Birdsie
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Define "Some of your people."
Of Horrors & Overlords [Overlord Quest] [Dead]
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Basically the NPCs who have access to our network like Gilmore IIRC he has connection to the underworld and having someone like Velgath(He is good with politics) use the connection to the brain worm in Zero to go over his network. Also counting Zero as one of our 'people' since he is under our control so by extension counting his people as well.
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Think you are wanking Nazzarick a bit. If they could abuse pay to win then that applies to other people as well which the top guilds would likely have participated in as well. World Disaster was a class that around 40 people had in the game. Touch-Me wasn't actually the strongest player in the game. There were 9 World Champions and IIRC he got beaten by a World Champion that managed to beat the other 7 as well. World Champion was also a cheat class that let the person that had it take on 3 top level 100 players solo and win.
Shaltear doesn't have the class and IIRC WoG is that Touch-Me managed to beat all the Floor Guardians of Nazzerick singlehandly. If I had to guess the main reason Nazzerick was ranked as high as it was was because they had access to Nazzerick and the main reason they may have so many World Items is due to people having them on them when they went and lost in Nazzerick. Though I think there was a world Item that would have let the owner solo even Nazzerick.
We do use our mind control though, in fact my current plan has us using it. Just because we aren't using it all the time doesn't mean we aren't. Not to mention that our build is psionic and that isn't the only ability that came with our build.
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Birdsie
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@Red Bovine we have a NPC which is designed to get information via advanced scrying... we should probably give her a task
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Alright, have her gathering info on the most corrupt nobles and their support networks.
@Red Bovine can you include a side story for the ninja? Kinda curious if the ninja's a player or another NPC.
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Considering that Birdsie seems to write about this time might be best to wait until next update. Especially since we are already doing quite a bit for one update.
Birdsie
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I'm sorry to say, but no update today, for a number of reasons. To name a few, I'm ears-deep in work to do (the only reason I'm replying is that I peek into the thread every now and then out of curiosity,) and that the discussion at the moment seems pretty avid.
I suppose if the other problem is not having a big enough army we could make him an army of Gazefs to look like the black knight or an angel army those always go well.
Wonder if with research scrying can be done to the time stream itself.
Oh yeah, I checked what happened in the light novels when it came to Clementine's and Khajiit's bodies.
There were "layers of guards" and the storage area "inhibited the use of teleportation" so there is a question as to how the bodies went missing, the Mayor has no idea how the bodies went missing. So either the guards were charmed, the mayor is in on it, there was a secret entrance that the cult new about, the bodies were disintegrated at range, the cult has some sort of high tier teleportation, or maybe resurrection/necromancy can be used to teleport the bodies... I suppose they could have made a tunnel of some sort and resealed, I'm not sure which of these is practical. Does someone with d&d knowledge have any idea how this could have been done?
There were "layers of guards" and the storage area "inhibited the use of teleportation" so there is a question as to how the bodies went missing, the Mayor has no idea how the bodies went missing. So either the guards were charmed, the mayor is in on it, there was a secret entrance that the cult new about, the bodies were disintegrated at range, the cult has some sort of high tier teleportation, or maybe resurrection/necromancy can be used to teleport the bodies... I suppose they could have made a tunnel of some sort and resealed, I'm not sure which of these is practical. Does someone with d&d knowledge have any idea how this could have been done?
Inside job I suspect from the theocracy's black ops unit.
Hm, not sure if I should count it asa spoiler however
We can be fairly sure that it isn't the Theocracy because by volume 10 the cardinals don't seem to be aware of where she is. Although it doesn't explicitly state that. Now there is a possibility that they do have her because of how it was worded (i.e. one of them asked if she was near them and that it would be troublesome if she was). However if they had her I would expect them to mention that they captured the traitor, also I don't think resurrection causes memory loss so I think they would know that Momon is Ainz if they had resurrected her.
The Zurrernorn also apparently has player connections so they probably have some items from that player.
