Oglethorpe's dream: A Colony of Georgia quest

[X] Plan: basic things

A bit iffy on the speech, might cause breakdown in relations with the Indian govts.
Say what's the size of Cherokee and Creek territory?
The Cherokee have the Northeastern part of Georgia with our Southern border being where Elberton, Georgia. and our western border being Alpharetta, Georgia of course that's just Georgia the Cherokee territories stretch up into Tennessee. Where the newly formed Cherokee Government has placed their capital Echota. But keep in mind their are people in the Cherokee did not accept the deal and remain on the ceded lands. I haven't thought of the Creek borders yet.
 
You don't talk down a racial riot by confirming their rhetoric, you calm it down by resolving their strife around it while disarming their rhetoric. You don't hand them the ground but take it from them.

No. I thought I made it clear that we're shifting the blame to third party land surveyors. *sigh*
 
No. I thought I made it clear that we're shifting the blame to third party land surveyors. *sigh*
While lying to confirm their rhetoric for no reason. Like, if you wanna do that you don't tell them they're right first, you sidesteps that and jump straight to the third party. You don't go "the Indians tricked us"(they didn't by the way, we went into that knowing we'd get crappy land) you go "the surveyors tricked us all and all the woes are at their hand.

Like, the point still stands, you don't quell a race riot by confirming their bullshit. Doesn't change because you tack some other scapegoat at the end, you're still confirming their bullshit.

Anyway,

[X]Plan: No Bullshit
] Protest
-[X] Public Address: "
Dear comrades of Georgia, I share in your grief for it is a shame when a child of Georgia must perish. I share in your grief for I too am a man of Georgia with a love for its people. I too weep for these lost sons who were hung.

However, I am a man of Georgia and it is for this that I acknowledge that these men needed to hang. It was needed not because the Indian is barbarous nor needlessly cruel. It was needed not because we were cheated and they saught to correct matters. It was needed not because they are martyrs.

They needed perish because they had committed acts of murder and sabotage akin to the Sons of Liberty. These malcontents had seen the dealings of the crown through Georgia and whether with malice or ignorance saw to pursue sabotage against the colony and crown. In their malcontentment they dared not ask what had truly occured nor did they seek petition and debate as we the proper and civilized must but they rode out to burn housing and attempt the murder of women and children to instigate tension with an ally.

Through Georgia a deal was made ending years long dispute with the creek and Cherokee with land concessions. These men claimed that these land concessions were the worst of land thus thebindinas must suffer but it is not and for that they do not. It may have been preferable that they had conceeded land of greater quality but as survey failed it was accepted that the concession was minor before peace for this was the aim of the deal. That children of the crown need not die in senseless conflict with the Indian just as theirs shan't perish in conflict with the crown and that we may better integrate for future relations.

Thus the crown had saught ally and for meaningless dirt concession these men saught to sabotage it. It was there men who saught to destroy the hard work of the Georgian people and harm the word of the crown.

Then we reach the trial held and observed with Georgian barrister they were given representation. Being a matter between people's they were tried in a neutral territory with observers of the aggrieved so as to assure the goodness of the crown. Thus they were tried properly and judges by our laws and theirs to be for the hanging and thus hung they were.

This is not a triumph, this is not a victory. This is a sad necessity that such measures needed to be met to these children of Georgia. In the end there is no easy blame. One could try blame the Indian as many of you do but they were tried with Georgian assent and would have met a hanging in our court just as the neutral ground. One could blame the crown for failing to inform the people but this is no cause to murder and greivances as such have civilized channels for resolving, one may even blame the surveyor for removing us of the ability to pick choicer concession but it is meaningless.

I truly wish to blame one man and one cause. I wish I had an easy target that we could together rage against but there is none. There is no satisfying end, merely sad necessity.

Finally, there are some who are attempting to make these lost men Martyrs to rally hatred; Don't. Do not use this tragedy for hatred, neither the colony of Georgia nor the crown hold dispute with the creek and Cherokee and to prosecute as such is sabotage against the colony. The land concessions were made with full knowledge on both parties that we would not receive the best of land and indeed it is not centerfold but a minor facet of the deal.

So people of Georgia I ask of you, cease and desist. There are proper means to address greivances and it is not rioting, it is not tearing the colony apart, it is not squandering the value of the sturggles to come where we are and our potential to reach further.

