Oglethorpe's dream: A Colony of Georgia quest

Anyway, plan time. The usual blend of government service, CAPITALISM, and education.


[x] Plan Good Government
-[] Gonorrhea Scandal: Add Province of Georgia to the list of victims but let City Augusta lead the charge seeing victims are primarily Augusta residents. Due process will of course be followed and any outcome will be recorded in an objective manner.
-[] Sanitation plan: Commence the sanitation project. It will be organized and lead by permanent staffs to ensure the project is rolled out in the major cities.
-[] Skilled Trade: Professionalize the skilled workers via introduction of trade unions, the government will help these union organize workers in the related field for increasing their skill level and compensation. The organization of these unions will make use of the experiences from Doctor's association and Red Light Union.
-[] Postal service: The government will setup a postal department to fold existing commercial mail services into a consolidated system. These post offices will piggybacking onto the existing trade networks to simplify the whole process of sending mail from A to B. Aim of this government department is to provide reasonable mailing rate for all.
-[] Georgian Factories: The government will invite the movers and shakers in manufacturing business to Georgia for an industry conference. We will sell the Georgian advantages of educated and skilled worker, excellent health service, and booming trade network to lure the capitalists to build cutting edge factories here.
Should draw the eye of the youngbloods. The newbies and their sponsorship are important here. Like trains, the people currently inventing those and the processed behind them are searching for sponsors.
 
I can't say I approve of asking capitalist industrialists to come here and exploit our people. What we need isn't capitalists, it's technicians and engineers. We should establish publicly owned and accountable companies and attract skilled workers with good wages and better working conditions.
I also rewrote the unionization action, tho I think I got the gist of what VoidZero meant.

[x] Plan Good Government, Without Capitalist Pigs
-[] Gonorrhea Scandal: Add Province of Georgia to the list of victims but let City Augusta lead the charge seeing victims are primarily Augusta residents. Due process will of course be followed and any outcome will be recorded in an objective manner.
-[] Sanitation plan: Commence the sanitation project. It will be organized and lead by permanent staffs to ensure the project is rolled out in the major cities.
-[] Chartered Companies: Draft plans for Georgia Chartered Companies. The Georgia Business Bureau will offer charters to local industries (or establish them itself) and support them with government investment. It will also advertise in British papers that Georgia Government wants to sponsor innovators, inventors, and entrepreneur. Chartered companies shall ultimately be under the control of the Bureau and shall provide a portion of their profit to the Province. Chartered companies shall be prohibited from purchasing materials or renting equipment produced partly or entirely by slaves, from employing the use of ships or firms that transport slaves, and from selling tools and machines likely to be used to facilitate slave labor (like cotton gins) unless the buyer is approved by the Bureau of Business.
-[] Unions: Provide legal recognition for unions, and more importantly, sector wide unions (such as the Union of Sex Workers). The right to collectively bargain and strike shall be recognized, and attempting to prevent unionization of workers shall be prohibited. The Georgia Labor Office shall mediate negotiations and enforce union contracts. Chartered Companies are unionized by default.
-[] Postal service: The government will setup a postal department to fold existing commercial mail services into a consolidated system. These post offices will piggybacking onto the existing trade networks to simplify the whole process of sending mail from A to B. The aim of this government department is to provide reasonable mailing rate for all.
 
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[x] Plan Good Government, Without Capitalist Pigs

That is just too wonderous if we can avoid fucking it up.
 
[x] Plan Good Government, Without Capitalist Pigs

Though...

"shall be prohibited from any business dealings or investments involving slave labor or slave trading."

...won't this prohibit trade with the other colonies since they still have slavery? The crown might get mad. Not that I care terribly, but we should be prepared to deal with that if it happens.
 
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[x] Plan Good Government, Without Capitalist Pigs

Though...

"shall be prohibited from any business dealings or investments involving slave labor or slave trading."

...won't this prohibit trade with the other colonies since they still have slavery? The crown might get mad. Not that I care terribly, but we should be prepared to deal with that if it happens.
We're right in the middle of the English abolition movement with abolition becoming increasingly popular. It might get some busybodies mad but I'm pretty sure by now nobody's willing to punish a colony for outlawing and not engaging slavery. Especially not a productive colony like ours.
 
We're right in the middle of the English abolition movement with abolition becoming increasingly popular. It might get some busybodies mad but I'm pretty sure by now nobody's willing to punish a colony for outlawing and not engaging slavery. Especially not a productive colony like ours.

True. Now that I think about I'd sooner expect saboteurs from South Carolina rather than direct interference from England.
 
Industrial revolution started in England not that long ago. There should be some factories, but it won't be heavily industrialized quite yet.
 
...won't this prohibit trade with the other colonies since they still have slavery? The crown might get mad. Not that I care terribly, but we should be prepared to deal with that if it happens.
I wasn't thinking of the ban as being that expansive. Part of the reason for it is to prevent state sponsored textile mills, for example, from importing slave grown cotton from across the river. So it's partly a protectionist measure disguised as a humanitarian one.
With that said, we should really wait a decade or two before trying to poach workers.
The first industrial mill in the USA is credited to Samuel Slater "The Traitor", an employee at an English textile mill. Exporting factory designs was illegal, so he memorized the design before moving to New York in 1789. So this is about the right time for this. We also have the advantage of being British subjects, so it is hard to argue that we shouldn't be able to build British style factories, unless Britain intends to revert to the kind of oppressive mercantilism that just caused a colonial rebellion.
Doesn't make sense to poach workers anyway, we want actually engineers.
Engineers are "workers with valuable technical knowledge." Anyway, it doesn't matter if they are called engineers or not, someone has to understand the machines well enough to operate and maintain them, and I bet we can pay them more than they are making now.
 