The Zurrernorn also apparently has player connections so they probably have some items from that player.
Oh neat. I keep forgetting that thing.
Come to think of it the king's concerned about the annual war so I'll have to edit a new plan to take that into account.
[] Proxy Assistance V1.2
-[]That was a rather interesting experience with a king so bent on abdicating in favor of a mysterious stranger with godlike powers. It seems he's intent on getting you to takeover the kingdom as a result of the the current situation where the kingdom's slowly rotting on the inside for the Baharuth Empire to deliver the killing blow while the nobility are unaware of it. Since he has some inkling of what you are you might as well invite him and Gazef into your personal chambers for a long talk on the difficulties of running a kingdom (for your education as well as he spent his entire life on this maybe Ainz can listen in if he's interested in kingdom management) and how you can help without having to takeover from him as you maybe considered a god but you're not a god of laws or a god of government that you can debate your suitability with him.
As to how you can help:
1. If the King feels so powerless why not empower him with the means to carry out his duties? Besides the standard enhancement program you can give him and his trusted subordinates there's also some trash items that you can give him to use like what Ainz gave that village girl or something else from the create greater item spell or even items to emulate the thirteen heroes as Agatha can do better.
Optional: Maybe get his help after the empowerment in ripping the theocracy a new one since Carne village falls under his domain that can establish his authority?
2. If it's intrigue you got that covered and can help in subterfuge against the nobles with what you possess (he doesn't need to know the exact details)
3. Unless he actually wants to run away from his duties well that's problematic but you can work with that with one of his children probably Zanac as he's taking your appearance with stride.
4. Marriage well you kept thinking about it as a way to gain legitimacy in your position in the kingdom which leads to your offer since the King is willing to remarry you could create a daughter whose personality and person would work well with the King and be created with ruling a nation as well. While you already have children you'd rather that they marry someone that they would actually like and get along with while also being able to actually be good at politics. Create a homunculus using parts from both your human and true body. Have her trained in the ways of running a nation after you introduce her and the King. If he decides otherwise the offer can instead be passed onto one of his children though you have some doubts about the crown prince and the princess having seen their nature.
5. Oh yeah there was those Annual Wars with their Imperial neighbors the Baharuth Empire. That's easily solvable with either diplomacy by walking up to the Emperor to ask nicely and say stop invading us or some grand display of power now that you're here.
-[] Have some of your people once again try to gather information on the more corrupted nobles. This time you will have the Eight Fingers information network to make things significantly easier. Hopefully you will be able to gather more irrefutable evidence against the most corrupt nobles before the attack on the Theocracy. Though wait a few days to gather information on the Theocracy before commencing the plan, around 2-3 days.
-[] Go with Ainz plan. Gather evidence from the Sunlight Scripture under your control to plant in Carne village to be found by another party. Afterwards enact the rest of the plan. Agree to let Ainz have the Elf and Dark Elf Kingdoms although you would like to check those places out for research purposes.
-[] Visit the Holy Kingdoms capital under the excuse of establishing better trade relations and uh you want to go see that Great Wall. It sounds like a landmark to check out.
-[] Next experiment with more complex life forms. This time use data crystals on fish and chicken eggs.
-[] Also plant the seeds of the fruit from the trees that you created using data crystals in different environments.
[X] Side-Story: Gazef
[X] Side-Story: Yellow Thirteen
-[]That was a rather interesting experience with a king so bent on abdicating in favor of a mysterious stranger with godlike powers. It seems he's intent on getting you to takeover the kingdom as a result of the the current situation where the kingdom's slowly rotting on the inside for the Baharuth Empire to deliver the killing blow while the nobility are unaware of it. Since he has some inkling of what you are you might as well invite him and Gazef into your personal chambers for a long talk on the difficulties of running a kingdom (for your education as well as he spent his entire life on this maybe Ainz can listen in if he's interested in kingdom management) and how you can help without having to takeover from him as you maybe considered a god but you're not a god of laws or a god of government that you can debate your suitability with him.
