leeway in their law books?
 
Would it be wrong to call the TSAB a loose confederation of various surviving parties which would explain the massive amount of leeway in their law books?
Somewhat. They have a unified military, and the military is in charge... the administrated worlds themselves seem rather loosely affiliated with each other, though. They're all remnants of pre-TSAB, Unification War era states, so except for the ones that were too badly damaged to handle themselves, I don't know if they have a great deal of contact outside of trade.

There is a unified military.

There isn't a unified political system. The TSAB is in charge, but its officers aren't elected, and don't necessarily even come from its constituent nations. Military families like the Harlaowns, though certainly settled in TSAB space, probably identify more with the TSAB itself than with the planet they're settled on. There may or may not be any parliamentary system, even if just a purely advisory one; but if there is, we haven't seen it.

Is there a fiscal / monetary union? Honestly... probably not. Apart from the truly damaged planets, again, most of the ones we've seen should be able to handle themselves. Midchilda may have lost two thirds of its population, but it's still a planet, with all the natural resources of one and a population at least ranging in the hundreds of millions.

Trade isn't as necessary as it is here. So is there even a customs union? ...maybe.
 
I refuse to believe that the Infinity Library uses something as poorly thought-out as Dewey
What's wrong with the Dewey sorting system?
Does the STAB know about the union device IC ? Did I miss that in story?
The Time-Space Administration Bureau takes pains to avoid that acronym, for it's unfortunate implications regarding first-call behavior towards... basically everything. Or so I'm presuming from the fact they're never called that in-verse, only ever referred to as TSAB when shortened, despite Space-Time flowing off the tongue better.

As to the story itself so far, it's pretty great! For only three chapters you've done well in fleshing out the mechanics of learning magic - something we never got too much detail on from the anime - as well as how Taylor's been adjusting to leaving her homeworld behind and the vastly different way people treat her/each other in TSAB worlds compared to Earth Bet. I particularly liked how Taylor interpreted being picked up by the police and put in a room overnight, vs the police officer's thoughts after she teleported out and he reviewed the video recordings.
 
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Is what Taylor did even illegal?

If the rule in question has anything to do with misuse of TSAB resources, she didn't. She did the transfer entirely without assistance, not even using their navigation info. Similarly, she's likely to bypass every rule that deals with anything beyond the act of transferring itself.

If the law forbids knowingly traveling to a restricted world, well, she had no reason to think it was restricted. She even outright asked the TSAB if there were any forbidden worlds in the area and they didn't tell her about it.

I don't think the TSAB even has jurisdiction here. Taylor's a citizen of a UW traveling from a UW to another UW. Why would this be TSAB business even if she used some Administered waypoints?

The TSAB has jurisdiction for every action that Taylor has taken on their worlds, inside their borders, and in most military views, any actions she taken on the bases of the TSAB outside of their borders.

If Taylor had never set foot on any TSAB world, or any of their bases, it be very easy to argue legally they don't have jurisdiction for her showing up on an unadministered world from another one. Not without some sort of prior agreement, namely a treaty of some kind, with said government of that world. Otherwise they basically arguing that these unadministered world are under their control. Which most sane countries would view as a declaration of war if they don't agree with that view point.

What they do have jurisdiction on is actions on their worlds and bases. The second Taylor set foot on one of their worlds, she was legally under their laws. Even if they didn't know she wasn't supposed to be there, even as an illegal alien, once she on their lands, she falls under the local laws and is expected to follow the local laws. To do otherwise be labeled at least a criminal, and given her power thanks to Mariposa, you could make a good case she was a hostile invasion force and dealt with as such if you had to.

Even after Taylor left those worlds, they still have legal jurisdiction for anything she did illegally in their territory, which given her age, likely includes not attending the local school, and not having a guardian to watch out for her. It unlikely that they would have chosen to follow her, given she hadn't done anything more then steal from muggers, but it very well established law that if you enter a foreign nation and commit a crime, unless you have diplomatic immunity from an existing treaty, they are within their rights to arrest you, try your for the crime under local laws and enforce said punishment.

Which does include asking other counties if you left the country you commited the crime in, to return you to them for punishment. Most wouldn't attempt that unless you did something rather big, but baring a treaty that says minor crimes are dismissed when you leave, the country you did a crime in has jurisdiction over you for that crime until it statute of limitations (if any), runs out.

As far as the TSAB knows, Taylor is not from an unadministered world, even if she not in their system, the odds that she got off an unadministered world without help by someone that falls under their jurisdiction which then grants them at least some jurisdiction over her, are slim to none. The likely assumption is, that she is from some world that the TSAB has access to, but her records never made it into the system or never existed in the first place.

There is a lot of planets after all, and someone could hide a daughter for evil purposes easy enough. So working under the assumption that Taylor is in some way a TSAB citizen already, or involved enough with one to make her count as one. Who now just violated the law and went to an unadministered world without permission would in fact be correct in likely every case they had seen so far.

Now, when they try and remove her from the world she is on, being an unadministered world, would from a legal viewpoint get messy, as not being a TSAB citizen, well she did break the law to head there, they likely don't have the legal right on their own books to remove her from that world against her will. Because well she also an illegal alien there as well, if they respect the sovereignty of the local governments. They would need to ask them to hand her over.

There a big difference between sending in your own military forces to extract a criminal of your nation that escaped to foreign nation. And sending one in to extract a criminal from a third party that you don't have contact with either.
 
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