Thank you for letting your voice be heard for it has.

-[X] New Venice: Start construction not just of a shipyard but of a great yard modeled after the great Venetian Arsenal that leverages the relatively small population and size of Venice to produce ships greater and faster than any other.

-[X] Doktor: It is high time to fund a medical association to keep diseases and ailments at bay. The towns and cities should have at least a clinic each kept up to date on the latest medical standards and procedures.

-[X] Give Me Your Weary: with immigration in swing from postwar movement and yet to reach capacity seek further the immigration of those who would mesh well with the ideals and development of the colony. Specifically aiming at the persecuted, forgotten, disadvantaged, and refugee subsidizing the import of those who cannot bring themselves.

-[X] Send Aid convertly: Send weapons and Aid to the slaves of Jamaica convertly

Also, in case you're interested @Jrin
 
[X]Plan: No Bullshit
Hope that work out anyway going love screwing the French with covert aid.
 
While lying to confirm their rhetoric for no reason. Like, if you wanna do that you don't tell them they're right first, you sidesteps that and jump straight to the third party. You don't go "the Indians tricked us"(they didn't by the way, we went into that knowing we'd get crappy land) you go "the surveyors tricked us all and all the woes are at their hand.

I don't want to make it to obvious, so I'm hoping to play to the crowd with a back handed compliment.
 
I don't want to make it to obvious, so I'm hoping to play to the crowd with a back handed compliment.
Yeah... That's not really working. In fact I think this kind of issue generally isn't one where that kind of thing works.
 
Alright, but I would recommend getting rid of the word comrade in your speech. Too early for militaristic vocabulary to be applicable.
Hm? I thought we were before those connotations were popularized where the implication would be towards kinship rather than communism bringing us closer to the people and drawing more empathy.

Edit: yes, we're before communism was even a thing back when comrades implied mutual interest and egalitarian empathy. Even the French have yet to co-opt it.
 
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Plan No Bullshit wins


[X]Plan: No Bullshit

-[X] Public Address: "


Dear comrades of Georgia, I share in your grief for it is a shame when a child of Georgia must perish. I share in your grief for I too am a man of Georgia with a love for its people. I too weep for these lost sons who were hung.





However, I am a man of Georgia and it is for this that I acknowledge that these men needed to hang. It was needed not because the Indian is barbarous nor needlessly cruel. It was needed not because we were cheated and they saught to correct matters. It was needed not because they are martyrs.





They needed perish because they had committed acts of murder and sabotage akin to the Sons of Liberty. These malcontents had seen the dealings of the crown through Georgia and whether with malice or ignorance saw to pursue sabotage against the colony and crown. In their malcontentment they dared not ask what had truly occured nor did they seek petition and debate as we the proper and civilized must but they rode out to burn housing and attempt the murder of women and children to instigate tension with an ally.





Through Georgia a deal was made ending years long dispute with the creek and Cherokee with land concessions. These men claimed that these land concessions were the worst of land thus thebindinas must suffer but it is not and for that they do not. It may have been preferable that they had conceeded land of greater quality but as survey failed it was accepted that the concession was minor before peace for this was the aim of the deal. That children of the crown need not die in senseless conflict with the Indian just as theirs shan't perish in conflict with the crown and that we may better integrate for future relations.





Thus the crown had saught ally and for meaningless dirt concession these men saught to sabotage it. It was there men who saught to destroy the hard work of the Georgian people and harm the word of the crown.





Then we reach the trial held and observed with Georgian barrister they were given representation. Being a matter between people's they were tried in a neutral territory with observers of the aggrieved so as to assure the goodness of the crown. Thus they were tried properly and judges by our laws and theirs to be for the hanging and thus hung they were.





This is not a triumph, this is not a victory. This is a sad necessity that such measures needed to be met to these children of Georgia. In the end there is no easy blame. One could try blame the Indian as many of you do but they were tried with Georgian assent and would have met a hanging in our court just as the neutral ground. One could blame the crown for failing to inform the people but this is no cause to murder and greivances as such have civilized channels for resolving, one may even blame the surveyor for removing us of the ability to pick choicer concession but it is meaningless.





I truly wish to blame one man and one cause. I wish I had an easy target that we could together rage against but there is none. There is no satisfying end, merely sad necessity.