As to how you can help:
1. If the King feels so powerless why not empower him with the means to carry out his duties? Besides the standard enhancement program you can give him and his trusted subordinates there's also some trash items that you can give him to use like what Ainz gave that village girl or something else from the create greater item spell or even items to emulate the thirteen heroes as Agatha can do better.
Optional: Maybe get his help after the empowerment in ripping the theocracy a new one since Carne village falls under his domain that can establish his authority?
2. If it's intrigue you got that covered and can help in subterfuge against the nobles with what you possess (he doesn't need to know the exact details)
3. Unless he actually wants to run away from his duties well that's problematic but you can work with that with one of his children probably Zanac as he's taking your appearance with stride.
4. Marriage well you kept thinking about it as a way to gain legitimacy in your position in the kingdom which leads to your offer since the King is willing to remarry you could create a daughter whose personality and person would work well with the King and be created with ruling a nation as well. While you already have children you'd rather that they marry someone that they would actually like and get along with while also being able to actually be good at politics. Create a homunculus using parts from both your human and true body. Have her trained in the ways of running a nation after you introduce her and the King. If he decides otherwise the offer can instead be passed onto one of his children though you have some doubts about the crown prince and the princess having seen their nature.
5. Oh yeah there was those Annual Wars with their Imperial neighbors the Baharuth Empire. That's easily solvable with either diplomacy by walking up to the Emperor to ask nicely and say stop invading us or some grand display of power now that you're here.
-[] Have some of your people once again try to gather information on the more corrupted nobles. This time you will have the Eight Fingers information network to make things significantly easier. Hopefully you will be able to gather more irrefutable evidence against the most corrupt nobles before the attack on the Theocracy. Though wait a few days to gather information on the Theocracy before commencing the plan, around 2-3 days.
-[] Go with Ainz plan. Gather evidence from the Sunlight Scripture under your control to plant in Carne village to be found by another party. Afterwards enact the rest of the plan. Agree to let Ainz have the Elf and Dark Elf Kingdoms although you would like to check those places out for research purposes.
-[] Visit the Holy Kingdoms capital under the excuse of establishing better trade relations and uh you want to go see that Great Wall. It sounds like a landmark to check out.
-[] Next experiment with more complex life forms. This time use data crystals on fish and chicken eggs.
-[] Also plant the seeds of the fruit from the trees that you created using data crystals in different environments.
[X] Side-Story: Gazef
[X] Side-Story: Yellow Thirteen
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Birdsie
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Since you guys are still discussing, there's a new plan, and there's just a few votes, I'll postpone the update for another day.
You're in for a treat.
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*Sigh* And now we have to wait an entire day for an update because someone added one single extra action when we are already doing a ton of stuff rather than waiting a say. Like I don't mind doing said action but as a I keep pointing out we are already doing a lot of things at once. From talking to the King, visiting a different kingdom, planning an attack on another kingdom, experiments using data crystals, an interlude and anow someone voted add a another interlude instead of waiting a day for the next update.
Seriously, at this point people are trying to do too many things which is going to end up with the story getting reduced to bits like the interludes to fit everything in the updates. It sucks that the updates seem like they are going to suffer the same issues with the Overlord anime where too much stuff was happening with too little screen time leading to a lot of stuff either being cut out or seriously compressed from the Light Novel to a small amount of screen time.
At this point kind of hoping that the QM considers adding limits to the number of actions we can vote for per update to prevent this kind of thing.
Seriously, at this point people are trying to do too many things which is going to end up with the story getting reduced to bits like the interludes to fit everything in the updates. It sucks that the updates seem like they are going to suffer the same issues with the Overlord anime where too much stuff was happening with too little screen time leading to a lot of stuff either being cut out or seriously compressed from the Light Novel to a small amount of screen time.
At this point kind of hoping that the QM considers adding limits to the number of actions we can vote for per update to prevent this kind of thing.
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Sending the scout to scout the other side's not a bad idea.