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I wasn't thinking of the ban as being that expansive.

You need to change the wording because as it is, it sounds like the state would be preventing trading to anyone who employs slaves or the institution of slavery; not the literal sale of slaves.

The first industrial mill in the USA is credited to Samuel Slater "The Traitor", an employee at an English textile mill. Exporting factory designs was illegal, so he memorized the design before moving to New York in 1789

He was also an exception not a rule.

He risked jail just to leave the country and is not a adequate gauge of how many independent engineers exist at this time.
 
[x] Plan Good Government, Without Capitalist Pigs

I actually don't mind this plan, STATE CAPITALISM in progress. :V
 
Can't say I like this part and in some ways seem like it could antagonize Britain on some levels.
Not really? I mean, we are Britain. This is less like France doing it and more porkbarrelling. A bit of a dick move but nothing serious.

I wasn't thinking of the ban as being that expansive. Part of the reason for it is to prevent state sponsored textile mills, for example, from importing slave grown cotton from across the river. So it's partly a protectionist measure disguised as a humanitarian one
Should leave it that expansive. It fits our history of accidentallying far bigger reforms than first understood. This is a good thing. Especially now right at the cusp of slavery's end. Besides, we're doing good enough financially to tank the loss.
Mostly correct, tho i'm kinda conflicted on strike as bargaining tool.
The alternative to strike as a legitimate bargaining tool is strike as an illigitimate bargaining tool. I decidedly, from a statesman and capitalist perspective, prefer the first to the second.
 
You need to change the wording because as it is, it sounds like the state would be preventing trading to anyone who employs slaves
This is basically what it does. I was just making the point that this isn't the same thing as embargoing South Carolina.

He risked jail just to leave the country and is not a adequate gauge of how many independent engineers exist at this time.
Britain banned textile workers from emigrating and the Americans got people anyway. I can't imagine Parliament would try to ban people from moving to a self-governing British colony, unless they were willing to provoke another rebellion.
 
This is basically what it does. I was just making the point that this isn't the same thing as embargoing South Carolina.


Britain banned textile workers from emigrating and the Americans got people anyway. I can't imagine Parliament would try to ban people from moving to a self-governing British colony, unless they were willing to provoke another rebellion.

The language is not very clear or specific here. If you just put in,"...there is to be no business between groups or individuals
directly involved around the sale or transportation of slaves, African or otherwise.( Irish indentured servants)" then it will be much clearer.

They would because Parliament cannot have its innovators traveling to regions where enforcement of the law is more difficult. Also, I doubt anyone else in the colonies is this active or specific in its immigration headhunting, so the Crown can safely smash down on the Georgian Government as this would only affect us.
 
-[] Chartered Companies: Draft plans for Georgia Chartered Companies. The Georgia Business Bureau will offer charters to local industries (or establish them itself) and support them with government investment. It will also advertise in British papers that Georgia Government wants to sponsor innovators, inventors, and entrepreneur. Chartered companies shall ultimately be under the control of the Bureau, shall provide a portion of their profit to the Province, and shall be prohibited from any business dealings or investments involving slave labor or slave trading.

I guess? Nothing wrong with wanting to spend money, and the ambitious will understand the unspoken call.
 
Alright, I have changed the wording of the Charter Companies:
Chartered Companies: Draft plans for Georgia Chartered Companies. The Georgia Business Bureau will offer charters to local industries (or establish them itself) and support them with government investment. It will also advertise in British papers that Georgia Government wants to sponsor innovators, inventors, and entrepreneurs. Chartered companies shall ultimately be under the control of the Bureau and shall provide a portion of their profit to the Province. Chartered companies shall be prohibited from purchasing materials or renting equipment produced partly or entirely by slaves, from employing the use of ships or firms that transport slaves, and from selling tools and machines likely to be used to facilitate slave labor (like cotton gins) unless the buyer is approved by the Bureau of Business.
 
Alright, I have changed the wording of the Charter Companies:
Chartered Companies: Draft plans for Georgia Chartered Companies. The Georgia Business Bureau will offer charters to local industries (or establish them itself) and support them with government investment. It will also advertise in British papers that Georgia Government wants to sponsor innovators, inventors, and entrepreneurs. Chartered companies shall ultimately be under the control of the Bureau and shall provide a portion of their profit to the Province. Chartered companies shall be prohibited from purchasing materials or renting equipment produced partly or entirely by slaves, from employing the use of ships or firms that transport slaves, and from selling tools and machines likely to be used to facilitate slave labor (like cotton gins) unless the buyer is approved by the Bureau of Business.
I don't like this. It serves no need and provides loopholes that we don't need. The blanket law is blanket and broad but frankly some things don't need specification. At all. The most change that needed was the word directly and even then I'd say the blanket law is better.

What need, not short term optimization but need, does this refinement serve?
 
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Also lemme put it like this, you're revising an airtight law to provide wiggle room so that freemen, Georgian freemen, working for the companies made by the colony in their name will have more room to be made to contribute to, and interact with the institution of slavery. Freemen I might get add,anybody whom were slaves.

This as opposed to being able to find work in a company that, standing morally higher than most others, does not interact with not contribute to the institution of slavery but sharply rejects and denies it. That these freemen can look at their work and know that not one person as found in servitude for it, that not one drop of their sweat had any, any at all, contribution to that most heinous institution.

And certainly, the colony is not in so dire Straits that this had need.
 
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