Finally, there are some who are attempting to make these lost men Martyrs to rally hatred; Don't. Do not use this tragedy for hatred, neither the colony of Georgia nor the crown hold dispute with the creek and Cherokee and to prosecute as such is sabotage against the colony. The land concessions were made with full knowledge on both parties that we would not receive the best of land and indeed it is not centerfold but a minor facet of the deal.





So people of Georgia I ask of you, cease and desist. There are proper means to address greivances and it is not rioting, it is not tearing the colony apart, it is not squandering the value of the sturggles to come where we are and our potential to reach further.





Thank you for letting your voice be heard for it has.





-[X] New Venice: Start construction not just of a shipyard but of a great yard modeled after the great Venetian Arsenal that leverages the relatively small population and size of Venice to produce ships greater and faster than any other.





-[X] Doktor: It is high time to fund a medical association to keep diseases and ailments at bay. The towns and cities should have at least a clinic each kept up to date on the latest medical standards and procedures.





-[X] Give Me Your Weary: with immigration in swing from postwar movement and yet to reach capacity seek further the immigration of those who would mesh well with the ideals and development of the colony. Specifically aiming at the persecuted, forgotten, disadvantaged, and refugee subsidizing the import of those who cannot bring themselves.





-[X] Send Aid convertly: Send weapons and Aid to the slaves of Jamaica convertly
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Results
Protesters unhappily disband:
The Protesters have disbanded but they are still unhappy and discontent against the government. It has become common knowledge that unless better deals are made with Georgia's peers the people will protest again.

New Venice Arsenal half way finished:
The grand New Venice Arsenal in Savannah is nearly halfway done and should be finished next year.

Georgia Doctors Association formed:
The Georgia Doctors Association has been formed and has been a smashing success with their being at least one clinic in every county and multiple clinics in the big three cities of Georgia, Savannah, Augusta and New Inverness.

Immigrants come to Georgia:
Around 300 people have moved to Georgia this quarter.

Aid to Jamaican rebels:
Our aid gets to the Jamaican rebels with no problems.
 
So, I'm thinking after the Venice Harbor gets built we start making ships. Some rowboats and small ships to explore the swamps in Georgia while at the same time filling out orders for the Crown. Eventually, we sell ships at high rates to other colonies or Jamaica if it liberates itself.
 
Hm? I thought we were before those connotations were popularized where the implication would be towards kinship rather than communism bringing us closer to the people and drawing more empathy.

Edit: yes, we're before communism was even a thing back when comrades implied mutual interest and egalitarian empathy. Even the French have yet to co-opt it.
@Keani what happened!? I thought you would have edited this out.
Your concern relates to a time period we're not in. There's no communist specter or Bolshevik threat. Its not yet a militaristic dogwhistle. Comrade is what you say when your speaking from the heart to gain the people's sympathy.

At worst it gives one an air of being "one of the rabble" which is kinda totally the point of the speech. I'll give if we weren't a known staunch royalist it could imply were against royalty but well... We're the Hardline royalist people look to when they're validating the crown in the Americas. Like, we'd have to start purging anti royalists to validate ourselves any harder.

So, I'm thinking after the Venice Harbor gets built we start making ships. Some rowboats and small ships to explore the swamps in Georgia while at the same time filling out orders for the Crown. Eventually, we sell ships at high rates to other colonies or Jamaica if it liberates itself.
Yes, we gotta be careful selling ships to people other than the crown though, put it through her first because England gets titchy about other people owning ships.

Anyway, regarding everything, things are going smoothly hopefully for the best. We got medical infrastructure rural and strong in the urban which means we should be pretty well off with regards to mass illness and epidemics of cholera and the like.

Good size population increase and progress on what will hopefully become a grand arsenal.

The people are short sighted map paintinh clay grubbers but that's honestly to be expected. We should probably consider a landgrab to pacify the masses. Maybe find a couple good islands, take them over, and have the crown declare the ours. Would go well with the arsenal to be.
 

That's the thing: There is no land. The north is a fellow colony, South Carolina. The south is manned by the Spanish with a line of forts. The east is obviously water, and the west is Native American Territory.

We need to get some kind of exclusive access or deal which bring in something unique.