But the plan's the same as the previous one.
[X] Side-Story: Yellow Thirteen
Tho the yellow thirteen side story would be far more interesting than Gazef doing... king watching.
But the plan's the same as the previous one.
[X] Side-Story: Yellow Thirteen
Tho the yellow thirteen side story would be far more interesting than Gazef doing... king watching.
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Hm, we are already creating an army, the created Jagermonsters are 30% of the way trained (so about 100 good warriors with some potent abilities). We have armies of level 29 and below monsters that respawn for free (the ones shown are level 18 using the wiki's rough conversation that makes them about equal to a low to mid mythril class adventurer, and we have flying versions as well), and an army of automatons would work quite well as a where they came from... because obviously we just had them in our basement or something. We are providing payment in the form of war beasts. We are creating a knightly order, creating a magic academy, and creating a place to train adventurers
In terms of military gains, we really don't need to create new things for him
What we should encourage is the creation of a New Model Army type thing, i.e. state armies rather than armies formed by nobles and we can already provide the core. This will notably weaken the power of the nobles.
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Actually the main issue is that the Nobles control a lot of things and his power is limited. While we do have things like a magic academy and a place to train adventurers that doesn't really do anything for the King himself to project personal power. The idea is to make the King feel less useless by letting him actually have power of his own under his control(well technically ours since he is secretely under us by choice but we are being subtle about it). Creating an army like that with the obvious intent to weaken the nobles seem like it would just have them trying to stone wall him which doesn't help things.
Honestly it would make things a whole lot easier to just empower the King further and enhance soldiers loyal to him to super human levels then give them high quality equipment(by New World standards). After that we can likely sit back a bit since the King would be powerful enough that the Nobles would be way less willing to try anything since the King and several of their soldiers would be able to match armies on their own.
My comment was more directed at the
"He wants a new army under his control? You can make him one like er an army of Black Knights that everyone liked as part of the thirteen heroes?"
This is why I pointed out we have a bunch of golems already made... Also the Black Knight's role in the story was suppressed (or at least his origins, so not the most liked outside of Karnassus at least and Ninya). Upgrading his people fine, in particular gazef's soldiers. The create an army of black knights I read as actually create i.e. make new creatures which is why I mentioned providing him with the automata. Creating the New Model Army, the important details are it detaches extremal political entities from the command, people can rise up through the ranks by merit (of course initially nobles will have favour for a fair number of reasons and there will be a fair amount of nepotism, however the army will answer to the king… and the king won't need to ask for soldiers), us providing support and a core would potentially allow us to actually create a proper state army significantly weaken.
Use Gazef's force as the elite, add our Automata Knights to add a bit of additional numbers… increase the strength of our city guard (and train them to be more competent) so additional troops
I suppose I am talking about the final result a bit more; I feel it is important to put a end goal in the process to help set it up… and honestly our character isn't doing a very good job of planning ahead.
Different note I am still hoping that we will go with a "the annual war happens and we suppress the army without killing anyone" for it but oh well seems unlikely
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Cough, mass passifacation, cough.
We have tier 10 mind control that could very well turn both armies loyal to us with ease. Or throw down their arms, become friends like in that doctor who Christmas episode, or have both armies just turn around and retreat. Or we could stun one side to have a flawless victory.
Or if you're as paranoid as Ainz, just slightly weaken the side you want to lose with subtle and unnoticeable effects.
Making armies and feeding the nations, I feel like they really are a waste of our time. When the same summon that made the village forget the halloween adventure could just as easily make the armies forget that they are suppose to be fighting.
Like we randomly designated a place to start growing food... when we've got an agricultural zone inside our, ammnm, guild. It's been just sitting somewhere doing nothing the whole time.
We are gods. If we actually wanted to do something, we could easily move mountains. Change the world with a casual swing of the wrist. Alter the senses with a snap. But suppose playing soldier merchant and the evil vizier is fine too. There's nothing better to do anyhow.
Selling fantastical beasts was fun.
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