Again, I think a ship deal might be nice as that's the equivalent of the Industrial-Military complex. I also had the thought of having the Bureau of Land draw up plans for a long term project involving the land.
 
That's the thing: There is no land. The north is a fellow colony, South Carolina. The south is manned by the Spanish with a line of forts. The east is obviously water, and the west is Native American Territory.

We need to get some kind of exclusive access or deal which bring in something unique.

Again, I think a ship deal might be nice as that's the equivalent of the Industrial-Military complex. I also had the thought of having the Bureau of Land draw up plans for a long term project involving the land.
I mean,not gonna lie most of it is shit but there's some good land in the islands that needs body can be arsed to use. You have a point though on trade.
 
Planing
The Government of Georgia has convened in Maryburg to make the next "Six-Month Plan as they are being dubbed for once we have no outstanding issues. But a message has come from London indicating that once the New Venice Arsenal was built the Naval Ministry would be ordering ten Sloops-of-War for the North American Fleet. Also we have one issue that is not mandatory but has come to our attention.

G.N.M.S Augusta sinks in Savannah
The Georgian Naval Militia Ship Augusta has sunk in Savannah due to pure neglect. If anyone was paying attention to government activities in 1738-1739 the Province was preparing for war against Spain. A part of these preparations was buying ten Sloops-of-War from the Naval Ministry in London. In the end the Sloops were never used and promptly forgotten about by the government. During the French and Indian War the Sloops were evacuated up to Augusta. Now that the Sloops are so dilapidated that they are sinking this has finally forced the government to look at the issue. While this is not an emergency issue many people who forgot Georgia had a navy now remember looking at the sunk ship in Savannah harbor.

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[] Continue construction of New Venice Arsenal
[] Prepare for the Navel Minestry's order

These will probably be two actions taken. Though should also do something about our navy. That we apparently have.
 
@Atlanta-Georgia , do we know the demographics of the people coming in? Also the state of our debts?

Also for whoever feels like making plans here's some ideas for addressing the issues facing the colony


[] mandate a constant and standardized accounting of elected official's and government transactions making all but matters of colonial or national secrecy public and transparent in an effort to combat corruption and restore faith in government.

[] Open voting and office seeking franchise to all who have lived in Georgia for over a year with at least 300 of days of the past year and over 13 years of age

[] form an investigative committee into the expansion and exploitation of georgia territory including into the islands

[] Make health and safety standards for present and future building construction with input from medical officials, architects, and city planners
 
Lol. I think since we never had a chance to really employ ships( since I thought they were destroy during North Carolina's burning ship tactic) we might as well disassemble these floating public hazards. The disassembly will be good practice from when we need to fill out the order for the sloops.
Well government thinking at the time was that the French would take Savannah and New Inverness forcing the Provincial Government to relocate to Augusta. It was thought that the ships could be used as a last line of defense if the French bothered to try and take Augusta.
 
Well government thinking at the time was that the French would take Savannah and New Inverness forcing the Provincial Government to relocate to Augusta. It was thought that the ships could be used as a last line of defense if the French bothered to try and take Augusta.

That's all fine. I just realized we never made any plans with these ships in mind. Which is crazy and a poor sense of planning which brings great shame to all of Georgia's Bureaucrats that came before.
 
That's all fine. I just realized we never made any plans with these ships in mind. Which is crazy and a poor sense of planning which brings great shame to all of Georgia's Bureaucrats that came before.

'Colony of Georgia was so rich they sometimes forget they had all kind of random assets lying around.'

Georgian Chronicles 1920 edition.
Heading out so not a full plan.

[] Blue water patrol: See if the old ships can be recovered for use as merchant escorts. Build new right sized ships if not.
[] Sailor school ho! Georgian shipyard is off to a promising start, build a navel school to complement it and the booming ocean trade.
 
The Government of Georgia has convened in Maryburg to make the next "Six-Month Plan as they are being dubbed for once we have no outstanding issues. But a message has come from London indicating that once the New Venice Arsenal was built the Naval Ministry would be ordering ten Sloops-of-War for the North American Fleet. Also we have one issue that is not mandatory but has come to our attention.
Funny how this is the exact opposite of what happened historically. IRL, the British did everything they could to stymie developing industry in the New World colonies to avoid them competing with the mainland so they would instead serve merely as a place for more resources with the deforestation of Britain itself :p
 
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